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| That has to be one of the biggest overreactions I've ever witnessed! Awesome. |
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| finally they focused more on Lunge and Eva :) man Lunge is soo ruthless! trying to pressure his suspects as hard as possible. and wow he doesn't sleep, he overworks too much and doesn't even know his daughter got pregnant! lol what a boss! i notice Lunge's daughter is voiced by Eri Kitamura(i think), but what about his wife? she sounds like Miyuki Sawashiro!! Eva is such lunatic :P she sleeps around anyone yet still has feelings to Tenma! i wonder what Lunge would think if he saw Johan's picture? :P and wow the Gardener's wife came back after all! and the Garderner's daughter is voiced by Endo Aya :) so who's the seiyu of the wife? :D lol Eva got what she deserves!! she finally snaps!! wow what a crazy woman! so both Lunge and Eva lost everything except Tenma :P man Tenma better watch out! btw there is a possibility that Johan could just be a personality of Tenma, but at the same time how could he kill someone when he's not even moving at all? not to mention Nina saw Johan in the past episodes :P and wow Nina is back!!! next episode is gonna be ace!!!!! |
| its amazing that johan, a sociopathic killer that lacks any empathy is so much more likable than eva. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| that gardener is such a boss |
| I'm happy for the gardener. |
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| Hope Eva didn't affect your view on women, because we are not all like that lol. |
| I feel sorry for eva, even I, hating all her actions in the past, she, unlike johan still a human being. Lunge is a better detetive character than L, "we talk about that later" I lol'd. |
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| Bitches burning shit, you know she crazy lol |
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| Why are most females in this anime bitches?! Is this how the mangaka thinks most woman are :P |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: Why are most females in this anime bitches?! Is this how the mangaka thinks most woman are :P I doubt you'll ever truly like Eva, but I think she is a very well crafted and written character by the end of the show. Nina never really was a bitch from what I remember. |
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insan3Spectre said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: Why are most females in this anime bitches?! Is this how the mangaka thinks most woman are :P I doubt you'll ever truly like Eva, but I think she is a very well crafted and written character by the end of the show. Nina never really was a bitch from what I remember. Hmm, thats good to hear but I wasn't just talking about Eva. Lunge wife and daughter and the gardner wife were also rotten females if you ask me. Nina is cool so far :) |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: insan3Spectre said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: Why are most females in this anime bitches?! Is this how the mangaka thinks most woman are :P I doubt you'll ever truly like Eva, but I think she is a very well crafted and written character by the end of the show. Nina never really was a bitch from what I remember. Hmm, thats good to hear but I wasn't just talking about Eva. Lunge wife and daughter and the gardner wife were also rotten females if you ask me. Nina is cool so far :) Yeah, I didn't remember what happened this episode so I just used Eva and Nina because they are the two major female characters. In defense of the Wife and Daughter Lunge isn't exactly the greatest father/husband. His severe dedication to his job no doubt really severed their relationship, unfortunately it's easy to side with him because of his importance to the series but I think he is as guilty as the other two there. Can't really speak much about the gardeners wife. Shit, I barely remember what happened at this point. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3Spectre said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: insan3Spectre said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: Why are most females in this anime bitches?! Is this how the mangaka thinks most woman are :P I doubt you'll ever truly like Eva, but I think she is a very well crafted and written character by the end of the show. Nina never really was a bitch from what I remember. Hmm, thats good to hear but I wasn't just talking about Eva. Lunge wife and daughter and the gardner wife were also rotten females if you ask me. Nina is cool so far :) Yeah, I didn't remember what happened this episode so I just used Eva and Nina because they are the two major female characters. In defense of the Wife and Daughter Lunge isn't exactly the greatest father/husband. His severe dedication to his job no doubt really severed their relationship, unfortunately it's easy to side with him because of his importance to the series but I think he is as guilty as the other two there. Can't really speak much about the gardeners wife. Shit, I barely remember what happened at this point. Sorry but I have to disagree with you on the Lunge issue, yeah he was not around for them but that doesn't excuse cheating or getting pregant by a random guy. His wife should have left him if she couldn't take it anymore, can't respect cheaters -_- And what was the deal with his daughter, what was he supose to do, investigate if the guys who are hitting his daughter use a rubber? She opened her legs, how can she blame her father for that?! |
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| This was a fantastic episode. I don't care if it was filler or not, it gave us a fascinating look into Eva's mind. I'm pleasantly surprised that she's getting so much development. She's really sad and pathetic, in a way, but that's what makes her interesting. |
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| Awesome episode. That gardener seemed like such a great guy I was really happy that his wife returned to him but all I could say was "noooooo" when Eva approached the house, omg that is some harsh writing! I actually felt sorry for her. Now she's gone totally crazy lol. For the love of life! lol |
| Is this the bitch of the century or what? >:D Fantastic reaction, just brilliant! |
| It's interesting to see more characters getting fleshed out. I really have nothing against Lunge but he's got nothing but bad luck because of his obsession with the truth. I think his wife and daughter wanted him to finally show emotion and try to make them stay so when he acted indifferent that was probably the true breaking point. Can't say I like Eva but I really did feel for her this episode and her character is very intriguing. It was actually sweet to see her smile when she was about to knock and heard the daughter laughing behind the door. Too bad that was short lived, she went back to crazy woman mode and it looks like everyone is making someone else their life obsession in this series. |
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| woah nigga went off the deep end |
| i'm happy the gardener's wife came home. and eva is a miserable bitch as always Kayro said: This almost seemed like a filler episode (or it might actually be a filler), but it was very good. how? an important character's development was expanded upon. a character we haven't been shown much of yet aside from his fixation with tenma. it also gave a glimpse of what eva is.. up to. aside from that it was also made apparent that lunge is going devote himself to the sole case of tenma, which is important to know imo. |
| Not sure why people would think this anime has slow pacing and has fillers. Those are not fillers, those are exploration of the world of Monster which is vital for audiences to "feel" like the characters. I just think if you don't enjoy the pacing, you probably have never really read a good book or simply a good story. You're not supposed to have everything handed to you right away. The build up of mood and tension, the presentation of the universe this story is set in, the experience and development of characters, are all fundamental parts of a great story like Monster. If you don't get it, I would advice you don't continue. Anyways, awesome episode. I felt disturbed seeing Eva behaving this obsessive and vengeful... I hope Tenma would be alright... |
| Noo! I dislike Eva, but when the gardener's wife came back and Eva approached the house... nooo! Nooo! Nooo! It would've been the one good thing that has happened to Eva, and maybe she would've become a good person. :( I can't believe it's only been 14 episodes. I feel like so much has happened already, but it's nowhere near done. |
| Honestly, I admire Lunge's passion for his work dedicating all his time and effort and it was unfortunate for him after all that work to be taken of the cases he was working on, but he still didn't take the time to listen to what his family have to say, I wonder if he was any different before for him to actually even get a wife and have a daughter I feel sorry for Eva, all she wants is to be loved deep down but has her heart broken when she attempts to take things seriously which is a huge bummer but I guess it's karma for all the men she led on despite having wives Great episode! |
| disgusting that gardener took his fucking wife back after leaving him 4 another man |
| Lunge certainly isn't human, and Eva is too human- what seems to connect so many characters in this series is to what extent they truly are "monsters". |
| I wouldn't have known this was filler if I hadn't read it in the comments. It was totally devoted to character development, which is important for any series. In fact, it improves my opinion of the anime, so props to Madhouse if this wasn't in the manga. Lunge truly is intriguing. His intellect isn't overplayed despite being present, and his devotion to his profession is being explored rather than simply "slapped on" as a character trait. The way he took being removed from most of his active cases separates him from the typical "bloodhound" type of detective, yet he seems totally fixated upon the criminals he catches... I hope to see more of this side of him going forward. I even felt sorry for him when his wife and daughter left him (coupled with his removal from most cases): He was being a crappy father/husband and it's certainly understandable that that would push them away. That's his fault. However, his wife should have known what sort of man he was when she married him, and she cheated on him at that. Leaving him first would have been more appropriate. As for Eva... she's as much of a snake as always, but I do think the sympathetic side of her (what little there is) has been unearthed some in this episode. As she said out of her own mouth, she wants a man who won't oppose her. She is dominating, manipulative, and totally selfish. Yet, being human, she still wants to be loved. What Eva doesn't seem to understand is that her attitude and way of life simply isn't going to endear her to others in nearly any scenario. Even with the gardener, who could be considered a "miracle scenario" considering how rare it is to find such an understanding person, she pushed him away with her bitter, demeaning, and selfish words. In a sense, her finding the gardener back with his wife was a due recompense for her actions. I don't fault her for wanting to be happy, for wanting to be loved. Yet, her way of doing things makes it hard for me to sympathize with her. How can she claim to love a man whom she now wishes to kill? That's not love. It's control. When Eva isn't in control, she freaks out, even to the point of burning down her own house. Eva is a very mentally disturbed person. Also, she's sleazy. Yuck. Solid episode. I saw Nina in the preview, so I'm looking forward to the next episode. I wonder how she's changed since we've last seen her. |
| Lunge is just as inteligent as Tenma, if not more. Now that he's full on catching him how long will it take him? Really hooked up. |
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| Damn, that gardener was getting the cougar pussy. Great development for Eva. Makes her feel like a real character |
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| Bitch got mad. No Tenma but still kept me entertained enough. |
| Wow that is one crazy bitch |
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| This episode made me hate Eva even more. What a fucking psycho bitch leeching off men that come for her pussy. Lunge is awesome. He's my favorite character in the show so far. He managed to make a secretary kill himself with words alone. That ending was intense. What horrible timing for that poor family. This episode was different as it focused around less important characters but it was great anyways. I'm gonna watch plenty more tonight. 8/10 |
| Holy shit, she burned what she have. i didn't expect it. Now she can become a monster if she cannot find a man who loves her and does everything she says. lol |
| God, eva has some serious emotional problems. I actually for a second wanted her to calm down and be happy, she seems so lost. And that scary detective has some messed up life, seriously does he have any emotions at all? |
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| I actually felt a bit sorry for Eva a bit at the scene when she was going to bring the present and visit the gardener and his daughter. Then the last scene played and I remembered how much I hate this bitch. |
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| She is such a psycho |
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| Personally I absolutely loved this episode. Everytime we get to see Tenma save lives I always smile. Of course it's also quite conflicting as we know that Tenma will eventually have to kill Johan. I'm really excited to see where the series goes, what you guys and gals? |
| In the argument of sub vs dub all I have to say is why not both? Cue the Mexican music!!!! |
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| Eva continues to piss me off >.< |
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| poor lunge... and dat bitch eva cray cray |
| Wow Eva is a psychopath. |
| I'm scared of Eva lol she went full crazy!! And the gardener was such a sweet person. Really love the anime until now, I'm really excited about what will happen in these 70+ eps! Also, Lunge is DA BOMB |
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| Sorry, but i was just laughing so hard at Eva's reaction xD like srsly, her eyes when looking through the window xDDD |
| Up until now the series has been a bit slow-paced, but I like it. I have a liking for character development/insight episodes like this one and in the end, though Eva is quite a broken and unpleasant human being, I nevertheless felt sorry for her. Anyway.. wow, cheating is rampant in Germany! O_o (or at least in this anime XD) Firstly Lunge's wife (he was a neglecting husband and father, but she should have broken up with him rather than cheat on him.. cheating is always wrong -_-), then Eva's lover who was cheating on his wife, and finally the gardener's wife, who left him (and her daughter!) for another man. I'm not sure why some are happy she came back.. if I were the gardener I wouldn't forgive her. |
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