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| Well, I like liked this Fate more than the consensus so whatever... IMO, Astolfo was the best character in this...BY FAR! And I'm being honest here, no internet persona....he was the brightest thing about this show, his personality and upbeat characteristics and overall loyalty and kind-hearted attitude was so refreshing in a series that is usually filled with dread and misery. Astolfo quite frankly was the best character in 2017...period. And the show was pretty entertaining and fun, he'll, I found this more enjoyable than Zero which was so Fucked up.... 8/10 |
| Not even a kiss at the end? RIP this anime |
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| so they reach to a conclusion where Sieg fastened his transforming and carry it to The reverse side of the world. and from what I look, this war doesn't really have a winner, instead, they're just a survivor. I didn't see this scene, which minutes is it? |
MortalMelancholy said: The fact that we get a happy ending in a Fate series with a romantic conclusion is something rare. I'll take what I can get.Not even a kiss at the end? RIP this anime |
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LawfulEngineer said: Does the LN add anything else or did the anime get everything?Yeah thats how it ended in the LN. Kind of a meh ending to be honest. Enjoyed seeing Shakespeare make it to the end kinda lol. THe fafnir thing was bound to happen since he used his seals already and Astolfo survives even though he was the the third weakest servant. Nice to see Waver again as well as Roche I think. Can't wait for Fate Extra Encore to air already |
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Major123 said: MortalMelancholy said: The fact that we get a happy ending in a Fate series with a romantic conclusion is something rare. I'll take what I can get.Not even a kiss at the end? RIP this anime It's not even a happy ending, the trap lost. |
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MortalMelancholy said: Well that's what doujins are for.Major123 said: The fact that we get a happy ending in a Fate series with a romantic conclusion is something rare. I'll take what I can get. It's not even a happy ending, the trap lost. |
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It's the maid u see here. https://youtu.be/ObVWxGiYLlw?t=55 |
| Well,it's over...and I am glad, there was some battles that was good and the songs were great, but that's it...Sieg was boring, Jeanne fell in love and fought for Sieg and her potential was lost there... |
bittersweetloveJan 6, 2018 10:52 AM
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| Meh. And for fuck's sake, I can't believe Astolfo is still on this world. Of course I know why "he" is still there but I'm more on I can't believe "he" survived at the end. bittersweetlove said: Well,it's over...and I am glad, there was some battles that was good and the songs were great, but that's it...Sieg was boring, Jeanne fell in love and fought for Sieg... Agreed though. It seems this what bothers me the most. I just don't get it goddamn. I think I can understand more if Jeanne is in love with the likes of Emiya Shirou but Sieg? |
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| Jeanne appeared again? how? Anyway, that epilogue probably came just to please those who likes to ship hard everything =P Btw, still bothered by all those airplanes... -.-" Tennouji said: Meh. And for fuck's sake, I can't believe Astolfo is still on this world. Of course I know why "he" is still there but I'm more on I can't believe "he" survived at the end. bittersweetlove said: Well,it's over...and I am glad, there was some battles that was good and the songs were great, but that's it...Sieg was boring, Jeanne fell in love and fought for Sieg... Agreed though. It seems this what bothers me the most. I just don't get it goddamn. LoL, indeed... I also got surprised by the fact that Astolfo was the only servant that survived at the end considering that he isn't that strong regarding skill battle and that he almost died many times... =P And, ye... I also got bothered by the fact of Jeanne falling for Sieg... that was meh |
TechOtakuJan 6, 2018 8:42 PM
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Lelouch0202 said: Not sure how Astolofo still lives but whatever I guess. xD his master is not dead (even if he has no more command spells), and a fucking dragon + they won the war, that could be the explanation. |
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| Overall, a show with many visible problems and very uneven. A bit memorable but gives conflicting feelings. Struggles with storytelling, pacing, presentation and overall messages. Good sound, animation and art. The characters had potential, but many just had little screen time and the writing has lack of focus. 6.5/10 |
| Better than unlimited blade works and the fights were better also Astolfo should have been listed as main character, he got more screen time than jeanne |
| Oh damn, Semiramis came in there at the last minute with a top tier waifu moment. Lap pillow + numbing his pain + surprise kiss + head pat + indirect confession all in one final scene!?!?! So it turns out Leticia didnt actually love Sieg, just respected him. It was Jeanne all along playing coy. That scene at the end was the kind of nice happy ending I always enjoy. Jeanne somehow cures his dragon form, and we get an absolute direct confession. Shame she didnt one-up Semiramis with a kiss of her own. So what exactly is the "reverse side of the world"? I'm not familiar with the Fate universe or Nasuverse, but I can obviously infer that its outside the axis of time. I can even understand to a degree Jeanne going from the throne to the reverse side. Since they're both some form of dimension outside time, its not unbelievable that they can be traveled between. It would just take a long time as implied at this ending. A shit load of time. I also don't have an understanding of how Sieg got to the reverse side. Jeanne sure, because you're traveling between places already outside time. But Sieg traveled as a tangible, living dragon, from regular old earth to the reverse side. I mean, even servants have to be summoned from the throne to earth with a ritual (which lets them cross that axis from one dimension to another...at least to my knowledge), so how did Sieg do the opposite? People keep calling this one of the weaker, if not the weakest story in the fate series. Since I'm still relatively new to the franchise that kind of raises the bar then since I did actually enjoy this story. Even with my limited understanding of Fate I get it wasnt a masterpiece story, but it still had its redeeming moments. Now they just need to write a slice of life spinoff with Semiramis x Shirou and Sieg x Jeanne just living as goofy couples in a hit rom-com. |
| I had to look up a few things to figure out what happened at the end there, but I think I got it, sorta. There's a lot of lore behind the servants, Fateverse, and Nasuverse that you have to know to really enjoy this. But even then, Sieg wasn't a very interesting main character, and his romance with Jeanne felt very flat. And with the focus of most of the show on those two and Astolfo, it doesn't leave enough room some of the other more interesting characters. I feel like with this many masters and servants, you'd have to have at least 50 episodes to flesh out all the characters and have a better story around this really cool premise to make this show great. Although, building around a premise is probably the hard part :P If anything, this show had a nice soundtrack and episodes 21-23 had absolutely amazing animation. |
| My favorite part of the episode was when the Garnidelia ED song started lol. |
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| The finale really got me. The reverse side of the world, one of my most favorite nasuverse concepts AND a sweet love confession. awww |
| Apomemes ended finally, yaaay. Now can I get my Fragments anime, TM? I want to hate Manaka on TV too. That Flat tho, fuck you for the teasing, A-1, now I want Strange Fake to get an anime too. F |
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| -2/10 Jeanne Alter didn't show up and instakill every character on screen |
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Deathmones said: IMO a better end than UBW. Indeed he fight also better though the story are better on UBW. It is mediocre at best but i must admit i am enjoying it more than UBW I don't even know why. I know it has a bad aspect but i still rated it 10/10, it's obviously biased especially based on the Reviews. Episode 22 have superb animation that's better than any Onepunch animation, i would Praise A-1 studio for that, It still sucks that the final boss are short and Jean got ohkoed by her own final form. But hey if you don't enjoy it maybe you shouldn't really watch it. Me? Overall the cast are quite likeable,most of them aren't just 1D character, simply put major comes from Black side instead of Red since Red faction mostly focus on the servants development. It's quite complicated due the amount of cast not to mention faction of the 2 side to understand but as long you have been following Jean herself, Sieg, Astolfo, Kuro no Archer/Chiron, Mordred and Shisigou. That's pretty much the main cast you need to follow. Story - Absolute cluster fuck Art - Amazing they really put effort in it, superb animation Sound - Good music, it has Memorable main theme, ost are great, for op and ed lover not so much, Good VA. Enjoyment - 10/10 fk yeah, i am speechless on episode 22 Overall the something quite enjoyable with a good conclusion in the end. It's a must watch for those who like actions. |
| Meh. Were we supposed to care about Leticia or something? 5/10 |
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| That was a satisfying finale, I liked it. Show had a good start, and the first and last couple of episodes were decent. The rest were really full of ups and downs. Guess it was an enjoyable ride overall, mostly, though. 7/10. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: Yeah. Well... I will remember the 23-24th episodes and the rest is just what Chaos; Child is to Science Fiction Adventure Series... Whew, was almost scared. Oh and this... "spit-off" ends just like Rogue One did. It's something. Note: I misspelled "Spin-off", but in the end it came out just right. And why oh in the world would she say "Koi" instead of "Ai" YOU FAILED IT DEVIANTS YOU JUST HAD TO FAIL IT! 'Ai suru' is simply to love. 'Koi suru' is to fall in love, and the use of 'Koi' is meant more in a romantic way. |
| I don't understand where did Ruler and Sieg found each other? On earth? On another world? I am still confused where? Also Was Sieg dead when he took that Orb? Because if he was then how did Astolof survived as his servant and why did he transform into a dragon in the 1st place? Shirou's death also is a mystery, how could he be defeated so easily by Sieg using Berserker's power and when and how did Besrker planted her powers to Sieg? All these questions are still puzzling for me and they are more but I don't want focus on that like Leticia's feelings and Jeanne d'arc. I enjoyed part of it but it got senseless and plot was overshadowed by too much action. Character development and design were lame like the protagonist Sieg, Ruler, Shirou, Jack the reaper ( loli), Achilles, Atalanta, Shakespeare and all the masters. Trap Astolofo was the only one I liked, I don't care if some of you hate him. Oh I forgot Saber of red Modred and her master, I loved those two they had a great chemistry so much that I wish the story was about them. The 3/10 is for Astolof and Saber of red for being there. As for everything else 0/10. |
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Tennouji said: That totally killed the show for me, I couldn't understand why Sieg too. I mean the guy had nothing going on for him and the connection with her I never felt it. I think this one was done to appease fans not for actual story.Meh. And for fuck's sake, I can't believe Astolfo is still on this world. Of course I know why "he" is still there but I'm more on I can't believe "he" survived at the end. bittersweetlove said: Well,it's over...and I am glad, there was some battles that was good and the songs were great, but that's it...Sieg was boring, Jeanne fell in love and fought for Sieg... Agreed though. It seems this what bothers me the most. I just don't get it goddamn. I think I can understand more if Jeanne is in love with the likes of Emiya Shirou but Sieg? |
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lihle808 said: Was Sieg dead when he took that Orb? Sieg wasn't dead, he took the Greater grail to the Reverse Side of the World, it's a place where there are supernatural beings instead of humans. lihle808 said: when and how did Besrker planted her powers to Sieg? Episode 10, Frankenstein's noble phantasm has a chance of creating a second Frankenstein, that's what happened to Sieg when he was struck with the lightning. lihle808 said: I don't understand where did Ruler and Sieg found each other? On earth? On another world? I am still confused where? "Sieg in his Fafnir dragon form migrates the Greater Grail to the Reverse Side of the World. In the Reverse Side of the World, the grail cannot activate Amakusa Shirou Tokisada's wish of "Salvation of mankind through the Third Magic" simply because no humans exist there. Reaching the Reverse Side of the World as a Heroic Spirit is not impossible because Heroic Spirits have already become inhuman the moment they died; however, the probability is incredibly close to zero. In order to reach the Reverse Side to reunite with Sieg, Jeanne d’Arc essentially tried an infinite number of times from the Throne of Heroes, which was removed from the time axis." - Type-moon wiki |
| Quite a beautiful ending to a pretty average show. The story was lacking in places but it was a fun ride overall. |
Shayon said: Thanks a million I might change my ratinglihle808 said: Was Sieg dead when he took that Orb? Sieg wasn't dead, he took the Greater grail to the Reverse Side of the World, it's a place where there are supernatural beings instead of humans. lihle808 said: when and how did Besrker planted her powers to Sieg? Episode 10, Frankenstein's noble phantasm has a chance of creating a second Frankenstein, that's what happened to Sieg when he was struck with the lightning. lihle808 said: I don't understand where did Ruler and Sieg found each other? On earth? On another world? I am still confused where? "Sieg in his Fafnir dragon form migrates the Greater Grail to the Reverse Side of the World. In the Reverse Side of the World, the grail cannot activate Amakusa Shirou Tokisada's wish of "Salvation of mankind through the Third Magic" simply because no humans exist there. Reaching the Reverse Side of the World as a Heroic Spirit is not impossible because Heroic Spirits have already become inhuman the moment they died; however, the probability is incredibly close to zero. In order to reach the Reverse Side to reunite with Sieg, Jeanne d’Arc essentially tried an infinite number of times from the Throne of Heroes, which was removed from the time axis." - Type-moon wiki |
| How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove |
| Pretty decent ending episode but still can't shake the feeling the romance and whole story about Sieg was way too forced during the series. Also, even though the last ep was kinda good it can't save all of the previous illogical, cringy mess from before that was Fate only in name. It really funny they tried to capitalize on something whole series struggled so badly to develop. Not really best adition to the Nasuverse, a lots of baseless action coupled with terrible dialogues with even worse developed characters. 4/10 Please forget this was ever part of Fate series. |
| this was a good satisfying ending to a kinda awful fate show (by fate standards ) didn't help it was a pain to watch each week (due to netflix) 6/10 because all the music was real good and solid action the rest not so much ,feel like extra might be what i wanted out of a another fate adaptation |
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| In case anyone is wondering how Waver has memories of Alexandra when his HG never happened is because in the Naruverse, certain powerful sorcerers have the ability to exist in multiple dimensions. |
| I don't know why people disliked this show. Personally, I thought it was better then the original overrated reused and recycled fate franchise with its different arcs and same characters. I like how story is action-packed, straightforward and doesn't waste time with meaningless things. But towards the end it did feel a little sloppy because I was expecting more creativity. I think the whole reverse side of the world etc. is pretty absurd. Plus what difference does Seig and Jeanne's fateful reunion make in that void like realm unless they magically travel back to earth and become human. And if I am not mistaken then I know for a fact that the grail is inherently evil so it might find a way back and maybe trigger Shiro's wish. So I feel like Seig could've wished for something else to stop Shiro wish but presumably the writer wanted some artistic and noble ending. Even though there wasn't much development I liked the characters in this one. Especially Astolfo who was quite entertaining to watch. I also liked Seigfried's backstory. Don't know why they had Shakespeare though who is neither a hero nor a villain yet he was able to delude Ruler and even summoned a hero like WTF? But I was a little disappointing with Mordred and Ruler. I mean Mordred couldn't even finish off Semiramis considering how powerful and exaggerated saber class is in Fate universe. Even Ruler's combat abilities seemed average. Initially I was concerned about Sieg because I thought the writers may just copy and paste Shiro Emiya's characteristic but I am glad they didn't. And because of that I actually liked Seig's character considering he wasn't naive, foolish, weak or obnoxious. Too bad the romance between Seig and Ruler didn't progress or developed that much. But Shiro Amakusa seems like a ripoff of Archer and Shiro Emiya. Anyways I thought it was a good show. |
komic said: In case anyone is wondering how Waver has memories of Alexandra when his HG never happened is because in the Naruverse, certain powerful sorcerers have the ability to exist in multiple dimensions. No, in this world Waver has participated in pseudo grail wars with Iskandar as his servant, that's why he knows about him. http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Waver_Velvet The world of Fate/Apocrypha did not have a Fourth Holy Grail War in Fuyuki, so Waver had instead participated in a subspecies Holy Grail War across the world with Rider as his Servant, in against Kayneth. He gained the title of Lord El-Melloi II in the same manner. FatalGaze said: And if I am not mistaken then I know for a fact that the grail is inherently evil so it might find a way back and maybe trigger Shiro's wish. Emiya Shirou is a much better character than Sieg, but you wouldn't know that by watching anime. |
| Good episode. But I do feel that they could have fleshed out things more. I think they gave Sieg too much power for just a homunculus. At least someone explained here on how Jeanne was able to meet Sieg. Still relying on wikia to know the plot is not good way of conveying the story. Still I love Jeanne D Arc!! She's the whole reason why I was hype for the Anime!!! I even had her Alter as my avatar!!! I wish there was a alternate ending where Jeanne did accept Amakusa Shiro's wish. She could have turned Jalter that moment and it would have been ace!! Anyways, I give it 8/10 just for Jeanne. I was hoping the Ruler class would be added in the main Fate series. A 4th route with Jeanne as Emiya's servant would be awesome!!!! Now we await for Fate Extra!! Saber Nero!! |
| A decent ending. The confession at the end was adorable and Shakespeare exit was funny. The last few episodes were great but overall, it was a fine show. 6/10. |
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| It seems the worst ending that i saw from 2017. 1) Off-panel final battle. 2) Gary Stu Sieg still stands. 3) Romance? between Assassin and Kotomine. At least is more believable than the SiegXJeanne 4) Astolfo lives. 5) Shakespeare died. 6) And the worst part, the ending: is the most forced romance that i ever seen in years between Jeanne and a generic overpower MC. So many interesting heroic spirits wasted for a boring Gary Stu. 2/5 for the episode. 3/10 for the anime. |
NurguburuFeb 7, 2018 6:37 PM
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| Was initially going to give this a 6/10, but I bumped it up to a 7/10 because the battle scenes were fucking outrageous and also because the ending made me catch feels. |
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| Weird end with this dragon … Well, Jeanne and Sieg finding each other … Why not. Nothing wrong with a route like that. All in all a great fate world. It started iteresting but only with the start of the second season I got this fate feeling with all those mixed up constellations, battles and so on. Also the OP/ED of the second season was way more fate-ish that those of S1. I enjoyed the final fights, too. But sadly that show could have been better executed. With all those charas it would have been better to stretch this show. Also some realy good charas died way to early (Frankenstein for example) or were completly wasted (Shakespear). Also why of all the trap servant went all the way to the end. Why including that trap nonesense anyway? Just make that chara female and everyone could focus on the stuff animated fate is all about. There are alot of other shows to use that gender flic-flac for. And more stunning visuals would have been better, some scenes were pretty bland. But nevertheless, would give this fate series a 0,85. And I dont like those explosion sounds. =D Well, I dont know the game. I hope in the future there is a chance to set a different route, I hope a darker or more tragic route into motion. |
| This anime ending doesn't do much for you if you don't buy Jeanne x Sieg. It's pretty meh to me. Amakusa x Semiramis was more believable and interesting. Jeanne figures out she loves Sieg while traveling to what seems to be the Nasuverse dragon/other creature astral plane. Great. Maybe it's somehow in Fate/Extella. Heh. I kinda wish we could have gotten the adventures of Astolfo and Laetitia buddy comedy or something out of this, but nope. They just said they would meet again perhaps. It was cute seeing them embrace each other. Waver or whatever he's calling himself these days makes the continuity more odd to the point I might try to sort it for myself by checking the wiki. A slightly different part of the multiverse. Justeaze is cool though. The explosion sounds and also Achilles/El Vlado/Atalante's deaths were a nope if Astolfo got to live. Just let them all live then lol though I do get that it was because Sieg was still alive. Pretty much the last eventful fight was Sieg versus Amakusa that got cut short. At least one of Amakusa's attacks sounded like something out of JJBA. Hurray for Frankenstein. 6/10 mediocre series that made me unsure if I want to watch more Fate at worst. I'm willing to give Heaven's Feel a chance though. |
Toxic_MongooseFeb 14, 2018 6:42 PM
| This ending was embarrassingly bad. They just kept pulling shit out of nowhere that had no previous explanation and no rationale. It was so out of step with the rest of the episodes that it felt like a finale pulled from a completely different [awful] show. Overall, while there was some fun to be had with the battles, this series was a massive disappointment. The plot was complete nonsense. The most interesting characters were the servants, yet we were forced to endure the boring and derivative Sieg and Ruler. And let's not forget the loli servant, dressed seductively for no practical reason other than fap material for pervs. Two full episodes dedicated to that craptastic character. Even to those whom I know already like Zero and UBW, I couldn't recommend this in good conscience. All style, no substance. |
| Gotta say I really enjoyed this show, the focus on large scale battles did feel fresh compared to rest of the Fate franchise although the character aspect did take a bit of a hit. |
kingoftheearth said: HEY WHAT ABOUT WAVER, THE FOURTH HOLY GRAIL WAR WAS NEVER HAPPENED SO HOW DID WAVER MENTION ABOUT "ISHKANDAR".... IT CONFUSED AS FUCK @@@ He participated in pseudo grail wars with Iskandar as his servant. |
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