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Apr 26, 10:49 PM

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-Gainax (Couldn't make a satisfying ending if their life depended on it)
-Trigger (Contains some former Gainax staff and inherited the same problem)
-Hideki Anno (I generally end up disliking most things this guy has creative input in)
-Masaaki Yuasa (Works he is involved in usually end up with art I find hideous.)
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Apr 27, 12:53 AM

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I don't know enough to say specific people so:
Mainly industry things like those behind Corporate greed and studios that exploit their workers. And when censorship or localization goes overboard to cater for the easily offended or insert ideals that don't fit the context and integrity of the show.

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So far, I don't like someone who hates an anime just because of the 3DCG thing
Also, all the hate towards Jun Maeda because of this anime. It's really sad to see. I even put Jun Maeda on my favorite list because of some of his works
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-Gainax (Couldn't make a satisfying ending if their life depended on it)
-Trigger (Contains some former Gainax staff and inherited the same problem)
-Hideki Anno (I generally end up disliking most things this guy has creative input in)
-Masaaki Yuasa (Works he is involved in usually end up with art I find hideous.)
@Kruszer
You gave reasonably high scores to Nadia and Gunbuster, Gainax anime with good endings directed by Anno. You even gave the Evangelion movies high scores.
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@Kruszer
You gave reasonably high scores to Nadia and Gunbuster, Gainax anime with good endings directed by Anno. You even gave the Evangelion movies high scores.
@Lucifrost Which is why I used non-definitive words like "generally" and "most" (meaning the majority but not all of them) instead of "always" or "all". Also the endings disappointing me are basically why those scores aren't higher.
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Apr 28, 2:07 AM
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There is lots of hate in this fandom towards marginalized groups, and that should be stamped out. Hate is the norm here and that is NOT ok. A lot of people hide it behind a subtle veneer of deniability but it is still there. Stuff like i mentioned wit the "anti-woke" nonsense is a literally just a hate movement shielded under buzzwords that mask what it is
LSSJ_Gaming said:
There is lots of hate in this fandom towards marginalized groups, and that should be stamped out. Hate is the norm here and that is NOT ok. A lot of people hide it behind a subtle veneer of deniability but it is still there. Stuff like i mentioned wit the "anti-woke" nonsense is a literally just a hate movement shielded under buzzwords that mask what it is


The problem is that you cannot filter out genuine bigotry from people who just want to enjoy anime in peace, so you lump them all together. If you literally think anyone who has problems with unfaithful localization or people trying to suck the fun out of their hobby, maybe it's you who's the problem. Just saying.

OT: People who think anime and it's fans are "problematic". It's especially insufferable if they claim to be anime fans. It has it's problems like any other fanbase, but it's really not that bad.
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Apr 28, 6:29 AM

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Well, I think I have pissed off almost every homophobe here on MAL 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Also some feminists because I like Yuri in the wrong way =p

But I don't care that much

I will still praise Yuri,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

And if that makes anyone angry! They should learn how to use the ignore function and stop reading my posts =)








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Well, I think I have pist off almost every homophobe here on MAL 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Also some feminists because I like Yuri in the wrong way =p

But I don't care that much

I will still praise Yuri

You the real MVP, your efforts of praising yuri shall be honored to all eternity.
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Apr 28, 7:31 AM

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@Lucifrost Which is why I used non-definitive words like "generally" and "most" (meaning the majority but not all of them) instead of "always" or "all". Also the endings disappointing me are basically why those scores aren't higher.
@Kruszer
You seem to "generally" have enjoyed "most" of Anno's popular anime. The lowest score I see on your list is 6/10 for classic Evangelion.
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Apr 28, 8:46 AM

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"Who are your enemies in the anime industry/fanbase?"

Moralists who want to impose their rules on the seemingly unrestricted art niche.
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Apr 28, 11:11 AM

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@Kruszer
You seem to "generally" have enjoyed "most" of Anno's popular anime. The lowest score I see on your list is 6/10 for classic Evangelion.
@Lucifrost Except not as much as I could have if they weren't involved and the story concept was done by someone else.
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Apr 28, 11:23 AM

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It isnt the fandom it is just what happened to nearly every space on the internet starting somewhere between 2012 and 2015. I cant even find many in the community giving a damn about LGBT or race or gender before then and people werent plastering their identity politics everywhere one way or another because the community just naturally attracted a certain type of people that were more open minded to everything. You cant fight identity politics with more identity politics. Also while some "anti-woke" is as you describe it's also people just sick of politicizing everything meant to be fun especially with a detachment from reality and people not minding their own business but just not really having another term for it at the moment. Those kind will criticize both sides as both obnoxious.
@traed

If "identity politics" is allowing queer people and minorities to exist, uhhh yeah we need to fight to allow us to exist openly. Also you do realize most media has political elements in it right?
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Apr 28, 11:39 AM

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For now I don't think there's anyone, there are a few who annoys me but that ain't enough for me to consider them as enemies.

There are some other irl people whom I might consider enemies but well these aren't related to anime x)
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there are a few who annoys me but that ain't enough for me to consider them as enemies.
Same here.
Personally I don't like too much mecha-anime, but I watch and like some :D
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Apr 28, 11:55 AM

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I doubt I can list them without getting myself banned...
Apr 28, 11:56 AM

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Dudebros whose only vocabulary is "peak","fumble", "goat", "mickey mouse manga/anime", "trash", etc.
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@traed

If "identity politics" is allowing queer people and minorities to exist, uhhh yeah we need to fight to allow us to exist openly. Also you do realize most media has political elements in it right?
@LSSJ_Gaming
You really don't get my views. The meaning is a little difficult to explain but from how Ive seen it used identity politics is both sides relating to race (White Nationalism, Black Nationalism etc), religion (Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist etc), sex and gender identity (male, female, trans woman, trans man etc), sexuality (straight, gay, bi etc) and the like. These focus on specific groups as being different or even being harmful to eachother instead of focusing on the bigger picture seeing people as people all the same that have their own needs. You will occasionally see anti-LGBT types use the term but they are using it wrong because their views are identity politics too. Criticizing it isnt supporting status quo. There is different means of achieving same end goals.
Apr 28, 12:08 PM

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People deciding to spell Horo with an L.



Apr 28, 12:22 PM

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@Catalano Localizers and tourists are negatively impacting my life, so I suppose it's fair to consider them my enemies?
Thankfully, I don't fall into any of the categories you've listed.
Apr 28, 12:24 PM

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@Catalano Localizers and tourists are negatively impacting my life, so I suppose it's fair to consider them my enemies?
Thankfully, I don't fall into any of the categories you've listed.
@Shizuna

If translators are ruining your life you should really recheck your prioirities
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Apr 28, 12:38 PM

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I have no enemies



But If I did, it would be the people who allow themselves to hate others just because they disagree with them or don't understand them
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Apr 28, 5:34 PM
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Here are my two cents:
-People who defend lolicon/shotacon. Y'all are disgusting.
-People who claim that leftists/SJWs are ruining anime spaces, when the reality is a that the reactionary jabronis who spew bigoted ideals and whine "keep your filthy politics out of my anime!" are the real people making the general anime fanbases looks bad.
-Most modern Anitubers. Related to the two above points, I just can't get into them unless there are some who are willing to start talking about the issues that are in the anime workspace/fanbase.
-Elitists in general.
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- People obsessed with politics (both sides)
- "Intellectuals" who like to over-analyze and read into stuff that isn't there
- Puritans who hate sex and fanservice
- Furries who have hated us for years and have started to invade this fandom
- Retro anime superfans who act like anime was only good in the 90s
- Elitists who only watch "classy" stuff like Ghibli and Evangelion
- Localizers who deliberately mis-translate lines in order to Westernize anime
- The alt-right who acts like Japan is the most anti-LGBT, anti-diversity, and anti-immigrant place on Earth (It's not)
- The liberals who act like fanservice in anime is the most horrible and sexist thing on the planet and want women to cover up like nuns
- People who bashed us for years for watching anime and now claim to have secretly been fans for years
Apr 28, 7:21 PM

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Communist otakus, other than that I really don't care.

Apr 28, 7:59 PM

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So I read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber and I have to say that middle management types that are ubiquitous in any sufficiently corporate society are the banes of my existence, including within the anime industry. There are probably a fair amount of redtape within the industry that stifles creativity and artistic freedom and slows down the production of anime while simultaneously making working conditions for artists to be hellish.

Besides that, the closest I can say to "enemies" are anime adult fans who are "cringe". They are hopefully a minority, but it kills me on the inside whenever an anime fan in an ahegao hoodie acts like a sex obsessed pervert in public, declaring in public how much they love their waifus or how lolis are great.
Apr 28, 9:18 PM

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I have no personal enemies, I barely talk one-on-one with people.

But I dislike neo-puritans, those who can't distinguish reality from fiction, those who just can't ignore and let people enjoy things, and anyone in the industry who actively makes decisions to hurt it (publishers, licensors, voice actors, translators, Sony etc.)




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Any opp of my husbando's has been and remains an opp of mine.



That's about it.
Apr 28, 9:43 PM

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"i have no enemies"

"i have no reason to have enemies"

The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
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_ leftard, wokies, sh*tty transgender, haremtard, shoujo(straight-hetero)tard, SJW, hypocrite, loli hater.
these are ppl who acting mighty and morally are always trying to bring their shitty culture and apply it to anime.
they even targeted the harmless SoL/Healing show, talking sh*t and blabbing about underage or minors, etc.
those pile of sh*t who act like that are even more than disgusting, what a fu*king abomination
Apr 29, 11:13 AM

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Sony etc.
Sony is out to hurt the industry?

Ironic since you have two Sony anime studios on your favs....
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Communist otakus, other than that I really don't care.


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Apr 29, 11:47 AM

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I have no enemies🗿🗿🗿


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Sony etc.
Sony is out to hurt the industry?

Ironic since you have two Sony anime studios on your favs....
@MadanielFL Primarily meant Crunchyroll, but I've been trying to figure out if Crunchyroll still makes their own decisions on stuff or if it's been Sony since they were bought. I don't really understand it a lot, so I decided to just go with the overarching Sony.




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Acctra said:
Primarily meant Crunchyroll, but I've been trying to figure out if Crunchyroll still makes their own decisions on stuff or if it's been Sony since they were bought. I don't really understand it a lot, so I decided to just go with the overarching Sony.
CR is a subsidiary of the biggest anime company in Japan, the same company that made and produced some of your favorite shows...
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Primarily meant Crunchyroll, but I've been trying to figure out if Crunchyroll still makes their own decisions on stuff or if it's been Sony since they were bought. I don't really understand it a lot, so I decided to just go with the overarching Sony.
CR is a subsidiary of the biggest anime company in Japan, the same company that made and produced some of your favorite shows...
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Most of us rely on translations in order to understand anime. If Sony's people do a poor job translating, we have every right to hate the company. I say that as someone with a poorly translated Sony show in his favorites.
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Apr 29, 6:38 PM

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Nobody is our enemy lol. Literally nobody.
Apr 29, 6:44 PM

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I'm against censorship. Censorship is the enemy of humanity.
Apr 29, 6:46 PM

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Most of us rely on translations in order to understand anime. If Sony's people do a poor job translating, we have every right to hate the company. I say that as someone with a poorly translated Sony show in his favorites.
Well I don't think the translations are bad, they are usually better than the ones from most other services.
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I'm against censorship. Censorship is the enemy of humanity.
@Grecefar what makes you think that, just curious?
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I'm against censorship. Censorship is the enemy of humanity.
@Grecefar what makes you think that, just curious?
Apr 29, 7:12 PM

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i have many enemies.

  • cloverworks and their god-awful anime-only endings
  • the evangelion rebuilds
  • people who unironically call characters their "waifus"
  • my hero academia
  • mappa's higher-ups who are quite literally working their animators to death
  • 90% of the myanimelist community
  • ridiculous amounts of fanservice in serious shows
  • people who think nudity and/or sex is automatically fanservice
  • people who think csm is bad
  • people who think evangelion is bad
  • your mother
  • osamu dazai
  • mindless shonen fans
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- People obsessed with politics (both sides)
- "Intellectuals" who like to over-analyze and read into stuff that isn't there
- Puritans who hate sex and fanservice
- Furries who have hated us for years and have started to invade this fandom
- Retro anime superfans who act like anime was only good in the 90s
- Elitists who only watch "classy" stuff like Ghibli and Evangelion
- Localizers who deliberately mis-translate lines in order to Westernize anime
- The alt-right who acts like Japan is the most anti-LGBT, anti-diversity, and anti-immigrant place on Earth (It's not)
- The liberals who act like fanservice in anime is the most horrible and sexist thing on the planet and want women to cover up like nuns
- People who bashed us for years for watching anime and now claim to have secretly been fans for years
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Puritans who hate sex and fanservice

While also not knowing what fanservice is....yet does anyone except the creators?
ForgotEyeWasHere said:
Furries who have hated us for years and have started to invade this fandom

I dont particularly recall this being a thing except maybe a short time period i forgot about and the amount of furry stuff in anime and fanart is small enough i dont see a "takeover" seem nay way noticeable
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The alt-right who acts like Japan is the most anti-LGBT, anti-diversity, and anti-immigrant place on Earth (It's not)

Would be fun to watch some react to history of Japan that actually covers this kind of stuff. lol
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but only one side is restricting a woman's right to an abortion.

Only one side has "The Proud Boys" <-- Far-Right group btw.

Like the left has problems, sure & I don't like them either but acting like the right isn't "worse" is plain stupid.

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Whoever that is not me is my enemy. Including my mom. It's a sad lonely life.
Apr 30, 12:17 PM

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People that jerk off to animated child porn and the even worse jerk offs who normalize this weird behavior.

People that bust a blood vessel anytime they see a darkskin cosplaying an Asian anime character, as if cosplay has any rules at all

People that call me woke for thinking lolicon is weird when I literally have no other “woke” beliefs.

People that swear up and down Japan is the best country of all time and western media is automatically inferior


Fuck all of you guys
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People that jerk off to animated child porn and the even worse jerk offs who normalize this weird behavior.

People that bust a blood vessel anytime they see a darkskin cosplaying an Asian anime character, as if cosplay has any rules at all

People that call me woke for thinking lolicon is weird when I literally have no other “woke” beliefs.

People that swear up and down Japan is the best country of all time and western media is automatically inferior


Fuck all of you guys
@Kenzolo-folk You might wanna look up Berserk's author. Because with this profile you're looking like a fool with no self-awareness.
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@Kenzolo-folk You might wanna look up Berserk's author. Because with this profile you're looking like a fool with no self-awareness.
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Any preference I have towards an author is purely because of their work, I never said I was in love the dude or that he’s a god. If the average lolicon on this website made a once in a generational masterpiece like berserk I’d probably let them off the hook for being useless pieces of shit. Even despite liking berserk there’s tons of things in it that I dislike about it.
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@LSSJ_Gaming Dude, chill the fuck out. There's a reason batman wears a bullet proof vest under his shirt that has a big yellow target on it. It's wild you go screaming about the fact that you're trans everywhere on this website and expect people to not pick on you, unless you do and this is what you actually want, which is very likely.
You guys will never be normalized if you act like lunatics everywhere you go.
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Any preference I have towards an author is purely because of their work, I never said I was in love the dude or that he’s a god. If the average lolicon on this website made a once in a generational masterpiece like berserk I’d probably let them off the hook for being useless pieces of shit. Even despite liking berserk there’s tons of things in it that I dislike about it.
@Kenzolo-folk there's literal lolicon material in Berserk, my friend.
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@Kenzolo-folk there's literal lolicon material in Berserk, my friend.
@LenRea
Right.. I know this, like I said there’s tons of things in berserk that I dislike about it, I never claimed it was flawless or morally correct. Reading comprehension is important.
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Right.. I know this, like I said there’s tons of things in berserk that I dislike about it, I never claimed it was flawless or morally correct. Reading comprehension is important.
@Kenzolo-folk Okay, whatever, I'm going to assume you're just a fan of Guts and not Berserk when you post on these forums against pedophilia. It's hard for me to comprehend hypocrisy. (although I do admit I be like a hypocrite sometimes, still hard to comprehend.)
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