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Jul 27, 2021 11:00 AM
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Then it’s cause it’s American produced animation, simple
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guulaash said:
Then it’s cause it’s American produced animation, simple


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Aug 10, 2021 4:36 PM
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I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.
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I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.
we only used the term anime as a reference to Japanese animation, it expanded to included chinese and korea. If you are going add it must as well add Family Guy.
Sep 20, 2021 6:28 PM
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Gurifisu-Femto said:
Eprico said:
I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.
we only used the term anime as a reference to Japanese animation, it expanded to included chinese and korea. If you are going add it must as well add Family Guy.


Castlevania is a Japanese story animated partly by Japanese animators that was released with a Japanese dub and is hugely inspired by anime. If anything, it's far closer to being an anime than any Korean/Chinese show. Family guy takes absolutely no inspiration from anime and is entirely American. They're completely different and that isn't a good comparison.
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Eprico said:
Gurifisu-Femto said:
we only used the term anime as a reference to Japanese animation, it expanded to included chinese and korea. If you are going add it must as well add Family Guy.


Castlevania is a Japanese story animated partly by Japanese animators that was released with a Japanese dub and is hugely inspired by anime. If anything, it's far closer to being an anime than any Korean/Chinese show. Family guy takes absolutely no inspiration from anime and is entirely American. They're completely different and that isn't a good comparison.
You do know early Japanese cartoons were inspired by Disney and American cartoons? They needed foreign animators to teach them how they did it and some were English dub with your logic Astro Boy, Big X and others that they weren't anime either.
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Gurifisu-Femto said:
Eprico said:


Castlevania is a Japanese story animated partly by Japanese animators that was released with a Japanese dub and is hugely inspired by anime. If anything, it's far closer to being an anime than any Korean/Chinese show. Family guy takes absolutely no inspiration from anime and is entirely American. They're completely different and that isn't a good comparison.
You do know early Japanese cartoons were inspired by Disney and American cartoons? They needed foreign animators to teach them how they did it and some were English dub with your logic Astro Boy, Big X and others that they weren't anime either.


Those shows are over 50 years old and are completely irrelevant to this conversation.
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Eprico said:
The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal?


Yes, Voltron: Legendary Defender is not in MAL database. Neither is Star Blazers or taleSpin. Since video games are being talked, than pac man, legend of zelda, Mega Man: Fully Charged etc. Non of those cartoon based on japanese videogame are present in mal


Also for above statement "stitch!" is japanese take of american cartoon lilo and stitch which is present in mal beause its made by japanese. Its not 50 years old
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Oct 20, 2021 7:55 PM
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Its american animation thats why

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Eprico said:
Gurifisu-Femto said:
You do know early Japanese cartoons were inspired by Disney and American cartoons? They needed foreign animators to teach them how they did it and some were English dub with your logic Astro Boy, Big X and others that they weren't anime either.


Those shows are over 50 years old and are completely irrelevant to this conversation.

The question of the definition of “anime” is an open one. I think this is relevant in that context: much of Japanese animation borrows techniques that American animators (Disney) pioneered. Still , this a large debate, and getting into it too much here might not shed a lot of light on whether Castlevania should be on MAL or not.

Somebody probably pointed this out already, but RWBY is on MAL. I’m sure you all have thoughts on that in regards to Castlevania’s inclusion here, as you should. It’s confusing, and certainly frustrating. I found this thread after I looked and could not find Castlevania on here.
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BlueHawk02 said:

The question of the definition of “anime” is an open one. I think this is relevant in that context: much of Japanese animation borrows techniques that American animators (Disney) pioneered. Still , this a large debate, and getting into it too much here might not shed a lot of light on whether Castlevania should be on MAL or not.

Somebody probably pointed this out already, but RWBY is on MAL. I’m sure you all have thoughts on that in regards to Castlevania’s inclusion here, as you should. It’s confusing, and certainly frustrating. I found this thread after I looked and could not find Castlevania on here.


RWBY is NOT on MAL, get your facts straight. MAL only has the manga adaptation of RWBY, same as Castlevania manga. And the " question of the definition of anime " is very much clearly defined and not open at all.


It's a style of Japanese animation. A style that is clearly present in Castlevania. If these same guys moved over to Japan, animated the exact same show there, and then moved back, is it anime then? Or is producing anime a race exclusive privilege?
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sakamaka said:
Eprico said:


It's a style of Japanese animation. A style that is clearly present in Castlevania. If these same guys moved over to Japan, animated the exact same show there, and then moved back, is it anime then? Or is producing anime a race exclusive privilege?


You don't even know the difference between medium and style, zoomer boy. There is no point wasting my time with you.


Dude...

anime
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a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.
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sakamaka said:
Eprico said:


Dude...

anime
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a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.


Good job making definitions from your ass then posting them as some kind of facts, zoomer boy.
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I think it's illegal to be taking that much copium sir



What a surprise, an inane and a low IQ answer. I would expect nothing less from a zoomer. Go on shoot some more buzzwords you zoomers use to further prove your lack of comprehension skills. I don't expect any brain activity from your side after all.
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sakamaka said:
BlueHawk02 said:

The question of the definition of “anime” is an open one. I think this is relevant in that context: much of Japanese animation borrows techniques that American animators (Disney) pioneered. Still , this a large debate, and getting into it too much here might not shed a lot of light on whether Castlevania should be on MAL or not.

Somebody probably pointed this out already, but RWBY is on MAL. I’m sure you all have thoughts on that in regards to Castlevania’s inclusion here, as you should. It’s confusing, and certainly frustrating. I found this thread after I looked and could not find Castlevania on here.


RWBY is NOT on MAL, get your facts straight. MAL only has the manga adaptation of RWBY, same as Castlevania manga. And the " question of the definition of anime " is very much clearly defined and not open at all.

Oh lord, you’re right, I got my websites mixed up.

But the definition of anime is open. All manner of animated productions are often called “anime” by any number of different people and entities. Western cartoons are “anime” to the Japanese. So it is complicated and unsettled. But it’s not worth any animosity. It simply isn’t settled, and maybe it doesn’t need to be. I presume MAL has some criteria, and we can argue about that, but I know that it’s frustrating trying to keep track of my progress of certain shows (RWBY included now that I’ve got my facts straight) when they’re not on here when they could possibly be categorized as anime.
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Because it's American animation. Only Japanese, Korean and Chinese animation is considered as anime. Btw, why Japanese studio not animate this manga? Why American studio animate it? It's a manga not comic. Stupid American studio
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Eprico said:
I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.

Only Japanese, Korean and Chinese animation is considered as anime. And American studio is animate it. Not Japanese studio. Blame at American studio
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BlueHawk02 said:
sakamaka said:


RWBY is NOT on MAL, get your facts straight. MAL only has the manga adaptation of RWBY, same as Castlevania manga. And the " question of the definition of anime " is very much clearly defined and not open at all.

Oh lord, you’re right, I got my websites mixed up.

But the definition of anime is open. All manner of animated productions are often called “anime” by any number of different people and entities. Western cartoons are “anime” to the Japanese. So it is complicated and unsettled. But it’s not worth any animosity. It simply isn’t settled, and maybe it doesn’t need to be. I presume MAL has some criteria, and we can argue about that, but I know that it’s frustrating trying to keep track of my progress of certain shows (RWBY included now that I’ve got my facts straight) when they’re not on here when they could possibly be categorized as anime.

Only Japanese, Korean and Chinese animation is considered as anime. Don't think all 2D animation is anime.
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Ayako_Rose said:
Eprico said:
I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.

Only Japanese, Korean and Chinese animation is considered as anime. And American studio is animate it. Not Japanese studio. Blame at American studio
You're just being selective, you can't make exceptions for some and not others despite them meeting the same criteria. Korean/Chinese animation animated in an anime style is no different from American animation animated in that same style.
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Eprico said:
You can't make exceptions for some and not others despite them meeting the same criteria. Korean/Chinese animation animated in an anime style is no different from American animation animated in that same style.

I get your argument but if we're talking about style, then I wouldn't say it's the "same" as Japanese anime. The directing, music, dialogue, animation (especially of the mouths), and certain aspects of the art feels very American to me. I know this is based on a Japanese property and has a Japanese dub and everything, but still the vast majority of the core staff who created it is American and it shows. I honestly don't think it's closer to traditional "anime" than many of the Korean and Chinese shows on MAL. I wouldn't really be against Castlevania being added, just explaining why I think it is the way it is.
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Eprico said:
You can't make exceptions for some and not others despite them meeting the same criteria. Korean/Chinese animation animated in an anime style is no different from American animation animated in that same style.

I get your argument but if we're talking about style, then I wouldn't say it's the "same" as Japanese anime. The directing, music, dialogue, animation (especially of the mouths), and certain aspects of the art feels very American to me. I know this is based on a Japanese property and has a Japanese dub and everything, but still the vast majority of the core staff who created it is American and it shows. I honestly don't think it's closer to traditional "anime" than many of the Korean and Chinese shows on MAL. I wouldn't really be against Castlevania being added, just explaining why I think it is the way it is.
Yeah but it's still clear what they're going for. There a subtleties in Chinese animation that make it clear that it's Chinese but it's still anime to me
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Gurifisu-Femto said:
Eprico said:
I think they should make an exception for Castlevania because the original story is Japanese and the some of the episodes were worked on by ex-Madhouse employees. The show took so much inspiration from so many different anime that it basically just is an anime at this point. How come Korean and Chinese shows are on mal but not this? The same American animation studio wants to animate berserk. What if they do and it just isn't an entry on mal? That would be ridiculous, Castlevania should be added to the database.
we only used the term anime as a reference to Japanese animation, it expanded to included chinese and korea. If you are going add it must as well add Family Guy.
If they added Family Guy, Fullmetal would finally be dethroned from #1.
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Gurifisu-Femto said:
we only used the term anime as a reference to Japanese animation, it expanded to included chinese and korea. If you are going add it must as well add Family Guy.
If they added Family Guy, Fullmetal would finally be dethroned from #1.
I would put SouthPark and Batman TAS ahead of Family Guy
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Because people who made mal are eastern only selective while they SHOULD include some anime style western animated series, chinese or korean should never be included here
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From what I’ve seen, I feel like the definition of anime is just: animations made by japan. There of course is a distinct style we associate as anime but there are many shows that don’t look at all anime but are considered that. 🫡
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Should add all animations. Anime is a japanese word for animation, so technically speaking all animations are called anime by Japanese people. At the very least, should add animations that are inspired by Japanese animations, such as Avatar. 

From then on, I'd also like to see cartoons to be added, thank you very much. Would make my life easier adding stuff to my list so I don't rewatch the same thing from 1990s or early 2000s. Plus there would be more traffic to this site if you did so. Might as well do it since you don't pay your workers which are mainly volunteers and all ad money and data selling to advertisers money go all to the owner(s).

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