Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 24 Discussion

TSM_Flux said:


Lelouch is immune to at least.

Really nice episode showing off our one true god, Tatsuya Onii-Sama.

Cocobean32 said:
Now I can't wait for this anime's next episode AND sword art on lines next one. Both of the animes have had build up episodes for quite some time now. I hope I don't explode before Saturday gets here...

odysseyrh said:


I know what you mean but for a second there it looked like Kirito was about to have his own kind of blow up

rodac said:
I think the episode poll results tell the story. While most people feel that this show has hit its stride, particularly as the information has come together about Tatsuya's emotional modifications (courtesy of his aunt) and how the technology of magic works, there are a few who are not going to let anything change their opinion which they express multiple times in discussion.

While Tatsuya is clearly the most overpowered, there are a number of other students who also have abilities that render any combat with ordinary humans pretty short and sweet. Juumonji, Mayumi, Miyuki, Erika: any one of these will mop the floor with a squad of regular soldiers and not raise a sweat. This is what the ability to use magic does, and that ability is increasing as each generation of magicians is bred to be stronger by arranged marriages orchestrated by the ten clans.

While I haven't read the LN's, I can see where this is ultimately going. You can't expect a growing population of superior humans to accept being controlled by a government composed of normals. At some point conflict is going to break out, particularly if a technology (using the dismembered brain-matter of magicians) exists to allow normal people and governments to access that power without having to deal with the desires of the magicians themselves. Self-preservation dictates that the magicians have to be on top, probably through the ten clans. They already seem to wield significant power as witnessed by the deferential attitude taken by the commander of the special forces towards Juumonji and Mayuma--they may be high-school students but as heirs apparent to two of the ten clans, they are extremely powerful individuals and could probably have him removed from command if they exerted that influence. And the magic high-school system is not an ordinary school system, it is the training ground for an aristocratic elite that is already beginning to dominate the state, students who attend there already outrank normal adults.

Plun said:
Beast Mode Activated! :D

SweetCoconut said:
Tatsuya, your OPness returned in this episode huh? And can someone explain what symbolize what Miyuki did to Tatsuya at the end? Is that for power-up?

Zapredon said:
Definitely your above average Mahouka episode. 4/5 from me. Still think this show need to tone down Tatsuya's Stuness/OPness or make the villain better rather than a bunch a retarded thug.

konatachan80 said:

All male MC's can't be crybabies. I think it is more than enough with the 90-95% that apparently already are.
Or rather, they usually start that way, then they usually move on to crying/whining while doing whatever the series is about.
However, if they're in the presence of a female then their appearance and behaviour is usually that of a
person scared out of his wits.

kei78 said:
I just hope they wont cut Erika's scene next episodes

kei78 said:
I just hope they wont cut Erika's scene next episodes

Emotives said:
Yeah the anime is only for enjoyment now. The plot is either weak or the anime has not adapted very well from the light novels. There is no character development and the characters don't really stand out to me. Yes Tatsuya is overpowered so he can't get character development from 'lose fight --> train- -> win fight', but at least tell the audience how he got his powers. How he became overpowered, more detail on how he was created, his past, family and background. Otherwise it just feels like an empty plot with asspulls. I still enjoy the anime though, I really like OP characters kicking ass and I like the soundtracks + OP/ED.

Anyway Tatsuya has byakugan, can stop bullets, instant recovery, hands that can chop off arms. I'm calling it, next weeks episode we're gonna see the summoning of the nine-tailed fox, Miyuki released the seal ;)

Zapredon said:
Can you name the anime in my watch/completed list that has the type of MC you mention? Either you watch too much anime with that kind of MCs or I don't watch too much of anime with that kind of MCs. I only remember Yukiteru from Mirai Nikki and Shinji from EVA from my list.

On a side note,if this show really want to impress and show how badass and OP Tatsuya really is when he beat all those bad guys in Yokohama arc,at least do it at Alucard epicness level.

Nidhoeggr said:
Something is wrong with your show when a show about table tennis has more fluid movement and better choreography in action scenes than the one big action barrage you hyped up for episodes. Why can't his overpoweredness be ENTERTAINING? You know, like Alucard from Hellsing or Dark Schneider from bastard...

Oh well, it's not like I expect something out of it anymore. But even then it disappoints...

Satan-sama said:
It's true that he's overpowered but you can't compared him to someone like Alucard. Alucard uses his overwhelming and brutal powers to erase his opponents/enemies but Tatsuya uses his brain and his weak magical abilities -_- just to protect his younger sister

Satan-sama said:
It's true that he's overpowered but you can't compared him to someone like Alucard. Alucard uses his overwhelming and brutal powers to erase his opponents/enemies but Tatsuya uses his brain and his weak magical abilities -_- just to protect his younger sister

Satan-sama said:


It's true that he's overpowered but you can't compared him to someone like Alucard. Alucard uses his overwhelming and brutal powers to erase his opponents/enemies but Tatsuya uses his brain and his weak magical abilities -_- just to protect his younger sister

Satan-sama said:


It's true that he's overpowered but you can't compared him to someone like Alucard. Alucard uses his overwhelming and brutal powers to erase his opponents/enemies but Tatsuya uses his brain and his weak magical abilities -_- just to protect his younger sister

konatachan80 said:

Yukki, Shinji, Raki (a whiner almost at Yukki's level), Yoshimori (while not that much of a whiner, he's
pretty much whipped), Kira Yamato, Kaneki, Rito (if his age isn't around 5 or so), Minato Sahashi++.

Kirito seems to be scared of females (and almost everything else nowadays)..at least according to the voice and behaviour.

Some might have a reason to whine (for a while), but it gets old very quickly.
I've seen quite alot of series, and that is one thing that tend to get annoying.

Akatsuki and Tatsuya is on the other end of the scale.
It would be nice if there was more of those types too.

Jirachier said:


Tatsuya has literally the most OP magic in the series. It's not that his magic is weak, it's that he wants to keep the things he can do a secret and so he learned things such as martial arts, he will ONLY use the minimum level of power necessary to perform an action when he is surrounded by people he doesn't want to reveal his powers to. You will come to realize that Tatsuya is just as absurd as Alucard in the next episode.

wrenchbread said:




You call his magic that is capable of wrecking an entire army singlehandedly weak? Shit, bro, gimme some of what you're smokin'.

darkreaperix said:


You still think that lose fight>train>win fight is character development???

Volume 8 of the LN (we are now at vol 7 in the anime) touched some of his background,past and family but in Miyuki's POV.How he got his hax powers?Like all magicians in Mahouka he was born with it,and improved it by training as Miyuki's guardian and later as part of the 101'st battalion.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
It's kind of funny to see the borderline 180 in opinion on this show when things start to get more violent here. Just sort of further confirms this idea I've often had about how MAL equates action with quality and it really all does come down to that plain and simple. No action and largely dialogue driven episodes equals this show sucks and is the worst for weeks on end. Suddenly the plot moves into an action and brutality phase and even the complaints of how OP Tatsuya is turn into his praises. It's just so flip floppy and fickle I can't help but laugh.

Shangetsu said:

The choice of word he used is correct. What Tatsuya is doing is 'mostly not magic' because his capability with magic is actually so weak he wouldn't have been able to enter first high at all without his technical score backing him up.

Now I doubt you care enough to read about why Tatsuya's abilities aren't magic so you may stop there, the rest of this post is for anyone that might actually be interested.

Modern magic is divided into four major categories: Systematic, Perception, Non-Systematic, and Outer-Systematic.

Systematic magic are magic based upon the eight major type, in short they are magic that affect the laws of physic but are still bound by it. Applying a force to move a box, increasing one's weight or making yourself invisible by refracting light are example of what you are able to do with systematic magic.
The eight major type are roughly as follow: mass, speed, movement, oscillation, convergence, dispersion, absorption and release. To read a summary about how each of these type work I'd suggest you to read the wiki.

It is important to state that most magic are systematic magic and those are the magics Tatsuya absolutely suck at because most of them require high processing speed and power. Systematic magic are divided into processes, a process being basically a temporary alteration to the information body of an object. Most systematic magics use a number of processes that Tatsuya isn't able to handle leaving him able to use only low systematic magics.

Perception magic is like it's name would suggest, magic that convey information to the user. Tatsuya's elemental sight and Mayumi's multi scope are example of such magic. Tatsuya cannot 'see' what happens two rooms away, his elemental sight only transmit to him what happens there in form of data.

Non-systematic magic are a bit more touchy to understand. When magician use magic they emit psions. These psions are particles that possess both speed and information and are what will actually travel to the object you are casting the magic on to rewrite it's information. If you use a spell to move a box toward you then you will emit psions that hold the information to go modify the box's information so that it moves toward you, their speed will varies between each magician. Faster psion emission means a better magician. Non-systematic magic aim not to rewrite a physical object's information but rather these psions.
When Tatsuya use cast jamming or gram demolition, he uses non-systematic magic.

Outer systematic magic are magic that doesn't manipulate the physical realm but rather the spirits. Mind control is an example of outer systematic magic.

Then outside modern magic there are still other type of magic such as ancient magic (which Mikihiko uses), and superpowers (like the counselor at school's hiding magic)

What does all these magics have in common even while being totally different? They alter something, they modify something. Magic is basically the ability to modify the world. Tatsuya has been gifted with the power of decomposition and restoration but those do not qualify as magic. If you think about it it's quite simple, they aren't modifying anything, they are either destroying or creating something from scratch. You can argue about how those power are stronger or even more practical than magic but they still aren't magic. Tatsuya is deemed a monster because of those inhuman abilities.



Oh look a tl;dr probably nobody will read, oh well it's written so I might as well post it.