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| I laughed out loud quite a few times at this episode, best comedy of the season so far, it is pretty creepy at times though. |
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traed said: Monad said: Well its sort of both. Shes both normal and mentally ill. Itts normal for most people to go through phases of mentalness in their teenage years and many get over it but they also have a higher risk of keeping a mental illness later in life though. So its normal but not healthy.Damn this guy knows nothing. Sociopaths are the manipulative not psychopaths. Psychopaths are just crazy motherfuckers. Also this girl has none of those trades at all. She's actually quite normal believe it or not. She may be in an antisocial circle but her reactions to it are perfectly normal and what a normal person would do if it was shunt out of the group. Her crazy fantasies are a reaction to that, and healthy people actually do that to fight loneliness and things that trouble them. Also her wishing their death is just reaction to the jealousy(and her annoyance with the way they talk) she feels, she doesn't really want them to die or has any plans to do so. It's venting of frustration by only saying it, that's something all people do. I disagree. She's not mentally ill at all. She simply lacks social ability. |
| i feel so sorry about her... |
| Cute show. |
| Let's go bowling. |
| Good Episode lots of funny scenes :D, the VA for the fat guy who made the portrait of tomoko is definitely Tomokazu Sugita XD |
Monad said: traed said: Monad said: Well its sort of both. Shes both normal and mentally ill. Itts normal for most people to go through phases of mentalness in their teenage years and many get over it but they also have a higher risk of keeping a mental illness later in life though. So its normal but not healthy.Damn this guy knows nothing. Sociopaths are the manipulative not psychopaths. Psychopaths are just crazy motherfuckers. Also this girl has none of those trades at all. She's actually quite normal believe it or not. She may be in an antisocial circle but her reactions to it are perfectly normal and what a normal person would do if it was shunt out of the group. Her crazy fantasies are a reaction to that, and healthy people actually do that to fight loneliness and things that trouble them. Also her wishing their death is just reaction to the jealousy(and her annoyance with the way they talk) she feels, she doesn't really want them to die or has any plans to do so. It's venting of frustration by only saying it, that's something all people do. I disagree. She's not mentally ill at all. She simply lacks social ability. She could be either. I can relate a whole lot to her and I am social phobic, so I definitely think she could be too. I would consider showing this anime to someone who didn't understand social phobia because it portrays it so well! (If not exaggerated to be funny) |
| They better give her a happy ending or I'll rage so much! Lol The ending when she thought that guy had drawn a cute picture of her... so sad. Better if she never finds out the truth. |
| It's just too true. |
| omg poor girl at the end XDD |
Monad said: traed said: Monad said: Well its sort of both. Shes both normal and mentally ill. Itts normal for most people to go through phases of mentalness in their teenage years and many get over it but they also have a higher risk of keeping a mental illness later in life though. So its normal but not healthy.Damn this guy knows nothing. Sociopaths are the manipulative not psychopaths. Psychopaths are just crazy motherfuckers. Also this girl has none of those trades at all. She's actually quite normal believe it or not. She may be in an antisocial circle but her reactions to it are perfectly normal and what a normal person would do if it was shunt out of the group. Her crazy fantasies are a reaction to that, and healthy people actually do that to fight loneliness and things that trouble them. Also her wishing their death is just reaction to the jealousy(and her annoyance with the way they talk) she feels, she doesn't really want them to die or has any plans to do so. It's venting of frustration by only saying it, that's something all people do. I disagree. She's not mentally ill at all. She simply lacks social ability. I assume you haven't come in direct contact with social phobic people, or been one yourself? |
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| The American Psychiatric Association (APA) continually revises the diagnostic criteria and terminology for mental illnesses. "Social Phobia" is the now-obsolete term which was used in the book titled DSM-IV-TR and its earlier versions (DSM-IV and DSM-III etc.). As of May 18, 2013, the new term is "Social Anxiety Disorder". This is in the new book titled DSM-5". So we should all use this terminology here. Note also that a person could have some degree of social anxiety and yet not have Social Anxiety Disorder. DSM-5 contains "diagnostic criteria". So a psychiatrist would look at a patient, talk to him/her, and, on the basis of that, decide whether or not the person has Social Anxiety Disorder. If the diagnosis is made, then the next step is to talk about treatment. Takuan_Soho makes a great point in questioning whether we can 100% trust the correctness of DSM-5. So perhaps there are some situations in which a person would be diagnosed with a "mental illness" according to DSM-5 when common sense tells us that the person isn't really sick. See here: http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Social%20Anxiety%20Disorder%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf http://anxietytreatmentclinic.com/blog/social-anxiety-disorder-dsm-v http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5 |
okanaganJul 17, 2013 2:11 PM
| Right. In the past, one would say, "He is a boy." Nowadays, they say, "Here is an individual with Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)." And the next logical step is that this sick person must be medicated. The result is that now we have many people taking drugs for ADHD. The medicine for ADHD is patented, so somebody makes money from the fact that ADHD is defined by DSM-5 to be a mental illness. So there is a conflict of interest. The APA is responsible to avoid that, but they don't 100% succeed. |
bachou said: this anime is just... too harsh on her.....i doubt she will get any real friend yuu chan called her out cuz she had a fight with her boyfriend meaning moko aint worth shjt if yuu chan makes up with her BF sad ... the girl's life is just too sad All of you see nothing yet. Mikenzb said: I wished the MC would look more normal, If she looked like this throughout the whole series I would have nothing to complain about. You will regret think this. |
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| Being Tomoko is suffering. |
| great episode :3 I love this anime and I still cant get over that op, its so cool xD I kind of like how their rearranging the order of events compared to the manga :/ is that just me? probably... |
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| This is so much better than the manga. I really like it. |
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Takuan_Soho said: okanagan said: The APA is responsible to avoid that, but they don't 100% succeed. They don't even try. The APA is not a serious medical organization, like most trade groups it exists in order to "rent seek", not that the AMA is much better: they just classified obesity as a disease. Was this because of some new "research"? Nope, just a simple vote of the members. The APA though has been generally worse: DSM-5 has classified Disruptive Mood Dysregulation Disorder (i.e. throwing a tantrum) and Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (i.e. that time of the month) as psychological disorders. Basically now, if you are not a happy, well adjusted, productive member of society you have a mental illness. Citizen, your psycho pass is too high, please present yourself at the nearest retraining center so we can help you recover previoud levels ... or we will have to send and enforcer to drag you in chains like an animal. |
Takuan_Soho said: okanagan said: The APA is responsible to avoid that, but they don't 100% succeed. They don't even try. The APA is not a serious medical organization, like most trade groups it exists in order to "rent seek", not that the AMA is much better: they just classified obesity as a disease. Was this because of some new "research"? Nope, just a simple vote of the members. The APA though has been generally worse: DSM-5 has classified Disruptive Mood Dysregulation Disorder (i.e. throwing a tantrum) and Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (i.e. that time of the month) as psychological disorders. Basically now, if you are not a happy, well adjusted, productive member of society you have a mental illness. If you belive any shit scientists and doctors throw at you then you should know that the very same people said that sugar is a mood changer , generally changes your mood from anything to happy but if you lack it it will be worser .... |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
Marow said: This is so much better than the manga. I really like it. ++ I laughed way harder than I should have, but it was viciously hilarious all the way. |
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| That last part with the new ending is win. Think I need Yandere-Boys CD ><" |
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| That cringe-worthy moment is always at the very end. They might try to make Tomoko as dorky, unappealing and perverted as possible, but she does have a very endearing side to her. |
OmniknightJul 17, 2013 8:29 PM
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| Another awesome episode. And that drawing of Tomoko was cute :D . |
So far, I'm liking this adaptation. |
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| This was funny and dark all at the same time. It wasn't as depressing as the first episode, especially since her old friend still likes to hang out with her and have fun. I'm glad that drawing made her happy, even if the guy didn't real have any deeper meaning other than just trying to get the assignment done. She actually reminds me of how I was in elementary school and how I wasn't into what the other popular kids were and I looked down on them for being into stupid stuff, while I stayed to myself and was into school, science, reading and writing. I later got into anime, manga, and comics, but I didn't find any friends who were interested in what I was interested in until I was in my latter freshman year of high school. It wasn't until high school that I came out of my shell. I'm hoping Tomoko can do the same, she just needs to find some friends that are interested in similar things as she is. I give this episode a 8/10. |
| that 'moepigs' part was funny! |
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| Zoze said: That 'moe pigs' part was funny! Agreed! I hope they are going to show us what kind of anime Tomoko likes, given that she apparently doesn't like moe or slice-of-life. Let's hope that we will see her discussing it with Yuu-chan. It is hilarious that most of the minor characters in the show are moe, and so far it appears to be slice-of-life. As for me, I have to admit that I am one of those moe pigs who likes slice-of-life anime series with moe characters. I want to see many more Yuu-chan scenes.  |
okanaganJul 18, 2013 12:01 AM
| laughtrip at the bike scene... can't stop laughing on it... kuroki has a mad skills when it comes to games...that's the proof that kuroki is one of Keima's students...LOL xD |
Irenesharda said: I'm hoping Tomoko can do the same, she just needs to find some friends that are interested in similar things as she is. I thought Yuu is one of her friend .They both share the same hobby as well. Tomoko is very positive about herself, she might call her out when the storm is over xD |
| I also think this is a bit better than the manga so far. I actually had to stop reading the manga because of how depressing it was becoming (there was some pretty messed up stuff that happened). I might decide to pick up the manga again though (hanging on to hope something good will actually happen). |
| I don't think it was better than the manga. But I think the ending was handled very well. |
MorningGlory said: Irenesharda said: I'm hoping Tomoko can do the same, she just needs to find some friends that are interested in similar things as she is. I thought Yuu is one of her friend .They both share the same hobby as well. Tomoko is very positive about herself, she might call her out when the storm is over xD She feels timorous in her presence . When someone has problems getting a girlfriend/boyfriend , lets not talk about friends , and is in the presence of someone with one that "someone" will feel complexed/timorous , and she/he will not feel good at all , actually very very bad and pissed off . She needs a boy social enough and without a girlfriend to help her , that's all , and she will slowly forget about gaming , and then she can feel well in the presence of Yuu . |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
| Is it just me or the anime doesn't seems as funny and crazy as the manga? Too bad because i'm such a big fan of this series, huuuu Kuroko is still too moe and her voice is still moe-ish, mmmm idk |
| poor tomoko. lol... I can really relate to her... xD uhmm will she ever find a lover or smth? |
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| Watching it again, I still find the Mimi wo Sumaseba reference very funny. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| ha, that quick twist at the end, omg |
Takuan_Soho said: Its not about mainstream or non mainstream. Mental illness is defined as anything that makes a persons life less than they want it to be and brings them suffering. She brings about her own suffering in a lot of cases. Shes also talked about committing suicide so she at least is depressed or has something going on that causes her to react to what people say in big ways.Not every "outside the mainstream" behavior is a mental illness, despite the APA's self-serving and disgusting attempts to classify them as illnesses. It's disgusting because it assumes that there is only one true norm that everyone has to conform to, and if one doesn't then they are somehow "sick". Moko isn't "ill", she has some issues conforming to societal norms. She could easily fit in like her friend if she was willing to abandon who she thinks she is, and try to "conform" to what society wants, but Moko doesn't want to do that. She wants the world to accept her for what she is. That isn't an illness, that is a lifestyle decision. One that she will have to pay a price for, but still its her decision, and a respectable one at that. Such people are who drive society forward. Im friends with all kinds of people with various mental illnesses and various personality types so I kind of know how to spot it. I also have a type of desire or way of thinking that isnt exactly mainstream either. In fact i get put down quite often for how i like to do things. I wouldnt entirely disagree with you since in some ways yeah she just wants to be as herself but she does have obvious issues. She doesnt conciously decide to tense up so bad she can barely speak when around strangers or people she doesnt know well enough. I wouldnt attibute all her actions to lifestyle choices. Monad said: I disagree. She's not mentally ill at all. She simply lacks social ability. Well mentally ill doesnt always imply being crazy so actually its very hard to tell the difference between someone mentally ill and someone who is not. Reminds me of this documentory special i saw on tv before where they recreated an experiement where professional psychologists observed a group of people some considered mentally healthy and some having various mental illnesses and they had to guess who had what just by watching them intereact normally and they were wrong a lot of the time. So it can go either way. Mental illness isnt always clearly and cleanly defined. It is just easier to say shes got issues than it is to say she just has extremely bad luck because its more logical to notice her problems she brings on herself from how she reacts to people and talks down to herself. All I can say is a well person wouldnt puke after seeing themselves in the mirror or talk about committing suicide in a very serious consideration with reasons to back up why they should do it. Her issues with other people isnt always social anxiety but she does show a few symptoms time to time like when she got overwhelmed at the thoughts of how people normally interact it clearly gave her a panic attack. But having issues talking to people form not being used to it isnt a disorder necessarily, yeah. |
traedJul 18, 2013 4:20 PM
| Idk... this should be funny but I just can't laugh. It's trying to not be serious while being serious and it just doesn't work. I won't drop it yet because it's not that bad, I must be missing something. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
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