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May 22, 2020 10:46 PM

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alshu said:
Wow, a measuring contest for fanboys.
What deep and valuable information we have here.

By the way being impressed by Kimetsu no Yaiba Episode 19 for me is a sign of anime newbie or person who have watched mainly drama or other projects with less complicated to animate scenes.


We've got ourselves an elite over here everyone.
May 22, 2020 10:59 PM

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MakingTheMaouCry said:
KyouKaiTen said:


That's a bad thing, right?
There is not much plot twist or remarkable moments in FMAB

How is that a bad thing? In fact it shows that you don't need too many plot twists or some overhype moments unlike some anime (*cough* demon slayer *cough*) to show a good story. And it is still an anime that most people will say is the objectively best anime out there. Also the ratings speak for themselves.


FMAB is surely a very well written show, true. However, it also has an ending along with being in a monolithic single season format. It also has very decent and consistent art and animation. Many advantages that other anime don't get. It's like the complete package. You get closure, plot threads are tied up, etc.
That what makes people give it a high score imho.

That being said, I gave it an 8/10 which is great entertainment in my book. But could've given it a 9 (which is when I have great emotional feedback too) if it had some remarkable moments, such as a plot twist like Attack on Titan's Basement Reveal, or some incredible character growth moment like Tsukishima's in Haikyuu!.
May 22, 2020 11:04 PM

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EdgeoftheLords said:
Okay, who let the shonentards put Demon Slayer in number 3? It's like Ishuzoku Reviewers again, where there was an absurd amount of demon slayer/MHA loving shonentards who skewed the vote? If they can rule the vote, why can't Ishuzoku have their own rule too? The heck MAL?


My gosh. Aren't you a little hipster?
May 22, 2020 11:05 PM

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Some of these episodes were to be expected to have a higher rating. Might need to start voting more on these polls.
May 22, 2020 11:08 PM

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I don't really care about any of that but I just had to praise your effort on such a thing.
May 23, 2020 5:49 AM

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Alpha_Druid said:

We've got ourselves an elite over here everyone.

You call elite everybody with opinion ?
Kind of easy to achieve since everyone is a unique snowflake.

If I am elite than the requirements have dropped really low lately.
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Alpha_Druid said:
MakingTheMaouCry said:

How is that a bad thing? In fact it shows that you don't need too many plot twists or some overhype moments unlike some anime (*cough* demon slayer *cough*) to show a good story. And it is still an anime that most people will say is the objectively best anime out there. Also the ratings speak for themselves.


FMAB is surely a very well written show, true. However, it also has an ending along with being in a monolithic single season format. It also has very decent and consistent art and animation. Many advantages that other anime don't get. It's like the complete package. You get closure, plot threads are tied up, etc.
That what makes people give it a high score imho.

You forgot about the godly humour of FMAB and its first 15 episodes are a work of art.
Second half of FMAB is 10/10. First half is 6-7.

Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth.
Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime.
May 24, 2020 7:45 PM
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First weekly udpate.
I published the list the monday, but originally I had planned to upload it the sunday, just that it took some extra time to verify it and I finished delaying it; in spite of that, the updates will be the sundays.
May 24, 2020 8:02 PM

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Wow 7/24 episodes of Steins;Gate made this list, that's almost a third of the entire show. Also 2 episodes of Steins;Gate 0 made it as well. Goes to show how great the series is.
May 24, 2020 8:13 PM

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alshu said:

By the way being impressed by Kimetsu no Yaiba Episode 19 for me is a sign of anime newbie or person who have watched mainly drama or other projects with less complicated to animate scenes.


I thought it was a sign of liking other things and having a different taste and opinion but apparently that doesn't exist.
May 25, 2020 2:55 AM

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BigBlueBash said:

I thought it was a sign of liking other things and having a different taste

Seeing it as different and somehow revolutionary is the weirdest part for me...and said scene was done by veteran animators by the way...

PS
Also this scene is a bit reminiscent to certain fight in the beginning of Inuyasha.
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May 25, 2020 3:04 AM
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Not many surprises it's basically how I would expect it to look like.
May 25, 2020 3:16 AM

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I'm surprised Clannad AS episode 18 is the highest..?? I always read people talking about how ridiculous the time travel/time rewind(?) In AS is, but i guess this is not that episode then...? XD


I'm starting to get embarrassed by my own forum signature line.. XD
May 25, 2020 3:32 AM
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Wow, so many Steins;Gate episodes. I do understand, it is the second highest rated show in MAL after all.

Haven't watched Clannad, might check why that episode is the highest.
May 25, 2020 4:56 AM

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Awesome list. It's great moment like this why people love anime.I drop Mob Psycho season 1,maybe I should give it another chance?
Papa_ScorchMay 25, 2020 5:02 AM
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Added Kaguya S2 Episode 7.

Obligatory 30 characters rule.
May 25, 2020 8:24 AM
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owh f eps 18, 19, 24 clannad make me remember again on old memories, now im feeling sad right now :(

May 28, 2020 10:39 PM
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Voting Line Cut updated to 800 votes.
Well, first line cut update and things begin to look diferent, from here on everything becomes wilder; to be honest, I'm not completely sure all episode >90% with +800 votes are here, but if there's some left, it should be one or two (I hope, xD).
Also, something I didn't mention, when updating the voting line cut, as there are various titles entering the list at the same time, the whole list is updated with it, to maintain accurance.
So, how do you think the list looks now with the updated line cut?
May 29, 2020 6:29 AM
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Almost forgot to say it, but I want to thanks @Damuzen, who has been a great help in the making of the list by proportionating me a lot of data. Also, I didn't say it in the first post, and I didn't find a right place to mention it till now, but a great help for the list was this list made by @HaXXspetten, which made it far easier to publish this list at first.
May 29, 2020 6:39 AM

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You're welcome !


Shimoneta randomly joining the list is hilarious
May 31, 2020 10:27 PM
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Weekly update #2.
Practically it's monday, so I got it late, but here it is anyway.
Jun 7, 2020 6:07 PM
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Weekly update #3.

Obligatory 30 characters rule.
Jun 7, 2020 9:35 PM
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A bit late as the update has already been done, but important nonetheless:
JoJo episode 20 added.
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Where is psycho pass episode 11.....
It has to be the best episode in Anime history.....
Do you guys remember makishimas philosophy at the end...
Jun 7, 2020 9:48 PM

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Ari4 said:
I never knew episodes have ratings??


Same here. This is news to me, haha. :)
Jun 7, 2020 9:55 PM

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Fucking Shimoneta, of all shows, made it haha. I think that was the episode when Anna became thirsty as hell. I expect pretty much the rest of S2 of Kaguya-sama to be on here considering how amazing everyone says the upcoming arc will be.
Jun 9, 2020 2:58 PM
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Added Kill la Kill Episode 22.

Jun 14, 2020 7:59 PM
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Weekly Update #4.

At this point I'm a bit worried about this becoming a spam thread full of messages of mine, but meh, I'll continue anyway.
xD
Jun 15, 2020 2:36 PM
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Added Kaguya S2 Episode 10.



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Jun 15, 2020 3:00 PM

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You're calculating % of 5s in voting, not the actual rating of the episode.

Example:- Clannad: After Story: Episode 18's rating is 98.30%, not 96.70%.

Kill ka Kill's Episode 22 rating is 96.81, not 90.00%.
Jun 15, 2020 3:44 PM
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Kenny_Stryker said:
You're calculating % of 5s in voting, not the actual rating of the episode.

Example:- Clannad: After Story: Episode 18's rating is 98.30%, not 96.70%.

Kill ka Kill's Episode 22 rating is 96.81, not 90.00%.


I hope I got your point right to not make all this response useless.
xD


Yeah, that's actually a thing that keeps bugging me, I've seen a lot of cases in which there's clearly a manipulation on score, so if I made the calculation of the ratings, some of those episodes who get to be above 90 would be taken down, because it's no longer about one type of data, but five, and it makes it far more complex and, knowing how things are here, unfair; it's a bit alike when you're receiving your notes at college, there's that warning everyone knows (at least here): a 1 lessens, but a 0 divides. Also, it would be a bit harder to stablish a cut point, as it's in a 1 to 5 scale, that cut point should be numeric, so it becomes more vague to determine at which point a episode can be knwon as "widely acclaimed" and/or "very well rated", one point I could think of is at 4.90, but I don't know if that's really a good number for the list.
Moreover, in all honesty, it's much more easier and, I think, accurate, to use a system already stablished, as the percentages of the episode discussions, than taking the data and translate it to a different system, like the numeric one.
Jun 15, 2020 4:38 PM

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mafd12 said:
Weekly Update #4.

At this point I'm a bit worried about this becoming a spam thread full of messages of mine, but meh, I'll continue anyway.
xD


Keep going dude, I have your thread in my watched topics and I think it's really interesting.
Jun 15, 2020 8:41 PM
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BiDiGiN said:
mafd12 said:
Weekly Update #4.

At this point I'm a bit worried about this becoming a spam thread full of messages of mine, but meh, I'll continue anyway.
xD


Keep going dude, I have your thread in my watched topics and I think it's really interesting.


Thank you, mate. I'm glad you find this interesting.
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Thanks buddy for this information. I appreciate it.
"When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice."
Jun 18, 2020 8:13 PM
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Added Clannad: After Story Episode 19.
Jun 18, 2020 8:35 PM

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I'll say I'm not really surprised Mob Psycho 100 II has five entries here. I don't know if it's the season with most entries on the top, but with how good it was, it makes sense.
Jun 18, 2020 9:54 PM
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@Mr_No
Actually, as of now, the title with most episodes here is Steins;Gate with 7 (really impresive), followed by HxH (2011) and Mob II with 5 each one (if you wonder, the next ones are SnK S3 Part 2 and Kaguya-sama S2, with 4 each one). Well, that's for now, if I can say something it's get prepared, things will change quite a lot.
Jun 20, 2020 10:26 AM
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Added FMA:B Episode 54.

Obligatory 30 characters rule.
Jun 21, 2020 3:19 AM
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Yesterday's Kaguya episode should be on here as well I reckon:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1847577

Jun 21, 2020 7:06 AM
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Very interesting topic. I'm watching this.
Jun 21, 2020 7:13 AM

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Really interesting topic, and glad to see Vinland Saga ep 24 and many Kaguya-sama episodes up there as well.

HaXXspetten said:
Yesterday's Kaguya episode should be on here as well I reckon:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1847577



THIS.
Jun 21, 2020 7:17 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
Yesterday's Kaguya episode should be on here as well I reckon:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1847577

Maybe OP's waiting for the score to settle down. I mean, there's a lot of new votes coming in so it could go even higher. Maybe we should give it a week or so
Jun 21, 2020 8:23 AM
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MistaAsh said:
HaXXspetten said:
Yesterday's Kaguya episode should be on here as well I reckon:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1847577

Maybe OP's waiting for the score to settle down. I mean, there's a lot of new votes coming in so it could go even higher. Maybe we should give it a week or so
Yeah if you want any accuracy then it's too early. In MSP we record every seasonal's score 2 days after they air, but if you're looking at individual episode ratings I reckon you'll need weeks before being able to say anything conclusive due to the much smaller sample size of votes which makes the results less reliable in the beginning. Should probably wait for the anime to finish airing at least so all the people that are waiting for that before watching it get to have their say too
Jun 21, 2020 8:51 AM

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Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai?: Tensai-tachi no Renai Zunousen episode 11 can now be added there.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1847577
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Weekly Update #5.
Voting Line Cut updated to 600 votes.
Added Kaguya S2 episode 11.
Deleted Kaguya S2 episode 10 and BNHA S4 episode 25.

Well, because of how long it was, and some personal issues, I couldn't update it till this late, but here it is.
Yeah, as I told you, things begin to become wilder. 32 new episodes (aside from Kaguya S2 11, which was a new one) with the cut line update, it definitely looks more interesting, though a bit overwhelming tbh. From here this will be a pain to update. n':
@HaXXspetten, @Iskandar87, @MistaAsh and @Gorochu, about Kaguya S2 episode 11: as I stated before, for a episode recently released (mostly from seasonal shows), there's two options for them to join the list, they joining in the next weekly update after its release, or any day later when it meets the requirements, another things about these is that I'm giving them one day for it's score to stabilize; curiously, all three were achieved by that episode today, so it enters the list onto this weekly update.
Last but not least, two episodes got out of the list this week, Kaguya S2 10 and BNHA S4 25; this is the first time that happens, and since I started the list, I was wondering how common this would be, the most obvious answer to it would come from the seasonals, as the hype dissapears, the scores tend to become less biased and it comes down pretty much all the cases, Kaguya's one is a good example; BNHA's one is kind of a example of the same phenomenon, but just much more later, more dragged.
Hopefully, or naively, this won't be a source of downvoting, it has been just unfair thus far.
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Hopefully the hype of kaguya-sama will die soon. If it wasn't painful enough to see that shit in the top 22, now it will have one of the highest rated episodes, great!
Jun 21, 2020 11:27 PM

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alshu said:
Wow, a measuring contest for fanboys.
What deep and valuable information we have here.


It IS interesting to see but your edgy ass won't care.
Jun 21, 2020 11:40 PM

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BigBlueBash said:
alshu said:
Wow, a measuring contest for fanboys.
What deep and valuable information we have here.


It IS interesting to see but your edgy ass won't care.

Did my unremarkable "It's unremarkable topic." remark pushed you over the edge or something?
Why are you even commenting it?
Jun 21, 2020 11:40 PM

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Alpha_Druid said:
That demon slayer ep 19 just slapping with more than 7K votes.


It's the colouring in that scene.

Might be a stupidly easy prediction, but I think Kaguya's S3 finale will have the same kind of impact.

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I'm surprised Clannad AS episode 18 is the highest..?? I always read people talking about how ridiculous the time travel/time rewind(?) In AS is, but i guess this is not that episode then...? XD


That's the last one, episode 18 is the peak of Tomoya's redemption as a father. It completely turns the series from sour to diabetes in a few minutes.
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Well, there's something that has been bothering me, let me show you:

Clannad After Story Episode 18: 96.86% -> 96.43%
Haikyuu!! Second Season Episode 24: 96.62% -> 95.71%
Haikyuu!! Karasuno Koukou vs. Shiratorizawa Gakuen Koukou Episode 4: 96.49% -> 95.43%
Gintama° Episode 40: 96.83% -> 95.69%
Gintama Movie 2: Kanketsu-hen - Yorozuya yo Eien Nare: 91.70% -> 91.43%
Aria The Origination Episode 13: 95.75% - 95.31%
Steins;Gate Episode 14: 90.57% -> 90.34%
Steins;Gate Episode 22: 93.21% -> 92.93%
Steins;Gate 0 Episode 7: 92.07% - 91.80%
Steins;Gate 0 Episode 21: 92.47% - 92.15%
Vinland Saga Episode 21: 90.63% -> 90.16%
Vinland Saga Episode 22: 91.41% -> 91.08%
Vinland Saga Episode 24: 90.84% -> 90.23%
(And these are just the most visible ones)

Agh.
This is a clear case of massive downvoting, and let's be honest: all of this is happening because some idiot thought it was a good idea to show a list full of titles with great scores in a site widely known for score manipulation, and obviously the trolls/haters didn't miss the oportunity; in all honesty, I was aware that this could happen, even to the scale we're seeing, but I was expecting that maybe even with all of the usual scandals in MAL related to score, this list could get rid from it, but that isn't the case, so I decided to stop temporarily. From here on, I'm in middle of three options:
1. To close the list permanently, preventing any kind of downvoting.
2. To move the list to some more secure place where it can be safer from the views of the downvoters.
3. To continue the same way we did thus far, despite of the downvoting.
With this list I wanted to show you something I found really interesting, and share it with everyone, especially with those who could get to appreciate it, I wanted to show you some of those gems that might deserve some more recognition, to give them a spotlight, for little it was, to shine in middle of this giant ocean, but it became a source of massive score manipulation instead, which destroys the mere purpose of this list. And yeah, I know that true men of culture don't care about things such as ratings in MAL, but there's people who either care or find this interesting, so this is still a big problem; and I don't wanna let the downvoters take this list as a tool for them to continue doing that anymore. So I ask you for your opinion on the topic, what should be the path to follow from here on to stop these incidents? And this time I need some real answers, I know that all the stuff related with list is exclusively responsibility of mine, but I think this time the decision needs to be more consensual.

And if you're wondering why the list is disabled, I know that a post about downvoting is obviously kind of a incitement for this to continue happening, though the episodes here listed still can be a subject of this so till a decision is taken, the list will stay this way; I did the same with the posterior comment because that episode is still being downvoted, even after all the harm already done. I may be naive, but I ain't stupid.
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