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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The goat Zodiac :o For a kid, he behaves exactly like a kid. I also do find his character interactions with Kisa to be adorable and no doubt he has deeper feelings for her. Seems Tohru is also taking a liking to him like most of the other characters she has met. |
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| At first, the way Hiro was acting was so annoying. At least now he seems to respect Tohru. Akito is a mysterious character. Can't believe he actually beat up Kisa. I wonder why. |
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| I’m an anime-only and Hiro has DEFINITELY taken the spot for my least favorite character. Holy shit, even the middle school boys I know have some semblance of respect for other people. |
| I do sympathize with his situation with Risa, but man is Hiro a little s***head. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| Yikes, what's with Akito seriously? Did she really beat up Kisa just to make Hiro feel guilty or somehow try to stop any romantic developments? I don't think there's saving Akito any longer - no matter how tragic her life may be/have been, she's clearly taken things to the next level, she feels like the biggest curse of the Family at the moment. I wouldn't be least bit surprised now if she starts to take her anger and frustrations out of Tohru now, as Shigure suspects. Speaking of Shigure, some more interesting details and hints there regarding his relationship with Akito. Anyway, Hiro is such a bratty kid with how he tries to act so smart and gets jealous like that. But, at the same time, him acknowledging that he's still just a kid goes to show how courageous he is indeed as Tohru pointed out and I only hope he keeps that up and eventually prevails. So adorable how the prince and princess bit was added though! Lol, what was with that anime at the start though. Yuki's monologue there pretty much nailed my impression too. Lol moment of the episode for me this episode goes to the re-introduction of that editor and the precise timing of that though, god these Shigure moments are just fab! Anyway, looks like the rumours of Tohru is spreading and this is another win lol, I wonder what's next now! Next episode title suggest Hanajima and I really hope it is because she's been on the sidelines for too long now! |
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni  |
| I enjoyed this episode. Hiro is a little jerk, but I love him. His and Kisa’s relationship is one of my favorites, they very much act like 11 & 12 year olds when it comes to feelings. I’m looking forward to more interactions between them. alicerubesty said: I’m an anime-only and Hiro has DEFINITELY taken the spot for my least favorite character. Holy shit, even the middle school boys I know have some semblance of respect for other people. I definitely know 6th graders at my work that act just like Hiro. Not all, but a couple for sure. |
| How did the police not get involved after Akito beat a small child badly enough to put her in the hospital for 2 weeks. 1) Her parents seem to care for her, so I can't imagine they would protect Akito, family head or not 2) I am sure Japan has child protection laws, and the doctors at the hospital would have been calling protective services or the police. I still wanted Kyo to at least give Hiro a smack |
| I really don't understand Zodiac's relationship with Akito - I know she's but why are they so tolerant of her? Why do they discuss so calmly her beating up a child? Why don't they blame her for anything? |
NaerysAug 16, 2019 1:34 PM
Naerys said: I really don't understand Zodiac's relationship with Akito - I know she's but why are they so tolerant of her? Why do they discuss so calmly her beating up a child? Why don't they blame her for anything? The part I put in the spoiler tag is still a major spoiler for people who are anime only’s. |
| I wish they added the scene of the random adults saying they want to punch Hiro because of how arrogant he is from the manga. That scene was hilarious, but oh well. |
"In the End, Only Kindness Matters" -Jewel |
| I like how the episode got me at first hating Hiro to actually feeling kinda bad for him. I think I'll enjoy his character more down the stretch, having known the reason as to why he's like this. |
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| Hiro and kagura, the shittiest characters in Fruits basket. |
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is shit |
| It was cool to see a different kind of Soma this episode; one that's mature, moody & sensible rather than the usually childish, immature and boisterous Somas'. I'm so intrigued to know what is going on with Akito... he seems cruel and hateful but i have a feeling there's something beneath the surface so i'm trying not to judge him to harshly. I have to say though, beating Kisa just because Hiro said he loves her is making it hard not to dislike him... |
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Kisa1208 said: I definitely know 6th graders at my work that act just like Hiro. Not all, but a couple for sure. Yeah, when they said how old Hiro was, I was immediately thinking “okay that’s how old some of the boys I babysit are. Do they act like that? Did boys act like that when I was that age?”. But I guess it’s some combination of trauma, bad parenting that seems very common in Fruits Basket, and pent up anger being taken out on just Tohru (rather than spread out evenly to every person in his life). On the other hand, I watch the Funimation dub and i’ve noticed that lines seem very different between the translations for other episodes so maybe there’s some difference in what Hiro said there. |
alicerubesty said: Kisa1208 said: I definitely know 6th graders at my work that act just like Hiro. Not all, but a couple for sure. Yeah, when they said how old Hiro was, I was immediately thinking “okay that’s how old some of the boys I babysit are. Do they act like that? Did boys act like that when I was that age?”. But I guess it’s some combination of trauma, bad parenting that seems very common in Fruits Basket, and pent up anger being taken out on just Tohru (rather than spread out evenly to every person in his life). On the other hand, I watch the Funimation dub and i’ve noticed that lines seem very different between the translations for other episodes so maybe there’s some difference in what Hiro said there. Oh yeah Hiro is totally a little jerk, I don’t deny that, but I think it is very much in line with his age, & trauma he’s dealing with about Akito hurting Kisa. And he’s not like that with everyone, mostly Tohru out of jealousy & Kyo because he’s a little hot headed & I think Hiro kinda has fun messing with him. & yeah with the dub, I watch it too. I actually watch it first and then try to watch the sub later. |
| And that spoiler there huh? XD Glad I'm a manga veteran |
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Kisa1208 said: Naerys said: I really don't understand Zodiac's relationship with Akito - I know she's but why are they so tolerant of her? Why do they discuss so calmly her beating up a child? Why don't they blame her for anything? The part I put in the spoiler tag is still a major spoiler for people who are anime only’s. Ok, fixed it. Though it's under Akito page in MAL in quotation marks in her name, anyone who's clicked on it knows. |
Naerys said: Kisa1208 said: The part I put in the spoiler tag is still a major spoiler for people who are anime only’s. Ok, fixed it. Though it's under Akito page in MAL in quotation marks in her name, anyone who's clicked on it knows. I didn’t know that. Haha. Well thanks for changing it anyways. |
| So in this episode (ch 37-38) we meet the sheep zodiac, who is both cute and annoying at the same time. More Kisa is always welcome, she's a cutie-pie. <3 And Akito being an asshole as always. Both this anime and the old one were pretty similar to the manga (with tiny differences), so I have nothing to complain about. Again no smoking from Shigure at Hatori's, lol. And Hatori's voice is always so annoying, although I love his character. :'( So next episode is about Hanajima. Last 2 zodiacs will probably be in 2nd season, since they aren't in the 2nd opening and ending of 1st season. We are approaching the heavier stuff and we'll get to know a bit more about the Souma curse, can't wait to see how they will end this season. |
| Waiting for Gundam SEED Movie..... (ಥ‿ಥ) Waiting for Sailor Moon Cosmos..... o(≧▽≦)o |
Rytakahashi09 said: That sheep boi is a complete arsehole. He needs to be taught, in a hard way. Kyo should've beat him up. Couldn't agree more. Couldn't muster sympathy for him, even at the end. Treating Tohru like that has no justification at all. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Tooru is me watching anime. xD Hiro was so insufferable at first though, acting all high and mighty towards Tooru. Babbling on and on, without letting her speak and treating her as a servant. And yes, he is "just a kid", but he certainly could be more polite and fair. I can't believe he just took her pocketbook, which had the photo of her mother, like that after forcefully taking her bag. Kisa is so adorable though, I melted seeing her trying her best to speak, I'm glad she is hanging in there now that she feels and knows that she isn't alone. I can't believe what Akito did to her after Hiro told him that he loved her though. She is also a member of the zodiac, and just a little kid, but he still beat her so hard that it took her two weeks to fully heal. I can't believe they have to put up with this kind of abuse, this is so wrong that I can't even. I guess he really wants to be the only object of affection when it comes to the zodiac members, it's sick. But I'm sure he has his "reasons." At least Shigure's "he will be the one who is sorry in the end" gives me a bit of hope. |
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| It's wrong to hit kids, but damn I would have so wanted to punch Hiro in the face just like Kyo... what an annoying brat. What's with Akito abusing/hurting loved ones of the Zodiac members? Like first the Girlfriend of Hatori and now Kisa :/ Since I am an Anime-only viewer, I can only dread for what's to come.. As long as Akito won't abuse Tohru. Kisa seems to be doing a lot better, that makes me happy.. |
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| I couldn't help but laugh at Yuki's criticism at the Mogeta anime, calling it a problem in and of itself. Those words of his could be used for quite a lot of bad shows that have aired this year already. XD Anway, this episode introduces Hiro, who is part of the sheep zodiac and, not surprisingly, he comes off as an arrogant little bastard to Tohru, constantly nitpicking anything that she did that annoyed him. Honestly, I don't blame Kyo for wanting to clump Hiro a few times. However, Hiro wasn't like this before. Asking going up to Akito and declaring his love for Kisa, Akito became so angry that he beat up Kisa to the point that she was hospitalised for two weeks. There's no denying how vile Aktio can be at times... =/ Thanks to that, Hiro could only blame himself for what happened to Kisa and did his best to avoid her, which only made her assume that she did something that made him angry at her. Thanks to Tohru, her words and optimistic attitude was able to mend the bridges between Hiro and Kisa. Seeing Hiro smiling at Kisa at the end of the episode made me smile, too. =) All in all, this episode did a great job in adapting Hiro's introduction and backstory. We still need to protect Kisa's adorable smile, though. =3 |
| This episode covered Chapters 37 and 38 of the manga in its focus on Hiro. Like last week's episode, this one went through quite a fair number of changes in changing the order of specific scenes and even outright removing some stuff, as well as altering settings for some key events. Looks like next week's episode is a Hanajima-focused one, which may be the one where more of her home life is explored. Anyway, here are the differences I spotted with this latest episode: -The Mogeta cartoon scene seen at the start of the episode was extended slightly for the anime. -Kyo and Tohru had different clothing designs for their scene in the anime. Tohru had a regular shirt on instead of the buttoned-up one in the anime and Yuki has a different Chinese-style shirt he wears in the manga. -A small bit of the scene with Shigure coming in to see Yuki and the girls watching the Mogeta anime was removed for the anime in which Shigure asked what they were watching on TV. -Instead of sipping on his drink, Yuki was shown to be smiling with everyone else in the manga in response to Tohru hugging Kisa. -The scene showing Hiro inquiring about where Kisa is from his aunt was originally the first scene in the manga instead of appearing after the scene at Shigure’s house. -The anime removed a couple scenes leading up to Tohru’s first encounter with Hiro. This includes…
-Tohru’s dumbstruck reaction of Hiro teasing her after picking up his boot was added for the anime. -Tohru’s panic over Hiro stealing her handbook with her mother’s photo was slightly longer in the manga as she contemplated contacting the main Sohma house to track Hiro down. -Instead of being outside, Hiro, Tohru and Kyo were inside a martial arts dojo. Some of the dialogue in the scene was changed for the anime to reflect the setting difference. -The Mogeta show that Hiro made mention of was originally on a VHS tape in the manga instead of a DVD. In addition, some parts of his venting expressing his jealousy toward Tohru and his feelings toward Kisa were removed for the anime. -While Hiro was venting at Kisa, Momiji was shown resting his head on Tohru’s shoulder in the manga instead of witnessing the argument unfolding. -The internal thoughts of Hiro and Tohru expressed during Hiro’s venting were removed for the anime. -While the anime still showed Hiro questioning things with the Mogeta anime and accusing Tohru of being inconsiderate toward him with serving snacks, the dialogue is nearly totally different between the anime and manga. -Tohru’s narration explaining about Hiro at the start of Chapter 38 was removed for the anime. -Kyo was shown to be wearing a different type of shirt design in the manga. -While Shigure was holding onto Kyo’s head when stopping him from going after Hiro, there were visible veins of anger appearing from Kyo’s face. -When Yuki commented on letting Mitsuru in the house, Tohru originally expressed shock in the manga in reaction to hearing Mitsuru was attempting to hang herself. -The brief scene of Shigure tricking Mitsuru into thinking he was getting back to working on his writing was added for the anime. -The flashback showing Hiro ignoring Kisa on their way to school was added for the anime. -Tohru’s internal thoughts about Hiro’s situation were removed for the anime. -When Hiro asked Tohru to take him and Kisa somewhere to play, this was originally done the following day after school in the manga instead of while still at Shigure’s house. Due to the changed setting, this results in a scene being removed that showed some walkers coming by and remarking on Hiro being smart-mouthed before the boy retorts back at them in retaliation and the two being irritated, wanting to beat Hiro up as a result. -Shigure and Hatori’s discussion on Hiro’s situation originally took place before Hiro and Kisa met with Tohru the following day in the manga. In addition in the manga, Shigure was shown smoking during this scene and some of the dialogue where the two dabbled over about being members of the cursed zodiac seeking love got removed for the anime. -While getting crepes from the vendor, there’s a removed bit showing Hiro telling Tohru she can pay for her share, while he covers for himself and Kisa. -When Tohru was describing Hiro’s love for Kisa being like that of a prince, the manga originally only depicted Kisa dressed as a princess. The anime added in Hiro as a prince extending his hand to Kisa. |
| Hiro is still a little piece if shit, but man Akito is a fucking psychopath. If this series ended with him getting skinned alive at this point I wouldn't even mind. I swear this better not end with Tohru using her power of endearing dumbass to somehow get through to his black heart. Still like 50 episodes to go till then anyway probably. |
| This was the first episode of the series I actually hated, and I rate most episodes a 4 or 5. I can't stand asshole kids, Akito be damned. Still love me some Kyo though. |
| As a German native I feel attacked by Momiji saying "Das ist keine Art" I know what they wanted to tell with that but It makes no sense at all. Nobody would ever say it like that. |
| Holy damn crap, I wanted to slap this Hiro so muuuuch this episode... fortunately, he managed to confess himself so it reduces my anger toward him. But shit, being around 11 and acting like that, you can't move forward in life and you'll end up being sader than anyone. |
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| My God was Hiro a handful, but he acts just like a kid. Couple that with some lovely Soma family trauma and you've got yourself a little jerk of a kid. He's adorable though, especially with Kisa. I loved the little Princess and Prince scene between them, so cute! I really couldn't stand hearing Hatori and Shigure casually talking about Kisa being beaten so badly by Akito she had to stay in a hospital for 2 weeks. The fact that abuse is spoken about so lightly in the family like it's a common occurrence is devastatingly sad, especially considering many of the zodiacs particularly suffered that trauma when they were children. It's just goddamn sad. Shigure was right, the family can never love or cherish anyone properly with the restrictions and limitations they live under. I can't believe she was most likely beaten to either hurt Hiro or prove a point to him, ensuring that he should never step out of his lines as a zodiac. I'm looking forward to how this show adapts the corruption and absolutely awful workings of the Soma family, anime-onlys are gonna be shook at all the things that family has done to people. I still get upset thinking about it. This was a very sweet episode though, can't wait for Kyo's time to shine!  |
~ These boys must be protected at all costs ~  |
| At first I was annoyed at the Goat kid at first, it reminded me to a certain episode of Violet Evergaden which I hated a lot. Thankfully Fruits Basket shows us again its masterful direction and storytelling and manages to redeem Hiro on the same episode it was introduced. Damn, Akito is really fucked up, to beat Kisa like that, my poor poor girl ;_; Go on Hiro, you can do it, you gotta protect Kisa's smile from that evil Akito. But you gotta do something with that attitude of yours. It really puts me off That said, this episode was 3/5 to me. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
HOOfan_1 said: How did the police not get involved after Akito beat a small child badly enough to put her in the hospital for 2 weeks. 1) Her parents seem to care for her, so I can't imagine they would protect Akito, family head or not 2) I am sure Japan has child protection laws, and the doctors at the hospital would have been calling protective services or the police. I still wanted Kyo to at least give Hiro a smack It's not a good idea, its a loss battle to ever consider call the police for this, specially knowing what Akito is capable of doing and the fact that the Soma family is able to rewrite memories. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Kid was a bit of an annoyance but it felt like it was done with a purpose and didn't overtsay its welcome too much before he started to chill out. I will say this episode was ruined a bit for me till after it was done out of own stupidity, i legit thought they introduced hiro as kisa's brother so I was really confused when everyone started implying he was in love with her at first and it took me a few minutes to realize my mistake. I think it was cause he asked the mom where kisa was and I just sort of assumed they lived in the same house or something That stupidity aside, holy shit akito fucked that kid up. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| At first I was annoyed by Hiro But at the end of the episo-oh wait....nope, still annoying as hell. Besides that, a good episode. I'm still annoyed by Kisa's voice however |
| MY SON!! HE’S HERE!!!! 💕💕 I love this little shit so much I’ve desperately been waiting for his appearance💕💕 I’m excited to see the drama play out again and for Hiro to get his character development ☺️ |
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| god was this episode ever excruciatingly painful to watch. hiro is such an annoying brat and tohru just lets him walk all over her. speech at the end did nothing for me either. |
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HereticHunter said: HOOfan_1 said: How did the police not get involved after Akito beat a small child badly enough to put her in the hospital for 2 weeks. 1) Her parents seem to care for her, so I can't imagine they would protect Akito, family head or not 2) I am sure Japan has child protection laws, and the doctors at the hospital would have been calling protective services or the police. I still wanted Kyo to at least give Hiro a smack It's not a good idea, its a loss battle to ever consider call the police for this, specially knowing what Akito is capable of doing and the fact that the Soma family is able to rewrite memories. Hatori can erase memories and I am not sure Hatori's fealty to Akito runs that deep. Besides, Akito is a sickly frail person. I assume there are outsiders who married into the Soma family who would not be obligated to take Akito's crap |
HOOfan_1 said: HereticHunter said: It's not a good idea, its a loss battle to ever consider call the police for this, specially knowing what Akito is capable of doing and the fact that the Soma family is able to rewrite memories. Hatori can erase memories and I am not sure Hatori's fealty to Akito runs that deep. Besides, Akito is a sickly frail person. I assume there are outsiders who married into the Soma family who would not be obligated to take Akito's crap Maybe, maybe not, but I'm pretty sure Akito wouldn't fall that easy over cops, that, and even if the police manages to catch him, nothing prevents him for escaping disguising himself as an animal (or doing something worse), so its still not a good idea whatsoever. I'm sure most of the Soma Family knows this and even if they try to get him arrested I don't think they'd get anything positive from it. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Good episode again. I gotta admit, I was super annoyed with the way Hiro acted towards Tohru in the beginning. I almost couldn't stand his bratty and cheeky attitude towards her, which is pretty rare for me. I guess I just couldn't understand how he was able to act so rude to someone as nice and loving as Tohru. After a little more exposition I kinda was able to like him a little bit more but I still think he's a little overly rude but at least I know that he's a good kid that just doesn't know how to help the person he wants to help the most. I have no idea why Akito acts the way he does, when will we see more of him? I'm genuinely curious as to why he lashes out the way he does. Is it even possible to redeem him at this point? |
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| First reaction about Hiro is Hate. I dislike brats who act bossy towards someone for whatever reason they might have. It doesn't give him the right to bully Tohru just because he feels jealous. Know your place, kid! So Akito strikes again... Savage! Felt bad for Kisa :( Ok episode. |
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| Why the hell do so many people here think that Akito is a girl? His appearance may look rather feminine but... like didnt you hear his voice (va)?! And he's classified as male here on mal too Seeing Shigures 'dark' side again definitely gets me thrilled lol I wanna see a coup d'état with him as the leader lmao I can't stand cheeky brat characters in anime/manga so I dislike Hiro of course.. His character softens quite a bit at the end tho so if he'd stay that way that would be perfect. That most likely won't happen tho |
 “I don’t like expending more effort than I have to.” – Ayanokouji Kiyotaka |
| Not going to lie the kid Hiro was so bratty. Though I think I can understand where he is coming from because of what was shown. But still it is not an excuse to do all that. And it is not cool. Anyways, one thing for sure. I am going to say it here and now. I swear if Akito lays a finger or harms Tohru in any way. I freaking hope Yuki or Kyo step up to kick his can in the dirt. Like seriously... what is with him? Is he just jealous or is he afraid of something that he will get lonely? Or is he just wanting the family to himself to the point where they should not leave him? Seriously though, Kyo or Yuki better fight Akito should he even lay a finger on Tohru... if not... I am going to flip... |
alphazero4umAug 16, 2019 9:49 PM
HereticHunter said: Maybe, maybe not, but I'm pretty sure Akito wouldn't fall that easy over cops, that, and even if the police manages to catch him, nothing prevents him for escaping disguising himself as an animal (or doing something worse), so its still not a good idea whatsoever. Akito doesn't turn into an animal. What bad thing do you think Akito can do to the police? Akito is frail and sickly. The only reason the Zodiacs put up with Akito is the curse makes them. K1ngOfSloth said: Why the hell do so many people here think that Akito is a girl? His appearance may look rather feminine but... like didnt you hear his voice (va)?! Umm...Akito's VA is a woman.... |
| I wanted Kyou to beat that damn goat-kid. Akito really is someone despicable. Shigure likes to play with us, sometimes looks naively but then you see it how I believe he really is, I mean I cannot longer think of him as a nice and friendly guy if he can get along with Akito. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| I don't care what Akito is. He beat a little girl up so badly she was in the hospital for 2 week. Can someone just blow his brains out? |
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