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deadoptimist said: Yep, I agree with both points. I would like to see that Saazbaum's agenda is more complicated than simple revenge or even quest for power, but I don't have much hope after the last two episodes. And again, 1 more thing to confirm my suspicion that Saazbaum is hiding something is that he said he was rescued by Dr. Troyard during Heaven's Fall. But as I can see, he escaped that bombardment just fine. He also managed to bring back a video clip ... Or maybe it's a bad writing and I'm thinking too much. It's really hard to tell when the writer chooses to reveal things piece by piece. |
chickenonthepan said: deadoptimist said: Yep, I agree with both points. I would like to see that Saazbaum's agenda is more complicated than simple revenge or even quest for power, but I don't have much hope after the last two episodes. And again, 1 more thing to confirm my suspicion that Saazbaum is hiding something is that he said he was rescued by Dr. Troyard during Heaven's Fall. But as I can see, he escaped that bombardment just fine. He also managed to bring back a video clip ... Or maybe it's a bad writing and I'm thinking too much. It's really hard to tell when the writer chooses to reveal things piece by piece. Then would his action letting Slaine free be useless ? They Story of this series hasn't get any significant improvement yet. 2 episodes left and i doubt everything will be explained out, judging from spoiler of the title for the next 2 episodes, We might get action episodes on episode 11 and a big cliffhanger on episode 12 |
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Darklight0303 said: Would anyone be kind enough to translate? It's just saying Slaine's popularity/support is amazing. It's using typical 'factory sales' talk as it happens in Japan when they speak of this (think about the nonsense "Team something" in the English fandom, only more sales oriented). |
MrNTR said: Why would the Captain NOT let the teenage boy do it if he knows what he's doing. He was there FIRST and was already tending to her, no point forcing him to step aside when he's doing a damn fine job. I know you prefer Slaine x Asseylum but its pathetic to let your personal bias make you say such shit. Of course him giving her CPR was to tease the shipping but the act itself makes perfect sense within the context of the situation. And Inaho and Asseylum have bad chemistry? As oppose to Slaine you mean? Even though Slaine and Asseylum only have TWO freaking scenes that the viewers are shown? Slaine's advantages are his undeniably greater devotion and his long history with her, which is certainly a lot, but if there is gonna be a 2nd season, there's plenty of time for Inaho to catch up. Inaho met Darzana in the corridor, so they arrived at the same time. Maybe Darzana went to call the doctor instead, but I'd prefer to see it in the episode, not deduct after three pages of Inaho x Asseylum fans arguing with me. It just seemed to me that in such a case a person with more experience was better. It is even stranger considering that Darzana doesn't know how good Inaho is at everything. She even comments that she is surprised that he has paid attention to the instructions, when he already does the CPR. Why does she let him do it if she isn't sure? And nope, I do not ship Asseylum x Slaine. I like Slaine the most of all the characters and am pretty vocal about it, but I dislike the princess and dislike that Slaine is reduced to his relationship towards her. Also I am not a dedicated shipper, so I don't mind triangle. I don't try hard, but I really don't see good chemstry between Inaho and Asseylum in this scene, sorry. |
| Inaho does CPR and brings Princess Asseylum back. Inaho disarms Rayet to prevent her from shooting herself. That's like two lives saved! Good job, Inaho. Good thing Saazbaum is more of revenge rather than all Terrans are scum. But Orlane (maybe) died from Heaven's Fall. So is Heaven's Fall Earth's fault? Or does Saazbaum just want someone to blame it on? Nevertheless, Saazbaum's landing his castle. And I don't know how they're going to stop him. Meanwhile, Inaho and Princess Asseylum become friends while Slaine gets Tharsis. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
Fireego said: Inaho does CPR and brings Princess Asseylum back. Inaho disarms Rayet to prevent her from shooting herself. That's like two lives saved! Good job, Inaho. Good thing Saazbaum is more of revenge rather than all Terrans are scum. But Orlane (maybe) died from Heaven's Fall. So is Heaven's Fall Earth's fault? Or does Saazbaum just want someone to blame it on? Nevertheless, Saazbaum's landing his castle. And I don't know how they're going to stop him. Meanwhile, Inaho and Princess Asseylum become friends while Slaine gets Tharsis. ^I totally agree. |
Seiryuu2 said: Then would his action letting Slaine free be useless ? They Story of this series hasn't get any significant improvement yet. 2 episodes left and i doubt everything will be explained out, judging from spoiler of the title for the next 2 episodes, We might get action episodes on episode 11 and a big cliffhanger on episode 12 Let me tell you one blunt thing that will upset many Slaine fans. XD What I think is that: Saazbaum doesn't consider Slaine is a threat or someone useful. He tried to save Slaine because he has a dept to pay. That's all. He tells Slaine the truth (or half of it) because he needs someone to talk with. He feels conflicted inside him (look at his face when he sees Hime calls for peace this ep and when he orders his castle to come down). He probably think that: if Slaine chooses to follow him, good, he has 1 more underling. If Slaine chooses to fight against him, no problem, his dept is paid, now he can kill Slaine. Saazbaum is quite noble in my opinion. He underestimating Slaine may make him pay a great price. We will see about that. |
Just_ChickenSep 6, 2014 7:52 PM
Fireego said: Inaho does CPR and brings Princess Asseylum back. Inaho disarms Rayet to prevent her from shooting herself. That's like two lives saved! Good job, Inaho. Good thing Saazbaum is more of revenge rather than all Terrans are scum. But Orlane (maybe) died from Heaven's Fall. So is Heaven's Fall Earth's fault? Or does Saazbaum just want someone to blame it on? Nevertheless, Saazbaum's landing his castle. And I don't know how they're going to stop him. Meanwhile, Inaho and Princess Asseylum become friends while Slaine gets Tharsis. I can't wait to see Slaine using Tharsis ^,^ |
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chickenonthepan said: Seiryuu2 said: Then would his action letting Slaine free be useless ? They Story of this series hasn't get any significant improvement yet. 2 episodes left and i doubt everything will be explained out, judging from spoiler of the title for the next 2 episodes, We might get action episodes on episode 11 and a big cliffhanger on episode 12 Let me tell you one blunt thing that will upset many Slaine fans. XD What I think is that: Saazbaum doesn't consider Slaine is a threat or someone useful. He tried to save Slaine because he has a dept to pay. That's all. He tells Slaine the truth (or half of it) because he needs someone to. He feels conflicted inside him (look at his face when he sees Hime calls for peace this ep and when he orders his castle to come down). He probably think that: if Slaine chooses to follow him, good, he has 1 more underling. If Slaine chooses to fight against him, no problem, his dept is paid, now he can kill Slaine. Saazbaum is quite noble in my opinion. He underestimating Slaine may make him pay a great price. We will see about that. That quite explains it, Sooner or later he will regrets his decision to do it as same as Inaho. Inaho is letting free rayet and fully rust her it's a bit cliche. |
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chickenonthepan said: Seiryuu2 said: Then would his action letting Slaine free be useless ? They Story of this series hasn't get any significant improvement yet. 2 episodes left and i doubt everything will be explained out, judging from spoiler of the title for the next 2 episodes, We might get action episodes on episode 11 and a big cliffhanger on episode 12 Let me tell you one blunt thing that will upset many Slaine fans. XD What I think is that: Saazbaum doesn't consider Slaine is a threat or someone useful. He tried to save Slaine because he has a dept to pay. That's all. He tells Slaine the truth (or half of it) because he needs someone to talk with. He feels conflicted inside him (look at his face when he sees Hime calls for peace this ep and when he orders his castle to come down). He probably think that: if Slaine chooses to follow him, good, he has 1 more underling. If Slaine chooses to fight against him, no problem, his dept is paid, now he can kill Slaine. Saazbaum is quite noble in my opinion. He underestimating Slaine may make him pay a great price. We will see about that. Nee, after reading your first theory, I believe everything you write >.< |
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Maryruss said: I can't wait to see Slaine using Tharsis ^,^ That may be a bait though. Slaine has no power to activate Aldnoah, as of now. It will not be a surprise when he just takes a sky carrier. XD |
chickenonthepan said: Maryruss said: I can't wait to see Slaine using Tharsis ^,^ That may be a bait though. Slaine has no power to activate Aldnoah, as of now. It will not be a surprise when he just takes a sky carrier. XD ^Exactly! I was wondering that too! Maybe he'll meet the Princess somehow and she'll power it up! |
| I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| i wonder how can Slaine use the Tharsis without an Aldnoah power |
chickenonthepan said: Let me tell you one blunt thing that will upset many Slaine fans. XD What I think is that: Saazbaum doesn't consider Slaine is a threat or someone useful. He tried to save Slaine because he has a dept to pay. That's all. He tells Slaine the truth (or half of it) because he needs someone to talk with. He feels conflicted inside him (look at his face when he sees Hime calls for peace this ep and when he orders his castle to come down). He probably think that: if Slaine chooses to follow him, good, he has 1 more underling. If Slaine chooses to fight against him, no problem, his dept is paid, now he can kill Slaine. Saazbaum is quite noble in my opinion. He underestimating Slaine may make him pay a great price. We will see about that. I think that you're right in this regard, and I don't see it as particularly upsetting. >< But I hate when a young and inexperienced character is given too much credit by old and mighty without good reason. But Saazbaum warned Slaine not to oppose him, so he views it as a possibility. And he keeps Slaine cuffed. The whole part with Tharsis is simply strange. He didn't give it to Slaine - it was not stated verbally. And I can't see any reason for him to give the top class martian weapon to somebody whose plans he doesn't know. It is unclear wheather Slaine can use Tharsis too. Btw I don't know if the sky-carrier was aldnoah-powered. Was it? To be honest, I'd prefer if Saazbaum was more of a schemer. |
deadoptimist said: But Saazbaum warned Slaine not to oppose him, so he views it as a possibility. And he keeps Slaine cuffed. I guess the cuffed part is the work of his underling. Slaine pointed a knife at Saazbaum and he doesn't shake a little. XD Oh, and I just realize a SUPER interesting part that I don't think of before. why am I so stupid? Not that the one who built the ship knew exactly the power of the drive, they knew exactly the name of the kat: Deucalion. who else can know that name except its pilot? (Martians don't know anything about this ship) I can pretty much confirm that Orlene survived that bombardment now. :D |
Just_ChickenSep 6, 2014 8:25 PM
| Hays... 2 respondent CPR --- see a person on the ground Step 1 - check for the safety of the surroundings, if scene is safe proceed to the person on the ground Step 2 - respondent 1: try to wake up the person, check for breathing; not breathing Step 3 - respondent 1 will activate Emergency response and call for help, respondent 2's job (captain) call for help and she did get the AED/defib Step 4 - check for pulse; no pulse --- start CPR 30:2 (compressions:breath) 5 cycles Step 5 - AED/defib arrives, if patient is wet, must be place in a dry place (also can be done during the scene survey), CPR should be uninterrupted as much as possible, put the defib Step 6 - the AED will check for the patient's heart rhythm, will say if for defib or not. Shock or no shock is delivered, continue CPR, once 5 cycle is finish, respondent 1 and 2 may switch place. Step 7 - just repeat the 30:2 5 cycle CPR (approx 2min) then a 10 second rhythm check/switch position and if still no pulse repeat CPR. Observations: - I think they did a very good job on the CPR thing, Inaho assumes responded 1 role and the captain the respondent 2 role. - I assume that after 5 cycles of CPR that the captain asked if they can switch position, but Inaho said he still can do it so I don't see any issue there. - the AED/defib actually detects a flat line, supposedly you are not going to deliver a shock, but I assume it's an error on the story-teller's side that can be ignored. |
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chickenonthepan said: deadoptimist said: But Saazbaum warned Slaine not to oppose him, so he views it as a possibility. And he keeps Slaine cuffed. I guess the cuffed part is the work of his underling. Slaine pointed a knife at Saazbaum and he doesn't shake a little. XD Oh, and I just realize a SUPER interesting part that I don't think of before. why am I so stupid? Not that the one who built the ship knew exactly the power of the drive, they knew exactly the name of the kat: Deucalion. who else can know that name except its pilot? (Consider Martians don't know anything about this ship) I can pretty much confirm that Orlene survived that bombardment now. :D Woahaaa, If we connect all dots from Saazbaum and Orlene's relationship, Tanegashima, A hidden battle ship & kataphrakt, an Aldnoah drive that no one knows how to active it and its funtion yet as we've seen human pretty knew well about it. There would be impossible for Dr.Troyad to discovers everything himself, he must getting a help from a real martian to develop the true power of Aldnoah. I wonder how the writer will pull everything up. |
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Seiryuu2 said: Woahaaa, If we connect all dots from Saazbaum and Orlene's relationship, Tanegashima, A hidden battle ship & kataphrakt, an Aldnoah drive that no one knows how to active it and its funtion yet as we've seen human pretty knew well about it. There would be impossible for Dr.Troyad to discovers everything himself, he must getting a help from a real martian to develop the true power of Aldnoah. I wonder how the writer will pull everything up. My friend, even if Dr. Troyard or any genius can build the ship himself, he cannot know THE NAME of the kat. Orlene must survive at all cost. :D |
chickenonthepan said: Seiryuu2 said: Woahaaa, If we connect all dots from Saazbaum and Orlene's relationship, Tanegashima, A hidden battle ship & kataphrakt, an Aldnoah drive that no one knows how to active it and its funtion yet as we've seen human pretty knew well about it. There would be impossible for Dr.Troyad to discovers everything himself, he must getting a help from a real martian to develop the true power of Aldnoah. I wonder how the writer will pull everything up. My friend, even if Dr. Troyard or any genius can build the ship himself, he cannot know THE NAME of the kat. Orlene must survive at all cost. :D Indeed, 100 points to gryffindor All we need to do is just waiting how every strings will be played. |
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| Overall, it was a pretty good episode. I just have one minor complaint, but this really needs to be pointed out. Why can these shows never get CPR right? Defibrillating asystole? Really? If he really learned how to do CPR in school, then he needs to take a refresher course ASAP. (FYI: Defibrillation should only be used in cardiac arrest due to shockable rhythms such as Ventricular Tachycardia and Ventricular Fibrillation. It is useless if there is no discernable cardiac rhythm at all, such as in this case). |
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lagpipi said: This is bullshit, revived by CPR? seriously? Mortality and morbidity after strangulation is extremely high, especially after prolonged period of hypoxia!! She was pulseless for crying out loud!! Study done in 2011 showed that of the 19 found pulseless after strangulation or hanging injury, even after CPR only 1 survived with significant brain injury and died within 2 years, while 2 survived in persistent vegetative state, the rest all died. This is so bullshit! And if the Inaho really knows how to do CPR, you are suppose to change after 2 minutes of compression and get another person to do the artificial ventilation. AND seriously, they had a defibrillator but no masks and pumps for air delivery? Ah, so frustrating. I thought this was going to be a good show, but if they end going to try to resuscitate someone like this in a realistic way, they should have done more research! People don't just survive strangulation and get up and walk away. I hope the plot is going to reveal that the princess is biologically far from being a human or something, because that will be the only way she will be able to survive this (which I guess is in itself true as she got ability to generate Aldnoah power)... But then why is the doctor on board not mentioned anything except 'oh she is all fine and her brain is normal'... because clearly it's not! It's called Plot Protection. It's never logical, almost never makes sense, but when you're the only one who can power the ship. You definitely have it! |
lagpipi said: This is bullshit, revived by CPR? seriously? Mortality and morbidity after strangulation is extremely high, especially after prolonged period of hypoxia!! She was pulseless for crying out loud!! Study done in 2011 showed that of the 19 found pulseless after strangulation or hanging injury, even after CPR only 1 survived with significant brain injury and died within 2 years, while 2 survived in persistent vegetative state, the rest all died. This is so bullshit! And if the Inaho really knows how to do CPR, you are suppose to change after 2 minutes of compression and get another person to do the artificial ventilation. AND seriously, they had a defibrillator but no masks and pumps for air delivery? Ah, so frustrating. I thought this was going to be a good show, but if they end going to try to resuscitate someone like this in a realistic way, they should have done more research! People don't just survive strangulation and get up and walk away. I hope the plot is going to reveal that the princess is biologically far from being a human or something, because that will be the only way she will be able to survive this (which I guess is in itself true as she got ability to generate Aldnoah power)... But then why is the doctor on board not mentioned anything except 'oh she is all fine and her brain is normal'... because clearly it's not! If a person is a healthy human I don't see any reason why she will not survive; a lot of cases in the emergency room which a patient is found unconscious, asystole/flat line can be successfully resuscitated if identifiable causes can be reverse, hypoxia is a reversible cause. |
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Stark700 said: Yup, saved.  A mouth to mouth, Why o why? :"0 |
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skudoops said: Aside from that and my other question (how did marito and the mech survive?) it seems Saazbum is just another version of Rayet. Kinda weird that they gave two characters such similar motivations for going against Vers. Probably foreshadowing for Rayet to complete her heel turn and to go with him at the end of the season. All he would have to say is that it was Trillram working on his own to kill her father. |
Chiyo361 said: Stark700 said: Yup, saved. A mouth to mouth, Why o why? :"0 How else can you do it? Of course it has to be mouth to mouth |
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| Not surprised to see the princess still alive and now it looks like we're heading into the final battle. Pretty hyped to see what is going to happen in this fight. |
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| Guessing the Butcher is back either writing the scripts or having a hand in them again because that gun lesson was all Urobuchi. |
| So, Saazbaum's fiance takes a giant moon-rock to the face, and he has strategically placed cameras to record the event. I suppose they were making a propaganda video to send back home and let everyone know how awesome the Vers forces are. Also, I'm shipping Slaine x Tharsis. |
| And another great episode! |
| Predictable. Blergh. Welp. Time for Slaine to anal Inaho and stake his claim on Blondie! Gah who am I kiddin- Inaho doesn't need mech armour when he's got plot armour -.- |
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| I'm confused. So Saaz is doing this for vengeance right? Orlane died during Heaven's Fall and the only reason why they got caught up in that is because the war was started under false pretenses by the Vers empire. So now he formulated the assassination of the princess so he can wage war against Earth. All this for his revenge. It doesn't make sense :/ What did Earth ever do to him? Couldn't he just assassinate the emperor or something? So how will Slaine make his mech work without Aldnoah? If the Martians can transfer their power to anyone then that's just stupid. Ooh but wasn't it stated in a previous episode that the emperor gave the power to the counts in exchange for their loyalty...or did I misunderstood it? Still, if anyone with Aldnoah can power any mech then that's just really..*smh* don't they know anything about security? Oh and Orlane's kat and the flying ship share the same name. Coincidence? :o |
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xchee said: Oh and Orlane's kat and the flying ship share the same name. Coincidence? :o No. It is the most concrete evidence that Orlene survived the bombardment. She worked with whoever to build that battle ship. Oh lovely Orlene. :x |
chickenonthepan said: xchee said: Oh and Orlane's kat and the flying ship share the same name. Coincidence? :o No. It is the most concrete evidence that Orlene survived the bombardment. She worked with whoever to build that battle ship. Oh lovely Orlene. :x We have seen only some glimpse of her but i've already fall in love with her xD I can't wait the flashback story of Orlene :x |
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| The princess heart rhythm was on flat line yet the MC shocked her. Wow Bad |
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chickenonthepan said: xchee said: Oh and Orlane's kat and the flying ship share the same name. Coincidence? :o No. It is the most concrete evidence that Orlene survived the bombardment. She worked with whoever to build that battle ship. Oh lovely Orlene. :x Or the name of the Kat was stamped on some part of the non-destroyed section. This, of course, not implying that Orlene couldn't have survived anyway. Acropyre said: The princess heart rhythm was on flat line yet the MC shocked her. Wow Bad Isn't that always done in movies and stuff? |
| i don't like how people are hating on Slaine, he deserves 100% more screentime and character development |
TheUnbiasedOne91 said: Exactly what im tryin to explain to these inaho fanboys/girlsAlso.... I shot you down Slaine because you could be a danger for the princess Nah, you are cool Rayet despite what you just did Either the writing in this show is awful or Inaho is thinking with his dick. |
| I doubt this will be split cour. I bet inaho and suzaku team up to kill count vader and it all works out at 12. |
This episode was decent, I can kind of empathize with Rayet based on what they went through and the more I think about it, the more I feel that Inaho's decisions make sense despite them sounding absurd on the surface level. Glad they are fleshing out everyone's character a little more rather than the whole boss of the day formula.  I will also leave you with this as a joke :D |
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| fleshing out everyone except the main character, whom is still a kat pilot with no personality or facial expressions. |
zerriet said: This episode was decent, I can kind of empathize with Rayet based on what they went through and the more I think about it, the more I feel that Inaho's decisions make sense despite them sounding absurd on the surface level. Glad they are fleshing out everyone's character a little more rather than the whole boss of the day formula. I will also leave you with this as a joke :D i could actually kill you for this ^^^^^^ that is the ultimate troll |
SolviteSekai said: fleshing out everyone except the main character, whom is still a kat pilot with no personality or facial expressions. I cannot disagree with you there, however i do hope they flesh out his character more in the second cour. |
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zerriet said: SolviteSekai said: fleshing out everyone except the main character, whom is still a kat pilot with no personality or facial expressions. I cannot disagree with you there, however i do hope they flesh out his character more in the second cour. Where has a second cour been announced? If your character is a complete nobody until 13 episodes in, your show is poorly written. The people defending inaho probably just self insert their bland personality onto his. |
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