Akame ga Kill! Chapter 77 Discussion

nobody199 said:
I am confused as to what was I watching. Esdeath breaks Akame's sword and throws her back, she stands up run to other side pick Esdeath's sword on the ground, turns around jumps at Esdeath and throws murasame's fragments while THEY WERE IN THE AIR(all this time?) at Esdeath? I mean the fucking speed needed to do that.
Besides that, The snow storm gave Esdeath full acess to her abilities so why not covering the ground of ice? Why not lift with ice in her body and start attacking akame from above until she is dead? Goddammit she could make a giant ice monster armor, but prefers to get out of safety. So much options to kill and she is supposed to be a general! Someone who thinks! Really I am not targeting Esdeath( she is probably the most important character of the series), but the author who made this.
Really when you have someone capable of doing all that, pretty much every way to try and justify that she is going to loose is bullshit, because at this point she coudn't loose anymore.
At the end day Esdeath wasn't killed by some smart strategy, powerfull technique,she was killed by a power boost............really?!
It's almost an ofense for the character who pretty much is main motive to keep watching the ENTIRE manga.
Fairwell, to the ice queen, I couldn't read her final moments, but when the translation comes I will give a higher note for the chapter

Sukebe14 said:
Finally bitch is death. She was so ridiculously overpowered that it ruined entire manga.

ixarising said:


Esdeath simply wants the pleasure of fighting a death match with her enemies. She doesn't care much about normal logic like freezing them to the ground or anything to get an advantage. If the opponent can push her to the limit, it'll be better for her.

Sanc2ary said:
Some places are starting to translate 77 into English, and man...

I am a complete and total Mine homer, and I have HATED Esdeath for the whole series, however, after getting to read what her last words were before she freezes herself...ugh. It absolutely destroyed my insides. I realized that I really enjoyed hating her.

So, to all the Esdeath fans out there...*Salute*

Sorry about your Waifu, for real. :(

keragamming said:
Dry, boring, anticlimatic, predictable, plain, rush, average ect. That is what I felt for this chapter. Esdeath died, simple because the manga is ending next chapter, that is the vibes I was getting it just felt contrived.

Meh.

Axicia said:
Best girl died. I preferred the anime ending, at least he did not get into a relationship with a bullshit generic tsun twintail girl too deeply.

Yeah, bias.

Roy_Focker said:
Esdeath was wrong at the end... Tatsumi did look at her but he realized that she was too far gone to be redeemed… she chooses her bloody path to being the number one predator in the world before love so that is why she didn’t end up with Tastumi… thus her regret?!

There is no question that the shadow in the background is Leone body... Fat bastard is gonna get his in next chapter... Yay! Leone might die in the process, assuming that she is still alive and not possessed...

One question tho... is Suzuka alive???

Esdeath falls in this chapter like a true OP villain, maybe a cliché but nonetheless a necessity (if she did all of that you said then it would be a bad end for the whole world in Akame ga Kill/universe)... Her arrogance was her downfall… She herself said it the best she loses sight/focus of Murasame.

This in my opinion is a great thing if Mangaka-san intended this... Akame is one person who deserve to live her life in peace, that was the only thing that I didn’t like about the anime ending (she was still on her quest [discarding her humanity] and continue the fighting) with this she can finally have her reunion with his sis and maybe who knows maybe she has the chance to become an aunt...

Your idea of Tatsumi sound good maybe his elder (in his town) hold the key to that...

MilviBritannia said:
Is tatsumi really back? Did he evolve to counter the poison? Can't wait to see the final chapter, hopefully things will be explained!

Akame explained to the doctor that she felt two essence one powerful and the other one weak/fading and she aimed at the powerful one thus saving Tatsumi even herself wasn’t sure it would be certain that Tasumi survived she tried and the result was in getting his friend freed and still kicking.

HollowIchigo58 said:
Thank you god, that Overrated Psycho Ice bitch is finally dead, goodbyez have pleasant journey to Hell where you never see Tatsumi ever again, now Esdeath is Esdead.



Also yay the manga is not a copy of the shitty anime because Tatsumi is alive now him and Mine can get married after he fixes his dragon problem, also Tatsumi looks kinda creepy when he smiles in his Tyrant Form.

Now time for Leone to smash that fat piece of shit's skull in and please don't kill her too.

I'm having a field day right now.

DarK-LaW said:
Thank god that ice bitch is finally dead. Kinda sad that Tatsumi got stuck in that dragon form I would have prefered that he died honestly. It will probably make Mine very sad when she finally wakes up and see him like this.

zhaoyun99 said:


She actually used those 3 skill except Barriers sparingly like ixa said. Also, even before Leone's torture scene, she was already showed to be a sadist when she reduced a war hero to a bdsm slave. Also, one thing for sure is that if her opponent was like Akame or Tatsumi then it gave her more reason to play around. Also, Ice Spikes was rather a waste to use on 1 or 2 enemies anyway and Tatsumi's current form just fly his ass above it since it was a crowd clearing tech anyway and Ice Meteor against a tiny ass enemies? She could just use it as momentum like in this chapter to reach Esdese anyway. Also, since Tatsumi participate, he can neutralize her time freeze as well.

Roy_Focker said:
@NathanielKeehl

I was ok with the outcome... that doesn’t mean I don’t understand you... but Esdeath in the fights vs Night Raid that you mentioned she was practically fresh (she only fought that opponent) and in the others, she had help form the other Jäegers, the Four Kouken Temple Rakshasa demons, Budou. This time she was a one Man Girl army she fought Tatsumi first then she created the Ice cavalry (Great power consumption even if she reabsorbed them and created a huge blizzard she needed energy to those techniques) to fight the revolution army (thousands) plus fodder Teigu holders and then she brawled against Akame plus in the fight she used her time freeze power to stop the curse from killing her, that took a toll in her stamina and power + her trill of the fight that she was dominating (Akame was getting weak by the moment) and her arrogance was her downfall like I said not expecting Akame to reach her when his new ability enhanced her reaction time, speed and power. I bet that was the plan from the beginning from Najenda and in that sense, it works out for the revolution... You can say that Akame was tired to from her others fighting but to be honest Akame brawls up to Esdeath were a light warm up compared to what Esdeath have to deal with.

Because of that I didn’t mind the way her demise came up…

Sanc2ary said:
Did the death counter go off for Esdeath? I don't remember. I suppose it's possible for her to somehow not be dead. I mean, of all tiegu users, she is the only one who drank hers. It was already kind of fused with her.

It seems to me that there are going to be a lot of Cliffhangers at the end of the next chapter I don't see how they're going to be able to wrap everything up.

Tatsumi is a dragon. Is Mine going to wake up? What about Wave and Kurome? Is Esdeath really dead? And then their is still Leone and Honest, and what is Akame going to do without Murasame and her sister still alive? Not to mention there's a whole new government that needs to be installed and that kind of stuff never goes smoothly.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were left with a severe Cliffhanger ending hinting that Esdeath is still alive, or at least het teigu is. Leaving room for a spin off if the author decided to make on.

Roy_Focker said:
@NathanielKeehl

The same can be said about strong (far superior characters in techniques and power) characters and their arrogance clouding her/his behavior in anime & manga... DBZ - Freeza, DBS - Zamasu, FMA - Greed, Naruto - Madara, Bleach - Yhwach and manny more...

But that is the point Esdeath and Akame are not equal because of the things that I mentioned in my previous comments that was evidently showed in their fight (when Night Raid was going to rescue/save Tasumi) but here she was exhausted plus Murasame curse was meant to be superior to Esdeath Teigu techniques and it is obvious that a villain of his caliber would never have shown to his opponent that she was getting weak... Heck you can say that is was the first time in her entire whole life that she was pushed to the max (first by all of those fights + a quick brawl with Tatsumi and her final fight with Akame) she is a hunter when an animal speaking n hunting terms shows weakness she is the prey... maybe she didn’t want to hurt her pride, maybe she didn’t think she was getting weaker, maybe the author planned all of this (Nagenda plan [he was the one wrote that into the story]) or not, who knows... What I’m trying to say here is if the author make Esdeath fight like you mentioned he has 2 choices extend the manga or Esdeath defeating all of his enemies becoming the ruler of the world...

Like I said early... I understand your points they are valid... but maybe they didn’t fit in Mangaka-san plans for ending this manga in the way he wanted…

NathanielKeehl said:


It really is an insult not just to the greatest character of the series, but to the readers. It's absolutely obvious that the author couldn't think of any better way to end Esdeath than to kill her with a power up and make her stupid.

Forget about freezing the ground or attacking from the air, Esdeath had so many opportunities to land a blow and she didn't. She did not harm Akame in any significant way. That's simply out of character. Not only that, she turned weaker and was incapable of blocking far too many of Akame's attacks, I mean, for crying out loud, she was mutilated.

And yeah, that sword thing was pure BS.

NathanielKeehl said:
Except that when you take into account what I said about Akame, they should have started that final fight on equal footing. And in any case, Esdeath would not have fought as badly as she did. Arrogance and overconfidence do not justify it, she knew, and her internal dialogue tells us, that she was fighting with a strong opponent. She, based on her character, would have played around.

All those other reasons you're citing now, don't really hold up. The villains I mentioned were also proud. Yet all of them showed signs of their exhaustion. There is no reason why Esdeath would not have done so.

We do agree on one thing. The mangaka needed to end the manga quickly and so rushed the fight that should have been epic. In the process he ruined it.

Well, I have thought for a long time now that he is a crappy author. Now I have another reason to think so.

Sanc2ary said:
Did the death counter go off for Esdeath? I don't remember. I suppose it's possible for her to somehow not be dead. I mean, of all tiegu users, she is the only one who drank hers. It was already kind of fused with her.

It seems to me that there are going to be a lot of Cliffhangers at the end of the next chapter I don't see how they're going to be able to wrap everything up.

Tatsumi is a dragon. Is Mine going to wake up? What about Wave and Kurome? Is Esdeath really dead? And then their is still Leone and Honest, and what is Akame going to do without Murasame and her sister still alive? Not to mention there's a whole new government that needs to be installed and that kind of stuff never goes smoothly.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were left with a severe Cliffhanger ending hinting that Esdeath is still alive, or at least het teigu is. Leaving room for a spin off if the author decided to make on.

Old_Raven said:

This all over. 30charsbullshitweiners

Osten112 said:
Tatsumi still alive


10/10

AllenVonStein said:


wait don't jump to that conclusion

there's no way he can live as a dragon

it will consume him sooner or later

NathanielKeehl said:


You and I both feel the same way, bro.

azy1999 said:
Ohh yeah!! Tatsumi survived, and it seems Leone is alive too. But I feel bad for Tatsumi's situation, how is he going to marry Mine in this form, the tragedy shall continue lol

KurosoraRyuga said:
how did esdeath survive getting her fingers chopped by murasame?
Did she freeze the poison or something? or did she chop off the infected part before it spread?

MilviBritannia said:


Who knows...maybe the former, maybe the latter...maybe both. She seems to get asspull after asspull irrespective of the situation she is in. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they ice particles all joined together and reformed her again.

On a serious note, she probably froze it because she reforms ice fingers almost immediately I believe.

I am truly glad she is dead and good riddance to the overpowered ice nazi.

KurosoraRyuga said:


Idk, I actually liked her. I think the author made her way too op though but, there was still a more logical way to beat her. The author made it so that tatsumi still lived on but didn't make him join in the the fight sighs. He was literally flying above her, did he just want to watch is that it!? I mean sure maybe it took a while for him to regain his strength but still. All his fights, showing that he was the only one who can truly rival esdeath thanks to his power to evolve, wasted... Damn lol, I'm being too salty here. This was my first manga tbh, or at least the first one that I actually read til I caught up so I'm actually trying to be nice here and I did enjoy it so far, it's just that the end is being rushed af.

Oh, and one more thing, Why did esdeath even call murasame a dangerous sword if she can just freeze the poison!?

ixarising said:
What if Akame stab her in the organs? She can't really freeze the poison you know, that's why she chop her hands and fingers off, so that the poison wouldn't spread to her body, but she can't do that with her organs.

WhiteWolfEyes21 said:


Then the poison becomes irrelevant. Murasame is a sword. Poison or not, a wound to the organs would leave you incapacitated.

Which actually makes me realize just how bad this fight was written. In the previous chapter, Akame catches Esdeath off guard and barely cuts her arm. This of course causes Esdeath to cut the entire arm off...something Akame could of did. Better yet, Akame could have stabbed her through the heart or sliced off her head off. She got in a free shot on Esdeath and decided to barely cut her...on her arm.

Also, I agree with the other poster that Tatsumi should have done more in the final fight. I expected his power to go through the roof when he evolved, but was left extremely disappointed. He put up a better fight when he fought her alone, before fully transforming.

There was nothing exciting or clever about Akame getting a power boost and magically becoming stronger than Esdeath. I wanted more of a group effort. Particularly between characters that we know. All the new teigu users were unknown. We didn't know how strong they were other than being stronger than fodder, which doesn't mean much. Because of this, I couldn't be too impressed with Esdeath stomping them.

Lastly, wasn't Akame's trump card supposed to make her lose her sanity or humanity or whatever? She seemed pretty stable to me, during and after the fight.

ixarising said:


If Akame pierce Esdeath with a normal katana instead of Murasame in the end, do you think Esdeath would definitely die? That's uncertain, that's why she said Murasame is dangerous.

Also how the hell did you two reach the conclusion that Esdeath can freeze the poison? Esdeath cannot freeze the poison. If she could freeze the poison why would she need to chop her hands off in the first place. It's because she can't freeze the poison that she had to chop it off to prevent the poison from spreading. And that's just the hands, if Akame cuts her in the abdomen what would she do? Cut herself in half and hope to survive?

ixarising said:
@WhiteWolfEyes21, @KurosoraRyuga

If Akame pierce Esdeath with a normal katana instead of Murasame in the end, do you think Esdeath would definitely die? That's uncertain, that's why she said Murasame is dangerous.

Also how the hell did you two reach the conclusion that Esdeath can freeze the poison? Esdeath cannot freeze the poison. If she could freeze the poison why would she need to chop her hands off in the first place. It's because she can't freeze the poison that she had to chop it off to prevent the poison from spreading. And that's just the hands, if Akame cuts her in the abdomen what would she do? Cut herself in half and hope to survive?

nobody199 said:


Holy fucking shit, her last words and thought are so inhuman and nonsensical. All the traces of a good character changed and synthesized into some fucking obsession with Tatsumi.
I can only hope they do some homage to all the dead characters, perhaps? Akame ga kill biggest mistakes was to kill first the most developed and likeable characters like Bors, Wave,Bulat,Liver... and leave the rotting shit alive.