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May 16, 2010 12:36 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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AMG R.I.P Nikol :( sucks he had to die by Kira
Sep 12, 2010 4:10 PM
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AMG R.I.P Nikol :( sucks he had to die by Kira

yeah. . .

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Oct 19, 2010 12:01 PM
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Poor Nicol, he was such a kind boy :(
Apr 9, 2011 10:17 AM
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aww man, nicols gone now... :(


i dont get why kira feels sad for nicole, but not for other people,....


and why doesnt kira go berserk?
May 4, 2011 10:10 AM
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Aw, nocile wasn't a half bad character either..

btw, name of song used in episode?
May 22, 2011 3:22 AM
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They got pretty outclassed right there.
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Jun 13, 2011 9:12 AM
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Welp, Nicol was the "nice guy" of the bunch. He somewhat annoyed me, with his homolust for Athrun.
Also, it was funny see the the parents' reactions when Cagalli hugged Kira. THEIR SHOCKED FACES! At least that's another love triange resolved.

I doubt Kira needed to go berserk there, the battle didn't seem that hard, and Kira wasn't really in danger, nor was anybody 'close' to him in danger. I don't think he activates it by choice, you know. Looks like Athrun won't be holding back against Kira anymore though.
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Aug 5, 2011 5:04 PM
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Damn, Nicol T_T
Aug 27, 2011 1:36 PM
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Poor Nicol, he was such a kind boy :(

Yup,I'll miss him.
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Also, it was funny see the the parents' reactions when Cagalli hugged Kira.

And this.

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Oct 26, 2011 1:16 PM

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damn. why couldnt it have been yzak
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Mar 11, 2013 12:23 PM
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i dont get why kira feels sad for nicole, but not for other people,....

^This so much.

Here the director decided to make the show more dramatic to appeal to the emotions of the viewers to advance the story, but didn't take into account something as simple as the character's history because he/she thinks the viewers are idiots.
Mar 31, 2013 11:22 AM
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damn. why couldnt it have been yzak


My thoughts exactly. Someone kill Yzak...please. His screaming gives me headaches. Although I didn't personally love Nicol or anything, his death make me cry because he was such a nice guy, and really, Athrun's one true ally. Now Athrun has more of a reason to hate Kira...

inan said:
OtherGuyX said:
i dont get why kira feels sad for nicole, but not for other people,....

^This so much.

Here the director decided to make the show more dramatic to appeal to the emotions of the viewers to advance the story, but didn't take into account something as simple as the character's history because he/she thinks the viewers are idiots.


Oh yeah I noticed this too. Kira did feel horrible for killing that one other guy that was Athrun's friend back in Heliopolis. But he sure didn't feel bad for killing the other ZAFT force in the desert.
May 6, 2013 6:49 PM

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Damn it, why did my one of my favorite characters have to die?
Jun 22, 2013 2:13 PM

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Damn. I liked Nicol.

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Jul 17, 2013 12:05 AM

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Of course Nicol is the one to die, he is not a racist warmonger idiot like the rest of the group (save Athrun).

This is Gundam at its core, the really good guys on either side get killed.
Jan 18, 2014 4:14 AM

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Damn , I liked that kid. I wish it was someone else though.
Jan 28, 2014 7:41 PM

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His death felt a bit forced, but it ok.
Feb 13, 2014 6:20 AM
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Noo, Nicol ;_; You were supposed to be my pianist! My favorite part of the series is coming up, and it's only a few episodes away!! Athrun's is after Kira's blood now. Things are going to get ugly.
Feb 15, 2014 1:30 PM
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Great. They kill a bonafide nice guy like Nicol and a homicidal moron like Yzak lives. Why do you do this Gundam scriptwriters? The story is much more interesting when you have likeable characters on each side. It makes it all the more complex.

At least now Athrun will go crazy after Kira and the stakes will be raised.

I got spoiled on Cagalli and Kira, so the reveal this chapter was not as strong as it should have been. I wonder how they'll explain that Cagalli doesn't look anything like Kira's parents?
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Jan 26, 2015 8:04 AM

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Narration melancholy but not without action, beautiful confrontation in which besides the fighting we are witness to the passing of Nicol; what a pity I was sympathetic.
Drawings and animations good.
I thought this episode would be seen in the new MS, are a little sad.
Feb 18, 2015 6:12 PM

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Damn, I would rather Yzak died than Nicol...
Aug 11, 2015 9:22 PM
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I think since they gave the people at Orb all of that combat data, and Kira wrote an entire OS for them, the Orb people should have gave them one of the many Astray's they had lined up. That way they would have at least 2 mobile suits, to take some slack off Kira.
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damn. why couldnt it have been yzak


My thoughts exactly. Someone kill Yzak...please. His screaming gives me headaches. Although I didn't personally love Nicol or anything, his death make me cry because he was such a nice guy, and really, Athrun's one true ally. Now Athrun has more of a reason to hate Kira...

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OtherGuyX said:
i dont get why kira feels sad for nicole, but not for other people,....

^This so much.


A couple of reasons.

First, Although he doesn't know nicol personally he knows he's athrun's friend - meaning Kira knows he just killed someone close to athrun, meaning athrun will hate him more, and kira obviously doesn't want that, because up until now, fighting was just a job - not personal.

Second, Kira can still respect him as a pilot. This goes back to something LaFlaga said earlier, it's easier to kill someone you don't know. Even though Kira didn't know 'for sure' he was fighting the desert fox, he could tell by his skill. Similarly, kira would have respect for the pilot of the mobile suit he went to battle with multiple times. Nicol is less of a nameless face if you will, because his face is attached to the mobile suit.

make sense?
Jun 9, 2016 4:27 PM

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YES!! Finally! A reason to actually enjoy SEED again! The action was better than the other episodes, we finally have a good OP AND good ED, and the way the characters reacted to Nicol's death, now I am beginning to see why people like this show!

R.I.P. Nicol

P.S. Hopefully Flay and Yzak follow suit...soon...
Jun 18, 2016 2:40 PM

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I really liked Nicol, those other pilots could die instead of him. Oh well...
Nov 5, 2016 9:39 PM
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I thought: omg this is it! the place where Kira kills his best friend. Too bad Nicol had to step in though.
Nov 5, 2016 9:42 PM
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finally a significant character death.
Mar 19, 2017 5:17 AM

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And Yzak still gets to live...whyyyy
Jul 22, 2017 5:54 AM

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Nicol was an alright lad, a shame he had to go but then again the death flag was pretty huge.

Also yeah, I could definitely feel his homolust for Athrun.
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YESSSSSS die you little brat! hopefully Athrun is next.
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RIP goon squad member No. 3. We hardly knew ya. We don't care.
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Nicol was fifteen! He loved the piano!
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Flaecy said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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AMG R.I.P Nikol :( sucks he had to die by Kira

Wait..."HE"? Nicol was a BOY???
Jan 17, 2022 2:03 PM

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They butchered Nicol's death so hard in the remaster lmao.
Nov 11, 2022 1:26 PM

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RIP Nicol

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Sep 24, 2023 7:25 AM
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Nicol, so sorry for you...
Dec 13, 2023 6:48 AM

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oh no, poor nicol, i like him a lot :(
Obviously the only zaft pilot not racist and warmonger was the First to die.
so sad
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ahh yes more drama

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