Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka IV: Fuka Shou - Yakusai-hen Episode 9 Discussion
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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| Holy shit, now that we get a closer look, Ryu's life really has been tragic....I'd say she may have the most tragic story compared to any other main character so far. Not just her....but the party she is with too. Some of those deaths were brutal! To me, this was the darkest episode this season. Feels like even the music matched the mood and despair of how Ryu's party was annihilated. Ryu could've easily died that day too if her party didn't fight to the death. |
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| JC Staff: I sincerely apologize for all the crap I've said about you over the course of the years. You nailed this, you really did. I know the source material was top shelf, but this was unquestionably the most emotive and gripping chapter in the entire anime for me. When they gave Alize the Gainax death treatment I was almost in tears. Music, dialogue, action, everything. Top tier episode this was. Saori Hayami was once again stellar as Ryuu and her screams of Bell's name will echo in perpetuity. She's going to become even more of a fan favourite than she already is, specially for anime onlies. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Ryu finally called Bell by his name, that scene was really tense, emotional and beautiful. Ryu blushing was really cute. Need Ryu x Bell, if they don't end up together after all this then it'll be really disappointing. As for the backstory, now that was tragic and brutal damn. |
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| Lol Bell acting knocked out had me laughing. Also, jesus Ryu's crew got butchered. I guess I wouldn't have wanted it any other way though |
| Wow this was really something. Best episode of this franchise till date. Such tragedy filled backstory, to the point where it feels like those plenty of happy-go-lucky events till this point was a thing of faraway past. Ryu had it horrible but she still didn't succumb to the hardships, gotta respect her mental fortitude. Could care less about the ships, but it was good to see Ryu getting something out of all of this with Bell. Hayami Saori really nailed the voice work this episode. |
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| the feeeeeels 😭😭😭😭 cried so much this ep the insert song was beautiful cant wait till it gets released |
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| Back then Astrea familia sure proved to be a mighty force to reckon with. But geeze the jug really made a mockery out of them when it ambushed them. Reading about this action really was haunting in the LN but it was even more so seeing it be animated and voiced. The haunting song really complemented their last fight magnificantly. It was even sadder that Ryu never even got the chance to bury her friends either. Lady Astrea must had been devastated to learn of the death of her children. Overall really liked this ep as it greatly expanded upon Ryu's past in perhaps the most tragic way possible while also showing how much she had changed after meeting Bell and her friends. |
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| This was definitely where the conflict between the Astrea Familia and Jura's Evilus group first began, with the Juggernaut's instant kills of the Familia in one fell swoop. Not even Ryu managed to scratch it one bit, and certainly neither would the Familia live to see their survival outside the Dungeon with such brutal deaths. Of course, this wasn't spared fror Jura's group either, and for those who managed to survive, it was purely by fate and luck. But Alise coosing to sacrifice the others to let Ryu live, that was the lifelong trauma that she would not forget: the last breaths of her Familia. What a tragic backstory that Ryu has gone through to get to this point, and though a proper burial could not be done, it held lingering memories of the vengeance against the Rudra Familia and Jura's Evilus. Having no options left, and getting booted out of Lady Astrea's Familia, Ryu was ready for fight to the death to exact her justice as the Gale Wind. And when she thinks that all she had was her Familia, it was Bell that paved the way for her new-found survival, thereby not allowing her to die on her own accord. The hero whom should always have been the rightful one in the first place, it was Ryu who set in motion the justice that she has been motivated with, and all they need to now is to get home in one piece. Bell scaring Ryu with his near-death experience, that was certainly her heart's cry for him to get back on his feet. And a water source on the 37th Floor to clean up their wounds, the live to see another day. DanMachi's been killing it every progressive season being the new pinnacle. Emotional, touching, and impactful. |
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| Fantastic episode! They finally revealed most of Ryu's past and I've got to see Ryu, finally accepting herself and Bell's companionship. (or I think it was...) The 3/4 of this episode shows quite a lot of flashbacks from the past and the rest are the current events taking place from the coliseum and a new found place for them to stay safe... or is it...?! Is it just me or Ryu is blushing because of Bell's heroism or something else...? hmm, I gotta wait for the full details, I guess? Next episode... last 2 episodes... no... >.< |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| This episode of Danmachi was easily one of the best episodes in terms of hype, emotions , music , fights. JC Staff nailed it. |
  Must love Moe! Darkness prevails!! Slice of Life is all we need! |
| Huge props to whoever decided to split this backstory into short sequences every episode. It worked out incredibly well and this week's scene was absolute masterpiece. So emotional. And then we get blushing Ryuu, which is a different kind of masterpiece :) |
| Best episode imo. Showed no BS, no OP plotholes, and wiped the Astrea family clean! It was very satisfying to see that cocky family go down. I guess Astrea is really not that perceptive or taught her members to be humble and not charge in blindly. They lacked a strategist and earned their rightful reward for it. WELL DONE FOR NOT SIMPING! |
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CrunchyCrobat said: You can't be serious How is this only pg-13?! Even just the emotional trauma they gave was enough for the R rating |
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| Tragic backstory, horrible Astrea family deaths. Sad. But now, gaming mentality, how much EXP Ryuu stored after the deliverance of karma? And how much EXP a god would drop? I mean a killing a god would be cool, very JRPG like. |
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| Whew, nothing was held back in this one. Bell's grandfather would be proud, I bet. |
| Felt bad to see the whole Astraea Familia wiped like that. Think it's probably the first time Ryu calls Bell by his first name, or she doesn't do it often. More blushing Ryu always good! |
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| Damn. Just damn. What an emotional and brutal episode. I'm glad they didn't hold back on showing the slaughter of the Astrea Familia. Saori Hayami deserves all the awards. Her voice acting specifically during the Luminous Wind chant and how her voice was breaking was fantastic. This is probably the first time an episode of Danmachi had me holding back tears, and the amazing OST definitely did its job on that front. Just wow, what an episode. |
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| Even knowing for a while how Ryuu's former party met their demise, I was not really ready for that. It was already hard to watch the flashbacks just knowing they were all going to die rather brutally, but recounting the actual event was just heartbreaking. The fact that the production values were top notch this episode (animation, voice acting, music, etc.) just made it all the more impactful. Quite a journey from where the series started. |
| so thats the whole backstory of Ryu its tragic alright the Survivors Guilt of Ryu is strong and Ryu x Bell now? |
| Well now we know what happened, well we already knew that Ryu wiped out another guild after how own got wiped out but now we know exactly what happened. Ryuu has a big trauma about her past not to mention the guild of what happened, it's questionable if she will even come to term with those things tho. Now the question is when will the be able to reach safety seeing as things have gone from bad to worse even since this arc started. |
| Even though we knew about the fall of Astrea Familia, their death was brutal. Like damn, it honestly was hard to watch. Ryu's backstory was tragic. Overall, this episode was pretty damn good. |
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| Oh god angry pouting Ryu is just fucking adorable, never expected her to swoop the best girl position. |
| All of those small flashbacks have really helped to make the moment where the Astrea Familia got massacred by the Juggernaut even more brutal, sad and memorable than it would've done without the build up. The way that some of the Familia members were killed off was VERY graphic, which only goes to showcase just how terrifying the Juggernaut really is. Despite the odds against them, Alise, Kaguya and Lyla, even with their injuries, threw caution to the wind and battled to the bitter end while giving Ryu a chance to escape. J.C Staff easily went for it in terms of production values as well. The music, both orchestrated and vocal songs, was sombre and captured the mood beautifully, the animation quality was excellent and the voice acting was top notch. All of this exemplifies just how sad Ryu's backstory is, feeling that survivor's guilt as she sworn cold-blooded revenge on anyone who was part of or affiliated with the Jura or Evilus Familia. Back in the present, thanks to Bell's surprise attack, he and Ryu were underneath the Colosseum on a hidden path, where Bell's defiant belief in Ryu and his talk about justice was enough to make her well up in tears. It did get scary when an enemy did sneak in and put Bell in a tight spot, leaving Ryu so shocked that she called him by his first name for the first time (At least I think so), but he simply played unconscious so that he could kill the enemy in one hit. After that, the pair find a small stream where they could relax, heal and drink some much needed water. What a stellar episode this is. There's only two episodes left now, so maybe Bell and Ryu can reach the safer floors pretty soon. Knowing where they are, you can't rule out another enemy ambush, but here's hoping their path now will be a lot quieter and smoother. |
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