Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Part 2 Episode 9 Discussion

_Usurper_ said:

I am sorry mate My standards are not as low as you. I am can't eat up this garbage.

I login to watch anime after working for 10 hours. I don't give a single fuck about attention from degenerate weebs. I just want to enjoy myself while watching anime. which I clearly didn't during this episode.
If you clearly don't want to hear any negative opinion about your favorite show why not ignore others and have develop a ability to handle difference of opinions?
Right now 56 people gave this episode 1 star which is 7% of total votes. will you bitch about them too.?
Don't quote me again . I am just gonna ignore you.
END of discussion.

_Usurper_ said:

I login to watch anime after working for 10 hours. I don't give a single fuck about attention from weebs. I just want to enjoy myself while watching anime. which I clearly didn't during this episode.
If you clearly don't want to hear any negative opinion about your favorite show why not ignore others and have develop a ability to handle difference of opinions?
Right now 56 people gave this episode 1 star which is 7% of total votes. will you quote about them too.?
Don't quote me again . I am just gonna ignore you.
END of discussion.

Mathi786 said:

My answer is that genocide is still wrong and eren shouldn't kill everyone outside the walls, he should just kill the upper management and conquer the world so everyone can live in peace without kill nations

KneelBeforeMe said:
Wow, the direction and storyboarding this episode was so disappointing. Closest thing to a script read I've watched in some time. The only notable positive for me this episode is the soundtrack and voice acting, the rest is so forgettable.

Yeah showing the general scenery can set the mood, but spending most of the episode showing slideshows of trees or the character who's being spoken to in a still frame isn't engrossing whatsoever. The only scene that I somewhat enjoyed was the one of Jean beating up Reiner, yet even that scene was poorly storyboarded.

I really thought MAPPA would elevate the alliance discussion and moment of bonding overnight, but it's as rushed and as inefficient as the manga. I'd hope for more since they spent the whole episode on this specific moment.

nexuro01 said:
Nah, the overall story would be much better if ex-scouts did a nice split where some joined marleyans and other joined yeagerists. Like look at Levi, he wants monke to bite the dust so bad but he doesn't give a fuck about working with person responsible of killing his beloved squad. It also sucks that Jean is literally the only paradian cringevenger member that had some inner thoughts about saving people from outside the walls. Connie seems to give zero fucks about Pieck gasing his entire village, everything beyond chapter 123 is just bullshit and poor story telling. Especially the last 3 chapters that took bad writing into next level.

KushIsekai said:
Unpopular opinion this season of AOT at least part 2. Is T R A S H !!! Like wtf 4 weeks straight of boredom and story time like wtf. They could’ve been quicker than 4 episodes of talking wow. Best part of the entire season was when Aaron got shot and took over the power. The rest seems like fillers and oh yeah let’s make the story make sense. Smh disappointed af so far-

samashi20 said:
I cried.. Before I knew it, my tears were welling as I watched Jean beat Reiner up and then Gabi taking a kick to protect Reiner. The parallelism this episode had with Declaration of War is not something I was expecting. The OST played when Jean attacked Reiner is the same one that was used with Reiner and Eren in the basement and Willy giving his speech in the background, Gabi's words are the same words Willy used to declare war, Reiner's opinion of himself and his guilt are still the same.. I'm in awe.

I liked the entire episode, from Jean thinking about a peaceful life with Mikasa (it's obviously implied), to Annie challenging Mikasa, to Yelena rubbing it in the face of every single person, etc.. Yelena.. Who would've thought she was a Marleyan.. It doesn't seem like she cared about the world, she only cared about Marley. She's as despicable as Floch, both truly evil characters.

Once again, we're reminded how cruel war is. It doesn't matter who you support and which side you're on, there will be always victims, innocents who have to pay the price. Everyone sitting around in that circle committed a war crime, but the acknowledge that. Really loved how Yelena mocked the goal everyone seems to adopt to justify their actions, "saving the world". If you think about it, that's the same idea that started the war and led them to where they are now.

A new episode has been added to the list of my AoT favorites.

It looks like we're in for some action tomorrow. As sad and fucked up it may sound, it brings back the old days to see everyone in their ODM gear again and on the same line.

Mathi786 said:
Oh man, jean's innocent dream broke my heart, a good life with a cute kid and at a nice house with Mikasa (it was definitely mikasa) but sadly in this cruel world a man can't have dreams 😭😭😭,

Anyway good ep and it made me think about something, they are saying genocide is bad and it shouldn't happen and stuff, but Marley was trying to do the exact same thing to paradise island, they just didn't used the word genocide before but wiping out a whole nation is also genocide, right? So that made me think if what Eren is doing is ok or not, like if the enemy is trying to kill you, than you should kill the enemy, that's how it works so why is everyone hating eren???

My answer is that genocide is still wrong and eren shouldn't kill everyone outside the walls, he should just kill the upper management and conquer the world so everyone can live in peace without kill nations

qx26 said:
This episode was definitely one of the lower production made episodes. a lot of still shots and minimal changing of scenes. The dialogue made up for it though.

Yelena is still mysterious as always.

That Floch cliffhanger was great. Always like to see more Floch

Mathi786 said:

When that dream becomes reality 🤣,it's actually canon🤣,and jean x Mikasa makes way more sence than eren x mikasa

SiGow said:

Exactly, Hayashi's direction have been subpar. But the fandom keeps sucking his dick anyway. I get that we shouldn't harras him, but he clear isn't suitable for AOT, not in the slightest.

Trax3x said:
The Director of Sole Salvation and Sunset. One of the best director from MAPPA's side but the downgrade is real. Probably the production committee fell off for this episode.

Mack_Yeager said:


When that dream becomes reality 🤣,it's actually canon🤣,and jean x Mikasa makes way more sence than eren x mikasa

Cruicruise said:

Is that really an option though? Eldians are already viscerally hated throughout the world, and with that the resentment would be even stronger through futur generations to the point they would clash eventually. It's too much of a gamble. Also the Eldians would still have the Titan curse to deal with, which from what we've seen Eren is strongly opposed to.

Assuming Eren knows a way to end the curse now that he has the founding powers, he has to kill everyone in order to assure the safety of his people, otherwise they would find themselves pretty much defenseless to outside attacks.

Cruicruise said:

It's not canon until Isayama says so. There's no way to tell from the manga

niko_sb said:
I'm still a bit confused, maybe because real life stuff burning my head and I forgot some explanations, like why is Eren doing that tho

But okay, this is a good episode.
They are keeping it for the finale, right?

Mack_Yeager said:


I swear ,but for some reason I find the adaptation still passable ,I really enjoyed the floch cliffhanger,

But have to be really honest here, hayashi knows that he isn't good at directing AOT ,he was forced to do it ,and the excuse they are giving is his goddamn eyes🤦🏻

Like tell me one thing an anime like demon slayer although the story is trash in comparision has way better directing and animation ,that makes the trash story atleast average ,but over here the effect is opposite, although the episode was a 10/10 it still lacked the energy

divaddd said:
Not gonna lie, good episode.

But still, why the rumbling and massacre of the whole world, Isayama?

You've got the power (rumbling) that can defeat everyone else, therefore you should be able to make new rules and order for a new world by educating the people about the history of the past and clearing the misunderstandings among nations. Just like what had just happened in this episode.

I still cannot understand this savage decision of Isayama by making Eren the most evil person ever in history. It's just not necessary.

joy_swifty said:
Jean was really like the best main character of all. He has become shining just a few episodes so far. I thought Eren would come back. At least for his family-friends' sake.