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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Where's Ilya when Sakura got captured? |
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| I was thinking about the same thing :s |
| Good point Ilya disappeared. Hm is Shirou's hand bleeding because of the attacks by the teacher or is it due to overuse of his tracing? Next few episodes should be very interesting =) Hope we see a fight on the scale of berserker vs archer. I want to see unlimited blade works again. |
| I didn't expect that.. Next episode.. |
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| Caster's master just owns shit up martial arts style in a business suit. |
| Whoa! Where did that teacher's bad-ass skills come from? O_o |
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Zell182 said: Whoa! Where did that teacher's bad-ass skills come from? O_o I assumed it was pretty much all enchantments from caster, no human can move that fast lol. Although we only saw caster cast a hand enchantment on him, she must've casted some sort of speed enchantment as well beforehand, and possibly others o.O |
brinanOct 7, 2009 8:12 PM
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| Lol, the teacher looks like the pedo from Azumanga Daioh! Kinda weird that Sakura does not seem to care that her brother's dead. |
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| LOL SO true... Kazuki-sensei really looks like the Pedo sensei from Azumanga XD... But heck he's pure ownage!!! Who would thought he would be so awesome.... He could fight against Saber and later on against Shirou and Archer's dual Swords without breaking a sweat... WOW WTFF!!! So... It's not just Caster, but Assassin... Pfff.... they're doomed... Shirou + Rin Team is prone to be defeated easily... I'm sad to say it... but it's the most probable thing to happen... Caster who can enhance the crazed teacher with Magical and Physical protection without diminishing his abilities and And has some crazy Martial Art moves and Sasaki Koujiro, Assassin.... who has the Tsuki whatever sword move... Oh noes... They have it hard... But yeh what the fruck? Where was Ilya when Caster took over Sakura... Fools... how you couldn't think of the possibility that the whole thing could be a trap.. a trap to get either Sakura or Ilya in their hands... Oh well... this will get even better now :D Signs, Green |
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yakyuu-addict said: Caster's master just owns shit up martial arts style in a business suit. Rofl nicely put~ Its cheap though, saber can't use her noble phantasm anymore...and caster can buff others it seems, so imagine her buffing the assassin servant..he was already a worthy opponent for saber x.x |
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brinan said: Zell182 said: Whoa! Where did that teacher's bad-ass skills come from? O_o I assumed it was pretty much all enchantments from caster, no human can move that fast lol. Although we only saw caster cast a hand enchantment on him, she must've casted some sort of speed enchantment as well beforehand, and possibly others o.O It seems that way. |
| Sakura is definitely strange. I'm looking forward to what Emiya will do next. |
| Hmm, it always appeared that Kuzuki was never up to any good. But shit, to think he's more powerful than Saber... o.0? Looks like the good guys are in a pretty big pinch. |
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| Castor is one helluva bad-ass servant!! Killing her master (i'd like to see him/her) then randomly picking someone else to fill in the spot. Truth be told, she one crazy woman |
| Kuzuki! Teacher during the day, bad ass master at night lol |
| I think we could guess they were going to get Sakura. However, i think there have been enough hints till now to hope that Sakura has or can do something we don't know about. ( She could smell the blood on Rin, says she'll be fine in a knowing way...) |
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| Poor Sakura. :( Poor girl just can't live normal life. :( |
| I like how Studio Deen didn't even try to explain why Kuzuki was able to defeat Saber, purely because of his "unique" attacks and, like someone in this thread has already said It would not happen again. Overall, as before, I hate how they keep throwing in random stuff from UBW in such a haphazard fashion. In the VN, Shirou makes an effort to find out from his friend about the woman, being caster is, and finds out about Kuzuki then. In the anime he oh so conveniently shows up at his house. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| So where's Lancer in all of this? I love how they're going about things like he doesn't exist. |
| So i know hes a bad guy and all but that teacher guy is a bad ass. I agree with everyone else... where was Ilya???? Really the Shiro, Saber, Rin team is no match against bad ass teacher, caster, assassin team. there is no logical explanation for a plausable reason they could win. They will win obviously because the main characters always win but thats the only reason they will. They are out skilled. The bad guys completely have the upper hand so much so its unfair. especially now that Saber doesnt have her special attack thing. They dont stand a chance. This episode was strangely boring to me. the only interesting part was the bad ass teacher kicking all three of their butts. |
Hakuromatsu said: So where's Lancer in all of this? I love how they're going about things like he doesn't exist. this is also a very good point. we haven't seen him since the beginning of the series. Not even one other confrontation. its like he completely disappeared off the face of the earth or something. |
| Ilya is busy forming a diabolic plan to defeat everyone to get the Holy Grail herself! XD |
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namelessregret said: The first part of the episode was booooooring. Actually, the only good part was the teacher pwning some asses. Let's see what will happen with Sakura... I can't feel bad for her after watching FZ, anyway. WTF? And this arc is 100% anime original.Might as well skip it.... |
namelessregret said: ssjokg said: namelessregret said: The first part of the episode was booooooring. Actually, the only good part was the teacher pwning some asses. Let's see what will happen with Sakura... I can't feel bad for her after watching FZ, anyway. WTF? And this arc is 100% anime original.Might as well skip it.... Yeah who deserves to be brainwashed by worms...... It looks like you only see whats on screen without looking somewhat deeper. |
| Damn now everything was going so good, Sakura got captured :( |
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| Of course they would get Sakura...I'm just shocked of how bad Saber got owned. |
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| Castor sure is an interesting character. |
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| yeah get some cute face from saber when she is eating in this episode wohooo XD btw caster finally show up.. well she quite creepy.. and the master is sensei? hmm.. i dont mind but.. he talking like an idiot -_- sakura is taken.. nooooo :( take them broo.. XD ItsMeAndrea said: Where's Ilya when Sakura got captured? thats it.. thats what make me confuse.. she is go home? lol XD |
| I just love the OP. From what I knew about Fate/SN, Caster was supposed to be the weakest class so I expected her to fail, but she really found a way to play the game with means different than power, that's impressive. |
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| Something I didn't understand about this episode is how Shirou was able to replicate Archer's yin-yang swords despite not having actually seen them. ...unless I'm misremembering the first couple of episodes and Archer pulled them out while fighting Lancer |
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ThreePercent said: They're called Kanshou & Bakuya. He did see them yes.Something I didn't understand about this episode is how Shirou was able to replicate Archer's yin-yang swords despite not having actually seen them. ...unless I'm misremembering the first couple of episodes and Archer pulled them out while fighting Lancer |
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ThreePercent said: Something I didn't understand about this episode is how Shirou was able to replicate Archer's yin-yang swords despite not having actually seen them. ...unless I'm misremembering the first couple of episodes and Archer pulled them out while fighting Lancer That's explained in the Unlimited Blade Works route. If you watch the new anime coming out this fall or watch the older movie or play the visual novel, it'll make more sense. Unfortunately, since the original Fate/Stay Night anime was a compilation of routes (but mostly the Fate route), there's certain plot holes. |
Piegoose said: Well, overall it feels as though masters aren't portrayed as weak in this version. Except that they are portrayed as inept children in comparison to ufofsn. Emiya is able to hold his own to an extent, No way near the level or style he should be able to, as he yet again appears as blubbering idiot instead of calm and calculating. Rin was able to take one of Berserker's lives. Which lacks context on why that is so important and just makes berserker look weak. Don't get me wrong RIN CAN do that, but without context one of her most badass moments in fate route lacks any punch I would say this master being able to knock down Saber is going to the next level, byt it's a fantasy show so it isn't always expected that it will explain the dynamics of things too much. Except that it IS explained. Nasuverse is well famous in terms of explaining and backing up the shit that is going on. All that's necessary is that it gives the details in that Kuzuki is a master that is strong enough to beat down Saber - now all the show has to do it not break that fact with some contrivance. Except that it has nothing to do with strength. A most average servant has strength and speed tens of times above human. Servants move at speeds barely visible to human eye, survive outrageous amount of damage, Even so, it would feel odd for Kuzuki to explain all of the mechanics in detail as there would really be no benefit to him doing so. Him asking Caster to enhance his fists basically shows the viewer that Caster is casting spells on him to make him formidable to servants. Whether that's how it is in the VN or not is irrelevant as this isn't expected to be exactly the same. It felt shonen-y and this should not be a shonen(the VN is not). Showing the enhanced arms(with color scheme implicating its Caster's doing) like UFOFSN did that scene is okay. Either way this whole scene has no place in Fate route anyway because of how the timeline goes. Caster would have no time to get interested in them nor pay close watch to the master. There's no way to fuse those two timelines without serious plotholes in logic. I think all of the analyzing of changes is a bit too fueled by being too attached to the source material.Animes are usually at their best when they alter things to better fit the screen. Except that half the shit in DEENFSN is impossible to understand without VN knowledge(random dragons, Shirou's survivability, FUCKING LATEX SAKURA OUT OF NOWHERE, Archer's power, etc), yet with VN knowledge all of that looks even sillier. DEEN FSN is as nonsensical as it gets. it is a cheap cash grab anime original storyline that tried to cash in on the fame of the visual novel at the time. It did a piss poor job at adapting it and had three biggest mistakes in an adaptation: 1) Had Mari Okada as main writer(ala the woman who only writers trainwrecks like wixoss, aquarion evol or second second of darker than black) 2) Had a director who thoroughly hated Shirou and had no understanding of characters at all (going as far as saying that Shirou is "typical teenager" or that "Best trait of Sakura is that she would be cheap to date" or that "Saber is actually the main protagonist of this"). A director who did not even bother to contact the original authors who outright stated they would help with any info needed on either FSN or ties to Fate/Zero that was being written back then. The only time Director contacted Kinoko Nasu was to ask whether he can replace sex scene with giant CGI dragon. As a result the story now has a shitload of inconsistencies with both source material AND with Fate/Zero. 3) Had Studio DEEN as studio who adapts. The Studio that is rivaled only by TOEI in terms of skimming off the budget of the animation and making everything look shit. |
AhenshihaelJan 4, 2015 8:32 AM
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| The problems with DEEN's adaptations are vastly over-exaggerated. As a standalone anime this was an enjoyable show. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| This feels like FMA all over again, interesting beginning but then it got kinda dull and boring. |
| i wonder if the fact that Matous can no longer use magic will play into the plot and interfere with caster's plan. a servant summoning another servant? finally an interesting development |
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m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: i wonder if the fact that Matous can no longer use magic will play into the plot and interfere with caster's plan. a servant summoning another servant? finally an interesting development Honestly, I can't help but admit I'm a little curious... Why are you watching this instead of the 2014 remake, especially when you've come from Ufotable's F/Z and should logically go ahead to watching Ufotable's take on the original? @.@ Though I mean, it's not totally bad. The original adaptation can be nice, after all. I just think it's a little...backwards. |
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CarenPriest said: m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: i wonder if the fact that Matous can no longer use magic will play into the plot and interfere with caster's plan. a servant summoning another servant? finally an interesting development Honestly, I can't help but admit I'm a little curious... Why are you watching this instead of the 2014 remake, especially when you've come from Ufotable's F/Z and should logically go ahead to watching Ufotable's take on the original? @.@ Though I mean, it's not totally bad. The original adaptation can be nice, after all. I just think it's a little...backwards. Like 2-3 people tried to warn him at like episode 3. It's all ogre now. |
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ColdBeans said: Kinda weird that Sakura does not seem to care that her brother's dead. I was gonna say! And also you'd expect Shirou to care about her well-being and ask her how's she's holding up. Plus it's more awkward that the murderer is right across the table and Shirou knows it... |
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