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| Episode Review: Guilty Crown Episode 15 Spoilers avast! I'm writing this episode review on the assumption that you've actually watched the episode and you're ready for the ensuing discussion. As the new OP suggests, Guilty Crown is finally starting on the winding path to redemption. While the episode was fantastic, there are a few things I want to mention… Hare's death was well done. It reminded me of Brief list of other goodies: + Character development and internal conflict (the void ranking system and its subsequent reception by students, along with Shu uncomfortably questioning his role as a leader) + Daryl's starting to become less of a psychotic murderous freak. I don't understand how killing your father and his illegitimate lover and finding out that you're adopted and unloved turns you into a more empathetic person, but sure, I'll play along + A bit of action! Explosions, endlaves, and Inori's voidsword made a brief appearance in this episode + Of course, the new mid-season OP theme (The Everlasting Guilty Crown is probably one of my favourite opening songs to date) and ED theme are fantastic On to the things that ground my gears… Why the hell does Guilty Crown have to blatantly imply a "rape" scenario every episode? We've frequently seen Ayase getting harassed, but at least it was in-context and the pseudo-motivations of the assailants were somewhat defined and justified. In this episode, we hear Inori yelling "NO!" as she's thrown to the ground with her hands bound and her void is forcibly removed. Completely unnecessary and detrimental to the seriousness of the unfolding events, I thought it would have been much more powerful to have Shu silently and swiftly ripping the void out of Inori as she called his name. It would've displayed the same level of apathy, defined Shu's upcoming character development, and left a much better impression while accomplishing the same goal and not looking overly ridiculous about it. Oh, and Souta is still an awful supporting character. You can convince me otherwise, but he just comes off as annoying. I'm sure this will play out as Shu's foil in the upcoming episodes, but I was ecstatic when I saw his face getting pulped by Shu's grievance (and fists). Brief list of other negatives: - Not all conversations between the cast's female characters have to be in a bath tub. Apparently, the producers think otherwise. I can understand a bit of fanservice (thank goodness it's toning down), but having ludicrous scenarios for dialogue is a real turnoff when you're trying to deliver a serious message/plot Overall, the episode was very enjoyable, and I'm glad to see the show picking up. Now what's left is to see whether it drops the building momentum. Final episode verdict: 4.75/5 (rounds up to a 5, don't worry. The major thing is that the show's finding redemption) Gallery: "New Shu!" "Awkward Inori Pseudo-Rape Scene" Thanks for taking time to read this! I'll be doing a mini-review for each subsequent episode, so stay tuned and, if you'd be so kindly, leave some feedback on my profile's wall! |
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| I was wondering when they'll start working on Shu's character change already and *boom*, one episode and done. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Shu's development at the end was too much, why did they have to rush it when he was this belieavable with going all emo after Hare died? It would just take screentime but he should have had a least half an episode before becoming all Gai wannabe badass. Anyway, good thing Hare died, Inroi is too important to the plot and he doesn't care about anyone else enough to do a 180 character change just after seeing them dying. |
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| did anyone watch the preview for next ep? shu voice is changed its really deep now , the tyrant is going for action next week |
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| Wow as this show progress the tone keeps getting darker and keeps draawing me in further. Im actually glad Shu is going to be more of a dictator now because all that niceness of his wasnt doing it for me. And those F list members really are completely useless, and i think it wouldve been better if they all died in Hare's place |
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Faded_Illusion said: Wow as this show progress the tone keeps getting darker and keeps draawing me in further. Im actually glad Shu is going to be more of a dictator now because all that niceness of his wasnt doing it for me. And those F list members really are completely useless, and i think it wouldve been better if they all died in Hare's place You're going to need a can opener someday, maybe not a medic but a can opener and you'll be sorry the can opener died rofl |
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| Too me Shu is developing into an asshole, not a badass. There is a difference. The scene where he rips out Inori's void was god damn retarded. I get the point about. "I'm the king, I'll do as i please". The problem is 1) Inori always lets Shu use her void anyways so her actions seemed contrived. 2) "Inori, I need you" would most likely been a lot easier than throwing her to the ground and forcing her. 3) Badasses don't treat their friends/women like that, assholes do. I get he's extremely upset and shit. But seriously, it's like the 3rd or 4th time now where he's "broke". The routine is getting rather old. I wasn't moved as much by Hare's death. Even though I liked Hare's character very much, I guess I've just grown too used to anime series killing off the "good girls" that it didn't resonate with me. I was expecting Hare to die actually. I get the feeling by the end most of them are going to die. Also, i swear Guilty Crown has an underlying tone of Japanese arrogance with an anti-foreigner message. Lt. Dan seemed to be a retarded version of a gung-ho American who's moronic. Shouta questioning the merits of the hierarchy system, a Japanese style system, is portrayed as a vain selfish person and that the hierarchy system is how things should be and silly people like Shouta who even question such things are "trash" who get people killed. I won't even go into the outside EVIL force of European types who try and rule japan tyrannically. Seems like every 5-6th military conflict type series has that silly trope these days, including Code Geass. |
CirrisFeb 2, 2012 6:11 PM
| i was expecting Hare to die soon but not in this very same episode.. really, these confessions and motivations to rush the plot and character development decrease the chance of characters surviving.. but while the entire cause and effect of Hare's death may be the result of generic writing, i find the direction of the scene of her actual death and sacrifice to be touching and sincere of emotion, unlike most of the previous similar scenes where they should've been been dramatic but the emotions of the characters felt forced.. it's just too bad that the entire fiasco is nothing surprising and felt natural if you look at the show in a larger perspective.. meanwhile, the rest of the episode seem to be well done but overall only because they're needed.. plus points for Shu snapping and voidraping Inori before doing his usual.. kukuku.. here's to hoping that another paradigm shift to their story would benefit it.. coz while i find this to overall average, i seem to be enjoying most of what's happening quite recently.. |
argiliumFeb 2, 2012 5:29 PM
| "I was wrong. Kindness is pointless. We have to separate the good from the trash. I'm going to become king." - Ouma Shu. (Guilty Crown is becoming a ***king epic dystopia!) I feel sorry for Hare. I can't believe they killed my favorite character! It is very hard to take for being a fan of her. Now I hate that freaking Souta. (But I guess Hare's death is needed for character development of Shu. Still, I can't believe it.) Shu finally made Inori his b****. Now that's what you call manning up! You better keep that face until the last, 22nd episode, Shu. Get revenge for Hare! |
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| i think the director is trying to make us believe that Shu was pussy and then BANG!!, badass Shu emerge.... |
| Oh yeah thats what I'm talkin about !!! Shu !!! |
| Sad that Hare died. She's the most sweetest and nicest girl. And the only healer in the party. Stupid Souta! Making Hare repair a car in the open is just retarded And why the hell some people telling Gundam AGE spoilers here!? Thanks to them, I got spoiled Dammit! |
| Waiting for that Shu's black righthand with light blue neonstrip on the OP. |
| ive been calling her death since episode 9 but i was still pretty shocked to see her go like that, also oh god, shu is going to become like kira and lelocuh isnt he, i got a feeling hes goign to become pretty evil liek they did and your just going to want him to die in the end i mean i already think shu will die no matter what but still |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Oh wow, I bet no one say that coming from miles away! But I actually kinda liked Hare. Why must I enjoy childhood friends? Oh, and because the heroine is not compelling at all. Still pretty saddened about it, though. :[ Ahaha, Soda and his can opener. I wonder what rank Mr. Refrigerator is. And yes guys, create a ranking system based solely on a random device you found lying in the streets. Uh-huh, don't categorize people according to what their Voids actually do. And there's only one healer? I'd think that there'd be at least one other person . . . I wonder how many times Daryl's Endlave will be sliced in half before he dies. Of course he'll die sacrificing himself for Tsugumi, though. Let's not think about how they'd need a key to operate the car if they actually managed to fix it. -- . . . And everything else. The Inori Void rape thing had me cringing because it seemed so unnecessary. Snapped!Shu was predictable, but at least interesting to watch (yeah you punch that Soda). Get that badass coat on, man. Despite everything, I was entertained lol. Lurking various threads is amusing as well. edit: Oh god, if Gai is magically still alive. . . /facepalm. The him shouldn't be him. Please. Prove me wrong, show. This once. |
MeepyFeb 2, 2012 6:27 PM
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| I seen this coming...I hate myself for being right about it. The Tyrant awakens... |
| Dammit, this is just like Code Geass when they And when the ex-Funeral Parlor guy (Shibungi) was playing chess with Segai, when he asked that if he won the game, then he would be allowed to see "him"...does that mean Gai? I should hope so, since he was turned into dust along with Mana, and him being alive means possibility of a Hare rise from the dead....though I might be too hopeful. |
| Why is that I keep re-watching the last scene where Shu beats the crap out of Souta. >_> |
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| This should have happened in episode 9. But So THAT'S WHY Inori is so high up in the rankings, her sword can throw out beam slices! If the Pilots aren't inside the machines, what's the point of using a human, and letting them feel pain, anyways? Changes in Shu is always good! |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Hare!!!! Why did you have to die!!!! I was expecting this from ages ago but COME ON, you are the sweetest heroine in the series and was FAR better than Inori. Inori fighting Shu for no reason in the dire situation, can she read the atmosphere? |
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Meepy said: Let's not think about how they'd need a key to operate the car if they actually managed to fix it. Ok, they managed to do some dumb mistakes in the series but this isn't one of them. Souta's void can do this just fine. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: ive been calling her death since episode 9 but i was still pretty shocked to see her go like that, also oh god, shu is going to become like kira and lelocuh isnt he, i got a feeling hes goign to become pretty evil liek they did and your just going to want him to die in the end i mean i already think shu will die no matter what but still Lelouch was never evil. Also, Shu is probably going to do something crazy shit, that I agree |
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ReiSagara said: Okay, so I'll probably get a lot of hate for saying this but Shu did NOT turn "badass". Gai was badass. Shu just turned into a crazy, broken jerk. I'll also get a LOT of hate for saying this but I honestly didn't find Hare's death "shocking" or "sad" (In my opinion, Gai's was much more sad.). I saw that coming a mile away and honestly, I never really liked Hare anyway. *dodges gunshots* I'm sorry! I just never really cared for her type of character. Yes, she was nice and sweet but for some reason, characters like that tick me off because they feel one-dimentional and non-realistic. Granted this is a work of fiction but even so, characters like that are over-used... I felt bad for Inori because of what Shu was doing to her. Yes, Shu. I know you've snapped and are in crazy-mode right now, but that's no reason to forcibly take out Inori's void and scare the heck out of her. So basically, Shu's gonna be an ass for the next episode or two (maybe longer) but I'm glad it looks like he grew up a little and figured out being a wimp isn't going to help when you're the leader. Still, doesn't look like he's going to be Gai #2... (a badass leader who's still kind to his subordinates) And that ended all my complaints. ^^; Now I hope there'll be a tragic Daryl x Tsugumi moment later for a good tear-jerker. But if that doesn't happen, I just hope there's at least some moments with them. :) Although I still don't forgive that asshole for what he did in episode 2, I like how Tsugumi handles him. She's probably one of my favorite characters in this anime next to Gai and Ayase. Wait... How was Gai badass exactly? Shu had reasons to act the way he is but Gai was just a straightforward jerkass |
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RyuKirin said: You love to see the rage..like I do. :PWhy is that I keep re-watching the last scene where Shu beats the crap out of Souta. >_> |
destructo22 said: RyuKirin said: You love to see the rage..like I do. :PWhy is that I keep re-watching the last scene where Shu beats the crap out of Souta. >_> We guys have been absorbed by Shu's rage epicness. I watched it like the Nth time already. |
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shadelol said: Meepy said: Let's not think about how they'd need a key to operate the car if they actually managed to fix it. Ok, they managed to do some dumb mistakes in the series but this isn't one of them. Souta's void can do this just fine. It opens things. Does that mean it's a key that can start a car? . . . Unless it was explicitly stated it's some sort of universal key and I just completely forgot lol. I try to turn off my brain a bit when watching so I don't see glaring plot holes as much. But then I miss things. . . . I suppose it's really a lose-lose situation. |
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Meepy said: shadelol said: Meepy said: Let's not think about how they'd need a key to operate the car if they actually managed to fix it. Ok, they managed to do some dumb mistakes in the series but this isn't one of them. Souta's void can do this just fine. It opens things. Does that mean it's a key that can start a car? . . . Unless it was explicitly stated it's some sort of universal key and I just completely forgot lol. I try to turn off my brain a bit when watching so I don't see glaring plot holes as much. But then I miss things. . . . I suppose it's really a lose-lose situation. IF that's true, then why was he in the lowest ranks? Probably because it's not used by Shu |
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| It's a good episode. But completely copied. Copied from Code Geass (Shirley's death vs Hare's death followed by that cry by Lelouch and Shu respectively). Of course... Shirley's death is also a copy of Legend of the Galactic Hero's Kircheis' death. But that's a different story... I WILL MISS YOU, HARE! |
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GodlyKyon said: i was refering to kira about the evil, lelouch just became a sociopath, light became a phycopath, either way both of them were pretty despicable by the end of the series, its just kira you wanted to see die painfully, lelouch you didnt want him to succeed, didnt really want him to die but wouldnt be to heartbroken if he didDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: ive been calling her death since episode 9 but i was still pretty shocked to see her go like that, also oh god, shu is going to become like kira and lelocuh isnt he, i got a feeling hes goign to become pretty evil liek they did and your just going to want him to die in the end i mean i already think shu will die no matter what but still Lelouch was never evil. Also, Shu is probably going to do something crazy shit, that I agree |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Chasekun said: those deaths are way to different,It's a good episode. But completely copied. Copied from Code Geass (Shirley's death vs Hare's death followed by that cry by Lelouch and Shu respectively). Of course... Shirley's death is also a copy of Legend of the Galactic Hero's Kircheis' death. But that's a different story... I WILL MISS YOU, HARE! i mean the biggest difference was that shirly was alive when lelouch got to her and she died with him, here hare was already dead and gone when shu came back to his senses. but to top that hare died saving shu's life instead of saving herself, shirley was just murdered, and the final bit is that no one close to shu killed her(physically but souta is the reaosn shes dead) while in code geass lelocuh knew rolo killed shirly immediatly afterwords and pretty much set out to kill him from then on out(despite R2's horrible writing makign lelouch take a quick 180 turn in personality 5 minute before rolo's death) the character tropes are the same but the scene is completely different |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Chasekun said: It's a good episode. But completely copied. Copied from Code Geass (Shirley's death vs Hare's death followed by that cry by Lelouch and Shu respectively). Of course... Shirley's death is also a copy of Legend of the Galactic Hero's Kircheis' death. But that's a different story... I WILL MISS YOU, HARE! You point does not stand, it is NOT a copy, this kind of character has been around for ages. She is what could be called a plot device... But a sweet one. They allow transitions between the main character DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: i was refering to kira about the evil, lelouch just became a sociopath, light became a phycopath, either way both of them were pretty despicable by the end of the series, its just kira you wanted to see die painfully, lelouch you didnt want him to succeed, didnt really want him to die but wouldnt be to heartbroken if he didDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: ive been calling her death since episode 9 but i was still pretty shocked to see her go like that, also oh god, shu is going to become like kira and lelocuh isnt he, i got a feeling hes goign to become pretty evil liek they did and your just going to want him to die in the end i mean i already think shu will die no matter what but still Lelouch was never evil. Also, Shu is probably going to do something crazy shit, that I agree I was nearly crying when Lelouch died... Kira i did not care for, but Lelouch... yeah, the next time I nearly cried was in Clannad After Story |
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sky2day said: Best ep of the series so far, imo. Hare's death was sad, but I think the scene was really well done. (Also, there's finally significant character development with Shu.) Best ep of the second half imo 4kicks said: Dammit, this is just like Code Geass when they Oh yeah huh ? lol |
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| Shu's gone psycho. I cried when Hare died. She was so innocent. |
MakiseKurisu said: we just love to see rage modes it's in our blood!.destructo22 said: RyuKirin said: You love to see the rage..like I do. :PWhy is that I keep re-watching the last scene where Shu beats the crap out of Souta. >_> We guys have been absorbed by Shu's rage epicness. I watched it like the Nth time already. |
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| Shirley was right. She fell in love with Lelouch in another life (except he is infinitely cooler than this faggot). *claps* Yay another annoying useless character died. Inori/Shu next, please. *Shu becomes king, dies to save the world, Inori living on on top of hay in the last episode* thanks for telling me Yumekichi what'll happen in this episode, since I have yet to see, can't wait to see how this happens :D |
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| Ok fine, I admit. That episode was good. Probably the only good episode in the whole series so far. Shu is finally manning up. Old pussy Shu is gone. XD I might consider liking this anime if it keeps getting better. |
| LoL I got way too attached to Hare. Now I feel a dark hole in my heart. Best episode of the series.. Now lets see where they take it.. |
GodlyKyon said: Meepy said: It opens things. Does that mean it's a key that can start a car? . . . Unless it was explicitly stated it's some sort of universal key and I just completely forgot lol. I try to turn off my brain a bit when watching so I don't see glaring plot holes as much. But then I miss things. . . . I suppose it's really a lose-lose situation. IF that's true, then why was he in the lowest ranks? Probably because it's not used by Shu They don't know exactly what the levels on the scanner even mean. Usefulness in offense? It could even relate to how much they believe in the strength of their own Voids or their confidence or something like that. >__> Souta can only use his to open cans. It's already proven that Shu doesn't massive power-up the Voids only when he's using them, as Hare was able to use her bandages perfectly fine. You'd think they'd stop and wonder about the scanner when Souta's level was so low, though, considering the fact that it had proven to be useful. Relying on something conveniently found on the ground is very smart, people. |
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| Yahiro must have some weird driving skills to maneuver that car like that when avoiding those missiles. I mean, the movements were so slick. It was painful to look at >_> And damn, I liked and dislike this episode. Hare's confession was a really good one, plus Shu got to be sandwiched in them boobs. On the other hand, why did they kill her??!! Dammit. While all of this is necessary for the plot and is completely predictable, it was played off quite better than the previous scenarios they did. Bumping up my score. Thought it doesn't really make this show that much better. |
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| I liked Hare, and I liked Shu the way he was before this happened. I really can't believe the series took a turn like this, and I am really interested to how it is going to play out in the end. I hope next episode explains and shows a lot to us. |
| Damn. THAT is how you make a great episode. The show actually got emotion out of me in the scene of Hare's death, that was quality right there. Buuuut I can see where this is going already...Shu's comeback to reality will most likely be connected back to Hare's death and her parting words which described Shu's kindness...and I think Yahiro maybe heard her last words and might be the one tasked to say "Is this what Hare would of wanted?"...Which I say, would be VERY unoriginal. I increased the score for the show after this episode...but if it follows down the predictable path, then that score is going right back down. Episode: 5/5 Hare >>>>>>>>>>>> Inori |
drendren said: THEY HAD TO KILL THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE SHOW TO MAKE THIS PUSSY MC STEP UP TO THE PLATE. I'M FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHOW. It worked with gurren lagann lol But there were better characters than her anyways. |
WyattEarpFeb 2, 2012 10:03 PM
| Those bastards killed off Hare just like they killed off Shirley in CG. |
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