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| 3 episodes out and I'm not sure how to feel about it. I love the game of Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra my favorite Fate material, but this anime... I don't know what Nasu is trying to do with these changes, I know he told the story will be original but all that sentimentalism about Shinji made me sick, I can't simpatize with him in a Extra based anime after looking at all that shit he did in game (This is not a CCC adaptation...), and the pacing looks rushed as hell. Shaft definitely can't make a epic fights (There's a lot in Madoka, but was years ago), too bad because I like their style for slice of lifes and non-action animes in general, even in the chill moments of Last Encore I keep liking them, but all the battles was quite meh. This anime is not that bad, but I'm not enjoying Last Encore as much as I expected. |
Theorder14 said: Khaos2310 said: Man, and I thought this can't be worse than Apocrypha. Haizz Aside from the fight which wasn't that impressive and they should have mentioned the reason why Drake couldn't shoot. What makes it so bad that it's already worse than Apocrypha? I'm genuinely curious. It's only 3 ep in and it at the very least intrigue me far more than Apocrypha ever did. Yeah, if I give the anime sometime then it will probably be better than Apocrypha. But right now Last Encore kinda worse since it goes with "give you all these mysteries, then we will explain later" kind of theme. And this is my first experience with Extra as well so... |
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| Only 3 episodes and people are already bashing the entire anime lol Neil Armstrong best servant Also that Tamamo sticker, does that mean that Tamamo still has the chance to appear in this anime? |
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| Kinda annoyed that the show completely glossed over the power Hakuno has that they ended the episode on last week, and that they also cut the fight between Saber and Francis Drake (seriously, what is with the Fate series and always gender-bending male historical/mythical figures?) really short, rather than doing a lot more with it. Also, if that Chavar-whatever thing overwrote the rules set out by SE.RA.PH., then why do they still have to kill another Servant to progress? And how does Rin move up without doing so and without her Servant (presumably)? I hope some of these questions start getting answered sooner rather than later, otherwise this will start to get tedious. |
Atavistic said: Also, if that Chavar-whatever thing overwrote the rules set out by SE.RA.PH., then why do they still have to kill another Servant to progress? And how does Rin move up without doing so and without her Servant (presumably)? I hope some of these questions start getting answered sooner rather than later, otherwise this will start to get tedious. I'm pretty sure they're just talking about the enforcement of the rules rly. you can still progress throughout the system if you want to, but- like in the game, if you didn't get the triggers or show up to the end of the week fight (since you have "7 days" to prepare) it'll just delete you outright the systems still work, but the whole thing lacks enforcement, its up to the players to figure out if they want to contiune so to speak |
| The first 3 episodes have been so mediocre it just hurts to watch and makes the start of Fate/Apocrypha look like a masterpiece in comparison. I feel absolutely nothing towards any of the characters or the story. The fights have also been unfortunately lackluster which is a shame knowing Kazuhiro Miwa is the action animation director for the show. At least in F/Apoc the fights were something you could always look forward to. God I wish I had never watched Fate/Zero. I always have unreasonable expectations towards any new fate related content because of it. squirrvev said: Seriously, why do people spit acid on this anime when it's just 3 episodes in ? It's as if they never saw any other Fate anime. Fate/Zero was pretty shitty in the beginning too. Here at least the worldbuilding is better than in any other Fate series (in my opinion) . Give it a time to shine. Tons of amazing anime started like that, or even worse. Fate/zero had a diverse and interesting cast which were mostly established by the third episode. They did a great job to make you emotionally invested with the characters. The direction and music was also far superior. |
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Khaos2310 said: Theorder14 said: Aside from the fight which wasn't that impressive and they should have mentioned the reason why Drake couldn't shoot. What makes it so bad that it's already worse than Apocrypha? I'm genuinely curious. It's only 3 ep in and it at the very least intrigue me far more than Apocrypha ever did. Yeah, if I give the anime sometime then it will probably be better than Apocrypha. But right now Last Encore kinda worse since it goes with "give you all these mysteries, then we will explain later" kind of theme. And this is my first experience with Extra as well so... That's exactly why i find it intruging though. I guess most people just like to get all the answers from the beginning. For example, many ppl complained how MC was able to survive and walk despite the injuries and we did get that answer the very next ep. In any case, i just think it's too early to compare apo and extra since extra is only 3 eps in. |
squirrvev said: I strongly disagree with the whole idea of comparing a finished show to one that just began airing. I only compared how they started. Fate/Extra could change and improve drastically within the next few episodes which is possible knowing how talented the staff are but as of now, it's extremely average. Get off your high horse, because like everyone here you know nothing about Fate/Extra. I don't care about the source material even if it's the apex of good writing. We're talking about the anime which apparently is anime original (?) I understand why it may seem boring. In my opinion the premise is way better than in any other Fate anime. As for the execution here, I admit this episode wasn't that good, but the previous ones did a good job for me. To sum up, it's too early for such a harsh judgement . Especially when it basically sounds like punishing every other Fate series for not being Fate/Zero I'm not punishing it for not being Fate/Zero. I enjoyed Fate/Apoc despite the main character being bland as hell but he still had more personality than this piece of wood in Fate/Extra and F/Apoc was carried entirely by the rest of the cast. Maybe it'll change later but the story so far seems to focus only on Hakuno. |
| Running out of bullets, well Shinji had to pay for this with his neck. Fight wasn't really,but the death scenes were nice. |
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| I-is that Rin doing a Shaft head tilt? Seriously, as a fan of both the Fate and the Monogatari series, this anime is pure fanservice to me. I can kinda understand where people are coming from with their criticisms, but I'm still enjoying every minute of it. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| This is such a clusterfuck. I hope they actually explain what the hell is going on at some point. |
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| K-K-Kissu?! Also plot is still a mess. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Lmaoo, maybe this episode is a little bit rushed but I still quite enjoy it. I also remembered myself feeling so bored and confused while watching the first 3-4 episodes of Mekakucity Actors and Kubikiri Cycle but thank God the whole series were pretty good and very satisfying to watch. I hope this same thing will also apply to this series. Also, this is the first time I feel sorry for Shinji lol. |
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| The battle was anticlimactic but at least we know more or less the plot. Lol Shinji. Saber Extra is much better than the entire cast of Apocrypha (except Mordred). 3/5 |
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| Can't get enough of UMU! and ABU did a spiderman kiss to UMU? lolz what do you guys can say about Rin's outfit? hehehehe OST is precise and on spot! 5/5. |
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Khaos2310 said: Theorder14 said: Aside from the fight which wasn't that impressive and they should have mentioned the reason why Drake couldn't shoot. What makes it so bad that it's already worse than Apocrypha? I'm genuinely curious. It's only 3 ep in and it at the very least intrigue me far more than Apocrypha ever did. Yeah, if I give the anime sometime then it will probably be better than Apocrypha. But right now Last Encore kinda worse since it goes with "give you all these mysteries, then we will explain later" kind of theme. And this is my first experience with Extra as well so... there are 3 episodes out, what the fuck do you want from a mistery anime in the first 3 episodes? |
ThEoNePugNA said: there are 3 episodes out, what the fuck do you want from a mistery anime in the first 3 episodes? A mystery is something that makes you want to think, to encourage you to watch more, NOT to dump it all over your face and make you bored to death. So RIGHT NOW, this is not good by any mean. |
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squirrvev said: Seriously, why do people spit acid on this anime when it's just 3 episodes in ? It's as if they never saw any other Fate anime. Fate/Zero was pretty shitty in the beginning too. Here at least the worldbuilding is better than in any other Fate series (in my opinion) . Give it a time to shine. Tons of amazing anime started like that, or even worse. Ideally it's best to hook an audience with the first episode, the first chapter or the first hour of gameplay, now I can understand world building so we'll give them the benefit of the doubt and extend that to three episodes. We're past the third episode now, how many more episodes should we give it before it starts getting good? I think by the third episode people should have enough of an idea as to whether they like a series or not. I'm neutral on the fate series, I neither love it nor hate it but I'm a huge fan of Shaft so while I'm completely underwhelmed by Fate/Monogatari I'm holding out hope that it'll get better. Fate Zero hooked me in the first episode. |
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squirrvev said: I thought that there should be some people who figured out what kind of a trap the 3 episode rule is. I mean, can't you come up with an example of a great anime that wasn't as good in it's first 3 episodes ? I'm pretty sure there should be some you could come up with. I'm kinda surprised, since I got saved so many times just by deciding not to drop something, or even giving it a second chance later. I'm worried about people's tendention to drop anime so quickly, especially when it's made by SHAFT. It looks stupid, because even if the anime you dropped ends up recieving poor reviews, it may be a coincidence rather than one's amazing ability to foretell fate of the anime in question. I never mentioned a three episode rule, I was just talking about basic storytelling, I used three episodes as a measurement only because there have been three episodes of Fate/Extra so far for people to base their opinion on and because those three episodes are what you are basing your own argument on. I think that if you haven't hooked your audience after 75 minutes then you are doing something wrong and if you haven't shown any signs of improvement in that time then you're unlikely to ever get things right, also let me repeat this for emphasis '75 MINUTES'. Sure there are a few shows that get better after three episodes, there are even some shows that start out as a train wrecks but become pretty good over time but those are the exceptions to the rule, in the vast majority of cases strong early impressions are usually correct. I don't know how long you think we should reserve our opinion on this show, four episodes? six episodes? should we wait over two hours and half a cour? As far as people dropping this or not liking it because it's Shaft I don't know how common that is but 3gatsu no lion is my favorite anime and I can't name another Shaft show I've seen that I haven't enjoyed so at least in my case I don't have any bias against Shaft. |
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| I am not claiming that this is going to be as good as Steins;Gate but S;G doesnt get "good" till ep 12. Many find it SUPER slow, confusing, filled with boring and stupid characters. Now, with S;G I was an anime only and I was hooked with the first ep.With this, I, like anyone who has played the game, kinda know what may happen but everything is so different that it doesnt really matter. Like S;G this series if full of little hints and foreshadowing that expect from you to wait while piecing together the pieces. The "3 ep rule" is some bs that was spread because of Madoka. Why should it appply to every anime when not every anime out there tries to be good with making that kind of twist so early(and honestly if you didnt see where that was going then wtf). |
Alternative-IV said: People are mad bc they haven't been spoonfed the details of the world and characters like they were in Zero and the fight scenes have been meh. It's also become meta to shit on Shaft apparently. It's enough that you yourself enjoy it so you don't have to let it bother you that people are shitting on a mystery not spilling everything in the first three episodes. Although, I will agree the most recent episode was lackluster and felt like we should've had another episode dedicated to this Stratum Personally, I'm worried this is gonna end up being a 13 episode rushed train-wreck because the show seems to have more material planned that you can reasonably fit within 13 episodes. Not liking something doesn't make you mad at it, having things kept a mystery doesn't automatically make them high brow or cover for bad writing and direction, not liking a shaft show doesn't mean you hate the studio or have a bias against them. I agree that it's enough to like it just as it's enough for other people not to like it, I don't think anyone should let it bother them how other people feel about a show, I never have. I assumed that this would either be 2-cour or split into two seasons like all the other Fate series but you're right that it would likely be a train-wreck if they were to go for 13 episodes. |
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| Nero-Sama is the only thing I ever need from this show, and they deliver it just so. <3 |
| Never tought I would feel bad for Shinji in my life O_o This is the episode that hyped me up to watch the rest. Actually I never liked Drake that much XD But the animation is still kinda weird tho, let's see how it will go until the end of the series. For you who are complaining go play the game :D |
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| Last 2 episodes were better... this one was just average... it wasn't as interesting. |
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| Easily the worst fight ever in fate franchise, every Sieg assoull fight in apo is pale in comparison to this. |
| Gotta say, this is looking pretty bad atm, I don't rlly have high hopes for the rest of it now. |
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Theorder14 said: should have mentioned the reason why Drake couldn't shoot Could you spoil me no this please? The anime made it seem like she was just rusty, or the gun jammed or something? |
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| This would have worked better as a game. ² Sorry Nasu, but that Shinji and Drake dramatic scene was shit. Drake was already a meme, but now the anime made her more meme than before. LOL Nero takes a Golden Hind right on the face and is totally okay. The fight was simple horrible and the kiss was cringe-worthy. The good parts were Rin (possible Tamamo disguised) and her armpits and the end card of Shinji and Rider, that card was BEAUTIFUL. and please can someone give me the good Hakuno back? All those talks would have been A LOT BETTER with OG!Hakuno instead of this "MUH HATE MEMES". Stop trying to make Hakuno a edgelord, Nasu, for fuck's sake. 3/5, I would give a 2, but my boi Shinji was nice and seeing Tsukimihara animted by Shaft was a pleasure. |
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| Rin and her transformation were amazing!!! |
| Wow, not bad, not bad at all. Have to say this was probably this first Fate episode that made Shinji likeable character. And Tohsaka bits were good too. Liked the end too. Still, I miss some clever decision of main character, while everyone else are well-developed so far he just seems like lifeless husk. And although I like his interactions with Saber, I wonder if he ever changes. Cause his motivation is a bit dull right now. |
| This is getting a lot of hate but honestly I'm enjoying it, I don't understand everything 100% yet but I'm sure that's just Shaft being...Shaft. Animation is obviously not on par with ufotable but this is still pretty good, I'm also really enjoying the soundtrack. |
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| What the hell? Drake's already gone? They just introduced her! A shame she was Shinji's Servant, too. Yuck. Surprised he didn't rape her or something, knowing him. |
| Battle wasn't bad, I liked the way they animated Golden Wild Hunt. Nero is a little to OP she should have at least had to use her NP to beat drake but meh. Rin looks great as always well see where this goes from here. |
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