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Oct 11, 2023 2:05 PM
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Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?
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Oct 11, 2023 2:18 PM
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Modern world is largely obsessed with technology making such a story seem outdated. Anime are often made for merchandizing either the source material or merch. The modern artstyle for anime are generally more like blobs than legit faces like in death note. Moral standards do exist for anime nerfing dark mc personalities like Naofumi.
Oct 11, 2023 2:21 PM
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i dunno probally not popular or something but classroom of elite really good anime lol
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Oct 11, 2023 2:27 PM
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I watch almost everything every season so to me it looks like you're just terrible at finding shows
Oct 11, 2023 2:30 PM
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Maybe try out class room of the elite
Oct 11, 2023 2:33 PM
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rohan121 said:
Modern world is largely obsessed with technology making such a story seem outdated. Anime are often made for merchandizing either the source material or merch. The modern artstyle for anime are generally more like blobs than legit faces like in death note. Moral standards do exist for anime nerfing dark mc personalities like Naofumi.

Everything that you said it's just like a set of the most common stereotypes, nothing more
Oct 11, 2023 2:34 PM
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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

Bro, just watch Moriarty the Patriot or 91 Days if you want something similar like Death Note fr
Oct 11, 2023 2:35 PM
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I will say this Japan right now does not like dark stories as much. Cause My Hero was supposed to get darker and the rating dropped whenever it did. I believe that the slice of life and isekai genre is to partly blame for not getting darker stories time
Oct 11, 2023 2:38 PM
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mad house is my fav studio bc of that, i would like to see more anime like that nowadays too
Oct 11, 2023 2:45 PM
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I will say this Japan right now does not like dark stories as much. Cause My Hero was supposed to get darker and the rating dropped whenever it did. I believe that the slice of life and isekai genre is to partly blame for not getting darker stories time

If you mean My Home Hero:
Actually, I think atleast one of the biggest reasons for it's low rating is that the anime adaption is just very mediocre.
Oct 11, 2023 2:48 PM
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Loaf_dontcare said:
Sagepool said:
I will say this Japan right now does not like dark stories as much. Cause My Hero was supposed to get darker and the rating dropped whenever it did. I believe that the slice of life and isekai genre is to partly blame for not getting darker stories time

If you mean My Home Hero:
Actually, I think atleast one of the biggest reasons for it's low rating is that the anime adaption is just very mediocre.

Maybe my hero academia is just mediocre
Oct 11, 2023 2:49 PM
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Loaf_dontcare said:
Sagepool said:
I will say this Japan right now does not like dark stories as much. Cause My Hero was supposed to get darker and the rating dropped whenever it did. I believe that the slice of life and isekai genre is to partly blame for not getting darker stories time

If you mean My Home Hero:
Actually, I think atleast one of the biggest reasons for it's low rating is that the anime adaption is just very mediocre.

No I mean My Hero Academia, there are articles talking about how the author wanted to make the story focused on villains but couldn’t cause of low ratings from Japan when doing it
Oct 11, 2023 2:50 PM
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Madhouse did Sonny Boy a couple years ago. I highly recommend that if you haven’t watched it. They are also doing Frieren right now, but it’s definitely not in the same genre you’re looking for. Though it’s great so far.
Oct 11, 2023 2:55 PM

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Huh? Go to the mal anime search, filter by season and year, and review every season from 2006 to today, and try saying the same thing again with a straight face. I don't see you complain about the heaps of shounen and ecchi trash that used to fill each season in the old days.

Then filter by genre and tell me death note is the last mystery anime ever made.
Oct 11, 2023 2:56 PM

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gamibo said:
Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes.


They absolutely never were "alive" to begin with...
Psychological and Mysteries are somewhat niche genres.

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Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.


They were specially aiming for not so popular/niche/outdated works (or simply Original projects) , to experience with them in Animation.

That was until they stopped doing that to focus on very popular stories to adapt to get money.
That's what led Maruyama to leave the studio and create Mappa , to continue experiencing with such stories.
But the same thing happened in Mappa , and thus he left to create M2.

So i'd suggest you to follow what that guy is doing , you'll probably like it. (They will release Pluto in a few days.)
Aside from that... just use the search engine.
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Oct 11, 2023 3:25 PM
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get out of the mainstream side of anime then. There is plenty out there for you that are waiting to be discovered
Oct 11, 2023 3:55 PM
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DN definitely mid mid
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Oct 11, 2023 4:28 PM
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Generic anime watchers doesnt like that kind of genre
Oct 11, 2023 4:42 PM
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No psychological and mystery anime anymore??
Pluto and Akuma-kun both come out within a month. Ron Kamonohashi and Migi & Dali are both airing this season. Undead Girl Murder Farce from last season also seemed like that type of show. Or check out Oddtaxi from 2021, which in my opinion is one of the best mystery anime ever made.
If recent anime aren’t doing it for you, there are tons of shows from past decades that will scratch this itch for you. I certainly sympathize with being disillusioned by some modern mainstream anime but the other genres aren’t gone. There are just more anime being made as a whole.
Oct 11, 2023 4:58 PM

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pretty sure you're just not looking. Literally madhouse themselves released some good stuff like AI no Idenshi and Sonny Boy. And if you look at other studios you can find stuff like Odd Taxi, Summertime Rendering, Promised neverland (which never got a second season.), Link Click, ID:invaded etc. and all of those are relatively recent and only a tiny selection of stuff in the mystery category being released. Just because you only look at Isekai and shounen shows doesn't mean the others suddenly stop existing. Every year dozens if not hundreds of good shows that aren't shounen or Isekai are released you just need to actually look for them
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I mostly agree but 91 Days is exactly what you want. Also if you’re looking for content, you could read manga. Fruitsumore kodoku is what you’re looking for and everything written by the author is as well.
Oct 11, 2023 5:05 PM
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you need to watch heavenly delusion and summertime render
Oct 11, 2023 5:13 PM

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It would be difficult to produce at this stage. Nowadays, simple and easy-to-understand stories such as "different worlds" tend to be preferred, and sponsors are probably reluctant to pay for a story that is difficult to understand because they are not sure if it will sell even if it is produced.

Also, in the case of genres such as psychological themes and mysteries, if the original story is based on a novel or manga, it may be produced as a live-action drama or a live-action movie rather than an anime adaptation.



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You should watch heavenly delusion, came out this year and fits well with what you’ve been looking for
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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

i think u should watch link click... although its not Japanese but u will enjoy the thrill and cliff hanger..
Oct 11, 2023 7:20 PM
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I dont know if youre taste just shit to define what a good mystery anime is or youre just too shy to ask recommended mystery anime.

But as a fan of mystery anime myself that in love with the genre since my friend introduce me with Haruhi Suzumiya, heres my mystery anime from last 7 years :

In/spectre (More lighthearted, more comedy)
Heavenly delusion (Way way way better than DeathNote so far)
Shadows house (Decent adaptation)
Sonny boy (Watch it twice, still confuse AF)
Odd taxi (The artstyle might throw you off)
Rascal not dream of bunny girl senpai (More drama-ish)
Boggiepop and others (Prefer the first one, more darker)
Land of lustrous (Is just good)
18if (Last 2 episodes are shit, but its good before that)

I like DeathNote, but its on the edgy side of mystery genre for me.
Just like Another or Erased.
Oct 11, 2023 7:43 PM
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Practically speaking, those kinds of anime have always been the minority, with the ones you listed being essentially exceptions rather than the rule. Generally speaking, though, a lot of it comes down to the simple fact that these kinds of psychological and/or mystery-driven series are simply really difficult to write, and the uniqueness of their premises also makes them high-risk investments for producers compared to more standard & mainstream genre fare.

Additionally, I will say that, of all the shows you’ve fit under the banner of mystery, there’s very little actual commonality between them, which makes me question whether this is as common a trend as you might think. Death Note is a mystery only in as much as the in-universe characters are deciphering a mystery while the audience is practically omniscient and the show’s actual appeal is the psychological battles rather than the thrill of piecing together a puzzle like you’d normally qualify a mystery show to be. Same goes for Death Parade, which is really more of an episodic philosophical parable with some mystery elements than an actual mystery show imo

Comparatively speaking, Attack on Titan is a mystery anime for all intents and purposes (with the way so many elements seeded throughout the show are pieced together by both the cast and audience alike to discover the truth being the driving force for most of the series) and it’s arguably the most popular anime of the last decade, not to mention that one of the most hyped upcoming anime is Pluto, a mystery series. So saying mystery is dead in the context of its existence almost feels laughable.

Also gonna have to call you out regarding the Madhouse thing. Anime production is a complex process, and most people in the community seem to just not understand that studios rarely have to do with the actual story of the series they animate. The idea that most studios are heavily involved with shows outside of animation work, to the point of having any trying to assign any kind of signature style to studios regarding genre or the like, is one of the more eye-roll inducing misconceptions the community can’t seem to help but perpetuate
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why mal users dont make good threads anymore
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You just simply missed the good ones. There have been pretty good mystery shows in the last 6 years too.
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why mal users dont make good threads anymore

I think even the bait threads were much more interesting
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Animaticide said:
I watch almost everything every season so to me it looks like you're just terrible at finding shows

This lol, tons of interesting shows come out every season and I find myself watching more than I should be rationally trying to keep up with
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Attack on Titan (kinda)
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how are you saying this after only having watched 33 shows…

also if you cant find anime that fit your description you should start reading manga. there are plenty of mystery manga that never got an anime adaptation
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The mystery/thriller genre has certainly declined in prevalence since the mid 2000s, but to compare Death Note, one of the era’s most popular and acclaimed titles, to “generic isekai” is straightforwardly survivorship bias.

Please go scroll through old seasonal charts and see how many forgettable anime came out at the time.
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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

there are many great mystery shows still coming out but they are not popular, if you want to watch then try these 2

1. heavenly delusion ( came out this year)
2. summer time render ( came out previous year)
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Cause Death Note was terrible.
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I dont know if youre taste just shit to define what a good mystery anime is or youre just too shy to ask recommended mystery anime.

But as a fan of mystery anime myself that in love with the genre since my friend introduce me with Haruhi Suzumiya, heres my mystery anime from last 7 years :

In/spectre (More lighthearted, more comedy)
Heavenly delusion (Way way way better than DeathNote so far)
Shadows house (Decent adaptation)
Sonny boy (Watch it twice, still confuse AF)
Odd taxi (The artstyle might throw you off)
Rascal not dream of bunny girl senpai (More drama-ish)
Boggiepop and others (Prefer the first one, more darker)
Land of lustrous (Is just good)
18if (Last 2 episodes are shit, but its good before that)

I like DeathNote, but its on the edgy side of mystery genre for me.
Just like Another or Erased.
@ilusatus Death note is not mystery, and none of them is actually is better or even come close to death note when it comes to suspense.
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Unless we have a not-for-profit Anime studio backed by some billionaire brat who wanna do justice to mystery plots, your request seems difficult.
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Maybe because theres nothing like death note herec, death note is just too original and classic show.
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Because that's pretty unpopular and most mangakas and studios want to make stories that will sell well
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i dunno probally not popular or something but classroom of elite really good anime lol

Yeah I like it a lot, even it’s second season

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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

We are literally getting the entirety of Pluto adapted in a couple of weeks
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If we had more shows like Death Note, then people would likely get tired of them eventually and make complaints about them being copies just as they do with isekais and battle shounens. I enjoyed Death Note a lot as a kid. But considering how people these days complain over the smallest similarities between shows, I think it's for the best that no shows try to replicate the things that made the series popular for many people.
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youve seen 33 shows, for some reason including only season 2 and season 5 or higurashi? I have to assume you aren't the best at finding shows.
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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

I wish MADHOUSE remained strong. It was LEGENDARY and the stuff they put out was always ahead of its time. Beautiful stories coupled with art that defined everything to come. I guess the animators also have to take into consideration, the current social scenario before animating anything. Tough job to do today where people get offended or upset at the drop of a hat.
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japanese people reduced their mind to ecchi and stuff i guess
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gamibo said:
Death note one of my first anime other than usual shonens like dbz,naruto. Death note blew my mind and I realized that animes can also have mature, psychological themes.Fastforward to 2023 and now anime industry is majorly filled with crappy generic fantasy Isekai animes.Psychological,mystery genres are practically dead in animes. These isekai shows are giving flashbacks of considering anime as cartoons meant for kids. One thing I noticed is that one studio which new generation may not even know,called Madhouse was particularly interested in making Mystery animes.DN, Monster,Parasyte,Death Parade,Kaiji to name a few. With the downfall of Madhouse, mystery genre also disappeared in last 6 years. Recent good mysteries like Classroom of elite and Tomodachi Games got mediocre adaptation and production. Can we expect strong comeback of Mystery genre or its the end of road?

You’re missing out of numerous masterpieces and great shows. You just havn’t watched them yet.
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Animaticide said:
I watch almost everything every season so to me it looks like you're just terrible at finding shows

Hes not terrible. Hes just relatively new. With time he’ill see the other amazing shows that he hasn’t gotten to yet.
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