The Irregular at Magic High School (light novel)
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| Mr. perfect strikes again. I wonder how long it's going to take until the guy has to compete himself. Expecting epic things from him in such a situation ;) |
| For those who seek perfection, there can be no rest on this side of the grave. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. |
| Decent episode. The test of the new CAD at the beginning had me thinking as well. What would happen if someone put themselves in between the blade hilt and the floating blade? Would that disrupt the flow of the activation sequence and cause the blade to break apart? First time we've actually seen someone other than Miyuki actually appreciate Tatsuya's engineering skills. Shizuku went as far as to ask him to go work for her family even before he got that engineering license or whatever. I think it's a shame that we never got to see the rest of "Team Tatsuya" winning their events though, because that would have made the competition less bland, instead of just talking about the results in the strategy room (like a victorious image of the candidates winning their respective events during their speech would have been more visually appealing, but alas they didn't bother with that either). That said, the info dump for the Speed Shooting was done quite well, but I would have loved to see them animate the difference between Shizuku and Mayumi's magic when participating in that event. The middle of this episode after Mari got injured was a bit... First off, why was Mari blushing during her conversation with Mayumi? I thought she already had a boyfriend or whatever (didn't someone mention it in the student council room before?). Is she pining for Tatsuya now as well? Second, the analysis of the video footage could have been done better. All I saw was Tatsuya at the screen explaining practically everything, with little or no input from the rest of the investigation team. A little interaction between the characters really wouldn't hurt anyone you know.... an intelligent observation from Mikihiko or a comment in from Kei about the video would have gone a long way to showing that the rest of the students aren't just background placeholders. What I want to know is this, if Miyuki has to participate in the place of Mari in the official Mirage Bat match, then who will take Miyuki's place in the amateur match? |
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| Shizuku is pretty far my favorite for now. Shes not trying too hard for affection, shes cool and she kick ass. In the previous episode, it feel a bit too rush, i think this episode make up to that previous one. Its pretty tough to explain and wrapped all the information becos it might get boring with all those many explanation and less action. But it was great if they would involve other charaters besides Tats and Miyuki. so far this one episode is probably the best one so far for me. If only and i hope they will keep it like this. |
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neonBdragon said: I don't think so, as there would be no occasion to drool over Tatsuya's CAD calibrating skills. Plus guys doing that and blushing at Tatsu's expertise would be weird, wouldn't it?I wonder if we will be able to see any male competing events. Great episode!!! Tbh, the whole speedshooting explanation sounded like an unnecessarily long-ass and twisted way of saying Tatsu basically made a program that allows you to win just by spamming the trigger. It's way less about Shizuku being an excellent shooter than it is about Tatsuya being a CAD calibrating god, as it's the CAD that does most of the job, not the shooter. She said it herself, she "just has to win." When you think about that it's crazy unfair for all the other competitors who don't necessarily have a Tatsuya in their technical team that can calibrate their CAD half as well as he does, cause at this point their rate of success does not even depend their shooting skills anymore. Even behind the scenes he manages to get all the attention for himself. |
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MrJupatho said: there is not excitement in this episdoe again, Shooting game, Accident, New girl getting blush to main.. He 's like a side character to story that has intellectual mind and Secret background but didn't mean anything... i'm expecting some one will go sabotage the competition and so on and so on .. or like he will be a replacement and accidentally show his real power so on and so on.. or something like that will make me excite .. if this is like best anime liek they said like , SAO or SnK SAO = 8.9 points Snk = 10 points Mahouka = 7.5 points Well, get excited when the time comes lol. L-Ryoshi said: What I want to know is this, if Miyuki has to participate in the place of Mari in the official Mirage Bat match, then who will take Miyuki's place in the amateur match? It was mentioned in the last episode that Honoka is also participating in newcomer's Mirage Bat. |
| So Tatsuya is now capable of deducing and telling doctors what is wrong at a glance. Rant So, as of this episode he invented magic-cancellation spell, made flying prototype and is better at diagnosing patients than actual doctors. Oh, he also shot nuclear bomb with magic in episode 1. You know, I was joking when I said that by the rate this is going he's going to invent time-machine. Now I am wondering if he's actually going to do that. /rant Other than that, mostly a setup episode, few explanations about spells and theories about what happened at tournament. Another question for LN readers. Why do children from great magic families have same qualities as their parents, that is, they are awesome compared to others? Is magic ability based on genes? |
nina4life said: Another question for LN readers. Why do children from great magic families have same qualities as their parents, that is, they are awesome compared to others? Is magic ability based on genes? Yes it is. And those genes get stronger in subsequent generations so it's the duty of every magician to procreate. The only people exempt are those who physically can't. Magical breeding is a huge thing in current magic society. |
| Shizuku's spell reminds me of OP cash weapons in games. Thought speed shooting is more of a skill based competition, but aoe spam for the win. It's like having a grenade launcher in Archery. Might as well set the magic to be a 20m diameter detonation sphere auto activating every half second. /end rant Overall a relatively uninteresting episode, explanations and commentary are OK and necessary, but too much is too much.. The action does pick up near the end of the arc, so I hope Mahouka redeems itself soon. |
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| After watching the episode for a second time I finally understood what was going on. Even though we have the Tatsuya is a genius because he is, I'm with those who somewhat do enjoy the explanations and etc. Still, I wonder if there are any rules to those competitions. It seemed to be cheating to me the technique used on the "Speed Shooting". Looking forward to which complex process will be used next. Magic FTW. After all these episodes I guess this is the appeal of the series. There's this guy who can do anything because he is awesome, and even more cool is how they take their time to explain how he does it. Ah there's also these peasants asking him for help and some others who can't wait to be bfto by him. There's no need for losing first, training and power ups, he just does it. Science bitch. I guess anyone who is finding it boring and painful should stop watching by now. I mean, I genuinely wanted that they spent more time discerning the processes. |
JoksPacifistJun 22, 2014 8:22 AM
nina4life said: So Tatsuya is now capable of deducing and telling doctors what is wrong at a glance. Not only. He could also completely heal her in the blink of an eye (with magic similar to time machine :P ). But he is a douchebag and he didn't. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
| well this episode was abit shitty nothing important happened and there weren't any funny moments so... yeah i guess this was a bit lame |
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| Does Tatsuya always need to shit down on the throats of everyone else? Is Mahouka "no matter how much effort you give, there's always someone better than you", the anime series? |
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JoksPacifist said: Even though we have the Tatsuya is a genius because he is, I'm with those who somewhat do enjoy the explanations and etc. Still, I wonder if there are any rules to those competitions. It seemed to be cheating to me the technique used on the "Speed Shooting". The rules (as far as I remember) are: You're not allowed to use your own CAD in the competition You're not allowed to use a powerful destructive spell You're not allowed to use spell to hinder the movement of your opponent (but I don't think this one rule applies for Monolith Code) Monolith Code also has one special rule, but I cannot remember what it is. So in short, they (Shizuku and Tatsuya) are not cheating or breaking any rules. In fact, new techniques are always welcomed in 9SC. |
wrenchbread said: I don't get how authorities would give away surveillance footage so easily to another student. Shouldn't the adults be taking care of this stuff? True, but this is no ordinary student haha |
Kitoge said: wrenchbread said: I don't get how authorities would give away surveillance footage so easily to another student. Shouldn't the adults be taking care of this stuff? True, but this is no ordinary student haha Well, we know he's working with military, I doubt getting surveillance tapes would be an issue. |
nina4life said: Kitoge said: True, but this is no ordinary student haha Well, we know he's working with military, I doubt getting surveillance tapes would be an issue. Plus, there's also the tenth powerful clans thing. For people who fought terrorists, getting this tape should be no problem. |
CNagy said: There sure is a lot of complaining about this anime. It must straddle a very careful line of annoying people but not quite enough to get them to just drop it. Tatsuya is a NG+ character in a NG world. Sometimes, that's how stories are. Not all stories are about a MC who develops from naive to experienced; sometimes the MC is like a force of nature. Not every story is the hero's journey. Sometimes it is about how the world reacts to the MC, or how events are altered by their presence. Hagure Yuusha no Estetica had a similarly overpowered MC. Kaze no Stigma. Legend of Legendary Heroes. Rurouni Kenshin. Trigun. Heck, kick it old school with Fist of the North Star. It's okay to not like this type of story, but it is still a valid method of storytelling. I haven't read the LNs. I also haven't had to; so far the story is self-contained. It has all made sense--note: not making sense is when something contradicts itself, not when it contradicts how you assume the world is supposed to be. There is always a wider world of information outside of the main narrative. An entire universe of it, in fact. Knowing aspects of the extended universe can affect your enjoyment of the story, but it isn't necessary. The difference between things that need explaining and things you want explained are that the former are necessary to maintain the story's internal logic (why is Tatsuya so powerful yet initially regarded so poorly? Oh, because his strengths don't lie in the measured criteria/are military secrets) while the latter are just things that would affect your enjoyment of the story, some of which may just not be explained yet (if the details go on take central importance in the story). This is all long-winded and probably sounds a bit pretentious, but it's a reaction that's been building in me, thread after thread of people complaining. Yeah, it's not perfect. Most of what I wish was better would require a longer run-time, though, so as far as complaints go, "I want more" is hardly damning. Yeah I've sort of gathered that that's what this show is about too. Even still there's no denying that the show has some problems adapting it's source (it's pretty obvious there's lots being cut out every episode), but I still really don't see it as a bad show. I think it could be a lot more interesting sometimes and tends to have too much of the overly complex explanations of Tatsuya describing how magic systems work right in the middle of other characters scenes which probably feeds the impression even more that it's all about him. I just think the show doesn't contain enough things that your average poster on this site likes to latch onto though and doesn't do enough to capture that "epic" feel that people were probably expecting. I have mixed feelings about it myself, but no particular desire to harshly criticize it at the same time because watching it doesn't annoy me nor even bother me. I guess I'm in that category that wonders if they like the show or not but am still watching because it hasn't given me a reason why I shouldn't continue and has a way of keeping me just interested enough to keep following. It's the kind of show I normally enjoy after all, just needs more energy and intrigue or something and in that regard this episode was much better than last. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: CNagy said: There sure is a lot of complaining about this anime. It must straddle a very careful line of annoying people but not quite enough to get them to just drop it. Tatsuya is a NG+ character in a NG world. Sometimes, that's how stories are. Not all stories are about a MC who develops from naive to experienced; sometimes the MC is like a force of nature. Not every story is the hero's journey. Sometimes it is about how the world reacts to the MC, or how events are altered by their presence. Hagure Yuusha no Estetica had a similarly overpowered MC. Kaze no Stigma. Legend of Legendary Heroes. Rurouni Kenshin. Trigun. Heck, kick it old school with Fist of the North Star. It's okay to not like this type of story, but it is still a valid method of storytelling. I haven't read the LNs. I also haven't had to; so far the story is self-contained. It has all made sense--note: not making sense is when something contradicts itself, not when it contradicts how you assume the world is supposed to be. There is always a wider world of information outside of the main narrative. An entire universe of it, in fact. Knowing aspects of the extended universe can affect your enjoyment of the story, but it isn't necessary. The difference between things that need explaining and things you want explained are that the former are necessary to maintain the story's internal logic (why is Tatsuya so powerful yet initially regarded so poorly? Oh, because his strengths don't lie in the measured criteria/are military secrets) while the latter are just things that would affect your enjoyment of the story, some of which may just not be explained yet (if the details go on take central importance in the story). This is all long-winded and probably sounds a bit pretentious, but it's a reaction that's been building in me, thread after thread of people complaining. Yeah, it's not perfect. Most of what I wish was better would require a longer run-time, though, so as far as complaints go, "I want more" is hardly damning. Yeah I've sort of gathered that that's what this show is about too. Even still there's no denying that the show has some problems adapting it's source (it's pretty obvious there's lots being cut out every episode), but I still really don't see it as a bad show. I think it could be a lot more interesting sometimes and tends to have too much of the overly complex explanations of Tatsuya describing how magic systems work right in the middle of other characters scenes which probably feeds the impression even more that it's all about him. I just think the show doesn't contain enough things that your average poster on this site likes to latch onto though and doesn't do enough to capture that "epic" feel that people were probably expecting. I have mixed feelings about it myself, but no particular desire to harshly criticize it at the same time because watching it doesn't annoy me nor even bother me. I guess I'm in that category that wonders if they like the show or not but am still watching because it hasn't given me a reason why I shouldn't continue and has a way of keeping me just interested enough to keep following. It's the kind of show I normally enjoy after all, just needs more energy and intrigue or something and in that regard this episode was much better than last. TBH, i think the LN itself is rather tough to be adapted. Maybe it shouldnt be adapted at all, i mean this LN got a lot, i mean like A LOT of explanation rather than action. If they're going to make an action without an explanation, they're gonna lack either one. I mean knowing that this anime only had 25/26 episodes?? the story might had been rushed - like previous episodes - I'm kinda confuse myself sometimes i must say for someone who's yet to read the LN, eps 12 is rather a good one than the previous one, it just scattered, so i hope they continue it this way |
“They stood together in a false intimacy, a nervous contact. And he was in love with her.” ― D.H. Lawrence, Women in Love |
| Liked this episode. Got some good info, a few games, a few people hurt during competition and more. Also Tatsuya building on his harem. |
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| Oh man,all the techno-babble is now hilarious to me. I paid attention to it at first,even watched some scenes multiple times to make sure I understood what was going on in hopes that I'll be rewarded for that. But nope,it's too much and I,like many,many others don't get any enjoyment from it. I paid almost zero attention to all the spell explanations this episode and will do so from now on. So Shizuku spammed the trigger on her Tatsuya-tuned CAD to cause some kind of box that would easily take down her targets. I get it,and mostly everyone does. But now comes the part where someone's gonna say: But you didn't completely understand it! So what? Do I NEED to do something that's not enjoyable in order to enjoy the show more? Obviously,that works a lot of times,but only if the overall enjoyment gained by doing something not enjoyable would be worthwhile,which in this case,it's not. I don't see why should we care about every little detail Mahouka wants to shove down our throats,besides for the ones who enjoy that aspect of the show in particular(not saying there's anything wrong with that,mind you). Even if so many details were really needed,the way they're explained is so boring...probably because the characters who are doing the explaining are bland & boring themselves. Speaking of characters: there's that phenomenon that occur's when you care about the characters enough that everything they do becomes a joy to watch. You all know it. I'm POSITIVE that if the characters were better written,then some viewers would complain less about all the exposition. Of course,that wouldn't completely fix the problem,but it'd help make make all the awfully placed expositions that ruin potentially exciting parts more bearable. Already 12 episodes in so I hardly believe that those of us who didn't enjoy it much so far will enjoy more later on. This might be the time to drop it if it wasn't for my rule where I'm gonna watch the hyped show of the season just to see what the hype is all about. Then again,Mahouka' doesn't seem to be THAT hyped...or maybe I'm mistaking? |
ManlyTearJun 22, 2014 11:19 AM
millie10468 said: And that's where you're wrong. He doesn't give a shit about anyone except his imouto so unless they do something specifically to Miyuki, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of saving anyone. I am 98% sure that the only reason he helped with the bus incident is because Miyuki was on the bus. OK, I gotta bring this up again, if he truly didn't care for other people, why exactly is he trying to make a perpetual power generator when that is probably one of the most selfless things he can do for humanity? Can you imagine: near limitless energy for everyone? You can't say it's only for Miyuki's sake, otherwise why endeavor something so grand? |
wrenchbread said: millie10468 said: And that's where you're wrong. He doesn't give a shit about anyone except his imouto so unless they do something specifically to Miyuki, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of saving anyone. I am 98% sure that the only reason he helped with the bus incident is because Miyuki was on the bus. OK, I gotta bring this up again, if he truly didn't care for other people, why exactly is he trying to make a perpetual power generator when that is probably one of the most selfless things he can do for humanity? Can you imagine: near limitless energy for everyone? You can't say it's only for Miyuki's sake, otherwise why endeavor something so grand? It's for Miyuki's sake,if strong magicians aren't just used 80% of the time for the military and have other options and the world can be more at peace if things like energy are more easily obtained,is the world that Tatsuya wants Miyuki to live in. |
wrenchbread said: millie10468 said: And that's where you're wrong. He doesn't give a shit about anyone except his imouto so unless they do something specifically to Miyuki, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of saving anyone. I am 98% sure that the only reason he helped with the bus incident is because Miyuki was on the bus. OK, I gotta bring this up again, if he truly didn't care for other people, why exactly is he trying to make a perpetual power generator when that is probably one of the most selfless things he can do for humanity? Can you imagine: near limitless energy for everyone? You can't say it's only for Miyuki's sake, otherwise why endeavor something so grand? He wants to change the perception of magicians as weapons and tools only by showing that they're capable of other non-war feats ex. is the power generator. From what I can see of his character, part of the reason is because Miyuki is a magician and a better world for magicians is a better world for Miyuki in the long run. The other part is that... he really really likes tinkering with stuff. It's one of the few things he genuinely enjoys doing in life. That other magicians will benefit from his ideas is merely a consequence and not the intended purpose of his goal. That's what I think anyway. If there was a way for life to be better for Miyuki without him having to do anything, you can bet he wouldn't be spending so much time on that goal and merely focusing on CAD stuff. |
OpalMidgeJun 22, 2014 11:57 AM
millie10468 said: He wants to change the perception of magicians as weapons and tools only by showing that they're capable of other non-war feats ex. is the power generator. From what I can see of his character, part of the reason is because Miyuki is a magician and a better world for magicians is a better world for Miyuki in the long run. The other part is that... he really really likes tinkering with stuff. It's one of the few things he genuinely enjoys doing in life. That other magicians will benefit from his ideas is merely a consequence and not the intended purpose of his goal. That's what I think anyway. If there was a way for life to be better for Miyuki without him having to do anything, you can bet he wouldn't be spending so much time on that goal and merely focusing on CAD stuff. So he does care. But does he really think that one technological breakthrough is gonna change how people view mages? That's a naive worldview and contradictory to how Tatsuya operates. I'm sure going into the future, they'll only change their views from them being only tools of wars to just tools. Like, oh hey you can do this for us too? Great. Oh, we got another war for you to fight in, report in tomorrow. No one is gonna suddenly phase out mages for war because someone invented a perpetual power generator. |
| Only good thing about this episode was that Tatsuya's harem is growing bigger. Hope to see some action next episode. |
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wrenchbread said: So he does care. But does he really think that one technological breakthrough is gonna change how people view mages? That's a naive worldview and contradictory to how Tatsuya operates. I'm sure going into the future, they'll only change their views from them being only tools of wars to just tools. Like, oh hey you can do this for us too? Great. Oh, we got another war for you to fight in, report in tomorrow. No one is gonna suddenly phase out mages for war because someone invented a perpetual power generator. It isn't the breakthrough in itself that is intended to change the perception of magicians, but the following changes brought with it. Furthering the dependency the society has on magicians - not only in maintaining the balance of power between the nations, but in civilian use too. Especially if one considers that the application of magicians until now is more or less limited to military use only - either directly on the frontlines or indirectly in the supporting industry (for example CAD production). So if magic seeps into and becomes essential for the everyday life of the civilian population. It is bound to have an effect on the perception of magicians. It cetainly helps to bridge the animosity large percentages of the populace hold towards magic because they only see its used in a militaristic context - associated with violence and destruction and therefore irrationaly feared as demonic or monstrous. |
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| all mighty tatsuya is now a professional doctor.. this show keeps getting worse better. |
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Asturaetus said: It isn't the breakthrough in itself that is intended to change the perception of magicians, but the following changes brought with it. Furthering the dependency the society has on magicians - not only in maintaining the balance of power between the nations, but in civilian use too. Especially if one considers that the application of magicians until now is more or less limited to military use only - either directly on the frontlines or indirectly in the supporting industry (for example CAD production). So if magic seeps into and becomes essential for the everyday life of the civilian population. It is bound to have an effect on the perception of magicians. It cetainly helps to bridge the animosity large percentages of the populace hold towards magic because they only see its used in a militaristic context - associated with violence and destruction and therefore irrationaly feared as demonic or monstrous. Don't you see that once they start introducing mages into the civilian sector they'll start taking jobs and positions from Muggles, further fueling more discrimination and resentment. Hell, one mage might be worth many, many Muggles by that point. In the US there are some who long have had this mentality toward illegal immigrants crossing the border in from Mexico, saying they're stealing our jobs and not paying taxes. Let's expand this to a worldwide scale in the Mahoukaverse, but instead of illegal immigrants, it's mages. Some people might think it's genocide, with their growing influence in the civilian sector undermining Muggle life. It's a zero-sum game. This isn't a simple problem you can solve. It's wishful thinking at best and awfully naive at worst. |
| @wrenchbread Unemployment and poverty are actually things that - as far as I have read - the novels haven't yet touched upon, so I can't really comment on what effect the involvment of magicians in the civilian sector would have or if these are even still an issue in Mahouka's heavily advanced world. Also even though after WW3 only a third of the world wide population remained - in comparison the percentage of magicians is still quite low. As far as Japan is concerned the number of their magicians is only somewhere around 18.000. Magic as they know it hasn't been around for much more than 50 years yet. Remember - they haven't even enough magicians to supply sufficient magic teachers for their schools. Which also was the reason for the separation between 1st and 2nd course students in 1st High. And even if they could broaden the possiblities for future magicians a little with the involvment in the civilian sector, the necessity for some to follow a military career would remain. So I wouldn't think that the negative impact you mentioned would come into effect very quick and therefore noticeable to the general public. More kind of a slow change. |
AsturaetusJun 22, 2014 2:42 PM
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Ahh too much information for one episode again! Its not a bad thing but now I have to rewatch this if I ever hope to understand whats going on. On the bright side, Honoka is looking and acting as cute as ever. My brain hurts. I think I'm going to watch a very simple slice-of-life to remedy the pain. |
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| I don't think the series will end in a positive note. People who have hated magicians will still not change their minds whether the reactor gets completed or not. Discrimination will still happen between magicians and humans like how the Sunnis and Shiites have been killing each other for millennia and worse, the reactor will be a target for a 9/11 scenario. |
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Orix said: I don't think the series will end in a positive note. People who have hated magicians will still not change their minds whether the reactor gets completed or not. Discrimination will still happen between magicians and humans like how the Sunnis and Shiites have been killing each other for millennia and worse, the reactor will be a target for a 9/11 scenario. You're right. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find people who think either Tatsuya or Miyuki will survive by the end of the series, which makes a bit of sense to me, especially in regards to Tatsuya. He's really something that shouldn't exist. The way the series is going, I'm almost certain tensions between non-magicians and ancient magicians and modern magicians will soon reach a boiling point. |
Iolo said: Liked this episode. Got some good info, a few games, a few people hurt during competition and more. Also Tatsuya building on his harem. You do realize that he is not capable of feeling any emotions due the process he went through so i doubt he has any interest towards girls. |
Sourire said: all mighty tatsuya is now a professional doctor.. this show keeps getting worse better. They did cut-off LN explanation about Tatsuya being able to perform basic surgeries, something he learned with Yotsuba guardian training. |
| more like hes slowly increasing his harem. .. I think this is the last time we hear the beautiful amazing LiSA Elisa combo right? T__T |
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| Not interested enough to make a new thread so here it goes: Some little bird told me Mahouka was initially thought as a harem high school etc... But somewhere the author flips it to take other direction. Well I don't trust birds that much, so off I go to search for the novel afterwords. |
| Will Tatsuya enter in the competition? The males aren't winning their events that much. |
AnimeFan500 said: Will Tatsuya enter in the competition? The males aren't winning their events that much. Does the Pope shit in the woods? |
| you guys really love debate =)) @animefan500 how do you think? :) |
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