Was the alternative timelines where Subaru died erased or not? Timeline split theory

Jul 12, 2020 3:23 PM

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there are some storys called IF from the author but there was never a story were subaru stay dead

Jul 12, 2020 4:06 PM

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Lets be honest you just copy & pasted the synopsis from the wiki didnt you? Literally all of this will be explained in Arc 4 aka this season.

Jul 12, 2020 4:54 PM

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The different timelines thing will be (kinda?) explained this season, probably in the latter half (not sure since it's been a while since I read the novel).

Jul 12, 2020 5:15 PM

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This will all show in this season lol

Jul 12, 2020 6:05 PM

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Maruseru93 said:
there are some storys called IF from the author but there was never a story were subaru stay dead

Jul 12, 2020 6:27 PM

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protagonist is just hopping parallel universes that kinda has a checkpoint after he may or may not have accomplished something significant, leaving the other "universes" with comparatively more to ignore than knowing. Protagonist just restarts if he feels not living in the world that doesn't have "someone" making him come a bit selfish as to not consider other variables (ref split 11.) ._.

Jul 12, 2020 6:43 PM

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what, really!?

I thought this about different timelines was going to be totally out of the focus of the story, like "all you need to know about RbD is what you already know"

and then proceed in the plot with cultist mysteries, contratcs, curses, the hidden befalfs, the truth about the witches, the dragon and something like this.

Jul 12, 2020 7:08 PM

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Rob7 said:
what, really!?

I thought this about different timelines was going to be totally out of the focus of the story, like "all you need to know about RbD is what you already know"

Jul 13, 2020 10:12 PM

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Rob7 said:
*No spoilers please*
It requires less power to just split a timeline, than to completely stop, erase a reality and restart it from a point in past.

I think that is what Satella is doing to Subary, since it is easier.

Why would it require less power? Why would it be easier? This is entirely an assumption.

Furthermore, while split timelines is a possibility that will be explored in this season, I don't believe it, because it doesn't fit with Satella's character. All of the timelines where Subaru died, Satella in that timeline would be left with no Subaru, which doesn't really make any sense.

Jul 14, 2020 7:28 AM

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From the summary spoilers back then that I read,

Jul 15, 2020 1:34 AM

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Saku_k said:

Rob7 said:
*No spoilers please*
It requires less power to just split a timeline, than to completely stop, erase a reality and restart it from a point in past.

I think that is what Satella is doing to Subary, since it is easier.

Why would it require less power? Why would it be easier? This is entirely an assumption.

Furthermore, while split timelines is a possibility that will be explored in this season, I don't believe it, because it doesn't fit with Satella's character. All of the timelines where Subaru died, Satella in that timeline would be left with no Subaru, which doesn't really make any sense.

Jul 15, 2020 8:19 AM

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I read novel re zero, don't believe the spoilers above are all lies

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Jul 15, 2020 9:08 AM

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MonoReaper said:

Jul 15, 2020 9:43 AM

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Spoilers discussing to Spoilers.

I must learn that in every series adapted from completed novels (or in advanced status) it is absolutely useless try to propose inocent theories.

Cant even compare to anime based on mangas, since in this case the source usually is just 1 season far, or a bit more. And both are similar in being visual art, while novel is a book.

Resistance is futile.

Jul 15, 2020 11:59 AM

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Saku_k said:

MonoReaper said:

Echidna saying its just her "assumption" is just her nature as a researcher. If she cant confirm things at 100% then she will say its just a possibility.
We literally get the confirmation from dialog with Louis inside of Od Lagna where she confirms that several memories that shouldnt exist pop up in the craddle that filters souls. And they also go into talk or rather Subaru comes to a conclusion that Od Lagna is connected to him not dying aka the moment he found is own books of death (several of them aka all of them total death count) confirms that the worldlines are created each time he dies.
Which explains why is soul doesnt get filtered. His hard copy each time is taken by The Witch of Envy and brought back to the "save point" creating a new timeline.
Also the logic that Satella just creates several veersion of herself is flawed and way to small as a train of thought. So far we saw several world law breaking abilitys. The thought that Satella/Witch of Envy exists several times or just only 1 time i speculation. Plus we dont know the current state of her existence. She can bend laws of time and space. Literally transported Subaru from Earth to this world. I dont think you can just cast the fact aside that her sole existence is a exteme one bending laws of her own universe & that from earth at her whims. Heck you could even say she is a godlike entity at this point as she can break free form her prison at any given moment if she wants to.
Also that goes into Stein;Gate esque territory but creating new timelines doenst mean the main wordline is affected. Aka not if Subaru prevents things from going to shit in the first place. Aka the timeline Subaru died exist as well as the timeline where he doenst die. The possibility and his action dont just disappear. And the Books of his Death wouldnt exist no new timelines arent created & the Libary of Death records every filtered Souls yet Subaru is in there. That means that "our Subaru" is just the main copy Satella/WitchofEnvy cares about while all the "other Subarus" are copys she doesnt care about. Which is why she kills a Subaru everytime he RbD because the "main Subaru" overwrittes the mind of the "save file" Subaru.

@Rob7 Ma dude even if i give you the benefit of doubt. The fact that you wrote down stuff that is almost 1 to 1 copys from the synopis of the LightNovel/WebNovel plot means you either already knew the entire plot so far or you just came to that perfect conclusions on your own which is impressive but i honestly doubt that given how close your points are to the truth from the Novels.

Jul 15, 2020 11:03 PM

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MonoReaper said:

Echidna saying its just her "assumption" is just her nature as a researcher. If she cant confirm things at 100% then she will say its just a possibility.
We literally get the confirmation from dialog with Louis inside of Od Lagna where she confirms that several memories that shouldnt exist pop up in the craddle that filters souls. And they also go into talk or rather Subaru comes to a conclusion that Od Lagna is connected to him not dying aka the moment he found is own books of death (several of them aka all of them total death count) confirms that the worldlines are created each time he dies.
Which explains why is soul doesnt get filtered. His hard copy each time is taken by The Witch of Envy and brought back to the "save point" creating a new timeline.
Also the logic that Satella just creates several veersion of herself is flawed and way to small as a train of thought. So far we saw several world law breaking abilitys. The thought that Satella/Witch of Envy exists several times or just only 1 time i speculation. Plus we dont know the current state of her existence. She can bend laws of time and space. Literally transported Subaru from Earth to this world. I dont think you can just cast the fact aside that her sole existence is a exteme one bending laws of her own universe & that from earth at her whims. Heck you could even say she is a godlike entity at this point as she can break free form her prison at any given moment if she wants to.
Also that goes into Stein;Gate esque territory but creating new timelines doenst mean the main wordline is affected. Aka not if Subaru prevents things from going to shit in the first place. Aka the timeline Subaru died exist as well as the timeline where he doenst die. The possibility and his action dont just disappear. And the Books of his Death wouldnt exist no new timelines arent created & the Libary of Death records every filtered Souls yet Subaru is in there. That means that "our Subaru" is just the main copy Satella/WitchofEnvy cares about while all the "other Subarus" are copys she doesnt care about. Which is why she kills a Subaru everytime he RbD because the "main Subaru" overwrittes the mind of the "save file" Subaru.

@Rob7 Ma dude even if i give you the benefit of doubt. The fact that you wrote down stuff that is almost 1 to 1 copys from the synopis of the LightNovel/WebNovel plot means you either already knew the entire plot so far or you just came to that perfect conclusions on your own which is impressive but i honestly doubt that given how close your points are to the truth from the Novels.

Jul 15, 2020 11:51 PM

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Saku_k said:

MonoReaper said:

Echidna saying its just her "assumption" is just her nature as a researcher. If she cant confirm things at 100% then she will say its just a possibility.
We literally get the confirmation from dialog with Louis inside of Od Lagna where she confirms that several memories that shouldnt exist pop up in the craddle that filters souls. And they also go into talk or rather Subaru comes to a conclusion that Od Lagna is connected to him not dying aka the moment he found is own books of death (several of them aka all of them total death count) confirms that the worldlines are created each time he dies.
Which explains why is soul doesnt get filtered. His hard copy each time is taken by The Witch of Envy and brought back to the "save point" creating a new timeline.
Also the logic that Satella just creates several veersion of herself is flawed and way to small as a train of thought. So far we saw several world law breaking abilitys. The thought that Satella/Witch of Envy exists several times or just only 1 time i speculation. Plus we dont know the current state of her existence. She can bend laws of time and space. Literally transported Subaru from Earth to this world. I dont think you can just cast the fact aside that her sole existence is a exteme one bending laws of her own universe & that from earth at her whims. Heck you could even say she is a godlike entity at this point as she can break free form her prison at any given moment if she wants to.
Also that goes into Stein;Gate esque territory but creating new timelines doenst mean the main wordline is affected. Aka not if Subaru prevents things from going to shit in the first place. Aka the timeline Subaru died exist as well as the timeline where he doenst die. The possibility and his action dont just disappear. And the Books of his Death wouldnt exist no new timelines arent created & the Libary of Death records every filtered Souls yet Subaru is in there. That means that "our Subaru" is just the main copy Satella/WitchofEnvy cares about while all the "other Subarus" are copys she doesnt care about. Which is why she kills a Subaru everytime he RbD because the "main Subaru" overwrittes the mind of the "save file" Subaru.

@Rob7 Ma dude even if i give you the benefit of doubt. The fact that you wrote down stuff that is almost 1 to 1 copys from the synopis of the LightNovel/WebNovel plot means you either already knew the entire plot so far or you just came to that perfect conclusions on your own which is impressive but i honestly doubt that given how close your points are to the truth from the Novels.

Mar 16, 2021 4:38 PM

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MonoReaper said:

Saku_k said:

MonoReaper said:

Echidna saying its just her "assumption" is just her nature as a researcher. If she cant confirm things at 100% then she will say its just a possibility.
We literally get the confirmation from dialog with Louis inside of Od Lagna where she confirms that several memories that shouldnt exist pop up in the craddle that filters souls. And they also go into talk or rather Subaru comes to a conclusion that Od Lagna is connected to him not dying aka the moment he found is own books of death (several of them aka all of them total death count) confirms that the worldlines are created each time he dies.
Which explains why is soul doesnt get filtered. His hard copy each time is taken by The Witch of Envy and brought back to the "save point" creating a new timeline.
Also the logic that Satella just creates several veersion of herself is flawed and way to small as a train of thought. So far we saw several world law breaking abilitys. The thought that Satella/Witch of Envy exists several times or just only 1 time i speculation. Plus we dont know the current state of her existence. She can bend laws of time and space. Literally transported Subaru from Earth to this world. I dont think you can just cast the fact aside that her sole existence is a exteme one bending laws of her own universe & that from earth at her whims. Heck you could even say she is a godlike entity at this point as she can break free form her prison at any given moment if she wants to.
Also that goes into Stein;Gate esque territory but creating new timelines doenst mean the main wordline is affected. Aka not if Subaru prevents things from going to shit in the first place. Aka the timeline Subaru died exist as well as the timeline where he doenst die. The possibility and his action dont just disappear. And the Books of his Death wouldnt exist no new timelines arent created & the Libary of Death records every filtered Souls yet Subaru is in there. That means that "our Subaru" is just the main copy Satella/WitchofEnvy cares about while all the "other Subarus" are copys she doesnt care about. Which is why she kills a Subaru everytime he RbD because the "main Subaru" overwrittes the mind of the "save file" Subaru.

@Rob7 Ma dude even if i give you the benefit of doubt. The fact that you wrote down stuff that is almost 1 to 1 copys from the synopis of the LightNovel/WebNovel plot means you either already knew the entire plot so far or you just came to that perfect conclusions on your own which is impressive but i honestly doubt that given how close your points are to the truth from the Novels.

@MonoReaper What the FUCK is your problem? Oh my god.... What the fuck. :DD Youre discussing about things you can barely comprehend yourself, and which are quite theoretical, at best. Also, from what I understand, while the Library does exist in a 'real' world, physically, the 'cradle of souls' that it connects to might be a different thing entirely. And if thats not the case, and Od Laguna exists within the world, then it should not have any of subaru's previous death records, as he hasnt technically died in the 'new world'. That would be a creator oversight. And if it does have those records, then it either transcends time-pace and is connected to all versions of the world timelines (which, if you have the brain to comprehend it, would create quite a few problems relating to duplicate souls of the same person across all timelines), OR... or, it transcends time-space and is simply unaffected by subarus 'time rewind' other tan recording his multiple deaths. And rather than rewinding the entirety of existence to an earlier saved state (absolutely godly power requirements) it might be just as simple as him being fucked outside time-space (because hes dead, and he is now a soul... duh), being somehow caught or bound by satella and superimposed into his earlier point of existence in reality. Now that has another problem, and that is also concerning soul duplication... How can your soul go back in time and into your earlier version of your body if that version already has you (the soul) in it? Well, unfortunately for you, that same problem exists with multiple timeline creation and hopping, that you keep defending like your life depends on it, assuming its his soul that gets transported. That also could likely be a creator oversight (theyre trying to create a catching story, not an entire complex world...). You could also say that there are no souls at all, and its just his mental 'imprint' that gets transported and merged into his earlier psyche, allowing his earlier version to become his later version. Now, if you dont understand what im talking about, and are essentially mindufucked, dont feel bad - youre likely not the only one.

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