The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (light novel)
| Episode 1 - Watch curiously. Episode 2 - Kind of bored but it's still k. Episode 3~8 - ZZZZZZzzz~ |
| Watched the first two maybe, but then just scrolled through them to see the differences |
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| i question how people can even pretend to defend this shit i mean looking past the whole 8 of the same damn episodes repeated with minor visual changes thing the episode that was getting repeated wasnt good in the first place |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I tried. Then I gave up at 6. I slept through 7, then woke up at 8 for the twist... which was... uhhhh... |
 「みんながいるからだ。」 － 棗鈴 |
| Nice know I'm not the only person in existence who enjoyed Endless Eight. |
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| i've done 5 up to now, and i'm trying my best to finish the other 3. But i'm already at the verge of breaking down. This is some crazy stuff alright. |
on | uwoooooooooohh!YES! I've finally finished this shit. My god. I'm so tired now, it felt like i've been looping endlessly. I think i'm going to go to bed, to all those who managed to finish all the episodes without fast forwarding and all, salute. |
| Genius move. Bad as an actual anime product, but if you look at the bigger picture, it's existence itself is an incredibly amusing trolling, that was worth all the money it costed to create it. |
Bronzejack said: Kiev said: uwoooooooooohh!YES! I've finally finished this shit. My god. I'm so tired now, it felt like i've been looping endlessly. I think i'm going to go to bed, to all those who managed to finish all the episodes without fast forwarding and all, salute. Hope you enjoy the rest of the episodes, Also make sure to watch the movie after you've finished the anime, It's REALLY good. Just finished it awhile ago, yes its really good. This twist, the plot, everything was fit together properly. I had to say i enjoyed it alot. :) |
What about the endless eight? Did you watch all of them and if so, thoughts? Yea like i said i managed to finish all of them without fast forwarding. Well, since i watch them all in a row i kind of got sick of them, it's not like i hated it, but i just find that this particular arc seemed to be a bit faint and it felt like a let down. This deja-vu thing really got into me and sometimes when i have them i wonder if i might be stuck in the same situation or not! (lol) I have to say i am a bit fan of this series and the first season was really great. But the second season was just meh (so-so), not entirely because of the long and endless looping endless eight chapter, but the rest of the chapters were pale in comparison with the first season, i especially find haruhi a little bit annoying ( in the second season). Kyon's still the man though, he's the only character i liked from the start until the end, and Yuki nagato as well. And with that said i was really happy to see the sweet scene with kyon and nagato at the end of the movie. The movie was real good, and when i thought it might be a letdown after a disappointing 2nd season but no, they managed to pull a real good one this time. And as a fan of this series, i'm real glad for that. |
| At least you didn't have to do it 15,500+ times like Yuki did o_o I enjoyed the episodes personally, how they changed the scenes subtly and managed to tell the stories from 8 different angles c: Was a bit boring when I got to episode 7 though because I heard the movie was awesome and simply cannot wait to watch it >_< |
"Now's the time for you to run towards the day you awaken from this dream." ~Boys be Smile |
Hidendra said: I watched all eight and enjoyed all of them without getting bored. I personally think that with 8 it showed the desperation at that point. Using say just 4 or 5 may not have had the same effect. It reminded me of Steins;Gate (which has time loops as well) so now I think I'll go watch some of that again after I watch the Suzumiya movie... Yeah, it's the same for me too. Was it repetitive? Well, of course it was. Worthless? Without the Endless Eight, we wouldn't have that impression of the character of Nagato that was useful to understand the main events in the movie. And it was effective. Because the desperation we felt with eight damn episodes can't be comparable with what Nagato may have experienced in 15,500+ repeats. Another reason why I don't exactly enjoy it more, but respect it a lot is the fact that every episode is done independently although telling basically the same story, how do the shots change in each one of them. Tell me how many series would care to do that if tried a "genius troll" like this. Very few, probably none. And finally, the story is well-structured, perfectly well-structured, because it's a time loop, from the objective view it may look like that, the same reactions, the same events happening, in that sense it does exactly what it needs and actually transmits the feelings that it implies. I don't know if the visual novel presented it in this way but what I am sure about is that by the end of the arc the fans were completely in par with Nagato. And that's something to take into account. The ending is brilliant, by the way. Demistifying and perfectly adjusted to the characters. I like it. |
| I actually plan on re-watching Haruhi (I make it a point to watch this series at least once a year) and I'm considering watching Endless Eight all the way through, which is something I honestly didn't have the heart to do last time. But, I can say that when I first watched Endless Eight the reactions in these forums was priceless. I'm honestly not sure if I've ever seen such rage before and it cracked me up. It really made the experience worth it. As for what I myself thought of EE, I'm thinking along the same lines as Jal90 above me. It definitely isn't my favorite Haruhi story arc, but I respect the amount of effort Kyoani went to in this arc. I mean, they actually animated every episode and changed character appearances and so on. Not to mention the balls it had to have took to do this obviously risky story arc. Don't get me wrong, though, I can see why many people dislike this arc but I just don't agree. Call me an idiot or whatever. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Imagine this "Endless Fourteen" |
| Anime is art. Good art evokes emotion. If Endless Eight makes you feel ANYTHING, then it did its job. I not only watched it, but I watched it all in one sitting. By the end, my only thought was: "Wow, I went nuts after just 8, I can't imagine going through it 15,532 times!" |
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| I thought it was a bit repetitive... lol? I somewhat liked the idea but I don't think they needed to air it eight times, four would have been good enough. That would also mean that we would have got four other episodes. One thing that I kept thinking about was; who has eight different swimsuits? |
| I thought the solution would be for Kyon to ask her out on a date on the 31st. I did enjoy the arc but it was a bit tiring. Thought it would be a little like Steins;Gate, but I was completely wrong. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| The pool portion of episodes were what kept me from stop watching this series for at least 3 months. |
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| I hated it when I first watched it but looking back I find it totally taking the "next step" into immersing the viewer into the anime. Kyon lived through the same day over one thousand times.(I believe? Been awhile since I watched it.) And each time as time went on he began to feel as though something was more and more wrong as time went on and got irritated by the feeling he had when he remembered certain portions of his days. Watching the endless eight really bothersome, repetitive and irritating. I'm pretty sure Kyon felt these as well where he could recite some of the words he knew someone was going to say.(Where repetition allows us to be in the same shoes as him.) Same goes with that bothersome feeling and irritation. Eight episodes really pushed it though. No way in hell if I re-watch the series am I going to watch all 8 episodes again. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| The first two and the last episodes were decent, but I had to drop the show halfway through and resume weeks later because I got so bored. I still don't understand why they made Endless Eight. |
| "Our everyday lives may, in fact, be a series of miracles." - Nichijou |
| I'm currently watching them now. I began watching them when my siblings got home, so they suffered through the first three because of me and their rage was pretty damn funny. I actually enjoyed them up until the 4-6th parts. THAT is when it gets repetitive, because the entire time i'm just thinking Kyon will at least try to find a solution to it by making up some random event to do, but he doesn't. He just lets her go. And no one bothers to ask Nagato to tell them in the beginning of the next repeat so they don't just have a couple hours before the cycle begins again to see what Haruhi wants. She may be an observer, but she's followed their orders before, so why not now? Can't they just ask Haruhi what she wants too? Yeah, obviously i got sucked into them. The first few were good because you can feel their desperation, and they are the most different what with actually finding out their situation and Kyon easily noticing the de ja vu, but the rest are just Kyon repeatedly doing this without any development what so ever. I think so far these episodes were good, but had they been specials in a DVD or something, or a separate OVA, it might have gotten less hate than it did. Making the viewers of the original airing suffer 8 weeks of this is too much. I'm watching it mainly all in one go, and while watching them isn't that bad for me, hearing the same lines over and over again irks me. I was really sleepy on the 7th part so i just turned off everything and took a long nap, but once i finish them i'll have a definite overall opinion on them. |
| must... finish... arc... can't... hold on... much longer... (at #5) |
| So, I am not exactly sure if this was answered but, in terms of the Endless Eight, do you have to watch them all or can you skip seven of them and be in the right place story wise? I am watching the series now and am almost there. I have heard so much about this 'Endless Eight' and I personally don't have the time to watch the same thing eight times. I would rather advance the story. What would you all recommend? |
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| I wasn't there when Season 2 first started airing (I only recently finished the anime) but i can imagine the frustration fans went through after waiting three years for a new season, only to be greeted with Endless Eight... Just incredibly poor timing on KyoAni's part! They went experimental on us and it just didn't work. It's a cool concept, one that fits right in with the Suzumiya universe, but it was just poorly executed. I haven't read the novels so i don't know if it's like this, but I was hoping for something akin to Groundhog Day where you see and learn something different after each timejump, but that didn't happen... It was pretty much the same episode over and over again... 4 episodes i can agree to, but 8? That's total overkill! (Those last 90 minutes could've been used on other stories!) People watching it now (like me) wont be too bothered by it though since we can just skip to good parts, but man, what a wasted opportunity! It's even worse to think about that they probably turned people off the show by doing Endless Eight in this caliber ;_; |
who_dat_ninjaAug 20, 2012 12:59 PM
CrimsonLight said: Episode 1 - Watch curiously. Episode 2 - Kind of bored but it's still k. Episode 3~8 - ZZZZZZzzz~ ^This. You could only watch episode 1 and 8 it wouldn't make a difference seeing that ep 2-7 are carbon copies of 8, minor the 'at last' ending, and those minor cosmetic changes. |
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Holybaptiser said: I thought the solution would be for Kyon to ask her out on a date on the 31st. I did enjoy the arc but it was a bit tiring. Thought it would be a little like Steins;Gate, but I was completely wrong. I was hoping for that so badly. It was a total let down when the solution wound up being that they needed to do their homework (even though I still knew that would be how it ended from the novels) instead of taking Koizumi's advice on Nagato's roof. |
 Always the same old taste, just new injury Well I'll wear the claws if you'd like that |
OLHearts said: At least you didn't have to do it 15,500+ times like Yuki did o_o Exactly, well said. To all moaners, with due respect for your opinions: Come on. I've watched both seasons twice, and by saying that, I mean it was Endless Sixteen for me. I actually find this funny how I could recite most of the lines during the second watch-through... And all the variances in the dialogue - even when the characters were saying the same stuff for 8 episodes, they changed the pitch of the voices and intonation differently. It's not like you can say this arc was okay if your attitude towards it is more or less like "WTF? Same episode 8 times? Crap crap crap crap I won't watch it!". This arc was meant to be monotonous, you had to feel like you were the one repeating the same period of summer 8 times. And you remembered it, right? You went through this just 8 times and you're angry already. Nagato had to watch it 15,532 times, I mean come on! Don't you get it? Weren't you hoping Kyon can end this loop in every episode? You were. Now imagine Nagato. And that's what Endless Eight is about. |
| 「飾って笑った笑顔の裏に 泣いて崩れた君がいたんだね なおも君は笑ってくれたね こんな僕を支えてくれてありがと」  |
| The main reason I watched the second season is because of... that. I see this as an experimental idea, which while it seems to be something quite interesting take they're going through... but seeing the same thing 7 more times is... well... a little too much. ^^; It would've been fine if there's just only three, maybe have the other two episodes combined together into an hour length feature. Or perhaps have different point-of-view for characters (I can understand it revolves around the life of Kyon experiences, but a little more background for others would've been nice). Sure each episode of Endless Eight has characters with different clothes and acts a bit differently, going to different places... slightly... skipping and so so. But to me, we're looking at the same situation that's happening to them over 15,000 times. Honestly, seeing that same episode starts to wear out for me, but hey, on the 8th loop, it sure ended with a bang. A good bang, a satisfaction for surviving the nonstop looping. XD My buddy bro was right... |
| No u |
| I'm going to finally comment on this after lurking these forums forever. Endless Eight is my bar for how bored I can get in an anime. My emotions during these episode went as: interested > bored > astonished > bored > irritatingly bored > infuriatingly bored > hopelessly bored > heart wrenching disappointment. When I sit down and attempt to rate an anime now, I try to recall how I felt during these episodes and compare, and for that I am grateful. edit: I understand that they were trying to convey Nagato's feelings, but I was able to understand after the 3rd episode with this little thing called imagination. The rest of the episodes were unnecessary and just wasted the season. I can understand how shocking it would be to have an arm cut off, without cutting off my finger. |
redinsideDec 21, 2012 1:25 AM
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| I may have cheated (I dropped 2 eps), but I had a lot of fun with this arc! Since everyone hinted that that the second thru seventh timeloops were exactly the same, I decided to play around and randomly skipped back an forth between eps. I watch ep1 then ep2 then jump to 6 then flop back to 3 then 5 then 7 and finally 8! Ep 7 was kind of my fav because it felt like the mental breakdown the arc was trying to make you experience, what with all the random rewinds within the episode. But in the end, I was LMAO when Kyon screamed "LET'S DO OUR HOMEWORK!!!" XD |
OLHearts said: At least you didn't have to do it 15,500+ times like Yuki did o_o I enjoyed the episodes personally, how they changed the scenes subtly and managed to tell the stories from 8 different angles c: Was a bit boring when I got to episode 7 though because I heard the movie was awesome and simply cannot wait to watch it >_< This would be such a poor argument in favor of endless 8 if people actually considered this seriously. This whole work is fiction, so I'm not really sure why anyone would bring this up to talk about the quality of production. The producers could have used one, at most two episodes to get across the same points, but instead they forced the anime to adhere to a measly name of an arc. People watching this on a tv would be concerned if they were watching a rerun or something. It really is a waste of time, on our part and on theirs, since much of the stuff is the same. People wait weekly for a new episode to come out and this is what they're getting. If everyone would analyze this situation more objectively, it wouldn't be so difficult to see that this is a bad idea. I cannot imagine why anyone would like this arc other than they are fanboys/girls that want to uphold the reputation of this anime and refuse to look at its production at an objective standpoint. |
| So I've recently picked up Haruhi series again, and I didn't really watch the second season awhile back, I only spoiled myself... But then I was reading the tropes website and it listed some things I missed out on during the Endless eight.... and after watching the endless eight, I can say that I happily watched it.... There are quite a few Haruhi and Kyon shipping moments during the episodes. They change them up where they're placed as well which I liked. |
| Yes, I also decided to watch Endless Eight after reading some tropes and stuff. I've got to admit that it started getting on my nerves, but, oh well - in the 7th EP. |
Lang said: Imagine this "Endless Fourteen" no No NO NO NOONOONONONONOONOONO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Darkozzy said: OLHearts said: At least you didn't have to do it 15,500+ times like Yuki did o_o Exactly, well said. To all moaners, with due respect for your opinions: Come on. I've watched both seasons twice, and by saying that, I mean it was Endless Sixteen for me. I actually find this funny how I could recite most of the lines during the second watch-through... And all the variances in the dialogue - even when the characters were saying the same stuff for 8 episodes, they changed the pitch of the voices and intonation differently. It's not like you can say this arc was okay if your attitude towards it is more or less like "WTF? Same episode 8 times? Crap crap crap crap I won't watch it!". This arc was meant to be monotonous, you had to feel like you were the one repeating the same period of summer 8 times. And you remembered it, right? You went through this just 8 times and you're angry already. Nagato had to watch it 15,532 times, I mean come on! Don't you get it? Weren't you hoping Kyon can end this loop in every episode? You were. Now imagine Nagato. And that's what Endless Eight is about. ALL OF THIS! I managed to watch every episode of the Endless 8 without fast-forwarding. I think it was a very daring thing for the anime to do - it turned a lot of people off, but at the same time, it was clever: it made the watcher feel like their life was being repeated too. Each episode of the E8 was the same length as a standard anime episode, which made it drag so much BUT that's what made it feel even more satisfying when it finally ended. As someone who has a soft spot for Yuki, it made me feel emotional - she had to repeat the same day thousands of times, when most of us found it boring as hell for 'only' eight episodes. Had the Endless 8 not existed, how would we even begin to fathom what Yuki was going through? |
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