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Jul 12, 2008 10:42 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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"Tragic Hero"

I started to laugh at the same as they did..
xD

But his sister o.o

Gief Match NOW!
Sep 23, 2008 6:08 PM
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that was unperdictable that she was his brother
Oct 24, 2008 4:26 AM
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I ve always suspected that she was Miyata s sister, looks like I ve been proven wrong.
And lol@ Takamura with the phone in his hand.
Nov 27, 2008 6:58 AM
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The only reason I had figured out that she was his sister was because it said her name as Mashiba in the credits. It was interesting to see him at home. He seemed like he was mostly putting up the same front there as he does in and around the ring. I almost expected him to be a nice softy at home with his sister.
Jan 1, 2009 3:09 AM
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I didn't know Mashiba had it things going for him like that, but I still hope Ippo buries that fool.
Jan 9, 2009 11:58 AM
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So we get a tragic hero + a tragic zombie?

Even so, I still don't like his character, so I'll the hoping Ippo wins! ^_^
(he's the main character and it's an important competition and there's the revenge for the "promise" thing so of course he'll win xD)
Jul 14, 2009 11:46 PM
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I knew she was someone sister, but couldn't see that she'll be Mashiba's D:
Anyway, sure he has a rough background but still want Ippo to beat the crap out of him.
Jul 28, 2009 6:24 AM
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That's a good twist, Ippo has a crush on his rival's sister. They really don't look alike, I guess she must pluck her eyebrows a lot! lol
Aug 13, 2009 12:56 PM
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Mashiba has a sister lol
Takeshi-sanAug 13, 2009 1:00 PM
Aug 25, 2009 9:25 PM

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I was figuring her for Miyata's sister, but I should have realized at the same time that I realized that Mashiba would beat Miyata that she had to be Mashiba's sister.
Sep 10, 2009 12:58 AM

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I had a slight inkling that Mashiba may be related to her but having it revealed just like that was pretty shocking =O Ippo is probably torn inside as to what to do despite his brave front.
Jan 3, 2010 6:37 AM
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I also thought she was Miyata's sister...guess we were proven wrong.
What a surprise that was.
Jul 31, 2010 3:11 AM

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Haha, poor Ippo, the tragic hero. x]
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Dec 5, 2010 2:19 PM

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Oh no you don't... I'm not falling for that... morality pet or no morality pet, wangst or no wangst, he is still a bastard and he still needs to get pulverized... I hope Ippo doesn't forget that...
Feb 27, 2011 12:34 PM

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Wtf? How the hell could she be related to that scumbag? I totally thought it was Miyata's sister.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
May 14, 2011 6:50 AM

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I love it when they gather around reviewing passed fights and brain storming on techniques and strategies which livens the show hehe.. but the most surprising part was the tragic hero.. damn that was a shocker.. i felt really sad for Ippo.. hopefully he can win the heart of that cute chick :-/
Aug 14, 2011 4:06 AM

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^^
Jan 7, 2013 9:01 PM

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So I guess Mashiba isn't a douche. but then why did he want to kill Miyata?
Jun 24, 2013 11:25 PM

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^ No, he's still a jerk. I'm sorry, but I'm totally not buying the whole "tough background" excuse. Lots of people have hard lives but still choose not to break the law, cheat, and purposely harm other people. Ippo needs to crush him, I have no sympathy

Oct 9, 2013 11:22 PM

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Mashiba's bg story is kinda sad but I'm still rooting for Ippo

Dec 23, 2013 12:19 AM

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Well, I was close. I thought it was Miyata's sister. I was half right.
Dec 25, 2013 11:28 AM

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Now I feel bad for all I writted :(

But the scene where they were laughing at Ippo was hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing! xD
«Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.»
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Feb 13, 2014 2:54 AM

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Good thinking, Ippo. Friendship >>>>>>>>>>>> Love (dumb girl)

Being with Mashiba's sister will just make you more dumb
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Apr 6, 2014 11:37 PM

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Great twist.
Apr 18, 2014 7:09 PM
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meh not sure why they needed that twist for but ok....hope ippo still beats the crap out of him
Aug 7, 2014 6:13 PM

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Oh man that last part was hilarious! But damn that sure is a nice character twist, interesting and well I do wonder what Ippo will do now, I did not expect such relation development to be honest! Let's see what's next though.
Jul 2, 2015 9:17 AM

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I didn't expect that, I thought the girl would be Miyata's sister just like everyone did!
I loved how they elaborated more on Myshima's background, absorbing my huge hate towards him. I won't say I like him now but I hate him less, maybe feel sorry for him.

Thank you Takamura and team for adding laughs on heavy episodes XD
Jul 28, 2015 8:20 AM
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Excellent comedies and characters development. Mashiba's background story was a nice touch to the story but I STILL cannot FORGIVE him for cheating against Miyata-kun. I hope IPPO kick his ass.
Aug 26, 2015 3:54 AM

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Alas86 said:
Oh no you don't... I'm not falling for that... morality pet or no morality pet, wangst or no wangst, he is still a bastard and he still needs to get pulverized... I hope Ippo doesn't forget that...

^This. I dislike it when stories try to justify that actions of a character who deserves to be disliked by giving us a pity backstory.
Sep 20, 2015 8:50 PM

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This girl's seiyuu has some really good hentai potential tbf.
Oct 31, 2015 9:25 AM
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wow she's his sister. I didn't see that one coming. This should be a VERY interesting match.
Nov 24, 2015 11:44 PM
Ceasefire NOW

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xD Of all the girls he could have fallen for, he has a crush on his scariest enemy.
Jan 19, 2016 7:56 PM

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Good twist, making Mashiba more sympathetic.
I don't know if there even will be romance in this series.
Mar 18, 2016 11:04 AM

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What a shocker. I really thought that the girl will be Miyata's GF or little sister. Was suprised to know that she was Mashiba's sister. Anyway, I really like Takamura and his gang. They always make fun of Ippo.
Apr 6, 2016 6:13 AM

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The twist was well placed, nice to see more motivation behind Ryo's actions. He's the Kevin Owens of this show. Not really a nice guy, but cynical because he has to be in order to provide for him and his sister.

I REMEMBER TOUCH. PICTURES CAME WITH TOUCH. A PAINTER IN MY MIND.
Apr 6, 2016 6:16 AM

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Avenger-senpai said:
Alas86 said:
Oh no you don't... I'm not falling for that... morality pet or no morality pet, wangst or no wangst, he is still a bastard and he still needs to get pulverized... I hope Ippo doesn't forget that...

^This. I dislike it when stories try to justify that actions of a character who deserves to be disliked by giving us a pity backstory.
It's not unrealistic though tbh. He may lose some heel heat, but he's still a dick nonetheless.

I REMEMBER TOUCH. PICTURES CAME WITH TOUCH. A PAINTER IN MY MIND.
Apr 27, 2017 11:41 AM

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What a twist I who would have thought she was his sister, amazing their sorrowful past makes it even better.
Sep 5, 2017 4:38 PM
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I started to feel bad for mashibo but not much since this entire time he has been a psycho trying over the top to legit ruin others for no reason
Sep 5, 2017 4:40 PM
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dj22319 said:
The twist was well placed, nice to see more motivation behind Ryo's actions. He's the Kevin Owens of this show. Not really a nice guy, but cynical because he has to be in order to provide for him and his sister.


nah he makes no sense because its not like I see that kinda drive when He was trying to legit kill miyata when he was already down,having bad circumstances doesent take away from the fact that he is psychotic
Nov 1, 2017 3:31 AM
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lol I thought that girl was miyata's sister.
Apr 27, 2018 5:13 PM

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Ippo dissed her brother. Now he's definitely not gonna get laid. Poor kid.

May 25, 2018 6:57 AM

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They are a bit late with the tragic backstory. After this guy has been made out to be the freaking devil incarnate, I really can't empathise with him. Go, Ippo! I liked the teasing of the others in this episode. I think this might be going a bit too far if this was real life, even as a joke between friends, but it's hilarious nonetheless! Will Ippo ever learn to stop giving them reasons to tease him? Probably not. But that's why we love him! :P

I am hyped for the fight! And also interested to see whether the imouto love story will still be a thing after the results of the match.
Nov 10, 2018 7:06 PM

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Lmao. No wonder she ain't cute. She's related to Mashiba xD

I thought she was Miyata's lil sis and got the short end of the stick with them genes, but she was actually LUCKY bc she could've looked like Mashiba-- right up Aoki's alley tho lmfao *barf*

Idc about their sob sibling story. You reap what you sow and cheaters never prosper, so BYE BETCHESSSSSSS.
Nov 15, 2018 6:26 AM

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"Like I'd lose to that guy"
Ah I see.. He just said a famous word before they lost

That was like the worst, to fall in love with Mashiba's lil sis xD
Oh Ippo.. that was like that last time, you go to seek "advice" to Takamura and said similar thing :P

I guess Mashiba's heart has been broken for too many times
I feel bad for lil sis though.. seems like Mashiba too worried about society and money, he forgot to look at his sis' worried face
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Apr 24, 2019 9:17 PM
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Man this show is amazing last episode I wanted Ippo to destroy Mashiba, and now I want Mashiba to win.
Jun 13, 2019 2:57 AM

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Never expected bakery girl to be Mashima's sister.

"why does everyone see my brother as villain"
Just maybe, hypothetical speaking, he stepped on his opponents feet full intentional and went full ballistic on him in a match where the opponent almost won, just maybe...

Jan 10, 2020 1:54 PM

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I was expecting she to be Mashiba sister but I can't understand how they’re so different xD. Jokes aside, despite anything, I still can’t like him, but everything can change.
Jan 11, 2020 8:14 AM

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I still hate mashiba
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Jan 22, 2020 6:41 PM

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I'll have to say that the last thing I'd expect was for a cutie like her to actually be Mashiba's little sister. It'll definitely bring up an inner conflict on whether he should destroy the man who unfairly crushed his best friend's dreams or not but at least she's become the one thing that'll stand between Ippo and him being a monster.

Being desperate enough to want to win in order to support your little sister to the point of most likely cheating to get there is still scummy even if you do have an admittedly sad background. Miyata has aspirations and a cause to live for too, you know. While his cheating can't be justified, other people's treatment towards him at work aren't justified either.








Oct 1, 2020 11:21 AM
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That's a good twist, Ippo has a crush on his rival's sister.
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