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May 17, 2008 4:25 PM
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isnt it stupid how the ppl in the sub died by lack of air, yer revy and rock dont need oxygen, and just breathe?
Sep 6, 2008 2:39 AM
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CO2 build up, over time the plants may have replaced the air so its not that odd........ besides its an anime dude lol
Sep 17, 2008 10:38 PM
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It's anime dude. LOL! :3

And to think that they didn't because of lack of oxygen, they had a gunfight right? So they've stopped breathing when there's still oxygen left.
Nov 6, 2008 3:02 PM
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I don't know about you guys but to me this was probably the worst episode of Black Laggon so far. I don't remember anything good happening except for that little gunfight in the last minute or so. Hopefully it gets better.
Dec 1, 2008 7:56 PM
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I guess you're right, but sometimes an in depth story can also be interesting instead of non-stop action xD, next episode will most likely make up for it =]
Dec 14, 2008 12:33 PM
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ixidor125 said:

isnt it stupid how the ppl in the sub died by lack of air, yer revy and rock dont need oxygen, and just breathe?

I thought that too. Saying, "its just an anime" doesn't cut it imo either. All writers should strive for some sort of consistency in their stories. If the writer sets the story in our world then they have a certain obligation to follow the laws of physics. If they wish to set the story in a fantasy world that is another story (example; Full Metal Alchemist, Star Wars).

I, however, thought of a couple things that would allow oxygen to exist in the sub. Firstly, it is possible that all the crew committed suicide before dying of carbon dioxide poisoning. Secondly, the crew of the sub would not have died because of a lack of oxygen, they would have died because of an abundance of CO2 which is poisonous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercapnia). Point is there would still be quite a bit of Oxygen left. Clearly, enough to allow bacteria to decay the bodies. If the vessel had CO2 scrubbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_lime), or some plants survived (unlikely) then perhaps without people using a large portion of it CO2 levels were brought back to normal. I don't think it is likely that plants survived (I didn't see any in the anime, but I wasn't really watching) as they wouldn't have a supply of fresh water.

Anyway, minor nitpick. I think this is a good anime. This episode had a good speech by Remy.



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Jan 7, 2009 2:21 PM
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I also was thinking about the oxygen thing the whole time as well
also, interesting to know that Revy is Chinese...


Jan 15, 2009 10:18 AM
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Hmm, I'm not too sure either about the submarine situation but I'm intrigued so I'll have to check and see if it was actually possible to breathe down there.

Didn't expect to get 3 straight episodes of Nazi's though, next episode is going to be fun. =D
Mar 13, 2009 6:21 PM
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the gunfight was good, that i guess we also got a look at revy's past a little
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Apr 3, 2009 5:26 PM
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I'm loving having nazis as villains in shows again!

Revy's voice is so cool. The speech she did was also very good and served as a bit of character development.
Haha now the crew are angry, time for revenge.

Jul 9, 2009 9:33 PM
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Yet another great episode and I liked getting more information on Revy's past now if only we could learn more about Dutch and Benny. Also, you have to love Revy threatening Rock if he used the story as blackmail.
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Jul 18, 2009 10:06 PM

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ManU-Alchemist said:
I don't know about you guys but to me this was probably the worst episode of Black Laggon so far. I don't remember anything good happening except for that little gunfight in the last minute or so. Hopefully it gets better.


I don't know how character development is a bad thing. Frankly I enjoyed the scene where Revy revealed a little about her past. I've also enjoyed the flash backs and things like that, it's always cool when a show you thought was going to be constant mindless action actually has a story to it.

So, it definetly wasn't a bad episode. Hell No.
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Jul 20, 2009 12:12 PM

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background story on revy, its nice to know more about her past and the reasons why she does what she does.
I also liked the way she told her past. the dubs were alright, though i liked the japanese dialect better for her story.

it seems like revy has finally had enough of rock's whining on the next ep. looking forward to it.
Aug 7, 2009 6:15 PM

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I really don't know what to say about this episode. Everyone is criticizing the oxygen story. It didn't bother my that much, and i actually think this episode was very funny from the begining till the end (the stupid nazis singing their song and crying)... and Revy's speech also looked good... but i can't wait to see some REAL ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 22, 2009 8:57 PM

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The oxygen part really got on my nerves and Rock is pretty much useless...just gets in the way...
Oct 15, 2009 3:58 PM

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Good to see me and a few others I watched this episode with weren't the only ones wondering about the oxygen situation. Pretty good episode either way.
Dec 1, 2009 12:30 AM

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The oxygen bit didn't really bother me, i thought it was odd but whatev.
Good ep anyway, im looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Jan 7, 2010 7:24 PM
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Revy is Chinese?? Nice :D
Apr 4, 2010 4:14 AM

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They're nazis and they cried like babies, that's kind of ridiculous.
Apr 22, 2010 9:35 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood, but the whole thing about the oxygen running out. Didn't all of the Nazi's die in a firefight prior to running out of oxygen (hence the whole oxygen still being there thing..?)
May 8, 2010 1:51 PM

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lol Nazis.
Jun 24, 2010 5:57 PM

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I wish to see more of Revy's past

Her life must've been horrible
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Jul 4, 2010 4:39 AM

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Favorite episode so far. It's finally getting interesting.
Jul 8, 2010 1:09 AM

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Revy's past is dark. o.o
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Jul 11, 2010 3:54 AM
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This is the first time I see a contemporary work that features the nazis as crybabies instead of emotionless monsters XD

Also, "stop making me tell you these stories, Rock, or you're out of Lagoon and I fucking kill you". Revy is badassitude incarnate :3
Jul 19, 2010 3:51 PM

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If this show had magic i would have been able to accept the fact that O2 was still there but it is too real so it preoccupied my thoughts. Either way not bad with some animosity between Rock and Revy. Plus they didn't succeed so that makes things more interesting. At least the fighting between them was pretty balanced this time.
Sep 15, 2010 3:55 PM

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I tell ya, Revy's pseudo-intellectual/philosophical speeches are starting to piss me off.
Dec 1, 2010 2:15 PM

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i thought the oxygen thing was self explanatory,since they died in a gunfight...

this and the previous episodes were really good :),i'm hoping for more like this to come

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Feb 23, 2011 12:29 PM
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Fuck you guys seriously, it's like every anime should be non-stop action to please you. I've seen this all around this fucking site and it's starting to tick me off.
Mar 17, 2011 1:51 AM

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Revy is Chinese?? Nice :D


Exactly what I was thinking! Lol! Now their going to give those Nazi's one hell of a fight.
Mar 29, 2011 3:01 PM

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Liked everything about this episode, even the Nazi crying like emotive little girls!

And am I smelling a longer arc? Yay!
Jan 17, 2012 3:58 AM
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I like how Revy really is a badass and not the classic rough character that then turns out to have a heart of gold. She really is a pirate and it would have been out of character for her to accept Rock's reasoning and put the stuff back.
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Apr 13, 2012 11:40 AM

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Never would have guessed that Revy was Chinese.
Apr 19, 2012 1:05 AM

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revy is mad...
nazi's gonna get raped xD
May 19, 2012 8:30 AM

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I love this episode for entertainment, however, you really shouldn't analyze it... anime physics sure work mysterious xD
Aug 7, 2012 11:18 AM

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you could say since they left the gear, they opened their a little O2??

very surprising Revy is chinese, im guessing she's half chinese and russian since in the last episode she was called a dangerous russian.

or it could be she was raise in russian after running away??

rock is soo stupid, i don't even know why this douchebag is in the show. not only he's talking like everyone had a normal life, but also manage to left the painting in the middle of the battle. should have been killed by Revy in the very first episode.

overall love the back story and bits and pieces.

sure the pacing seems to be slow, but i enjoyed it and love Revy's voice :)
Aug 7, 2012 11:05 PM

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It seems like I was the only person here who still had a problem with Revy taking those medals even after her bullshit speech.
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It seems like I was the only person here who still had a problem with Revy taking those medals even after her bullshit speech.


not only you, but this is the life rock chose....

To be a pirate, you have to deal with this things like Revy did
Sep 7, 2012 5:43 PM
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Reading the comments I guess that I´m the only one who isnt enjoying this series. I watch it, but when an episode ends Im not waiting impatient for the next one.
Anyway, I like Revy´s personality.
Sep 18, 2012 6:20 AM

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Let's turn the Nazi party into a blood party !
Oct 10, 2012 5:49 PM

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Loved that conversation between Revy and Rock in the darkness. She sure has the attitude and skills to make it through in this cruel world.

5/5.
Dec 4, 2012 2:54 PM
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Revy is spot on in this episode. Her speech about medals is quite true.
Next episode won't be so good between Rock and Revy.
5/5
Dec 15, 2012 8:15 AM

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So, a little bit of character development in this episode. Looking forward to next episode.

Dec 18, 2012 5:50 AM

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I really liked this episode. It had an Uncharted-esq vibe :D
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very surprising Revy is chinese, im guessing she's half chinese and russian since in the last episode she was called a dangerous russian.


Nah the "dangerous Russian" they referred to is the woman with the facial scarring who gives them the missions.
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ixidor125 said:
Isnt it stupid how the ppl in the sub died by lack of air, yer revy and rock dont need oxygen, and just breathe?


That was all i could think too..
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armeg said:
It seems like I was the only person here who still had a problem with Revy taking those medals even after her bullshit speech.


I actually agreed with her speech, and the snippets of her past show that it is perfectly reasonable for her to loot from the dead. I mean if you grew up, being reduced to how much money you have it's normal to value money above everyting else and to see objects not for their possible ideological/emotional value but simply in terms of how much money they are worth.
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I don't agree with what Revy said and I don't think Rock agrees either. But I believe it's a normal outcome of Revy's past and current lifestyle to think like that. She didn't have the same opportunities like others and she didn't have the privilege to have higher morals. When you fight to survive you awake your animal instincts. I think that's what Rock also realised and stoped talking (besides Revy threatening to kill him :))
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I tell ya, Revy's pseudo-intellectual/philosophical speeches are starting to piss me off.

And she's a ball of cliche with arms and feet.

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Fuck you guys seriously, it's like every anime should be non-stop action to please you. I've seen this all around this fucking site and it's starting to tick me off.

What else is this show good for? The dialogue and the characters are boring. I'm just watching it for the mindless action. Texhnolyze and Bakemonogatari are in my favorites, I don't think every anime should be non-stop action. This one just has nothing else going for it. Dumbass.

Weakest episode yet. This and the last one. Disappointing.
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All that trouble for a shitty painting by an unknown dead artist.
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