Why the watchers are decreasing?

Jul 10, 2023 9:56 AM

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DarkLight9616

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Deane said:

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Deane said:

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BlazerionX said:
The longer the series is the more people lose interest. It is the same with any series. Why Alicization is higher than Ordinal Scale because some people never watch anime movie.

then according to this logic one piece should be dead !!?

One Piece is not broken into an individual's season, but instead, it is one long-running simulcast season. Which makes a difference when comparing the two series.

Don't compare One Piece to an Isseki which should have ended after season 1. The plot, Story, Characters, Foreshadowing, Adventure, World Building what ever you name One Piece does it better. Only Big names like AOT, Naruto or Hunter x Hunter can be considered to be compared with OP.

It seems that your lack of understanding of Sword Art Online has clouded your Judgment of understanding what each story is trying to teach. Even if in the grand scheme both display the concept of human will and oppression.

in advance, you are also incapable of differentiating Isekai from Sci-fi, because it is very clear that Sword Art Online is a Science fiction and Adventure besides other themes, but isekai is not one of them. Even though you have programmed it to be in your very thick head.

However, I do know that it would be very stupid of me and a waste of time to try and explain to you simple things that you should have already known from our last conversation in a different post. But, as it is obvious, you are still incapable and unwilling to understand it. Therefore, I will gladly walk away and refrain from engaging with you in any future discussions, because it would be uncharacteristic and stupid of me to speak with a brick wall.

I’d argue that at the very least Season 1 and Alicization are isekais. Isekai just means “another world”. It being a game world and not another universe or them being able to eventually return to their world doesn’t mean it’s not an isekai, but I guess it’s debatable. My point is that it’s not fair to be harsh on someone for calling SAO an isekai.

Could you elaborate on how Season 1 displays the concept of human will? Genuinely curious

Being in a game world does not change the fact that it is Science fiction storytelling first and foremost. Further, isekai is mostly associated with, reincarnation, summoning, portal and or transferred. Even though there is some trapped work, such as Overlord, that can be used as a comparison to Sword Art Online season one. I believe that they are very distinctive because in Overlord they do not know if they are trapped or transferred into the gaming world or a different world with a similar concept to the game.

Whereas, in Sword Art Online from day one they're aware of where they are, because they went there, of their own accord. Plus, they are specifically told the reason why they are trapped, and what they should do to be free. Which is very much uncommon in isekai works. But, I do understand why season one would debatable.

Disclaimer: I have not read the Overlord light novels, all my knowledge of it comes from the anime adaptation. Therefore, I do not if they have revealed further information about, why they are there, or where they are.

In advance, I fail to see where in any of my paragraphs, I have stated that season one incorporates the concept of human will. However, if you wish for an example of a broader view of the human will, that can be seen in season one. I would give you the players' determination and willingness to complete the game to return to the real world. Despite, knowing the fact that they could die by trying to complete it.

To better illustrate my point while also using Overlord as an example - what if at the end of Overlord Ainz was able to leave the game somehow? Even if they learned "why they are trapped" and "what they should do to be free", I'd argue that it would still be an isekai regardless. At this point it's just a matter of definitions, and whether you consider "trapped in a game world" stories to be isekai.

Here's what you said in your previous reply to another user regarding the concept of human will in SAO:

It seems that your lack of understanding of Sword Art Online has clouded your Judgment of understanding what each story is trying to teach. Even if in the grand scheme both display the concept of human will and oppression.

("both" in this case refers to One Piece and SAO)

This comment is what made me ask that question; I've watched the first two seasons of SAO, but I failed to see any meaningful exploration of the concept of human will. I suppose the players' determination to complete the game despite the risk of death (as you mentioned) could be an example, but I wouldn't say it's meaningful enough to mention it as something the "story is trying to teach". I'd argue the story isn't really trying to teach much at all, and it's rather just an entertaining story.

Yeah, just like you said, isekai can be a matter of definition. However, the main difference is that in Overlord Ainz, as I am aware, Ainz does not know anything at the moment. And, neither if there is a possibility that he will be free and return to his world, and of how long has he been there. is there a possibility that someone is taking care of his body? Because in SAO their real-life body condition was just as important as their in-game ones for their existence.

Further, Even if Ainz was to be free and able to return to his world. I think, and based on my knowledge from other isekai, I believe that he as Ainz Ooal Gown, not Suzuki Satoru will be able to find a way to return to his past world. This would be very similar to that of slime and smartphone isekai. Whereas sword art online is very similar to that of other Sci-fi series that have people that also live in the Internet world, such as Pyscho-pass and Ghost in the Shell, they are all aware of their circumstances and existence.

For Pyscho-pass, I might be remembering wrong, but I believe that there was a scene, where they had to go into an undercover mission in a disco, inside the network. Which, was a separate, but still connected world to the real world, just like how the VR/AR in Sword Art Online are still dependent on the real world.

In the concept of human will. At first, I was talking about Sword Art Online as a whole not just the season one, plus including One Piece. However, If you have watched sword art online up to season two, then it would be right for me to believe, that you must also have noticed other demonstrations of the concept of human will. For example, the Yuuki way of life and survival, Kirito's determination and willingness to save Asuna, Sugou's ways of treatment of human life, and Sinon's view of life and the GGO death game itself. This could also be applied to Sword Art Online season one, they all teach the importance of one's life, and how it should be respected and treated.

DarkLight9616Jul 10, 2023 9:59 AM

Jul 10, 2023 11:14 AM

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Ashera2004

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Ashok_Kumar said:
So, I have noticed that the members kept declining whenever new season comes out in respect of previous season.

Check This👇👇
1) Sword Art Online - 2,961,271 members
2) Sword Art Online ll - 1,908,548 members (35.55% decline)📉
3) Sword Art Online Movie: Ordinal Scale - 701,480 members (63.25% decline)📉
4) Sword Art Online: Alicization - 996,350 members (42.04% rise)📈
5) Sword Art Online: Alicization - War of Underworld - 719,884 members (27.75% decline)📉
6) Sword Art Online: Alicization - War of Underworld 2nd Season - 576,930 members (19.86% decline)📉
7) Sword Art Online the Movie: Progressive - Aria of a Starless Night - 232,492 members (59.70% decline)📉
8) Sword Art Online the Movie: Progressive - Scherzo of Deep Night - 92,739 members (60.11% decline)📉
9) Sword Art Online (Original Movie) - 25,489 members (72.52% decline)📉

So can anyone please explain "why members kept declining?"

SAO franchise is seriously underrated, I know it has many flaws but so has other animes.
I just don't understand people saying to beginner anime watchers to avoid SAO, I mean this Anime actually made me a vivid anime watcher, and the beauty of SAO lies that it gets better by each arc and the story of arc of Alicization is it's finest. I would be back for another season or so and advice anime watchers to give this anime a chance, who knows maybe you wwill come to like it.

Jul 10, 2023 12:22 PM

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Yashuron

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many people stopped this at the starting of Alicization but those who find it interesting, watched it well if look at myself i stopped it after 5-6 episodes of Alicization but when i resume it after 3days it was totally change the plot changed Kirito start working with blond hair guy ( eugeo) maybe

Jul 10, 2023 12:33 PM

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BitChilly

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Anime that have multiple seasons like SAO will tend to lose viewers every season since many people either don’t continue watching after a point in time or simply because they aren’t aware of new content like Ordinal Scale and Aria of a Starless Night.

My personal experience, I stopped watching SAO after the Alicization Arc, believing it to have concluded until as of last month when I noticed the newer movies, picking it up again. This is how it was for me, but I’m sure everyone else has a different experience in comparison.

Jul 10, 2023 12:37 PM

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