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Feb 25, 2011 4:45 PM
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It's okay. Not as bad as everyone says but it should've been a series probably.
Apr 26, 2011 2:33 PM
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I think people get upset at this show because of the perceived wasted potential it represents. There's nothing compelling about it, the overall story doesn't even conclude by the end of the movie. Annamarie's defection felt rushed and had no impact. Sure the F91 gets some good moments fighting the "Killer Tops" and against Iron Mask and his ugly mobile armor, but it just felt like a series of battles for the sake of action.

This is Gundam paraphrased. It's not even a decent recommendation for a starter series into the metaverse. It's not bad, but it's also forgettable. And that can't be a good thing.

Jun 26, 2011 1:36 PM
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This movie is best watched with Gundam wiki opened in the next tabs so you can figure out what is going on. Otherwise: Jupiter Empire, Crossbone Vanguard, Cosmo Babylonia, Frontier Colonies???
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Jul 10, 2011 5:11 PM
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So did anyone else notice that Seabrook's mom looks exactly like Kamille?
Jan 19, 2013 9:26 AM
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Nice movie! I loved it! It's too bad it wasn't a series, because it has such potential...

Yeah, the story was rushed and it didn't concluded at the end, but I was good even though. It must have a sequence, a prequel, a series with more details, or something like that!

None of the characters were deslikable, we were able to see the true horrors of war with the opening scene, the fact they put kids to fight the war wasn't forced(It was as natural as the original Gundam), and there were great battle sequences and amazing animation.

I'll try to find the novel adaptation of this series and it's sequences.

This movie is WAY better than Char's Counterattack, even though I like it :P
Feb 21, 2013 5:54 PM
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Sure, the length took a toll on this movie, but it wasn't really horrible. There's a lot between bad and a masterpiece. Even being fine is still good.

I really like the little details Tomino inserts in his shows/movies, like creative deaths (that woman with the baby), people just tripping and falling over, or Kamille falling from the motorcycle. That scene with Arthur was really done well. Even though we knew shit about Arthur and he was just a black kid who died, Arno really made it tragic and sad with his lines. But the best part was IMO the beginning. The attack in the colony isn't new to Gundam, but it was never done this well. Heck, I've never seen an attack in a city done this well.

The part with the bugs could have been better, but it was a good idea, which was later recycled in 00 as Tachikomas Autobots or whatever they were. Too bad Rafflesia's time was cut too short. The Mobile Armor itself wasn't interesting, but the fight between Arno and Iron Mask could have lasted longer. The scene at the end with Arno looking for Cecily was well done. It really reminded me of Squall and Rhinoa from FF8.

While not the best Gundam installment, it was still fun to watch (twice). Now if only they animated Crossbone haha.

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Man this would have been much better as a series :(
Jumpy pacing killed it mostly, the setting or the characters weren't fleshed out..a real shame.
But still better than Char's Counterattack and that god awful Gundam 00 movie.

6/10
Oct 11, 2013 2:18 PM
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The problem with this movie is that unless you're a Gundam fan, you'll be horribly confused with how rushed and choppy everything is. It feels more like a clipshow and that previous knowledge is required.I don't think it's a terrible movie, there's certainly a bunch there that had potential, but I can hardly call it anywhere near good.

...For a newbie, at least. Gundam fans will probably (and seem to, lol) like it more.

4/10. Nothing in this movie made me care (yes, even the deaths were "whatever"), it barely entertained me, and it left me too confused. Only the animation of the 2011 version, the possible potential, and a few small details gave it a 4.
Jan 6, 2014 4:01 PM
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I had high expectations but man it felt too rush to be enjoyed
Jan 22, 2014 5:40 PM

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Wow this could've been one of the best Gundams out there, but only to be one of the mediocre ones.
Sakarii said:

...For a newbie, at least.
7.09... sure Gundam fans truly love it.
Plus watching Gundam backwards is always a plus!
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Man this movie was a mess.
I mean I liked the premise and the visuals were stunning. But of course the pacing was very rushed and the directing was all over the place. And there's hardly a connection to the previous UC Gundams. It also felt very mean spirited and dark. Very different in tone from the traditional Gundam.

Too bad it didn't get a full 50 episode series, more Gundams are always welcome.

Oh well, looks like Victory Gundam is up next..
Feb 14, 2014 11:56 PM
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It was enjoyable, but it could have been better for sure. Plot and pacing was lacking, but I liked the action and characters.
Feb 18, 2014 12:35 PM

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IRC this was supposed to be a full length 50 episode series so yeah it was really rushed.

But yeah it was definitely really dark and was very cruel.
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I liked it a lot, just watched the 2011 rerelease and though I didn't understand everything, I liked it. A full series should have probably been the way to go or several OVAS like Unicorn but oh well.
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Hmm, am I the only one who really enjoyed this? I too, would've liked it to be a series of course, but I thought this was a really really nice movie. Definitely the best Gundam movie outside of Unicorn's that I've seen.

It was a bit rushed at times, but it didn't affect my viewing that much.

I liked the ending, and did get somewhat invested in the characters in such a short time, which actually slightly surprised me.

[b]9 7[/b]/10

Edit (15.11.2014)

Wow, I happened to stumble on this discussion, and the fact that I gave this a 9/10 surprised me. >.>

So yeah, I lowered my score to 7 ages ago. I think I was in some kind of a Gundam high back when I saw this, coming from the shittiness that was ZZ, and overrated this completely. The movie was enjoyable, but is definitely not worth a near-perfect score.

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I agree that they should've made this into a series instead of a movie, definitely felt rushed. Who knows, might've actually enjoyed it if it was a series.
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for what its worth i enjoyed it, its depressing to see it not reach its full potential given the crap run time of a movie that pretty much ostracizes most stories. I gave it a 7

way fucking better than chars counterattack at least

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I think you people are nuts and far too forgiving based on the ill fated circumstances behind this movie's existence. The first 25 or so minutes are fairly interesting as your typical Gundam set up, but from there it plays out like a terribly rushed recap movie with huge gaps in storytelling, logic, and character development. Oh wait because that's exactly what it is. It's a terrible movie honestly, the Bugs fight might have been the only interesting thing about it after the first quarter. You can see there was potential, but that doesn't change what it is. Despite it's huge problems CCA (which no one is forgiving of ironically despite also having production issues) is definitely above this for me and it's not even close.
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So did anyone else notice that Seabrook's mom looks exactly like Kamille?


Yes. Fuck, I even thought they were gonna reveal Kamille was Seabook's grandfather or something.

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I think you people are nuts and far too forgiving based on the ill fated circumstances behind this movie's existence. The first 25 or so minutes are fairly interesting as your typical Gundam set up, but from there it plays out like a terribly rushed recap movie with huge gaps in storytelling, logic, and character development. Oh wait because that's exactly what it is. It's a terrible movie honestly, the Bugs fight might have been the only interesting thing about it after the first quarter. You can see there was potential, but that doesn't change what it is. Despite it's huge problems CCA (which no one is forgiving of ironically despite also having production issues) is definitely above this for me and it's not even close.


Exactly this, Could not have described it better.

Nope said:

Plus watching Gundam backwards is always a plus!


How is that a plus?

Edit: who the fuck thought it was a good idea to rip off Star Wars OST? What a disgrace
Nov 2, 2015 5:54 AM

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I thought the first 20 minutes were really good. Everything after that felt rushed. I didn't like Carozzo's mask either.

6/10
Nov 24, 2015 8:45 AM

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Really people wanted 50 episodes of this? Through this movie, you can clearly see what Tomino was thinking, and granted the movie was supposed to set up a second film which never happened. The problem with F91 is that if it was given 50 episodes I bet 15-20 of those would just be "filler" unless he combined all of the ideas from the Crossbone manga as well.

In reality, F91 should have been a 12 episode OVA or 3 part movie series.

5/10 for me but I agree this part of the UC timeline wasted potential.
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A lot of this movie ended up being quite uninspiring for me. I do think it could have been pretty good, but i just can't over look how things jumped around from moment to moment..and blaming it solely because it wasn't what it was intended to be is a pretty poor excuse too. I still have to question; why bother having the Annamarie defection, it literally did nothing for this movie.

6/10, some of the story seemed pretty interesting at least.


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It was ok, just forgettable. It would be much better as a TV series, it's a shame.
Tomino and movies aren't a good combination.
I think I will read Cross bone manga, seems everyone liked it.
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What did I just watch?! *_*
The potential renewal of everything that made Gundam, served by absolutely gorgeous drawings and animation, sadly damaged by circumstances around its creation.

So much attention for details (I loved Cecilia's hairs line variation based on the lighting), no awkward dialogue, Yasuhiko Yoshikazu's art in its most sublime rendition (along with Venus Wars)...
By the way, looks like he recycled one character-design (Dorel) for Unicorn (Angelo):
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The worst aspect was the music: it was "invisible". And the cuts of course. (it was hurting the relations between characters more than my understanding of the movie though)

The long opening sequence was certainly one of the best military attacks I have ever seen and the best Colony attack I saw in a Gundam.
The characters, especially the two central ones, were certainly interesting and had a good potential. Particularly to treat in a larger/better way a theme who had been more or less visible in previous incarnations: the family. (and the adults/children confrontation the director likes). And the other young and less young members of the crew seemed to make a good replacement for my favourite squad (the 0079 White Base).
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The mobile suits designs were a welcomed change (the Crossbone "grunts" units being in the tradition of the Zaku, a monster-looking MS) marking a will in the rejuvenation of the title I suppose.
The apparition of beam shields made sense, the return to moderate sizes (for "economic" purposes) came at the right time (after the monstruous Sazabi and Nu).
The way the Newtype element is treated makes everything we went through until now seem so aimless in the Newtype department: it is sad to see how this became nothing more than a legend of super pilots/soldiers. In the end, one of the things the past heroes tried to fight became the common idea: newtypes are warriors.
"bugs" were a new step in the horror of man slaughter: it looked less simple than the effective gaz attacks but were in a sense more horrifying.
The final sequence was simply good.

Enjoyment: 5/5
Score: 4~6/10 How am I supposed to rate something who was first amputed, then left without the sequel it was relying on ? (I seriously can't understand how 0083 could be more well-received to the detriment of).

When I see this, I have some difficulties to believe Zeta and G-Reco weird making are the works of the same man. I am seriously confused, because on one side, there is this and Mobile Suit Gundam who have really well told stories (for the limits they had to put with) and on the other hand, there are those other titles where Tomino was either at its peak of power/popularity or welcomed as a living God who are terribly told.
I read somewhere that the chara-designer who handled some animation posts too, Yasuhiko, had some inputs into the creative part on 0079 and accepted to come back for F91 on the condition he would take a part in the creation too. Is he the one who "balanced" out Tomino's problems ?


PS: strange that no one complained about this...
15h29m07s954 (the Tomino T-shirt)

Also, I liked that one:
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@St0rmblade I imagine the colony's assault would have taken at least two, maybe even three episodes out of the 13 we "saw". With a calmer "everyday" first half of the first episode.
Glad you didn't complain about the mecha-design. As for the charadesign, it isn't nice to imply that Yasuhiko tends to reuse his characters ;)
About the lack of tech progression, I thought the new beam tech was pretty impressive. The size reduction too (plus the sleeker designs it offered). But, seeing how the Federation is started to crumble at that time, it's not too surprising to see less progress in their army's tech than one could expect in 30 years. That plus the fact you can hardly go beyond two hyper specialized giants of steel made almost "sur mesure" for two special people.

"why do people seem to think that it's "barely understandable"? " Don't you know that "MALers" love to exagerate ? ;)

Let's say... a 7? :D
After all, you did notice the essential part of the film:

P.P.S. Cecily looks awesome


About Tomino's novels, at least we can read the first ones, and a portion of Hathaway's.

PS: please, try to watch Victory's early episodes in the intended order, not the producers/TV one. ;)
By the way, it is as little related to F91 than this one is to the initial UC saga. But, obviously, set not too long after F91, the situation is much of the same (weakened Federation, legends of the old war, reduced size robots etc).


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@Unowen They are. Originally, there were VLC screenshots in those places but the hosting website purged everything last year so I replaced them with the timestamp printed in the files names (picture files I obviously don't have anymore).
Sorry for the disturbance. ^^" (and thanks for telling they were wrong)


August 6, 2021
@Catalyze Out of curiosity, what led you to watch F91 of all Gundam? (It's rather famous for being a summary of a handful of episodes salvaged from an avorted project.)
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Well, that was a whole lot of fucking nothing.

I'm sorry but this movie was poop. People talk about its wasted potential, but really, all I see here is that it missed the opportunity to be a decent to good Gundam movie at best : there were some cool ideas here and there about nobility and the weight of responsibility that were vaguely reminiscent of the "white man's burden", and the first quarter of the movie was fittingly violent and tragic for a Colony raid, but that's about it really. It felt that all the interesting concepts and themes introduced in other works were completely abandonned, so much that around halfway through the film the only thing that reminded me that I was watching a Gundam was Carozzo's stupid mask.
As pretty much everyone in this thread has already pointed out, this movie was hardly anything more than a glorified summary of what should have been a full-length TV series. Terrible transitions between scenes in the second half of the movie, barely understandable plot that only begins to make sense to anyone when watched with a wiki page tab opened next to it, no context nor visible ties to earlier Gundam entries and an inconclusive ending, all of which gave me little reason to care about whatever was happening on screen.
Gotta give credits where it's due, though: the character and mech animation was beautiful and the movie itself contained very little if any of the usual Tomino-isms that I despise in his other works (namely the rampant misogyny, the awkward asf dialogues and the borderline pathological stupidity of the main characters). That being said I'm not gonna praise Tomino just because he chose not personally offend his audience this time around.

I read on wiki that he said F91 was made to be more accessible to non-Gundam fan audience by being less confusing than CCA and focused on more universal themes like family and such, and thus was a "success story-wise", and it honeslty made me laugh. How is that shit supposed to be accessible to anybody, Gundam fan or otherwise?! Get your shit together, Tomino.
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@Sapewloth About the "inconclusive ending", and the "summary of what should have been a full lengty TV series": it is in fact the summary of the 13 first episodes of the cancelled TV series. (well a summary with too much focus on the big action and not enough connection scenes)


Because of the recent review of this movie by ANN, Zeonic Scanlations has started the project to translate interviews about F91 "to dispel some of the current rumors going around about F91 following an erroneous review with bogus claims".
You can find the first part of this current work here:
http://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=4377


edit @Sapewloth in case you're interested. If not, my excuses.
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Okay so it is no masterpiece, but it is great for what it is!
Cmon this was a 50 episode show that had to be condensed into a 2hr movie, and it did a damn good job at doing it! It for sure was not perfect but it was incredibly enjoyable and the last few minutes when they were searching Cecily was breathtaking!

Incredibly underrated in my view 8.5 or 9/10
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It was super forgettable, and the F91 Gundam was so plain. Extremely rushed and messy, I'm surprised I was able to follow along, it was jumping all over the place. The characters were enjoyable, and nothing annoyed me which prevents a further lower score, but this is a Gundam I didn't care too much about or feel that invested with. 4/10
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I like how realistic it was, especially with all the panic and confusion going around. They could've expanded a bit more on the characters and their motives though.
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Well, that was obviously rushed. However, I liked almost every individual aspect, or at the very least I could appreciate what it could have been if fleshed out. I think there was a decent job done of the film filling in its own blanks, so although there is a lot of space missing between scenes, there is still a logic to it that makes sense. Should have been a series. As a film, well directed and engaging. I enjoyed it.
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I'll go out on a limb and say I'm actually glad that 50-eps worth of content was compressed into a single movie, because (to me) it came across as a re-hash of the same old Gundam tropes and themes with only some minor surface-level details changed. As it stands, I feel the movie makes for a nice popcorn-level experience for viewers familiar with Gundam tropes, especially with the drawn-out and well-choreographed evacuation sequence and of course the top-notch audiovisual production.

PS: Cecily's reunion easily the best moment in the movie.
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@MisterGibbon It was actually using the 13eps scripts already made when the format was definitely chosen.
Obviously, it was a "rehash": it was supposed to be a return to the beginning of Gundam (return of the old collaborators too) while adding the theme of family as a new layer for Tomino to explore through the war. (just like he decided to explore another theme through Victory)



Well I meant that left to his own devices Tomino would very likely have preferred to stretch it to 50 eps like he has in the past (and that a re-hash, even if intentional, isn't something I'd personally care for is all I meant to convey) but if your reply was more of an FYI heads-up then sure, good to know, thanks.
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Nah I enjoy these kinds of back-and-forths, no sweat
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holy sh*t that was horible
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Well, visually speaking, this movie was a treat to watch especially the opening scenes but other than that, not so much. Which is a shame really, it could've been improved if they made another movie and not necessarily a full series.
But yeah, this is definitely nowhere near char's counterattack by any means.
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Is this the best colony infiltration scene ever? The chaos of the tv series squeezed into a 2-hour movie contributed to the chaos that war brings to civilians and it ended up being "awesome" (if it's even a correct word to use for such a scene). There were so many tragedies shown in such a short amount of time. The scene when a mom was killed by a falling empty shell from a mobile suit really sticked with me.

Easter eggs in the beginning:
- "Beautiful life Tomino" on a guy's coat
- "Amuro bank"

The theme playing on 47:06 really reminds me of Imperial march from Star Wars o_o

Cpt. Bardo's seiyuu - Norio Wakamoto! Recognized him instantly :3

Dorel looked liked a prototype of Angelo from Gundam Unicorn.

Anyway, potentially nice but incomplete story about insane space monarchists with mobile suits looking like a mix of designs from the middle ages and a cyberpunk dystopia. Visually great (just like CCA), but the movie obviously didn't flash out everything it was supposed to. At least I came in knowing about production issues, so I was prepared. I see there's quite a lot of manga material about "Crossbone Gundam". And a novel by Tomino (which I'll never read anyway, I guess). Really no idea what to thing about this "movie" (a recap for a show that never was). Visually great, nice ideas, but way too rushed, etc. Though I gotta appreciate the final fight against giant space tentacle mecha xD
As far as the story goes though...why do people seem to think that it's "barely understandable"? I did read the wiki page after watching the movie and got nothing new out of it. Pretty comprehensible (unlike the abilities of Gundam F91...what were those afterimages during the last battle?)

Also pretty funny how some of the things from UC are basically legends now (like newtypes). Though in terms of mobile suits development, not much progress has been done, it seems (if we exclude that giant space tentacle bug). After watching this movie I feel like Unicorn Gundam features waaay too overpowered mechas for its time in UC. It's not surprising given that it inserted itself into the UC only recently, I guess.

So did anyone else notice that Seabrook's mom looks exactly like Kamille?

Kamille evolved into the protagonist's mom, humanity is progressing just like Zeon predicted.

P.S. I wonder if Victory Gundam is related to this movie (or novel/manga retellings) story-wise. Or are they just in one timeline and nothing else?

P.P.S. Cecily looks awesome and reminds me of Juri Arisugawa from Revolutionary Girl Utena. Though after cutting her hair she resembled Mineva (in her story too). Annemarie gave me Lalah vibes. 6-7/10, I think.

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I imagine the colony's assault would have taken at least two, maybe even three episodes out of the 13 we "saw". With a calmer "everyday" first half of the first episode.

I actually think that the almost instant assault contributed to the whole chaotic feel, the viewer (and the characters) didn't have time to feel comfy. Not sure if it'd have the same effect with a longer "calm" sequence.
Glad you didn't complain about the mecha-design.

This didn't even cross my mind, the new mechas look great :o

Regarding Victory...production issues again? Or something like the first episode of ZZ, which was a lengthy preview? I'l try to figure the intended order out.



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Rei_III said:
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Also, I liked that one:
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Are those supposed to be timestamps. Because Amuro bank shows at 11m39s, not sure what you wrote there.
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The film is back on GundamInfo (for the week-end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CUQkw2aMRU
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The best part of this movie is Eternal Wind being used on the soundtrack. That's the only part of it I actually legit liked, if Eternal Wind could be used for some other anime movie that had a better script it would be awesome.

Too much of this movie is just a repeat of 0079 stuff with even more Star Wars thrown in including the music getting close to copying John Williams score note by note.

Though our main character Seabrook and his friends remind me of the main characters from Venus Wars almost.

And to think Seed gets derided for copying 0079 too much. This movie invented the whole copying 0079 Gundam too much and it's from it's own creator! And I'm not even going to get into the unfinished nature of the whole thing because yes I know it did poorly and it was part of an unfinished TV series.

Yes I actually think Victory Gundam is way better than this even with all of it's death. It at least is sort of different and not a carbon copy of 0079. I also think CCA is a better Gundam movie even if parts of it don't quite make much sense. I like Amuro vs. Char better than whatever conflict is going on here with Cosmo Babylonia being just another Zeon clone vs. Seabrook and friends.

This might get a 5/10 for me because the animation is pretty good regardless and also Eternal Wind is that good. It's a pretty mediocre entry into the Gundam franchise though.
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I like how this movie is not afraid of showing random civilians being killed. Anyways the pacing is fine for a movie. I read F-91 was originally planned as a full-length television series but I think they did what they could. This is one of the best animated Gundam from the 90's era. This is the eleventh Gundam I've started watching and my eleventh completed Gundam. 7/10 for the movie.
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The first half hour is really good, but then as the film goes on it begins to lose steam. That said, the movie has a little bit better pacing than CCA.

It wasn't immediately obvious to me that the story was taking place on two different colonies. I thought that the Feddie carrier ship was actually hiding inside the heroes' home colony that the Crossbone Vanguard took over, not a different colony (that is presumably in the same Side?). I think it would have been more effective if the whole movie was just set in the same colony, that way we are invested in the fate of the colony (since it's our heroes' hometown and it's the place we see the most of).

They really captured the horror of autonomous/automated/unmanned weapons. That feeling of being hunted down and killed by some alien looking machine. Gundam Wing touched upon that with the unmanned Leos, with how eerie it was to see the cockpit interiors of the Leos be empty and the throttles and joysticks to move with no one touching them. But the Leos were mobile suits that looked like humans, so the horror wasn't quite as alien as having floating sawblades coming after you, like here.

I quite liked Seabook. He's tied with Judau as my favorite Gundam protagonist. Has empathy for his enemies but isn't a wimp like Amuro/Kamille/Banagher was, nor was he an emotionless badass like Heero/Setsuna/Mikazuki were.

I liked how the grappling hook for maneuvering around zero-gravity environments that was introduced in CCA came back. Sadly I don't think the grappling hook shows up again in Gundam after this. Also interesting how they introduced a wire that a mobile suit can launch at another mobile suit, connecting the two and enabling spying, or a private conversation. I guess encrypted wireless communication aren't really a thing in this universe.

I liked Iron Mask/Carozzo being portrayed not as an awe inspiring and powerful like Darth Vader or your usual Char clone, but instead as a pathetic man (who just so happens to wear a mask).

Another problem is that - like all UC Gundam stories post ZZ - it's bleak. The Federation evidently never changes. They continue being dicks to people, which incites uprisings, which are suppressed... and then the Feddies continue being dicks. Apparently this story takes place 30 years after CCA. It feels like there is no hope in this timeline, at least not until the fall of the Federation.
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This would be my favourite UC gundam if it was a full 50 episodes series :peepocry:
I like Cecilia and her dynamic with Seabook, unlike the romance in most gundam series. She's cool, strong, and lovable, unlike most of those stupid shrills in the main timeline.
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Confusing ... forgettable .... silly ..... and that is all that my poor brain can think to describe one of the worst movies seen lately.

Confusing: I have not seen nor read about any of the Gundam anime. It took an hour just to figure out about 30 seconds of information. This turkey of a movie spends no time to lay out a bare bones backdrop. Instead you just sit back and go WTF for an hour.

Forgettable: Not going to remember this one. Nope. Drinking heavily may be needed to cure the eyestrain but I Will forget this thing!

Silly: Where to start? A flower taped to a space vehicle that survives a battle holocaust? A cow and a dog blown out of a space colony breach? Cutting your hair as some display of ???? This monstrosity had the silliest battles and dialog of anything in recent memory.

5/10 just because the cow and dog flying through the breach in the colony dome made me laugh out loud.
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Like Victory Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam F91 should have never been made in the first place.

The Mobile Suit Gundam F91 movie ended where it actually should have begun.
What is amazing about it though is like how awesome this movie looks,especially great in UHD. Visually it is one of the prettiest Gundam movies, great details and great animations. The story isn't bad and the characters are likeable. The main problem is the lack of time this movie had to tell it's story in detail.

Everyone who stopped F91 to be adapted into full anime should feel ashamed, shame on you!

A wonder that the Gundam franchise survived after so much crap happened during the 90s
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Damn, the first half was boring. Last 45 minutes were pretty cool though and the ending scene is one of the best things Tomino ever wrote (if it was him).
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This movie was clearly uninspired. All this nice looking animation was wasted on a lackluster story that's just a whole lot of nostalgia repackaging plus ripping off Star Wars. There was no new thought in it and the dialogues were dreadfully boring and most of the time didn't matter, making it feel even more wasteful.

The film made me feel nothing, it couldn't get me invested in the characters. There was no tension despite the conflict. There was some potential with Cecily's story but it just wasn't realized. It doesn't surprise me that the series weren't continued. It just lacked passion.

4/10 from me.
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Way better than I was expecting to be honest. Heard for years this was basically a 50 ep series squashed into one film, and given the way Tomino writes things, well he benefits from having a long series to stretch his legs.

Opening was brutal and easily the best part of the film, really shows why fighting inside a colony is pretty much considered a war crime in this setting.

Space Monarchists is an interesting enough change from the usual space nazi's of earlier series.

It did admittedly get a bit jumpy around the middle part when Seabook started randomly appearig places with the Gundam, think there was a defection that just pretty much occurred without us being told, but given the circumstances I can forgive it.

Still interesting enough start to the late uc era.
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it's not terrible but it's not good, it's confusing, messy, rushed and difficult to understand for all the wrong reasons. wasted potential for a potentially good story 4/10

''Touch the darkness inside me''

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The first 30 minutes were pretty great, seeing how horrible it was to the common person getting caught up in a fight. After that I couldn't follow this at all. Halfway through I paused to check to see if this was in actuality a recap movie of a series I somehow missed, because there was a hell a lot that was not making sense. Not even just in terms of story, but in execution it's a complete mess. You have Seabook and his dad escaping in a car and then it shows them in space. Just... ??? How did they get there? It felt like transition scenes were just missing in multiple places. And that woman's defection, I had to go back because you see her suiting up with the Crossbones at 1:06:16 and at 1:12:42 you cut back to the Fed ship and they're discussing her defection. WHEN??

Cecilia seemed like the definition of an airhead. Just a total mindless blank slate who goes along with whatever people tell her. And that baby, Kochon, what was even the point? He should've been cut from an early draft. He contributes nothing, nothing important happens as a result of him, he's just... there. Like so many of these kids. It just adds more to the confusion and feeling of incoherentness. Same could be said of Cecilia's mother. She appears in just one scene, the step-father drops dead for some reason, then you never see the mother again, and iirc, Cecilia never mentions her either. Someone needed to proofread this script and trim out all the unnecessary parts to streamline it in the hope of salvaging what they could. It feels like an early rough draft.

The only praise I can give it is some scenes looked nice, the first half hour was really well animated and powerful seeing the tragedy of people's lives getting destroyed. It was surprisingly graphic and serious for a Gundam show, at least of the ones I've seen, but holy hell after that mark it crashes and burns.
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