Aldnoah.Zero Season One
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pakoko said: I'm pretty sure that every single last Terran (The King included) sees him as an enemy and would probably kill him on site. So I don't see that happening at allTokoya said: Doubt it....The Princess is on Humanity's side and I don't see Slaine abandoning/going against her at all He won't abandon her. He'll join Saazbaum's crew not to join the Martian side, but in order to save the princess from the Terrans, even if it means using force. He's on the princess's side, and he couldn't care less of either sides. Saazbaum knows this, and he'll most likely manipulate Slaine so that Slaine will achieve both Saazbaum's goal of defeating Terrans and his own goal of retrieving the princess. Although the princess then will probably turn her back to Slaine if Slaine were to hurt any Terrans. For now, though, he'll need to join Saazbaum because he literally has nowhere to go and nothing to fight with in Tanegashima. Sure, he might change sides if the princess talks to him directly, but as of now Asseylum doesn't even know Slaine is looking for her. |
| Now Inaho gets to drive the Red K this war is over. I want somebody to chop his arm off. Inaho is killing all the suspense , consequently ruining everything. |
skudoops said: Darklight0303 said: Read the post above yours Ah I see, but how did inaho get away then? It was point blank and he didn't move, so I'm assuming slaine fired warning shots? Not point blanks since the turrets were on the wing. From that kind of awkward angle it'd be hard to land a shot. On the other hand Inaho had a straight shot at the engine and then he used the anchor from his arm to hook the plane and drag it down into the ocean while slowing his fall enough to land safely. y123y said: I dont blame Slaine for being obsessed with the princess. I mean, did you see that mouth to mouth at the beginning of episode 5 when they just met? I dont blame him at all. THat doesn't make it any less his fault for making demands instead of answering questions. |
| Wow, the martians sure like to shout constantly "onore". They are giving Gilgamesh from Fate stay night a run for his money. Anyway this is episode the episode that had the best action. Im really liking this series. |
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skudoops said: Darklight0303 said: Read the post above yours Ah I see, but how did inaho get away then? It was point blank and he didn't move, so I'm assuming slaine fired warning shots? Probably. Our husbando, Slaine can do no wrong. |
pakoko said: Yeah, no he's definitely not staying in Saazbaum's crew for long. I'm just saying that because Saazbaum's the only one who's been tracking him down (he tells Cruhteo to leave Slaine to him) and most likely will be the only one who will find him in Tanegashima. Unless Slaine magically sneaked into the battleship hahaha. I actually thought the implication was that Dr. Troyard was dead, but maybe I'm wrong. I thought Slaine would have some knowledge of his father's research and hence the reason why he's left alive in the Vers kingdom. Unfortunately, so far the authors haven't shown any inclination towards using political intrigue in the plot. I see Inaho's friends fishing out Slaine as a more likely development at the moment. With how things are done in martian castles, Slaine won't be offered to join anything by Sazbaum - he will be caught, interrogated for info and killed. Unless there's something that we don't know about Saazbaum and conspiracy. I had the impression thet he was left alive mostly because of princess' protection and Cruhteo's pride. And they let him out of the castle to track him down. But we don't know anything about his father yet. |
| Aww, so they did pull the "discover similar technology to use against the enemy" card. Which is ok I guess since Gurren Lagann did the same thing. I was really digging the sticks and stones warfare though. Once Inaho inevitably gets control of the Red Kataphract it's pretty much GG for the martians as he facerolls everything. Also Lt. Marito is still one of the most useless characters I've ever seen. WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU |
Strawhat_PirateAug 16, 2014 11:54 AM
| Gotta love Inaho's genre savvyness, perceptive as always. And haters gonna hate of course. Though this episode did destroy much of "the bad things about the show": Inaho is not infallible and he shows emotions, as well as the others becoming more reliable. And YES! Somebody who doesn't go "We fought together! Friends forever!". |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
deadoptimist said: pakoko said: Yeah, no he's definitely not staying in Saazbaum's crew for long. I'm just saying that because Saazbaum's the only one who's been tracking him down (he tells Cruhteo to leave Slaine to him) and most likely will be the only one who will find him in Tanegashima. Unless Slaine magically sneaked into the battleship hahaha. I actually thought the implication was that Dr. Troyard was dead, but maybe I'm wrong. I thought Slaine would have some knowledge of his father's research and hence the reason why he's left alive in the Vers kingdom. Unfortunately, so far the authors haven't shown any inclination towards using political intrigue in the plot. I see Inaho's friends fishing out Slaine as a more likely development at the moment. With how things are done in martian castles, Slaine won't be offered to join anything by Sazbaum - he will be caught, interrogated for info and killed. Unless there's something that we don't know about Saazbaum and conspiracy. I had the impression thet he was left alive mostly because of princess' protection and Cruhteo's pride. And they let him out of the castle to track him down. But we don't know anything about his father yet. well for one slaines father long dead and is prob a colleague of the king (when on earth?) |
| Slaine!!!!!!! Why did you shoot first you idiot, he was my favorite in the beginning, but he is stupid ain't he? Oh well, OK episode overall, design of the mechs is a huge let down though, it's making the fights too easy. |
chickenonthepan said: TheUnbiasedOne91 said: whats your problem?Because not everybody likes the main protagonist?Get over it. But you are "The Unbiased One". You should see things more objective. Why fight, we can like both character. By the way good Ost, I really like it. |
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letswrok said: well for one slaines father long dead and is prob a colleague of the king (when on earth?) Really? I remember Slaine saying that princess has saved him and his father at the beginning of the first episode. Hmm. Maybe I'm mistaken. |
skudoops said: Darklight0303 said: Not point blanks since the turrets were on the wing. From that kind of awkward angle it'd be hard to land a shot. On the other hand Inaho had a straight shot at the engine and then he used the anchor from his arm to hook the plane and drag it down into the ocean while slowing his fall enough to land safely. Well the turrets are the little red things.. the ones on the inner side of the wings can point directly at him. BenMS said: Even the Aldnoah-driven minigun-shots can't kill an Terran Kataphrakt in one shot - and it were just a few shots, so it were 'warning shots' of some sort I guess. Actually it's not an aldnoah weapon, they use regular howitzer shells (Slaine said so earlier). So far the one aldnoah based weapon we've seen has been able to one hit terran mechs (in the second* episode). Pretty sure the howitzer is on the front. Those were just self defense minigun turrents. |
jzmagic said: Best anime of the season, epic episode. Did not expect that twist at the end but it made perfect sense. Estoy de acuerdo contigo amigo :D |
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y123y said: Do you like the princess more as a blonde or as a brunette? Brunette. She looks too flashy as a blonde. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
y123y said: Do you like the princess more as a blonde or as a brunette? Blonde. Long hair > short. |
| You know this show does a really good job of making Inaho look like a borderline villain at times or at least like it doesn't want anyone else to dare encroach on his spotlight. I think they're trying to go with the whole Gen Urobuchi amoral hero that gets results thing, but what is he even talking about needing to exploit Asselyeum when she seems to be helping them of her own good will? Like I could understand Rayet reacting that way if it were her in that situation, but Mr. Logic? It seems like he's basically just sacrificing a potential key ally for unconfirmed suspicions which kind of goes against everything he's been about up to this point. I guess it adds....something to his character since it's a key error (though I get this strange feeling it'll find someway to try to portray it being not as such down the line) in judgement from him for the first time in the show really, but I'm not really sure of the reasoning behind why he did what he did so suddenly. I guess they really do just want this to be a one man show. Or maybe it's just more of this shows need to make sure that Slaine never makes any sort of significant long term impact. It's like the shows basically going, "Fine you wanted it, here's your tag team match up where Slaine helps out but now we're going to pull the rug out and that's all you get for now". Other than that kind of predictable, the Knight dies in her second episode as another one off antagonist with no real character, we get a little bit more VERY BRIEF scheming from Saazbaum, the crew discovering the key to a significant tech upgrade and then the rest of the episode like many of them is spent on this drawn out fight. I don't know why this show thinks it needs to spend like 75% of it's run on these Inaho Vs. set pieces, but it is what it is I guess. It really doesn't leave it much in the way of time to get invested in these characters though in these 2nd part episodes so again like with pretty much every other arc to date I found the first part that focused on moving the plot along and the skirmish more interesting than the rather predictable part where they actually take the knight down. Also just what is up with all the singing during the fights. It clashes so badly with the action and doesn't really feel like the kind of music that should be playing at all. Aside from reasons of hype and popularity I really think they made a bad call going with Sawano for this show. Next week I guess it's on to either the beefy knight dude with the tentacle mech or the one with the funky pompadour and fish-like mech. I still think they'll save level an entire city block in one blast glasses Knight dude for the finale in any case. |
y123y said: If im Slaine, I would be ticked off at Inaho. IT IS ON INAHO!!!!!!!! He should have answered Inaho's question. Not make demands and point the turrets at him like a moron. Open your bloody eyes. Plus in a one on one fight Slaine doesn't stand a chance against Inaho's tactics. |
Hantsuki03 said: inaho still boring character/personality He needs to smile man, he's too depressing. It's ruining the series for me. |
y123y said: Darklight0303 said: He should have answered Inaho's question. Not make demands and point the turrets at him like a moron. Open your bloody eyes. Yea, youre right. He should have said "I just wanted another mouth to mouth" :P That probably wouldn't have got him shot honestly. Since all of hte martians so far were arrogant assholes who made demands. |
| I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! |
falsaai said: I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! 8.01 seems like a pretty damn high rating too me. What more do you want to give you peace of mind at the end of the day? |
falsaai said: I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! The only thing that stands out is the OST. Everything we've seen so far has been done, multiple times in the mecha genre. |
| This episode went full mecha. |
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| nice ep..there were some good teamwork there... which is unusual for most newer mecha series which only rely on 1 op MC without asistance of other unit |
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skudoops said: I also wonder why inaho didn't trust slaine at least to the point where they met face to face. The questions he asked he, it sounded as though he assumed he was an assassin, but if that were the case he'd have just helped E honda destroy the ship. It could be a ruse after they saw how their last two mechs got taken out. Taking a long way around to achieve the same goal. Honestly Inaho didn't fully trust Slaine from the start. Look at his wording at the start of the episode. The fact that Slaine made demands instead of at least giving some kind of answer only sealed the deal. |
| I have question, the script of this episode was written by a different guy, correct? And I also wanted to say that Slaine actually shot before Inaho did, so in a sense he was just defending himself from Slaine. |
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Darklight0303 said: He should have answered Inaho's question. Not make demands and point the turrets at him like a moron. Open your bloody eyes. Plus in a one on one fight Slaine doesn't stand a chance against Inaho's tactics. The thing is Inaho is supposed to make decisions without being affected by emotions, but here he suddenly got emotional in the least appropriate moment. Instead of asking for the second time the obviously very nervous person, he provoked him. He could've got more info from Slaine at least. Even the two most obvious questions "who are you?" and "why are you helping us?" were not asked - Inaho went passive-aggressive from the start. |
y123y said: falsaai said: I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! I think this show has gotten good ratings. But it does have its flaws. I think everytime you have an OP main character, thats when critics speaks the loudest. Sometimes its fair, sometimes its not. antonn said: falsaai said: I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! The only thing that stands out is the OST. Everything we've seen so far has been done, multiple times in the mecha genre. I kind of understand now. I'm not a fan of the mecha genre so I haven't watched similar shows before, maybe that's why I'm obsessed with it more than you guys. Thanks for explaining. |
| That was a good episode, although the last part made me feel uneasy and pretty much I don't really like the most. Even though I was surprised about that, I just hope they clear up these events that happen and Inaho and Slaine will work together. Still as always Sawano's music is craving inside of my ear, September is too far away. Also the teamwork between Inaho and Slaine was played out well. I had this WTF moment that the battleship came out of nowhere and start crashing into that Martains Mecha XD. |
deadoptimist said: Unfortunately, so far the authors haven't shown any inclination towards using political intrigue in the plot. I see Inaho's friends fishing out Slaine as a more likely development at the moment. With how things are done in martian castles, Slaine won't be offered to join anything by Sazbaum - he will be caught, interrogated for info and killed. Unless there's something that we don't know about Saazbaum and conspiracy. I had the impression thet he was left alive mostly because of princess' protection and Cruhteo's pride. And they let him out of the castle to track him down. But we don't know anything about his father yet. The last scene in this episode shows Inaho and the crew all flying away from Tanegashima on the battleship so I find it hard to imagine Inaho's friends fishing Slaine out. You're right, Slaine's offense is punishable by death. However, I believe last episode towards the beginning, Saazbaum referred to Dr. Troyard being an important researcher for Vers Technology. We don't exactly know yet, but if Slaine is important to Saazbaum in some way because of Slaine's connection to his father's research on Vers technology, then he can very well be left alive under Saazbaum's protection. By the way, this whole war started because of Saazbaum's conspiracy (maybe you missed it somehow). He ordered his men, who ordered Terrans, to assassinate the princess, so that the Vers would have an initiative to invade Earth. Slaine realized that something was fishy when Trillram wanted to kill the princess, so he started investigating on his own. Saazbaum realizes that Slaine knows of the conspiracy, so he takes preemptive measures and lies to the emperor saying that Slaine is a spy. This way, 1) the emperor will officially declare war after confirming Slaine as a spy that killed the princess and 2) Slaine won't be able to reveal Saazbaum's treacherous plan. Like I said, though, Saazbaum wants something of Slaine so he's not going to kill him off that easily, even if he's in the Vers kingdom. That I know 100%. We don't know anything about his father except that his research is really influential to the technology Vers has right now. Anyways, we'll get a confirmation sooner or later, but the implication is that he is indeed dead. |
skudoops said: Darklight0303 said: It could be a ruse after they saw how their last two mechs got taken out. Taking a long way around to achieve the same goal. Honestly Inaho didn't fully trust Slaine from the start. Look at his wording at the start of the episode. The fact that Slaine made demands instead of at least giving some kind of answer only sealed the deal. Well yeah I understand there will always be some level of distrust there, but I found it strange they didn't decide to meet first. Infact inaho seemed more provocative than anything else as though he was trying to bait this dude into doing some dumb. WHich may very well have been the case. Thing is his provocation was more or less along the lines of. "So you guys can use her to start a war, but we can't use her to stop it cause it's a problem for you?" pakoko said: deadoptimist said: Unfortunately, so far the authors haven't shown any inclination towards using political intrigue in the plot. I see Inaho's friends fishing out Slaine as a more likely development at the moment. With how things are done in martian castles, Slaine won't be offered to join anything by Sazbaum - he will be caught, interrogated for info and killed. Unless there's something that we don't know about Saazbaum and conspiracy. I had the impression thet he was left alive mostly because of princess' protection and Cruhteo's pride. And they let him out of the castle to track him down. But we don't know anything about his father yet. The last scene in this episode shows Inaho and the crew all flying away from Tanegashima on the battleship so I find it hard to imagine Inaho's friends fishing Slaine out. You're right, Slaine's offense is punishable by death. However, I believe last episode towards the beginning, Saazbaum referred to Dr. Troyard being an important researcher for Vers Technology. We don't exactly know yet, but if Slaine is important to Saazbaum in some way because of Slaine's connection to his father's research on Vers technology, then he can very well be left alive under Saazbaum's protection. By the way, this whole war started because of Saazbaum's conspiracy (maybe you missed it somehow). He ordered his men, who ordered Terrans, to assassinate the princess, so that the Vers would have an initiative to invade Earth. Slaine realized that something was fishy when Trillram wanted to kill the princess, so he started investigating on his own. Saazbaum realizes that Slaine knows of the conspiracy, so he takes preemptive measures and lies to the emperor saying that Slaine is a spy. This way, 1) the emperor will officially declare war after confirming Slaine as a spy that killed the princess and 2) Slaine won't be able to reveal Saazbaum's treacherous plan. Like I said, though, Saazbaum wants something of Slaine so he's not going to kill him off that easily, even if he's in the Vers kingdom. That I know 100%. We don't know anything about his father except that his research is really influential to the technology Vers has right now. Anyways, we'll get a confirmation sooner or later, but the implication is that he is indeed dead. They aren't flying away. THey are stationary above the island... |
antonn said: falsaai said: I honestly don't understand why this show isn't getting a good rating. I literally love everything about it and it's the only show I wait on fire every week to watch it.. Well.. I mean this season! The only thing that stands out is the OST. Everything we've seen so far has been done, multiple times in the mecha genre. It's been extremely obvious that for a lot of people the soundtrack is carrying the show for them judging by what gets discussed the most. So far this show is like 80% action and pseudo-science sounding dialogue and like 20% actual character development, intrigue and plot/conflict progression. It's good at keeping people hyped up but man is it kind of an empty popcorn entertainment experience at the end of the day with increasingly glaring examples of fridge logic for how deathly serious it takes itself at times. |
| holy shit inaho is ice cold. fantastic episode, but how the hell did inaho know there was a hidden dock in the mountain... |
| DAT TWEEST AT THE END. Holy shit, I love this show so much. |
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| the last scene was... EPIC! How Bat-kun no trust to Orange-kun when was being questioned, Orange-kun had no option that consider him enemy (since theorically all martians thinks that the princess is dead, so he was making sure that is not an assasin, but well misunderstandings are blessing here lol). Now wanna know what is gonna happen next since the princess revealed her identity to the group (I though that she gonna be hidden for a long time). |
| so seriously did they change writers or something? how did we go from the neat first robot with barrier thing to "my dick is one molecule!" ? |
Kaioshin_Sama said: It's been extremely obvious that for a lot of people the soundtrack is carrying the show for them judging by what gets discussed the most. So far this show is like 80% action and pseudo-science sounding dialogue and like 20% actual character development, intrigue and plot/conflict progression. It's good at keeping people hyped up but man is it kind of an empty popcorn entertainment experience at the end of the day with increasingly glaring examples of fridge logic for how deathly serious it takes itself at times. There hasn't been any character development thus far. Otherwise yes, that is basically what the show is so far. Except I think the action is boring for the most part and I have no intrigue in it at all because it's starting to get very predictable... When it isn't just pulling things out of it's ass. |
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