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Sep 2, 2018 6:23 AM
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Holy shit, this episode was intense.

Getting captured and getting burned on the stake. It's the public thinks Sarah and the others are complete monsters. On the other hand, at least Setsuna is in a better spot with all the shit going on. He and Rinne in this timeline are getting along well.

Sep 2, 2018 8:42 AM
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Damn, she did gave him a damn present.
But I really didn't expect that since I heard the vn doesn't have sexual content, I guess it was only teased there like in the anime.

It felt pretty crazy, Karen and Sara dying like that. Though I wonder how the time travel will work.

3/5 Only 2 episodes to go.
Sep 2, 2018 9:00 AM
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I guess that was a pretty heavy episode, especially the part where Karen died when Setsuna was still carrying her. :(

Setsuna's confession was nice, Rinne blushing is. <3

I guess let's see how this time travel is gonna work out.
Sep 2, 2018 9:27 AM
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In the alternate timeline...both Karen and Sara dropped out of the race in the midst of a heavy episode...that's a lot to take in....

Sara got caught up with family affairs while Karen with soot blight syndrome...what a way to end their lives...

Finally, and yet finally, Setsuna knows the plan from here on with all the tbts, and it starts with a confession to the Rinne of the past...the covenant of the lovers (and brings us back subtly (but not directly) to the 1st 10-15 secs of Ep 1 with the sexual eroge scene (if you can see that)).

So now, armed with the new info, the time travel shall commence...
Sep 2, 2018 9:36 AM
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Died more people in this episode than in the entire my hero academia lmao.

Btw this episode was great, cannot wait for the last two eps.
Sep 2, 2018 10:36 AM
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Welp, I wasn't really expecting everyone to be dying left, right and centre like that, but they did. Those soldiers are really scummy bastards for killing all of the untagged children. D=

Then Sara and Karen also died as well, which sucked. On the plus side, Setsuna and Rinne succeeded in getting the time machine up and running and they also had enough time to make their marriage vows and, to my surprise, sexual intercourse. Since this isn't a hentai show, obviously, only their silhouettes, faces and feet were visible during that scene. Rock on...

I'm hoping that this next step for Setsuna will work out better than the last. Good episode overall.
Sep 2, 2018 11:03 AM
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Shame about their deaths, I hope Setsuna will be able to get a happy ending for all three in his third attempt.
I'm rooting for him. Dude deserves it.
Sep 2, 2018 11:28 AM
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Seems kinda pointless for him to go and save the original Rinne at this point when he loves the one from Never Island, but I'll accept anything that ends this bizarre section of the story and returns to Urashima.
Sep 2, 2018 11:33 AM
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so they basically telling us what most people know, religion is corrupt and evil. i agree with Atavistic in taking anything for this portion ends and go back to the other timeline despite the ever mess of a plot. that is quite a present tho
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Sooo they fucked... nice I think this anime is going to be a huge time loop but we will see if Sestuna can change that or not
Sep 2, 2018 11:59 AM

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You'd think that the amount of times he's done this he'd at least make a memo of what to do by now. I mean he forgets each time he travels through time...

Also why didn't their ancestors design a bigger time machine? The whole reason Rinne died was because Setsuna died from not being able to fit in the time capsule...
Sep 2, 2018 12:17 PM

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So, no matter what they say, everyone can leave the bunker anytime they please, both Setsuna and Rinne did it at least twice without anyone ever bothering checking on them. No guards, no checkpoints, no even door shown.

I doubt a whole part with Never Island will be ever explained, now it seems whole reason for this setup is a most contrived excuse for sex scene in history.
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The whole episode was kind of rushed but that is understandable, i hope we get to see the whole story.

Just to clear one small thing, i don't think its really correct to call the never island "an alternate timeline" because from the start of the anime we are seeing a "single" loop of events. @KANLen09

▶It starts with Setsuna waking up (ep1) stuff happens, Rinne dies, he use the cold sleep machine (ep8), wake up in the future (aka never island), others die, island is unrecoverable, after some hot action with Rinne, he use the time machine to go back in time.

▶From here on out, we don't know it yet but im guessing he's not going back to the ep1, instead he's going to travel to much older past, probably at the time of legend and then some stuff going to happen and he's gonna "Fail" and with one or more time jumps, he's going to end up in beach at ep 1.

▶This is a single loop, so if he repeat this loop but with different decisions, some different things happen and then its an alternate timeline.
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I'm worried this is a fixed time loop, he comes from the future to change the past, then gets sent to the future to learn about the past and keeps doing it.
Sep 2, 2018 1:42 PM

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yooo!!! setsuna the mann LOL rinne got that D



lol thats about all i picked up in this episode

jk...good action and why the untagged have to die like that?! =(
and sara and karen

fml i woulda just stayed on that timeline with that rinne after that lil marriage but thats just me
DAMN setsuna is cool to me now finally he give rinne what she wanted
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John_Max said:
The whole episode was kind of rushed but that is understandable, i hope we get to see the whole story.

Just to clear one small thing, i don't think its really correct to call the never island "an alternate timeline" because from the start of the anime we are seeing a "single" loop of events. @KANLen09

▶It starts with Setsuna waking up (ep1) stuff happens, Rinne dies, he use the cold sleep machine (ep8), wake up in the future (aka never island), others die, island is unrecoverable, after some hot action with Rinne, he use the time machine to go back in time.

▶From here on out, we don't know it yet but im guessing he's not going back to the ep1, instead he's going to travel to much older past, probably at the time of legend and then some stuff going to happen and he's gonna "Fail" and with one or more time jumps, he's going to end up in beach at ep 1.

▶This is a single loop, so if he repeat this loop but with different decisions, some different things happen and then its an alternate timeline.

If I remember correctly, Rinne typed 20000 on that capsule number pad, which can mean Setsuna is send whopping 20 thousand years in the future, or 20 thousand years into the past, which will be pretty crazy either way.

Unless 20,000 means days, hours, or whatever time unit that capsule uses.

I bet whatever timeline is next it will have same girls with same personality anyway.

Also, Rinne picked the number seemingly randomly, which also raised the question how she knew to when to send Setsuna, if that time is the present day first episode used.
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So the 2 dropped out, Rinne ends up with Setsuna, Setsuna goes back in time , but before he banged Rinne, Did we just saw somekind of Child porn, given that rinne is made to look like a little girl while Setsuna is an adult????
Sep 2, 2018 2:27 PM

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Whew! They forked...

So Setsuna is time-travelling again, now to a distant past.
What Rinne will we be seeing next in that timeline?
I hope at the end of this travelling, he goes back to where he was in the first episode.
Sep 2, 2018 2:44 PM

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So this is why time-travelling always go wrong
Sep 2, 2018 4:36 PM

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"We've met again, but you didn't save my daughter"
Sep 2, 2018 4:48 PM

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Not sure what it's heading but I'm currently on Never Island Arc myself for Visual Novel and I can say it's so much better than anime.

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Sep 2, 2018 4:51 PM

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Those, who are complaining about incomprehensible storyline probably never watched Rewrite.

Sep 2, 2018 6:30 PM

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That was fastest eventful episode, like I mean everything happened quickly. Children died, Mai dead, Sara's father died and Sara is framed, Karen died, Rinne finishes the time machine, they banged and Setsuna travels to way back in time.

What a true bull.
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Sep 2, 2018 6:32 PM

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Oh no, Sara 2.0, Karen 2.0 and the new character (Mei) are dead pfffffff...

Setsuna and Rinne got married and have sex in the same episode LMAO. I was expecting that the bad guys found the bunker but remember that Island doesn't have a brain. Yeahh, another time-travelling....



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okay, the episode was kinda rushed with them just gettion over theyr frie ds dying in 10 seconds.
otherwise this is an aweasome series but im not understanding a single bit, every episode gives me more questions than answers like: if setsuna kind ajust got married this episode does that mean he is also married to past rinne? xD
Sep 2, 2018 7:10 PM

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I seriously had to laugh at this episode. Two quick deaths and then "Here are my Vows" oh and a present before I send your ass back in time...and then they bang one out!

LOL Dude this is outrageous and not in a good way. The VN just came out on steam so Ill probably wait til it goes on Sale to buy and play it.
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John_Max said:
The whole episode was kind of rushed but that is understandable, i hope we get to see the whole story.

Just to clear one small thing, i don't think its really correct to call the never island "an alternate timeline" because from the start of the anime we are seeing a "single" loop of events. @KANLen09

▶It starts with Setsuna waking up (ep1) stuff happens, Rinne dies, he use the cold sleep machine (ep8), wake up in the future (aka never island), others die, island is unrecoverable, after some hot action with Rinne, he use the time machine to go back in time.

▶From here on out, we don't know it yet but im guessing he's not going back to the ep1, instead he's going to travel to much older past, probably at the time of legend and then some stuff going to happen and he's gonna "Fail" and with one or more time jumps, he's going to end up in beach at ep 1.

▶This is a single loop, so if he repeat this loop but with different decisions, some different things happen and then its an alternate timeline.


Thanks for the clarification though, since from here on out it seems that presumably the series of events Setsuna is going through will change the course of history with the time machine.
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Wow, so — a whole bunch of characters from a potential future, die... But, they’re all kinda/sorta the same characters as before in the series, so we’re supposed to care about them in some way, right? Except, I don’t. At all. Talk about ridiculous, over the top melodrama. It went right through the proverbial roof, in this episode. And, it wasn’t just this episode, but the one previous to it, as well. I’m just not a fan of either of them. It all feels like a whole lot of wasted time. Not made in any way more compelling, by virtue of its edginess, in killing everybody off. This all could’ve been contained to a single episode, and kept the story moving, at a much better clip.
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That was very rushed, and some stuff felt a bit too dumb, but this was a decent episode with some interesting twists to the fates of the girls and this timeline.
Sep 2, 2018 8:41 PM

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The sex scene was so dark. I hope the blu ray version is more clear

Sep 2, 2018 11:25 PM

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I don't think the sex scene was needed. It could have been implied without that much being shown.
That aside- it was a rushed episode. They should have had him go back at the last episode then given us 2-3 ova eps showing if he can change the past. They took too long to get to episode 8 then rushed this part.
From what I'm understanding: "Setsuna" is the husband of Rinne's reincarnated self: Rinne.... I think. But, what about his past BEFORE he got into this time loop?
He was someone, somewhere, doing something BEFORE he was in his 20's and trying to save Rinne in a time loop.
Sep 3, 2018 1:30 AM

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*Guard hears something*
"What was that?"
*Peeks over the corner*
*FLYING KNEE!*

Damn...all those children....

Everyone's gone insane!

No...not Sara! They're really rushing things here though...

Enough food for two weeks...they better think of something in two weeks.

Lol Rinne moving Karen away from Setsuna.

Now that's a plot twist:


And people said this anime was hard to understand! I'll state it again: The capsule that Setsuna went into on Island froze time within the capsule while everything outside of the capsule proceeded as normal. So when Setsuna woke up, he was in the future aka Never Island, but the capsule had a side effect which gave Setsuna memory loss. Setsuna went to the future to find the time machine so that he can go back further into the past!

Cheesy lovey-dovey lines by Setsuna. But I can understand why he feels for Never Island Rinne. Since he temporarily lost his memories after moving to the future, he grew to like Never Island Rinne, so he can't really feel the way he did for Island Rinne which is a known trope in some anime.

BUTTERFLY EFFECT!!! WE'RE CHRONO TRIGGER NOW!

He made rings out of the tags? Now that's sweet...

Oh? So that dark mystery scene in episode 1 is what happens here...well now...they were being explicit...I'll give them credit for BALLS!

Alright, let's get this show on the road! Where's he going now? Always Island?
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The sex scene was less censored in AT-X airing, maybe it will be even less in the BD.

I find it a little disturbing that a man in his 20s did it with a 13 year old.

Also, it's really fitting that Yukari Tamura voices Rinne in Island. Summer Rinne's body is of a 17 year old even though she's older.
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Those, who are complaining about incomprehensible storyline probably never watched Rewrite.

Re: Write is actually similar to this. Alternate timelines having same characters with same personalities as the main timeline, all appearing for no apparent reason, making you wonder whether you actually missed a half of the show or something.

Main difference is, characters in Rewrite have superpowers, and that's pretty much it.

Also, Re:Write have two seasons, I think. I had "I have no idea what's going on anymore" moment by second season. With Island, it was Episode 9
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Pregnant AGAIN from a man she will never see AGAIN... Oh god, please stop with that crap Rinne.
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Piromysl said:
Those, who are complaining about incomprehensible storyline probably never watched Rewrite.

Re: Write is actually similar to this. Alternate timelines having same characters with same personalities as the main timeline, all appearing for no apparent reason, making you wonder whether you actually missed a half of the show or something.

Main difference is, characters in Rewrite have superpowers, and that's pretty much it.

Also, Re:Write have two seasons, I think. I had "I have no idea what's going on anymore" moment by second season. With Island, it was Episode 9


Ye, but Rewrite makes switch every other episode for no reason and without any foreshadowing.

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Ye, but Rewrite makes switch every other episode for no reason and without any foreshadowing.

First Season doesn't look so much confusing first as the second one is.
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So... he fucked the loli version of the woman he failed to save in the past.
GG Japan, now I hate it instead of just finding it stupidly fun because it's nosense.

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Piromysl said:
Those, who are complaining about incomprehensible storyline probably never watched Rewrite.

Re: Write is actually similar to this. Alternate timelines having same characters with same personalities as the main timeline, all appearing for no apparent reason, making you wonder whether you actually missed a half of the show or something.

Main difference is, characters in Rewrite have superpowers, and that's pretty much it.

Also, Re:Write have two seasons, I think. I had "I have no idea what's going on anymore" moment by second season. With Island, it was Episode 9


Rewrite is different.
The characters show in a fixed point in time, it's the MC that reincarnates in different time periods in different world branches.

The main difference between Rewrite and Island is that this looks like a fixed loop of Setsuna losing his memory, failing to save Rinne, going to the future, fucking the loli Rinne and coming back losing his memory to start again.
I hope next chapter changes this appreciation.
For Rewrite, each story is a different wordline, Rewrite is more like Higurashi than Island.
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Rewrite is different.
The characters show in a fixed point in time, it's the MC that reincarnates in different time periods in different world branches.

The main difference between Rewrite and Island is that this looks like a fixed loop of Setsuna losing his memory, failing to save Rinne, going to the future, fucking the loli Rinne and coming back losing his memory to start again.
I hope next chapter changes this appreciation.
For Rewrite, each story is a different wordline, Rewrite is more like Higurashi than Island.

Now I actually assume that time never goes backward, and Setsuna actually traveled to the future again, but it can be anytime, really.

But it doesn't matter how it really works mechanically. Only how it feels.

In Re:Write, it didn't really mattered, everything seemed quite subtle in the first season and I had no reason to complain about anything as I didn't noticed that it changes anything in between episodes, up until second season that threw everything out of the window
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island became steins gate.... hahahaha....

well its a sad thing for setsuna though as he cant be able to save Karen and sara. its sure the past era was way more challenging compared to the present era they are with as killings are prominent at that time.

*and now setsuna will be going back to past again to save the island... hahahaha (sounds like steins gate... anyways im so excited for this weeks episode of steins gate 0...)

Lets see what will setsuna see in the another past ISLAND!!!
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So... he fucked the loli version of the woman he failed to save in the past.
GG Japan, now I hate it instead of just finding it stupidly fun because it's nosense.



Nah dude, he couldn't fuck Island Rinne coz he have feelings for Never Island Rinne. Have you forgotten the first scene in episode 1 with Never Island Rinne?

John_Max said:
The whole episode was kind of rushed but that is understandable, i hope we get to see the whole story.

Just to clear one small thing, i don't think its really correct to call the never island "an alternate timeline" because from the start of the anime we are seeing a "single" loop of events. @KANLen09

▶It starts with Setsuna waking up (ep1) stuff happens, Rinne dies, he use the cold sleep machine (ep8), wake up in the future (aka never island), others die, island is unrecoverable, after some hot action with Rinne, he use the time machine to go back in time.

▶From here on out, we don't know it yet but im guessing he's not going back to the ep1, instead he's going to travel to much older past, probably at the time of legend and then some stuff going to happen and he's gonna "Fail" and with one or more time jumps, he's going to end up in beach at ep 1.

▶This is a single loop, so if he repeat this loop but with different decisions, some different things happen and then its an alternate timeline.


@xXcorbanXx ^ what he said

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Cheesy lovey-dovey lines by Setsuna. But I can understand why he feels for Never Island Rinne. Since he temporarily lost his memories after moving to the future, he grew to like Never Island Rinne, so he can't really feel the way he did for Island Rinne which is a known trope in some anime.



@xXcorbanXx ^ and what he said
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The story feels hella cheap.
Also,
Japanese men making their girls pregnant before disappearing since time immemorial.
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PureAgiMaxReborn said:
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So... he fucked the loli version of the woman he failed to save in the past.
GG Japan, now I hate it instead of just finding it stupidly fun because it's nosense.



Nah dude, he couldn't fuck Island Rinne coz he have feelings for Never Island Rinne. Have you forgotten the first scene in episode 1 with Never Island Rinne?

John_Max said:
The whole episode was kind of rushed but that is understandable, i hope we get to see the whole story.

Just to clear one small thing, i don't think its really correct to call the never island "an alternate timeline" because from the start of the anime we are seeing a "single" loop of events. @KANLen09

▶It starts with Setsuna waking up (ep1) stuff happens, Rinne dies, he use the cold sleep machine (ep8), wake up in the future (aka never island), others die, island is unrecoverable, after some hot action with Rinne, he use the time machine to go back in time.

▶From here on out, we don't know it yet but im guessing he's not going back to the ep1, instead he's going to travel to much older past, probably at the time of legend and then some stuff going to happen and he's gonna "Fail" and with one or more time jumps, he's going to end up in beach at ep 1.

▶This is a single loop, so if he repeat this loop but with different decisions, some different things happen and then its an alternate timeline.


@xXcorbanXx ^ what he said

Tarotist said:

Cheesy lovey-dovey lines by Setsuna. But I can understand why he feels for Never Island Rinne. Since he temporarily lost his memories after moving to the future, he grew to like Never Island Rinne, so he can't really feel the way he did for Island Rinne which is a known trope in some anime.



@xXcorbanXx ^ and what he said


Then the cycle starts again.
I understand your point, but the memory loss makes impossible to clear the path.
He loved NI Rinne, then he traveled back in time, lost his memory and fell in love with I Rinne, he failed to save her and sleep until he got to NI where he developed again feelings toward NI Rinne.

I also do remember him crying when he met Island Rinne, implying that he was glad he came back to save her.
This is hard to defend, but I still believe that he has the exact same feelings for both Rinnes, and the memory loss is the reason he loves one or another. You can't actually say you love that much someone you don't remember, but you sure remember the one with you all the time.
And this^ can be used for both Rinnes as an argument.
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As far as i can imagine the anime it's some kind of new route after the VN "Re" ending, in certain parts of the game is implied that a time traveler can change a lot of things while he is interfering with any person of the past and until now the anime had a lot of changes according to the events in the VN but they can be interpreted as *SPOILER ALERT, DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE READED THE TRUE ENDING OF THE VN*
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another edge of tomorrow flick huh...
tampering with time is a taboo...and you'll pay for that!
3/5.


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Dark_-_Shinigami said:
As far as i can imagine the anime it's some kind of new route after the VN "Re" ending, in certain parts of the game is implied that a time traveler can change a lot of things while he is interfering with any person of the past and until now the anime had a lot of changes according to the events in the VN but they can be interpreted as *SPOILER ALERT, DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE READED THE TRUE ENDING OF THE VN*


So

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History repeating itself, just finish reading VN and true endings so good comparing to this SHIT anyway but still I'm going to watch cause I'm curious how anime will go.

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PureAgiMaxReborn said:


So



Wait what
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PureAgiMaxReborn said:
Dark_-_Shinigami said:



Wait what

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Dark_-_Shinigami said:
PureAgiMaxReborn said:


Wait what



Welp
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