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| one thing im looking foreword to is that shit looks like its going to go very wrong next episode for our characters |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Absolutely adore this episode. Well done BONES. One of the most enjoyable episodes so far. |
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Neoclaw said: ah.. don't try to confuse yourself.. it was already written in fate and there is no one time different in the past.. cause and effect is distorted and it made a paradoxical loop (i.e. Aika died because Hakaze went back to the past because Aika died because Hakaze went back to the past because Aika died because.. .. .., etc.).. this is naturally what happens in single continuity type time travel stories (this is different from Steins;Gate's multiple continuities type), where whatever happened with the past, future and all time travels in between are already written before and could not be prevented, even if they end up creating a distortion in cause and effect..Loved this episode! But i still don't get one thing though and that's, why did she sacrifice herself in the first place? I mean there had to be one time in a different past where she'd sacrifice herself without Hakaze going back in time and telling her about the future, right? AuronPond said: i like this analysis.. it brings out more meaning to the episode and to the series as a whole..Something outlined in this episode that no one has seemed to point out yet is that Aika is the one following logic. Hakaze is the one trying to disrupt it. If I recall correctly, the power of the Kusaribe clan works only if it follows the logic of the world. So, in a sense, the moment she decided to go back in time, Hakaze was predetermined and destined to lose this fight. Even if she was confirmed to be stronger than Aika, she was going to lose. Because she is not following the logic set for her, the end result was bound to be the same. Aika fought knowing this, which shows her intelligence, able to exceed that of time and space. Another interesting point is Aika's description of the Magic of Exodus. They draw power directly from the tree. Their power is basically always greater than that of the Kusaribe clan. Whereas the Tree of Genesis gives power under the false pretense of control, the Tree of Exodus gives full reign without cause. To summarize, it's like the lifelong battle between Assassins and Templars. Whereas the Templars seek control in order to establish peace, the Assasins believe that freedom is more important than peace itself. Subjectively, neither side is right or wrong. Philosophical meaning like that is what makes the series so good. Things made sense long before the anime even reached this point, but the series masked it quite well. |
argiliumMar 7, 2013 6:07 PM
| This show is just straight up amazing. When Aika was revealed to be the Mage of Exodus I was guessing that she'd either kill herself or let Hakaze kill her, but even though it wasn't far off from what I thought, the execution was just incredibly well done. When Hakaze ran back to see Aika and then ran to the Fuwa family grave, I actually felt like I could've cried. The death of one person allowing everything to happen. Although using time travel to tie everything together is a bit akin to cheating, the plot is great. Love this episode. But it does look like the next episode will be quite tumultuous. |
Blackice15 said: This is just a theory and i'm probably completely wrong, however. As was seen with Aika's Sword and multiple other weapons that her power might be able to create objects.With this power could it be possible that she faked her death and in turn had the Tree of Exodus awaken the second mage in an attempt to fool the Tree of Genesis. Thus allowing her to move more freely or plan an unexpected attack on the Tree of Genesis. I'm hoping that something like this happens. Aika doesn't have to die, so long as Yoshino, Mahiro, and the rest of the world think she has died--the events can proceed just as well. Further to that, didn't we have suspicion cast on Yoshino of being the mage of exodus because Hanemura has the power, but not the heart of the mage? If anyone has the heart, it is Aika. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: one thing im looking foreword to is that shit looks like its going to go very wrong next episode for our characters Right! Next week looks sooooo good. |
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| Just what I expected. Aika killed herself... but the revelations still kinda caught me off guard. I really wonder what kind of time paradox happened in the present. Hanemura seems to be beating up our main characters in the next ep. |
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rodac said: Blackice15 said: This is just a theory and i'm probably completely wrong, however. As was seen with Aika's Sword and multiple other weapons that her power might be able to create objects.With this power could it be possible that she faked her death and in turn had the Tree of Exodus awaken the second mage in an attempt to fool the Tree of Genesis. Thus allowing her to move more freely or plan an unexpected attack on the Tree of Genesis. I'm hoping that something like this happens. Aika doesn't have to die, so long as Yoshino, Mahiro, and the rest of the world think she has died--the events can proceed just as well. Further to that, didn't we have suspicion cast on Yoshino of being the mage of exodus because Hanemura has the power, but not the heart of the mage? If anyone has the heart, it is Aika. @Blackice15 Your theory reminds me of Steins;Gate. @rodac Well, if she didn't died then Hanemura would never inherit the power of Exodus. Yoshino is still suspicious to me. >__> Overall the episode was great =D Aika went falcon punch on Hakaze for pushing Yoshino emotion. >__> Hakaze just went emo. Aika sacrifice herself for Yoshino and Mahiro, because the world would be destroy in 10 years. Aika is the detective, victim and the murderer. |
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| Wow, this episode might have just changed my perspective on this entire series. I can't say it was all unexpected, but the way it was all presented was amazing. I've been enjoying the series up till now, but I never really felt myself truly engrossed in it. I was definitely in that category of people who found the series somewhat pretentious (sorry, but I do still find some of the Shakespeare quotes a bit excessive and pretentious), and I did find some of the storytelling kind of awkward, but I felt that the storytelling in this episode was fantastic and made everything come together. |
| WHOA...that's how her (Aika's) name is written? The characters in her name could directly translate to "Unbreakable Love Flower" or something....which surprisingly is very fitting of her. But yeah....wow....Aika dies to ultimately cause Hakaze to go against the Tree.... Gawd I'm feeling so sad for Yoshino (ok ok & Mahiro) now..... I'm probably gonna wait & marathon the last 3 eps now cuz we've kinda reached that sort of 'climax' of it all....I mean...all they gotta do now is Deal with it and beat up that tree. |
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| Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. |
lonelydemon said: Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. It's the same problem with Terminator, about John Conor's father being from the future. I guess thats its the same, when you travel back in time you erase the previous version of the story in that case being Aika getting killed by someone else. I kinda found it dumb that they never really reveal the real killer though :/ |
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| There couldn't have been a past where some1else killed Aika, remember past cannot be change. |
| In that case how does she die in the original universe ? I dont see a reason for her to kill herself. |
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| Well then the same reason, Hakaze went to the past also. It's like an infinite loop sorry can't explain in details. |
| This is so fucked up o_o |
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| aika = instant top 10 char p.s. to all the people who say it was predictable, you are all full of sh*t. i can predict that you will doe; however, what happens in between? the details is what is important. try writing your own story and you'll soon realize how hard it is to come up with the meat of the story. |
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Tsukuyomi-Ryuku said: lonelydemon said: Something is not right though, with this time travel I don't get it. Fuwa Aika wouldn't have died if Hakaze didn't go back in the past. So does this mean there was a past where Fuwa Aika killed herself even if Hakaze didn't travel in the past? WTF that wouldn't make sense though cuz no one can change the past. I don't know how to explain well, what I don't understand but I hope someone will understand what Im trying to say here and clear things up for me thank you. It's the same problem with Terminator, about John Conor's father being from the future. I guess thats its the same, when you travel back in time you erase the previous version of the story in that case being Aika getting killed by someone else. I kinda found it dumb that they never really reveal the real killer though :/ think of a line. time flows in a line. aika dies in point A. hakaze begins time traveling in point B to go backwards to point A. however, note that they are all along the same plane, the same line. on this line, hakaze will always travel back to point A no matter what. after she's done that, point C is available and time moves forward. or in other terms, the mission must be completed before the gods, the author, whatever, allows us to proceed to point C. no time travel = no available next point. |
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Serge91 said: No, it doesn't need to have one. It depends on theory of time. You can check on some physic and philosophical books. That's why I mentioned they weren't necessarily following the conventional theory. I do realize there are different theories of time. |
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| I seriously love how this show is executed so well! Good job Bones! :) Aika is such an awesome character. The way she talks and acts is so damn mysterious and cute. She's also insanely powerful. Hakaze stood no chance against her. Aika gets stronger when items are offered to the Tree of Genesis, oh wow. xD I really liked how Aika got so angry and punched Hakaze when she mentioned Yoshino was crying. Man, I feel so sorry for Hakaze. That moment when Hakaze sees Yoshino running to Aika's place after hearing about her death was so sad. D: |
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| think of a line. time flows in a line. aika dies in point A. hakaze begins time traveling in point B to go backwards to point A. however, note that they are all along the same plane, the same line. on this line, hakaze will always travel back to point A no matter what. after she's done that, point C is available and time moves forward. or in other terms, the mission must be completed before the gods, the author, whatever, allows us to proceed to point C. no time travel = no available next point. Make sense but what about b4 point A from the very first point, what was the cause of Aika's Death, I know i ain't making sense here. |
xtremexx said: Aika doing what needs to be done like a boss. She didn't even care that much that she died. One of my fave characters. True,mine too. Ever since Erza Scarlet ( Fairy Tail ) , Fuwa Aika somehow, very interesting. |
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| the second half of this episode was definitely the better one. i loved the fight between aika and hakaze. it really made me love aika. but i still don't like that aika was willing to kill herself so easily. it does make sense, yes, but... i don't know. and i haven't watched the preview for the next episode (i don't like spoilers), but reading these comments here makes it look like things are not going well in the present? well, three more episodes to go! |
| I really liked the part where she punched Hakaze for making yoshino cry, really kind of made you realize just how much she cared for him. I loved this episode. |
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| Aika my fav ♥ |
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| epic episode. Aika and hakaze. <3 |
| Come on, people are mad at the time travel of this episode? This theory has been used a lot, like in Chrono Trigger and Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu, it's a pretty cool mindfuck. And finally the plot got truly back on track, awesomely btw, I even raised the score back to 9. I see what they were trying to do in episodes 13 to 19, but that dragged for too long, seriously. In the manga it must be even worse, since it's longer. |
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| I see my hunch back in the Ep 10~13 was correct about Aika killing herself. The fight between the two was prtty nice. It was nice to actually see some fighting. Been a while since we were shown any actual scenes. I found Aika's personality was quite fun too, when she was playing detective. |
| Just... amazing characterization and development in an episode. I love it when I can't side between two arguments. It simply means that they're worthy enough to fight for. Great episode. |
| Wow this has been the best ep of this show. At least my time travel idea was correct, but I didn't expect it to go down like that. I wonder how the others will react to this news. |
| The fight was very one sided I thought it would have went down to the finish. I enjoyed this episode overall and its the best one so far. Stitches327 said: Also am i the only one that thought Aika's sword looked like one of the Di-Swords from Chaos;Head? Nope it reminded me of Chaos Head too. |
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| There are tons I want to say, but I will just put it in one sentence. Aika was simply awesome. |
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| Aika is one peculiar girl... I'm not quite sure I like her, as she seems to care little for life and the people living it while Hakaze act more emotional and in-tune with humanity, a trait I prefer over Aika's aloofness. That set aside, the power gap between Aika and Hakaze was so much bigger than expected. Hakaze was getting her ass kicked by a self-taught mage despite having received training since she was little. It was weird, to say the least. I liked the end of the episode though, where Hakaze sees Mahiro in the window and Yoshino ran past her. |
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| Possibly one of the favourite episodes so far. I feel sad after watching Hakaze sad. :c |
| No doubt that Hakaze has better boobs than Aika, although Fraulein had the best. But Aika gave it her best and I actually now like her more than Hakaze. 5/5 Epic, made me shed a tear. |
| it was ok. |
| I usually don't like time travel - it all to often just seems like the writer just wanted to play logic and paradox games. Here I was fine with the way it worked out. And, in any case, I haven't written off Aiko yet. |
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| Great episode.Aika became my favourite female character of the anime now.I still like Hakaze but after this one, I can say for sure that she is a great character. |
| The episode was great as always, it turned out to be as I expected but it was executed in a good way so I'm ok with it. Now let's see what happens next week |
 "Can you feel that hybrid rainbow?" |
| I just realize that Aika is much taller than Hakaze then if you Aika and Yoshino side by side Yoshino is much taller than Aika. Then Hakaze must be... really small |
temporary said: wait.....the series turned to shit after they made a JOKE about how its aliens......are you fucking kidding me?This series turned to complete shit after the mention of aliens. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Amazing episode. Aika's character is getting more and more interesting with each episode. Lol at the punch she gave to Hakaze (poor Hakaze though, she didn't deserve that), their fight overall was awesome. |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
| This episode was great, an epic fight between Hakaze and Aika and the explaination of what happened to her made it the best episode so far. This anime is getting really good. |
| Not the best episode in terms of plot, but this was probably one of my favorites in this series. I guess it's because of the attachment I felt for the characters and their bonds is what made me like this episode so much even though the events were somewhat predictable. |
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| Part of me is hoping Aika somehow reappears and makes it to present time with everyone. But the other part of me knows how unlikely that is. |
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