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Urahara62 said: To me, the most obvious choice seems to be Yukiko. Her entire story in the game was so wrapped up in her crush on Souji anyways.. SL =/= canon, bro Urahara62 said: The other choice would be to favor nobody, but don't see that happening. Actually, that will be the most likely thing to happen. Wanna bet on it? You get a free cookie if you win and a kidney punch if I win? My personal choice is Naoto~! Most adorable character ever. But I hope they're planning Kanji X Naoto instead. They were both my favorite characters, and they're so adorable together. Talk about perfect? Yup, her tomboy aspect is much more endearing than miss. Steak methinks... As for Kanji x Naoto, it's a one-sided crush? I always find it amazing to see how characters get paired up out of nowhere. One-sided crushes are interpreted as reciprocal, hating each other = tsundere love, help somebody up when they fall = romance, getting pubic labia to the face = romance, someone says hi to you = oh gosh she's, lyk, totally in love with MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH!!!, etc & yadda yadda... No wonder otak(s) are forever alone for being overly optimistic and disillusioned.... But I digress... And Rise's forever alone, I guess. Well, if it's within the group that is composed of a derp & narcissistic bear who lives in the human world for several months yet unable to understand what "laid" means or he knows yet purposefully does it anyway cuz he's a horny ass, a homophobic closet (bad word) named Yusuke, and a poor sexually confused Kanji whose sexual disorder worsened from being abused by the closet (bad word) Yusuke... then yes, there's no choice besides the MC who, unsurprisingly, stood out as the most appealing guy, unlike P3 where competition is rather high... But outside that circle then I'm sure she has hot studs like Akihiko standing in line just to ask her out on a daily basis so yep, "forever alone" in this case is quite rubbish... lyim said: Last I checked, the only one spouting off about being in love with Yu in the ending scene is Rise... Lovers Arcana and in game love elements that are not related to the social link. Plus that +50% SP item. The only other person that has a chance is Yukiko, which, I hope they go for, just for one of those awkward scenes you get when you're chasing after two girls and they run into one another. Finally somebody who can understand the difference between SL and actual plot ^^ Mod edit: Removed naughty words. |
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| Personally I think all the Support that exists for Kanji x Naoto is because of the aspect of "Masculine looking man, with feminine hobbies... (potentially gay... I'd say he's Bi XD), and "Female with a masculine personality" it's an interesting dynamic I guess, but at the same time there is like no interaction between them except for when she questions Kanji. In general I think people just like the entire cast to not be alone like, they'll go, Yosuke x Chie, hmm Kanji x Naoto.... then Yu/Souji x (One of remaining girls)... to be honest I really don't care what happens.... go Adachi x Saki 8-) XD |
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| Well, i went with rise before so I vote for her |
| I'm thinking no one. It does seem like they're going to pair off Yosuke and Chie though. |
| Hopefully it will be no one to keep everyone happy, or probably a harem end. But I'll go with Yosuke for the bromance! |
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| I hope it's no one, that way no one is disappointed... But I don't mind if he gets together with one of the girls, as long as it's not Rise (I just can't stand her, I've no idea why). |
| Well, Naoto was introduced so late in the game that she barely had any interaction with anyone. I kinda like Naoto/Kanji though, just because it's way too funny. |
| Harem end. Because Bro-logic: Why choose, when you can have them all? |
| I would prefer him to end up with Rise, but Chie is better suited for him |
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| Naoto, because Souji is the calm, smart, cool type. And the other girls could never keep up with that. Also because Yukiko and Chie both need to stay in Inaba, and Rise goes back to showbiz. But Naoto isn't from Inaba so she's free to go back to Tokyo or wherever with Souji. Also they're cute together and Naoto has the best social link, where Souji actually goes between her and a man with a knife. Such a hero! So romantic! ^^ |
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| the one from drama club . forgot her name , it's either 'maria' , 'ozawa', or 'miyabi' , forgot which one was her name. i only remembered that her name resemble a porn star |
azzyzx said: the one from drama club . forgot her name , it's either 'maria' , 'ozawa', or 'miyabi' , forgot which one was her name. i only remembered that her name resemble a porn star Yumi Ozawa. There are wikis for everything these days. :D Including MegaTen games.  |
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| I think it would be Rise or Yukiko or just no one. Chie and Yosuke are probably just friends of Yu And since Kanji has a crush on Naoto. I don't think Yu would date her. Ai could also be a possibly too but Yu doesn't seem to have a lot of interest in her. I'd also like to see Yu with Yumi but since she had only a small background role, I don't think that would happen. A harem ending would be funny too. |
MonochromeMoon said: I think it would be Rise or Yukiko or just no one. Chie and Yosuke are probably just friends of Yu And since Kanji has a crush on Naoto. I don't think Yu would date her. Ai could also be a possibly too but Yu doesn't seem to have a lot of interest in her. I'd also like to see Yu with Yumi but since she had only a small background role, I don't think that would happen. A harem ending would be funny too. Kanji has a crush on Naoto the boy, not Naoto the girl. |
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Vinter said: Kanji has a crush on Naoto the boy, not Naoto the girl. Latest episode says otherwise :P Plus, Kanji only liked Naoto "the boy" cause Naoto was the only person to call him "interesting" instead of something negative, which triggered his nervousness around "him". But we all have different ways of perceiving Kanji and Naoto's relationship. |
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RealScreamer said: Vinter said: Kanji has a crush on Naoto the boy, not Naoto the girl. Latest episode says otherwise :P Plus, Kanji only liked Naoto "the boy" cause Naoto was the only person to call him "interesting" instead of something negative, which triggered his nervousness around "him". But we all have different ways of perceiving Kanji and Naoto's relationship. I'm pretty sure Kanji is still gay though. xD |
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Vinter said: I'm pretty sure Kanji is still gay though. xD How so? It's obvious that he's straight, the "gay" Sauna was only symbolism for "not being accepted by anyone". He says it in the game and in the show: "It's not just girls, I'm just afraid of rejection". If you ever completed his social link, there's also his story about a girl he liked rejecting him because he sewed which led him to be the way he is. |
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wingless said: No, I'm pretty sure they left nothing open to interpretation. They only left the Naoto/Kanji subplot open for shipping purposes and because Naoto is more or less the reason Kanji's emotions were haywire and sent into "am I gay" territory back when he was thrown into the TV. There were a lot of hints for Kanji/Naoto. And besides Naoto, Kanji never really goes beyond the "best friends" part with anyone else. Even his Social Link is just about him being a mama's boy and his love for sewing and helping kids and such.Kanji x Naoto Chie x Yukiko Yosuke x his hand so that leaves Rise. also don't start the "is Kanji gay" thing again, the creators left it open to interpretation on purpose. |
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wingless said: "We would like everyone to play through the game and come up with their own answers to that question; there is no official answer," quoted from here. the whole point of his character was that Kanji was Kanji whether he liked dudes or not. I don't know how so many people miss this, it's not like the game wasa subtle about it, or anything else. They had him say he's just afraid of getting rejected by both genders, implying he's not afraid of girls and is not gay. With this logic, Rise wanted to be a stripper, Yukiko wanted to be a bird and so on. Plus, in the ending of them realizing what the Midnight channel really was, it's more clear that he wasn't and people were PERCEIVING him to be one which made him look questionable and question himself. This whole "gay" thing, is all just symbolism, as was all the others. Kanji's can't be the only one that's "Real" or whatever. You can't just leave people to decide whether or not a character is gay. As that is not a choice, same as real life gays, which would have made the game more offending if so. Regardless of what was quoted the creators tease the fandom too much, so I really don't care what they say, and only believe what was in the game and what they put in it. Plus, if you believe in what they said, then it is okay for people to discuss whether he was or not, because "we came up with our own answers as to what is cannon". The anime seems to be shipping him and Naoto anyway. |
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wingless said: you very well can leave characters' sexuality ambiguous, it's not offensive at all. many, many things are left open ended throughout all types of fiction, it's a common technique. for the record, i don't believe Kanji is gay (though it certainly would be cool if he was), i just think people who are go at it constantly over whether he is or not are missing the point. yes, he likes naoto. now, you could argue that he likes naoto the boy, or naoto the girl, or you know, just naoto. this black and white thinking that plagues so many people's minds really needs to go. you are free to think he is straight, but thinking he is gay is no less valid because when you get down to it it doesn't affect his character at all. Yes, it can be offensive. Many people don't choose to be gay, and saying fans can choose to make a character gay is, I'm not even gay and I'm pretty offended with that. Wasn't saying you thought he was gay or not, lol. Just implying, there is no evidence that he is besides his shadow making it so. Yes I see the point, BUT there is too many signs that the "Creators" put in the game that he isn't - Thinking logically. I understand that well enough to know that it doesn't affect the character, but it gets annoying when people actually gloss over the fact that a character says that he isn't, time and time again. And just want to label him as so. Seeing as this is getting off topic, I will end it here.. Pretty surprising how Rise caught up to Yukiko in this poll...Weird how "Harem end" is being chosen more than Chie, as she is popular... |
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RealScreamer said: With this logic, Rise wanted to be a stripper, Yukiko wanted to be a bird and so on. Everyone's shadow self is their real self. It's just a part of them that they're trying to repress. Kanji's gay shadow is a part of him that he's trying to repress. A lot of gay people are afraid of coming out of the closet, so they say they're not gay and refuse to be honest with themselves, which is sad. It has nothing to do with the fighting form of the shadow. Rise wanted to show her real self instead of the fictional idol Risette, and Yukiko wanted to be free. Since she was feeling like a bird locked in a cage because her life had already been decided for her. (inheriting the Amagi inn) |
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Vinter said: Everyone's shadow self is their real self. It's just a part of them that they're trying to repress. Kanji's gay shadow is a part of him that he's trying to repress. A lot of gay people are afraid of coming out of the closet, so they say they're not gay and refuse to be honest with themselves, which is sad. It has nothing to do with the fighting form of the shadow. Rise wanted to show her real self instead of the fictional idol Risette, and Yukiko wanted to be free. Since she was feeling like a bird locked in a cage because her life had already been decided for her. (inheriting the Amagi inn) The shadow self was proven to be something people perceived when they were explaining the midnight channel during Namatame's arc. *spoiler*-> The gay in itself is symbolism for rejection, as most gays are afraid of being rejected from society for being the way they are.... When "Accepting his trueself" - he said he's afraid of rejection from both genders not "he likes guys". If he keeps on denying being gay, then would he have obtained his persona? I mean, he kept on saying "that's not it". Exactly what the stripping meant, and the bird in the cage meant. It was all symbolism, the symbolism in Kanji just happened to be "gay" and people take it over the top and see it much "simpler" when it's more than just "that. But as said, you can believe what you want, I will do the same, don't want to get this thread completely off topic... |
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RealScreamer said: Your first paragraph is an extremely high spoiler for anime-only watchers or people who haven't played that far btw, but yeah, once you learn the truth of the Midnight Channel the whole "I am your other self" falls apart. Shadows are not your "real self", that's about all I'll say. The less spoiler-filled version is, as Real Screamer said, Shadows are symbolic. Whenever you earned a Persona you earned a "mask to face life's hardships". In other words, Personae and Shadows are part of you but they are not the real you. You wouldn't call them masks if they were the real you. They are masks because they help you face the world, like you have to sometimes be someone else (like say Kanji's rough attitude, or Rise's idol image) in order to do what the world demands of you.Vinter said: Everyone's shadow self is their real self. It's just a part of them that they're trying to repress. Kanji's gay shadow is a part of him that he's trying to repress. A lot of gay people are afraid of coming out of the closet, so they say they're not gay and refuse to be honest with themselves, which is sad. It has nothing to do with the fighting form of the shadow. Rise wanted to show her real self instead of the fictional idol Risette, and Yukiko wanted to be free. Since she was feeling like a bird locked in a cage because her life had already been decided for her. (inheriting the Amagi inn) The gay in itself is symbolism for rejection, as most gays are afraid of being rejected from society for being the way they are.... When "Accepting his trueself" - he said he's afraid of rejection from both genders not "he likes guys". If he keeps on denying being gay, then would he have obtained his persona? I mean, he kept on saying "that's not it". Exactly what the stripping meant, and the bird in the cage meant. It was all symbolism, the symbolism in Kanji just happened to be "gay" and people take it over the top and see it much "simpler" when it's more than just "that. But as said, you can believe what you want, I will do the same, don't want to get this thread completely off topic... |
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Leon-Gun said: RealScreamer said: Your first paragraph is an extremely high spoiler for anime-only watchers or people who haven't played that far btw, but yeah, once you learn the truth of the Midnight Channel the whole "I am your other self" falls apart. Shadows are not your "real self", that's about all I'll say. The less spoiler-filled version is, as Real Screamer said, Shadows are symbolic. Whenever you earned a Persona you earned a "mask to face life's hardships". In other words, Personae and Shadows are part of you but they are not the real you. You wouldn't call them masks if they were the real you. They are masks because they help you face the world, like you have to sometimes be someone else (like say Kanji's rough attitude, or Rise's idol image) in order to do what the world demands of you.Vinter said: Everyone's shadow self is their real self. It's just a part of them that they're trying to repress. Kanji's gay shadow is a part of him that he's trying to repress. A lot of gay people are afraid of coming out of the closet, so they say they're not gay and refuse to be honest with themselves, which is sad. It has nothing to do with the fighting form of the shadow. Rise wanted to show her real self instead of the fictional idol Risette, and Yukiko wanted to be free. Since she was feeling like a bird locked in a cage because her life had already been decided for her. (inheriting the Amagi inn) The gay in itself is symbolism for rejection, as most gays are afraid of being rejected from society for being the way they are.... When "Accepting his trueself" - he said he's afraid of rejection from both genders not "he likes guys". If he keeps on denying being gay, then would he have obtained his persona? I mean, he kept on saying "that's not it". Exactly what the stripping meant, and the bird in the cage meant. It was all symbolism, the symbolism in Kanji just happened to be "gay" and people take it over the top and see it much "simpler" when it's more than just "that. But as said, you can believe what you want, I will do the same, don't want to get this thread completely off topic... The real self is many parts, but that doesn't change that the person is ONE of these parts. An aspect of the self. |
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| Hmm.. i think Chie or Rise will fit with MC.. although i will choose Yukiko if not for that cute? laugh of her.. ^_^' |
| I like to think that Kanji is not gay. Am I homofobic? Far from it. I just think it is much more interesting for him to be straight but to like things that are commonly associated with women than for him to be just gay. That would kill his importance to the series as a whole. |
| What? Of course it's Yukiko. And no for tha lesbong matter. Her and Chie, it's only friendship. What's wrong with girl n girl frienship and bro to bro brothership? rabid fans tend to exaggerating the relationship into yuri and or damn yaoi. It also has been implied in the game. Search for yeself, if you like to do it. But if you keep avoiding the Truth--Protagonist/Yu x Yukiko, you will never see it. Just like Igor said. |
Miya_F_Exia said: I like to think that Kanji is not gay. Am I homofobic? Far from it. I just think it is much more interesting for him to be straight but to like things that are commonly associated with women than for him to be just gay. That would kill his importance to the series as a whole. I don't think Kanji is gay. There are manly guys who enjoy cute things. Like guys who watch K-ON.....I am not one of them. |
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| I like that it seems that, despite the arguments for Kanji being either gay or straight, no one seems to put forth the many other possibilities. He could be bisexual, or pansexual, or something completely different. Ultimately, we're never given an answer, and arguing over it is silly because of that; no one can find the truth, no matter how much they reach out to it. |
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| Naoto of course ._. they both are identical, always have issues in common, in the anime gave VERY focused on couple (I'm happy with that, because is the best SL for me, she's so cute <3) they complete more than any other oh yeah, the best: the producer said in Twitter his favorite couple was Naoto x Souji and independent, the couple is more popular in japan, it weighs A LOT :] |
| Chie~! I really like her and Yu after the Kings game part. Its really cute XD |
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| As Yukiko is a terrible person when you take a closer look at her in the game in her social link, i can't understand why would anyone want to see that. Rise on the other hand is awesome in so many levels that there is really no competition there. |
| Old thread but still. Just for those wondering about Rise's supposed going out with Kanji. Think back to her S. Link. At the end she says 'I've never been with a boy like this before' or something similar (I don't remember the exact words) so we can rule that out. Personally I've been seeing the recurring theme of MC x Lovers x Aeon, so with Marie in the picture now, this is surely canon. |
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| Rise. No contest. |
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