| LE has a deep and complex plot.But the thing is,its a sequel to the original game and is not newcomer friendly at all.The anime itself is rushed and has too few episodes.I think most of the problems in it is caused because of rushing too much.I'm still enjoying it despite its many problems because as an expansion of extraverse its still has a great enough story.LE doesn't deserve the hate its getting.I like type moon related works because of its deep lore and complex mechanics anyway,both of which is present in LE. |
| Yes you are the only one in the world who likes this show. |
EclipseWinter said: Honestly i know fate extra last encore is a huge mix in the fate fandom considering thiers so many mixed opinions. Honestly i enjoyed alot. It feels like a breath of fresh air as its just focuses on the mystery aspect rather then the cool action packed that is the other fate series. The only problem i have with this anime is that its rushed and honestly causes a downside to the other characters in Fate Extra. though im pretty sure Fate Extra's Game builds up those characters so i do understand. Also i like how they use the idea of this Holy Grail War. Hakuno might just be my favorite Main Character. So What do yall think. Do you hate the anime? For me its my favorite Fate Anime so far. Even though its my favorite fate anime , i know how many problems it has but if i have to rate my enjoyment of the series, its above all the other fate animes. Fate Zero was an excellent anime, the only problem was that really boring first episode other than that it builds well and got enjoyable at the end. Fate Stay Night both ufotables UBW and deens version just felt so bland. Hell it was just normal battle shounen anime thats fate. I do hope Heavens Feel will change my opinion on Fate StayNight. Fate Aprocrypha was very meh. i honestly at the end just came for the cool fights as the story goes to non existant. Fate Grand Order First Order was ok but i understood why it got a poor score. it wasnt really trash as it just only adapted the prologue and not any of the really good singularities like camelot. Fate Extra Last Encore just made me happy considering it didnt feel like the other Fate Animes. Its just a bundle of mystery that gives me so many theories on whats going on. Hell cause of that it became my favorite fate. i had to watch each episode twice cause i know i missed something. Don't worry, you're not the only one. |
| I thought it was good, too....it's just that I think the series often gets you asking too many questions when you really want answers |
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| @JudoJD You can say whatever you want about LE, but saying It'd a cash grab is beyond ridiculous. A cash grab would be adapting the snore fest that was OG Extra with minimal changes or rewrites. A cash grab would have minimal effort allocated to it. Nasu actively took off his precious time that he could've just spent on the MUCH more profitable F/GO, but instead he wrote a completely new scenario using elements he wanted to use in the OG Extra but couldn't at the time. He trules cares about this story, regardless of what you think of it. |
EclipseWinter said: i really wont say its great considering its rush but its a pretty good anime to think about. this is me going off as real as well. If were an extrordainary Fate fan, i would Say Oh Ufotables Stay Night is AMAZING or Fate Zero is the best fate. in all opinon this has pull my interest more then any of the fate animes. Its so compicated and it mostly will get better with the second season. i can see how Studio Shaft is Lagging on this series considering they are heavily more focused on March Comes in Like a Lion. Being real or not but the fate fandom will stay seperate with this anime. Its a confusing story but it does make you think. I honestly wished they could have tooken there time but still i was actually excited for each episode coming out. honestly it might pull a 8bits anime Rewrite where Rewrite season 1 was confusing as hell but when Rewrite Season 2 came around it was one of the best. What season 2? Sry to burst your bubble but there wont be a second season. It will be really hard for you as an anime only to completely understand everything because they don't give you enough information and explanations that were in the game, hell they have vital explanations about the plot that they haven't included in the anime in their freaking Web site. This anime is such a mess lol. I think sometimes over thinking about something can make it seem away better than it really is. Shonen fans do it all the time. |
EclipseWinter said: Um actually it is getting a season 2. It's been confirmed for a while due to them starting fate extra late. Cause the there 2 more floors to go and the angelic cage floor. Also during the interview they said it was 2 cour.i have no idea what your thing. And honestly like I said before I'm most likely sure this is an actual sequel to the regular fate extra except it's like what if the mc fails in fate extra and twice wins. And I'm so confused what made you think it won't get a season 2 they been working on it along with the series. Also don't you think your underthinking the series abit much.i mean the plot is legit going through the 7 floors but the mystery is what exactly did happen in those 7 floors during that time skip along with run and rank as the watchers. Also I'm pretty sure anyone does it all the time regardless of shounen or Seinen or even shoujo or josei. Regardless all in all there is definetly a second season after this. It could be a special but they won't do one whole episode on 6 7 and then the angelica cage They have announced a "special broadcast" for last encore but they've never said that it's a whole second season. It's probably an hour long last episode/epilogue but if you want to hope that it's a second season you are free to do so. |
J1m1sMar 30, 2018 12:04 AM
J1m1s said: I think that's because it isn't an adaptation of the game, but rather a story loosely based on it. It reveals all this convoluted craziness piece by piece, and while it is daunting and capable of leading into confusion (especially with lore that on its own is already convoluted), it is better than trying to sit us down and explain the intricacies of everything constantly due to bad establishing of anything and/or the sheer amount that needs to be said for us to understand everything (see Mahouka for an example of this issue).EclipseWinter said: i really wont say its great considering its rush but its a pretty good anime to think about. this is me going off as real as well. If were an extrordainary Fate fan, i would Say Oh Ufotables Stay Night is AMAZING or Fate Zero is the best fate. in all opinon this has pull my interest more then any of the fate animes. Its so compicated and it mostly will get better with the second season. i can see how Studio Shaft is Lagging on this series considering they are heavily more focused on March Comes in Like a Lion. Being real or not but the fate fandom will stay seperate with this anime. Its a confusing story but it does make you think. I honestly wished they could have tooken there time but still i was actually excited for each episode coming out. honestly it might pull a 8bits anime Rewrite where Rewrite season 1 was confusing as hell but when Rewrite Season 2 came around it was one of the best. What season 2? Sry to burst your bubble but there wont be a second season. It will be really hard for you as an anime only to completely understand everything because they don't give you enough information and explanations that were in the game, hell they have vital explanations about the plot that they haven't included in the anime in their freaking Web site. This anime is such a mess lol. I think sometimes over thinking about something can make it seem away better than it really is. Shonen fans do it all the time. |
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JudoJD said: astroprogs said: @JudoJD You can say whatever you want about LE, but saying It'd a cash grab is beyond ridiculous. A cash grab would be adapting the snore fest that was OG Extra with minimal changes or rewrites. A cash grab would have minimal effort allocated to it. Nasu actively took off his precious time that he could've just spent on the MUCH more profitable F/GO, but instead he wrote a completely new scenario using elements he wanted to use in the OG Extra but couldn't at the time. He trules cares about this story, regardless of what you think of it. (Implying this was anywhere better than an adaptation of the original which people were hyped for instead would have been...) You pretty much said everything I feel about this in regards to cash grabs though ...and Nasu has been working on Fate/grand order.. He said they have to have servants (which also means the story) planned out months in advance before release ..but he's doing a better job on fate/grand order at least ...stuff like FGO basically is what contributed to the existence of these recent fate anime cause of the popularity boost they've given the franchise so I wouldn't scoff at its importance at the moment...trust me, it's anywhere but on the back burner..it's not being sidelined in any way shape or form I really don't hope he truly cares about this cause now if he goes back to the other nasuverse series being sidelined for more fate who knows what disaster they could turn out to be I get Extra's his first time and all working on an anime personally (even though he's been helped) but still, he can do better...waaay better Don't know what to tell you except that you were absolutely in the minority if you were hyped for a direct adaptation of Extra, just by looking at what the community thinks of the game in BL and reddit. In that corner of the Nasuverse, CCC is the only one that matters and everyone actually cares for. The best compliment you can ever give OG Extra is saying that it has very few great ideas buried under heaps of mediocrity. Time is money. Each second Nasu spent on LE is time taken away from F/GO. It's not like he goes on a vacation when DW starts working on their part. Nasu takes an ungodly amount of time to write his stories and he pretty much rewrites every single thing presented to him to be put in GO by the other writers (with EoR being the one exception, one can only assume because Nasu was working on the Lostbelts), so yes, GO was absolutely sidelined for LE's sake. I don't get that hate boner for Fate because Tsukihime and Mahoyo are delayed because of it. I love Tsukihime to death and the remake can't come soon enough, but I'd never tell Nasu to drop what he personally wants to do for the stuff I want. If Tsukihime never comes out because Nasu wants to work on more Fate, I'm all for it. I enjoy Nasu, not Fate. I just want more of his stories, regardless if it's Fate. Tsukihime, Mahoyo, DDD or even freaking Girl's work. |
astroprogsMar 30, 2018 2:00 PM
EclipseWinter said: I mean it could be a one hour broadcast but they can't put 3 places in 1 episode 10 and one special. Considering they have to fight blonde hair kid. I mean it could be an extra 4 episodes or some thing which I would say it's a season 2 since it's directing to the plot but regardless I feel like episode 10 will definetly focus on floor 6 but the special two episode would be floor 7 and then the angelic cage place would most likely be the fight with saver When you say second season most people would assume something like 10+ more episodes. Anyway,as I said there is no second season. It was confirmed that it will be 13 episodes. Episodes 11-13 will be broadcasted at a later date. |
J1m1sMar 30, 2018 1:50 PM
AnnaHomura said: astroprogs said: Don't know what to tell you except that you were absolutely in the minority if you were hyped for a direct adaptation of Extra, just by looking at what the community thinks of the game in BL and reddit. In that corner of the Nasuverse, CCC is the only one that matters and everyone actually cares for. The best compliment you can ever give OG Extra is saying that it has very few great ideas buried under heaps of mediocrity. Time is money. Each second Nasu spent on LE is time taken away from F/GO. It's not like he goes on a vacation when DW starts working on their part. Nasu takes an ungodly amount of time to write his stories and he pretty much rewrites every single thing presented to him to be put in GO by the other writers (with EoR being the one exception, one can only assume because Nasu was working on the Lostbelts), so yes, GO was absolutely sidelined for LE's sake. I don't get that hate boner for Fate because Tsukihime and Mahoyo are delayed because of it. I love Tsukihime to death and the remake can't come soon enough, but I'd never tell Nasu to drop what he personally wants to do for the stuff I want. If Tsukihime never comes out because Nasu wants to work on more Fate, I'm all for it. I enjoy Nasu, not Fate. I just want more of his stories, regardless if it's Fate. Tsukihime, Mahoyo, DDD or even freaking Girl's work. Sorry for interrupting to burst your bubble but FGO totally hasn't been sidelined for anything. Last Encore is basically a side project even for the studio it seems because the fate series is a guaranteed cash cow now. I think they just need to hold on on fate anime until the passion they initially had comes back so they can at least put some effort into delivering quality in the anime department. Only team that seems to really care is the guys at ufotable working on heaven's feel at the moment. A callback to his previous work like Tsukihime may just be enough to bring back his edge in terms of story telling if more support can be shown for those even though his work is still seen shining at times in grand order ever since he took charge of the story after the first couple of chapters in part one. Last encore just feels a bit too overconfident on both Nasu and Shaft's parts because financial support from fans of both is guaranteed. Gen Urobuchi who wrote Fate/Zero at times even seems more passionate in exploring the series potential than Nasu does despite his love for it. Nasu does prioritise Fate so it's a shame when stories like tsukihime and mahoyo which would be a welcome addition to the anime world at the moment if given to a team that truly cares unlike what we've been witnessing recently outside the stay night story. I do also think telling people to get into an outdated game of that style rather than just having an anime adaptation with all the improvements and tweaks he wanted so much would have been a better idea than what was done here. It's too late to turn back now though. If they gave fate/stay night another shot without giving up I believe they can give Extra another try in a couple of years. Nasu thought this would get newcomers into the games yet it's convinced a lot of people otherwise. That should be remedied. It's hard defending a guy and a studio you personally know can do way better than what's been shown to the rest of the anime community. The director's no slouch either so I can't excuse some things in this anime as anything besides not caring or plain incompetence. Do people just not get what writing an entirely new scenario from scratch entails? LE is as much of a side project for Nasu as any of the singularities he wrote. If Nasu was overconfident, he'd throw OG Extra to SHAFT's scenario writers to adapt into anime and not get involved. I mean, it IS Fate and it WOULD sell either way, right? Why invest a single brain cell in it if it will get money anyway, right? You see how ridiculous these claims are? LE is a passion project through and through. Corporate wisdom would always point towards reusing what's already there, because, as I said, time is money. And yet, Nasu wrote a new story when he just didn't need to if profit was the only thing he cared about. Regardless of what you think of LE and Nasu's narrative decision made in making it, saying it's a cash grab and that Nasu doesn't care is just insane. I won't comment on the parts about SHAFT, since the true SHAFT product is always the BD not the TV broadcast version, but I'll just say that ufo isn't the only studio that cares. Silver Link does an amazing job with Prisma Illya and even A-1 went ham on talented freelancer animators to get the best out of the trainwreck that was Apocrypha's story. They absolutely care, and this doesn't stop being true if you personally don't like the results. |
| Nah its garbage. Fate/Zero remains the only great Fate series, this franchise is a joke apart from that show. I thought UBW was bad but these last two Fate series somehow managed to be even shittier |
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