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| The more the show try to point Yoshino out as the Mage of Exodus, The more I do not buy it. But I believe it implies something. For instance let's say, as many people speculated, Aika was the Mage of Exodus and she loved Yoshino. Thus he is protected/blessed by the Tree of Exodus, rendering his existence independent from the logic of the tree Genesis. FatalScythe said: dsw said: Hakaze is too cute. All of a sudden it feels like Inaba has returned! XD I feel the same.I wonder if the voice actor for Inaba is the same for Hakaze? I just can't keep thinking of inaba everytime i hear her voice. lol. Yeah. She has a pretty unique way of talking. Once you get used to it, you can't get it off your head. |
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| That was interesting . I'm interested in how Hakaze x Yoshino will develop rather than the plot lol |
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UnbornMVs said: That was interesting . I'm interested in how Hakaze x Yoshino will develop rather than the plot lol And suddenly after this episode I don't care about the plot anymore and really wanna see the exactly same thing. They're quite interesting couple. OK, I actually do want to see how the plot resolves, but heck, I kinda feel they're not as interesting as first part of this anime. Just feels like this one is more comedy oriented while first part was all about mystery, murder and revenge, way more interesting, and not to mention, that argument which lasted for 3 episodes and was pretty epic. I'm just not finding that anymore in this anime. |
| Lol i am started to love Hakaze.She has such a cute crush on Yoshino. |
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| Hahaha. They made the mage of Exodus like your typical hero in spandex. Also, Hakaze developed an inner Hakaze. Hahaha. So cute. |
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| I have to say they've been laying a lot of plot holes ever since Hakaze returned. So far they've done a superb job and I trust all will be resolved in due time, but I'm still pretty lost at this point. I don't know what to believe sometimes, and the characters themselves seem genuinely conflicted too. On another note, Hakaze's crush on Yoshino is indeed very cute. But I'm also getting this feeling that Yoshino loves Aika a lot more than suggested at the beginning of the series. Can he really get over Aika, or even fall for Hakaze? As much as I want to root for Hakaze x Yoshino, it's looking pretty bleak. One-sided, even, because Hakaze is the only person blushing at every instance. I'm starting to get this feeling too that Aika knows something about the future before she died. Tempest and Hamlet, as Mahiro said, are two revenge-oriented plays that end up in very different places. Could Aika have been implicitly telling Mahiro that there can be two endings to his revenge, knowing that she'll die at some point? Hmm. And for those who're disappointed with the direction since the first arc, I think Zetsuen has a lot in store for us. My faith in it has been sealed ever since they pulled off a string of 3-4 episodes of pure conversation and still made it insanely interesting. |
| Hakaze was indeed so damn cute in this episode. |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
| Just giving a little wild guess here caus eim starting to get a niggling feelign this will happen Hanamura will probably become the villain soon, like with his power it seems way to easy for the heroes if they can use him, i get the feeling something big is going to happen that will set him off. again just a random guess mainly cause this show lacks a real villain ever since samon turned out to be worthless. Hanamura with his power seems perfect for a villain if he ends up being screwed with. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Yoshino kept getting suspected huh, if they know about Aika being his girlfriend, I wonder if things will get better or worse for him, leaving aside the fact that Mahiro will beat him up. |
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| Great episode, mostly filler but still entertaining, they are around halfway through the chapters and its still going at a nice pace so far, gonna be original ending though but I still can't wait til they tie it all together, love this anime/manga |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Just giving a little wild guess here caus eim starting to get a niggling feelign this will happen Hanamura will probably become the villain soon, like with his power it seems way to easy for the heroes if they can use him, i get the feeling something big is going to happen that will set him off. again just a random guess mainly cause this show lacks a real villain ever since samon turned out to be worthless. Hanamura with his power seems perfect for a villain if he ends up being screwed with. I would love that. His character needs to grow some balls anyway. |
| "What color do you want to be?" -Shiina Mashiro |
| For me, with this episode several pieces of the puzzle I had been fidgeting over the last few weeks suddenly clicked into place. |
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| Never thought about comparing and contrasting Hamlet and Tempest. I think this is one insight I am happy to gain by watching this series. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Never thought about comparing and contrasting Hamlet and Tempest. I think this is one insight I am happy to gain by watching this series. same. :D now i have something to look forward to in english class haha Cratex said: For me, with this episode several pieces of the puzzle I had been fidgeting over the last few weeks suddenly clicked into place. true. |
| This is probably the best episode from the second half so far. At first I wasn't sure about how they were going to handle Hakaze's character, but I think its turning out quite nicely. I'm already ready for the next episode! |
| It was a great episode. |
| Wait, so the anime will not follow the manga accurately? Dang, I don't want to drop it! For crying out loud, how come they still haven't realized that Jun is the Zetsuen Mage? The Spear Guy, at least, should - he experienced his no-offerings superpowers first hand! Hakaze is hopelessly love-sick, so I guess she might not see what Jun just talked her into (that is disregarding Tree of Beginning's logic), but everybody else seem to have received the Idiot Ball! |
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| Hakaze really couldn't help herself in the end. She cares too much for Yoshino. I'm also starting to believe the theory about The Mage of Exodus actually being two people. One with the powers and one who has the personality; the latter being Yoshino. |
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| From reading this topic, I think there'll be a STUPID ALTERNATIVE ENDING, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! Just leave a cliffhanger for a second season when the manga is finished, is it that hard? |
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eminagnam said: But then if Aika did not already know he is a "coward" on this kind of thing, she might not have offered that to Yoshino at all. It is just as likely that Aika did not really mean to let him see her private part (see, not touch) and was just teasing him, as she had done so many times in the past.Yoshino is a coward. Aika gave him a chance to touch her in the private part, but he didn't take it. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Why do people think it will go down anime only despite all the important plot points happening in this episode and the next episode clearly showing scenes from the next couple chapters and even being named after it. This is nothing new, the anime has been adding stuff in from the manga but still using the same plot point just in different ways to reach said points. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I really do not know what to make of this story anymore. On one hand I want to try to understand what is going on but if I think too hard about it I may be disappointed with the depth of the ending if it falls short of how smart this show appears. To better illustrate what I mean I will begin with my speculation to this point (anime only- I dont read mangas) Spoiler just in case At this point I do not know what Aika was really capable of: Did she know everything that was going to happen- even how it was going to end? Is she still alive and wants to know how it ends? Or is this all in my head and this massive web of intricate betrayals and confusions all a big coincidence and the resolution much simpler than that? If it does turn out to be much simpler I think that I will be really disappointed. |
| So. Gordon Freeman is kidnapping little girls now? It's always the silent ones... |
| I hate how Yoshino keeps thinking about Aika, I really wish he'd get over her and fall in love with Hakaze. Also, I really don't think Yoshino is the mage of Exodus, even though he seems suited for it. |
I am a sucker for romance!!!! ] |
| These flashbacks with Aika and Yoshino are always nice to watch and it is pretty nice to note that he still care a lot about her. Still hoping to see him and Hakaze get together though, who by the way is somehow getting cuter every single episode. Ahh I loved seeing her get embarrassed and conflicted with herself. I just don't see Yoshino being the Mage of Exodus. |
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| I liked this episode, those grannies got jokes lol. I know alot wasnt explained but that is the whole point of keep watching the anime. |
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ArbiterAlCain said: Is she still alive and wants to know how it ends? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| This episode really was nice cause it showed more of Aika but most of all finally closed more the gap of Hakaze’s love for Yoshino. FINALLY! That hug at the end was what really showed all that needed to be shown. About Aika, she really was very daring in the following,  My my I never knew she would dare and she even admits not wearing any bra. Damn! That’s quite daring aright. About Hakaze and Yoshino in the streets. If one notices the foreshadow on the TV of the family. One should read the mood of the whole love marriage and kids theme and the show just emphasizes it. About the Exodus Mage, lovely suit made for him. The OP hinted that but now I know it’s him for sure. The effects and atmosphere is bound as a setup to raise hope. However Megumu does not want it. Little does he know that it’s THOSE STUNTS that will have his girl back with him. Well if she figures out it’s him or finds out he can do that. At worst kidnapping her and using her as booster for Megumu might prove worthy if it has to be done. About the village, I like seeing that little girl Sana and the other kids. Those of Hiroyuki and Miki. I liked a lot the boy cause he teased Hakaze of Yoshino being her boyfriend. The 2 grandmothers were quite hilarious mainly due to how they were shown and their faces. I ROFL when they said they were making loads of kids cause Hakaze really got a priceless face there. About the references, 2 of them as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Denmark And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tempest The first being tragic and the second being happy. It shows that Mahiro is looking at how to end this both ways. Guess he is looking for a way to decide how to end this. However coincidence strikes with the first one that indeed it’s a Lover VS Brother love. Just Mahiro did not realize it yet. About thee end, YES! HAKAZE HUGS YOSHINO! HAKAZE OVER 9000 EMOTIONS! STRONG! YEAH! I will add quietly now Hakaze using magic the sake of love and not logic. AMAZING! Pretty much how the scene was to me. It felt very hyper and emotional! FANS REJOICE! THAT BOX! SNAKES! Indeed I see snake symbols on it and we all know the snake consumes as much as Satan was labelled as one as he consumed human life very much. IMO this box spells doom. About the preview, OMG will Yoshino finally kiss Aika? I see that the Mage of Exodus is going wild again. Overall I am happy with Hakaze going further in her love. |
| I love this show, and reading most of your comments and theories make it more interesting to me, more than half of those theories i would have not thought by myself, and even if they don't happen i enjoy thinking about it. Like Yoshino being the mage of exodus, is rather improbable, but still i would like to see that happen. Aika being the one pulling the strings like a sith lord like someone sais, and so on. Anyway, Hakaze-chan is getting more and more cute, i'm sorry for Aika, i really like her but Hakaze, she's too lovable. WickedHeroine said: Nayrael said: Wow, okay. That makes a lot more sense. Thank you! P.S.- Okay, so if the current Mage of Exodus ISN'T the actual Mage of Exodus, then what the hell is he? The Anime didn't explain it well: they believe that one person inherited powers of the Tempest while another one inherited the personality and will of the Tempest (a theory they came up with for few reasons, one being because they probably find it hard to believe that Tree of Exodus would choose a complete wuss as his harbinger of doom).It does make some sense. Hekshi_Sekshi said: dreadknightnero said: they had me lol'ing too XDThose Grannies and their maiden talk HAHAHAHA Yeah, that was pretty funny... |
Currently watching everything that comes out to avoid missing something good... |
| I may potentially kill myself if hakaze and yoshino dont end up together |
| The insights and theories imparted in this show and in this episode are what I like watching this kind of anime. However, somehow the pacing is somewhat slow. Others here even mentioned about fillers now if based from manga. I am aware that there's still 8 episodes to go for the revelations. Well, I just hope that those moments when these events will be unfolded, will be executed well. Yoshino, why you? You seems like a younger brother to me with your attitude and personality, if we'll talk about relationship here. I really wonder with Aika's taste. *scratches head* Some women like to have a boyfriend with passive personality (can't even touch his girl's leg or initiate the first kiss)...someone they can dictate or have power over. I can quite understand with Hakaze's feeling for him (after the incident of her 'resurrection' though). On the other note, I wish more for Mahiro's screentime. Hahaha, I love his 55 overall getup in this episode. This guy, on the other hand, has strong personality. |
Lieila said: ...Yoshino, why you? You seems like a younger brother to me with your attitude and personality, if we'll talk about relationship here. I really wonder with Aika's taste. *scratches head* Some women like to have a boyfriend with passive personality (can't even touch his girl's leg or initiate the first kiss)...someone they can dictate or have power over. I can quite understand with Hakaze's feeling for him (after the incident of her 'resurrection' though). ... It wasn't her leg Aika was inviting him to touch... But I can understand not wanting to try that experiment in public! She was daring indeed. I am more than a bit sad that Aika is really dead, glad we get to see her in flashbacks but still... More Hanazawa Kana please! Another reason to watch the show... Such great seiyuu! Love Sawashiro Miyuki as Hakaze though and want to see her get together with Yoshino. Totally support that pairing! |
| I don't really get why are they saying Yoshino is the mage of exodus. Isn't it just because Hakaze is in love with Yoshino that she used magic for his sake? What is Tetsuma and co. trying to say? But still Hakaze is too much... Too much cuteness.. Miyuki.. .HHHHNNNNNNGGGG. I like Aika but I am hoping for Hakaze x Yoshino ending. |
hpulley said: Lieila said: ...Yoshino, why you? You seems like a younger brother to me with your attitude and personality, if we'll talk about relationship here. I really wonder with Aika's taste. *scratches head* Some women like to have a boyfriend with passive personality (can't even touch his girl's leg or initiate the first kiss)...someone they can dictate or have power over. I can quite understand with Hakaze's feeling for him (after the incident of her 'resurrection' though). ... It wasn't her leg Aika was inviting him to touch... But I can understand not wanting to try that experiment in public! She was daring indeed. I am more than a bit sad that Aika is really dead, glad we get to see her in flashbacks but still... More Hanazawa Kana please! Another reason to watch the show... Such great seiyuu! Love Sawashiro Miyuki as Hakaze though and want to see her get together with Yoshino. Totally support that pairing! Aika was just teasing Yoshino. She knew he would never have actually touched her. He was shy and awkward and totally wrapped around Aika's finger. This was just another example of Aika power and ability to manipulate. |
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| Wow, i really like this ep. Hakaze is so cute when hugs Yoshino. ^_^ |
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| I'm glad that this is becoming more serious on one side. But there was a lot of comedy in this episode. I can't say that I hate it, but I do prefer serious above comedic. |
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| The episode was really good ; But anyway i think the Kurisabe clan are conspiring a little too much about Yoshino being the mage of Exodus but, i cant say that i think that it may be a possibility too. |
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motrya said: Hakaze is so cute when hugs Yoshino. ^_^ Totally agree :3 |
| Heh Aika is still pulling the world's strings even in death. And I have to say Hakaze is getting way too cute, its infectious. |
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| Didn't enjoy it as much as I did in the previous eps. |
| Although I am still enjoying the series, I felt Hakaze was a stronger character when she was stuck on an island inventing plans to foil her brother. xD |
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| The grannies were funny as hell. Hakaze is adorable. |
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| I'm liking this show and its characters less and less with each new episode I watch. Hakaze's infatuation with Yoshino pretty much transforms her from an awesome, kickass princess into a dumb high school girl in love. I was hoping for her to be more mature about it, seeing how she's older than both Yoshino and Mahiro (though by how many years I don't know), but the directors seems pretty intent on having her take on the "cutesy-lovey-dovey" personality. Also, Hanemura is such a wimp. I don't see what he's doing in the series at all. The only character I still like is Evangeline, as she seems to be the only one who's ready to view both sides of the story (despite hanging around with the "opposition" as of now). It seems she hasn't made her final decision on which side to support yet, and she seems to be pretty much the only one weighing the pros and cons against each other without the influence of love, revenge or some other emotion interfering with logic and reason. Frankly, I don't know whether I like this series or not. |
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