| This is my first time posting in the forums, I read the rules so I hope I don't violate anything by asking this. Which did you guys and girls prefer? Subbed or dubbed? I usually go subbed with anime's but with Clannad I went dubbed, and I heard the dub for this anime was really good. Thoughts? |
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| Subbed |
| sub. always sub. |
| Are you sure? Were the english voice actors really not good enough? |
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| How dare thee mention dub and sub in the same context. You're trying to spark some war aren't you? dub sucks |
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YurixSSS said: Are you sure? Were the english voice actors really not good enough? Are they ever? #shotsfired |
| Definitely sub for Kanon |
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| sub master race UGGGGUUU |
YurixSSS said: Are you sure? Were the english voice actors really not good enough? No , they all sound like gorillas and make the girls sound like men. |
antonn said: YurixSSS said: Are you sure? Were the english voice actors really not good enough? Are they ever? #shotsfired Lol okay you win. I'll go for the sub, thanks guys! Oh and no I wasn't trying to start a war at all lol, I'm just a bit of a newbie. |
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| I personally like to have both the Japanese and English audio tracks playing at the same time, accompanied by German subs. |
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| Subbed. Japanese dub got Tomokazu Sugita. |
| Subbed but dont get me wrong, the dub is pretty decent for Kanon 2006. Proudly own the dual audio DVD's for it =P It's certainly better than Clannad's one. |
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| this topic isn't against the rules (that i know off) but... sub vs. dub topics are done in great numbers ;) dunno if it gets aproved though seeing it's about kanon/clannad :D |
| I haven't seen it yet but I recommend to watch it subbed. I'm a dub lover don't get me wrong. But it's a moe show. Moe shows are meant to be watched in Japo since english voice actors can't get the "moe voice". |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| Always go Sub unless it has a good dub team. Like Black Lagoon, CBB, LAst Exile, and a couple others. Most Dub teams are shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. |
| Go with whichever one Funimation streams for free, legally. |
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| i remmember the dub being perfectly acceptable but the sub does have sugita |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
mitch3315 said: you're an intersting person, and your sig is addicting.I personally like to have both the Japanese and English audio tracks playing at the same time, accompanied by German subs. i only watched it dubbed. don't remember it being horrendesly bad. |
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| eng dub is for dumbos. i don't even need japanese dub. I don't need sound. that's for filthy casuals |
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| please dont listen to anyone who says "subs for life" or "sub master race" or anything like that because those are just dub haters who will always say that any dub is shit without even seeing it |
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JD2411 said: mattbenz99 said: People can have opinionsplease dont listen to anyone who says "subs for life" or "sub master race" or anything like that because those are just dub haters who will always say that any dub is shit without even seeing it Not if they differ from my own. |
JD2411 said: not if they havent seen the dub before.mattbenz99 said: People can have opinionsplease dont listen to anyone who says "subs for life" or "sub master race" or anything like that because those are just dub haters who will always say that any dub is shit without even seeing it |
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| Watch the Dub,in Subs the joks aren't nearly as funny...same goes for clannad<_< As long as your not an elitist...you will enjoy it -.- |
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| the sub is so much more kawaii dear lovely #uguu! |
| Despite everyone who said Sub, I think I'm going to try the dub. The very few who did say to watch the dub seemed to enjoy the show, and I'm not even sure how many of you actually watched it subbed. Sorry guys lol, I think I'll enjoy it though. |
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BlackteZz said: that i disagree with, i think the clannad dub is downright terrible and doesnt do either the comedy nor the drama correctly, the only good from it was whoever voice tomoya did a really good job. Kanon did a good job on its comedy and especially its dramaWatch the Dub,in Subs the joks aren't nearly as funny...same goes for clannad<_< As long as your not an elitist...you will enjoy it -.- which kind of makes me wonder since almost all the people from the kanon dub were in the clannad dub except for chris patton so i question how one wasnt that good |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I watched it dubbed and the dub is pretty good try the dub first, if you don't like it then switch to sub |
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| Most of the "subs4ever" "+1" "this" quote-chainers are people who have that knee-jerk reaction to dubs in general without actually watching very many of them, much less the actual dub in question. I've seen both (because watching one doesn't magically prevent you from ever rewatching the other), and they're both good. As long as you don't hate dubs in general, you probably won't hate Kanon's dub. JizzyHitler said: Simple -- the Kanon dub was done in 2008 in the ADV era, and the Clannad dub was done in 2010 in the Sentai era. What difference does two years make? At that point in 2008, ADV was in a deal with the Japanese investment group Sojitz and some other companies, which gave ADV cash infusions to use for licensing and dubbing anime. Kanon's dub also had more time available for retakes and rewrites, as it was released in 4-episode single DVDs instead of the complete collection format of Clannad's dub. But things started to go sour between ADV and Sojitz during 2008 as North American sales took a nosedive, and when Sojitz cut things off, ADV had to break itself up and reorganize as Section23, Sentai Filmworks, Maiden Japan, Seraphim Studios, etc. (Note that Kanon's last disc was released by Funimation after all of ADV's titles they licensed in ~2007-2008 under the Sojitz deal got transferred to Funimation.)that i disagree with, i think the clannad dub is downright terrible and doesnt do either the comedy nor the drama correctly, the only good from it was whoever voice tomoya did a really good job. Kanon did a good job on its comedy and especially its drama which kind of makes me wonder since almost all the people from the kanon dub were in the clannad dub except for chris patton so i question how one wasn't that good Once ADV went through this transformation, dubbing budgets went down and timetables sped up, resulting in the mistake-filled dubs and rushed subtitle script readthroughs we know from Sentai today. But it's not enough to look at the voice actors involved; you have to look at the directors and scriptwriters as well. Clannad's first quarter was written and directed by controversial director Steven Foster, who does well with comedy and action but not so well with drama and romance. The last 3 quarters were directed by Janice Williams (whose directing work is generally average) and written by Clint Bickham (about whom I have nothing good or bad to say). So you have jobs changing hands and more potential for inconsistency. Kanon, otoh, was directed by Kyle Jones, who'd always done solid work with drama shows (Diamond Daydreams, Kino's Journey, Madlax, Air), and written either by Jones himself or Kathleen Moynihan, who generally does good liberal scripts that don't stray too far into pointless rewrite territory. |
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| Weeabos: omg-desu subs aru crapdo. Sub is Sugoi-ne Sore ga sugurete iru-desuuu!! Dub are veryu americansu, kawaii nippon ichii-desu Baka gaijin dub nani-desu |
GEO9875 said: Weeabos: omg-desu subs aru crapdo. Sub is Sugoi-ne Sore ga sugurete iru-desuuu!! Dub are veryu americansu, kawaii nippon ichii-desu Baka gaijin dub nani-desu So hating dubs=weeaboo not true |
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| Dub. Always dub, unless it's something like School Days. |
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White-Shinigami said: Dub. Always dub, unless it's something like School Days. So basically always dub unless it has no dub Cause you can't be suggesting that School Days is bad, right? |
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JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america |
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gamer2710 said: +1JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america |
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JD2411 said: gamer2710 said: How is that relevant to anything I said?JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america I said it's disgusting how dubs only cater to north american audiences by changing japanese culture references to american culture references. That's why TL notes are beneficial because they explain the reference to non-japanese viewers whereas the vile american companies don't take into account foreigners at all. I agree with JD here. TL notes are definitely helpful and I usually would rather understand the reference than get a weird translation. |
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JD2411 said: gamer2710 said: How is that relevant to anything I said?JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america I said it's disgusting how dubs only cater to north american audiences by changing japanese culture references to american culture references. That's why TL notes are beneficial because they explain the reference to non-japanese viewers whereas the vile american companies don't take into account foreigners at all. I have to disagrree on not caring. I just think they don't like non American people watching their stuff. A lot of funi's previews are blocked in the Phillipenes and other places like Australlia, most likely because they don't sell there annd therefore don't feel obligated to consider them part of their target audience. |
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StardustPhantom said: JD2411 said: gamer2710 said: How is that relevant to anything I said?JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america I said it's disgusting how dubs only cater to north american audiences by changing japanese culture references to american culture references. That's why TL notes are beneficial because they explain the reference to non-japanese viewers whereas the vile american companies don't take into account foreigners at all. I have to disagrree on not caring. I just think they don't like non American people watching their stuff. A lot of funi's previews are blocked in the Phillipenes and other places like Australlia, most likely because they don't sell there annd therefore don't feel obligated to consider them part of their target audience. no it isnt that they dont want to it is because they dont have the right to sell to non north americans. funimation is a north american company that licenses anime in north america. if they wanted to include europe or australia they would need to buy a license to sell anime in those regions and that would be quite a large risk. |
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JD2411 said: but jokes are not funny if they have to be explained. i mean ever tell a joke to a friend have them not understand it then have to explain it to them? that is what TL notes are the jokes that you dont get having to be explained to yougamer2710 said: How is that relevant to anything I said?JD2411 said: TL notes should be illegal. It's basically a crutch for lazy and/or bad translators, that's why dubs are better, especially the ones that are rewritten to suit the audience. At least with dubs you don't have to read something to understand it. It's like subbers don't realize how bad they are.at least with subs you get the TL notes explaining the reference but they don't do that with dubs. It's like dubbing companies don't realise there are other english speaking countries outside of north america I said it's disgusting how dubs only cater to north american audiences by changing japanese culture references to american culture references. That's why TL notes are beneficial because they explain the reference to non-japanese viewers whereas the vile american companies don't take into account foreigners at all. |
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