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Jul 2, 2017 10:48 AM

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Cool but confusing as hell. Do I have to watch Fate/Stay Night to understand this fully or it has nothing to do?
Jul 2, 2017 10:51 AM

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ridley388 said:
Cool but confusing as hell. Do I have to watch Fate/Stay Night to understand this fully or it has nothing to do?

You don't have to watch anything
Jul 2, 2017 10:51 AM

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ridley388 said:
Cool but confusing as hell. Do I have to watch Fate/Stay Night to understand this fully or it has nothing to do?


Not really no. While knowing FSN stuff is beneficial, FSN anime stuff won't help with that.

Story wise this is completely separate work.
Jul 2, 2017 11:52 AM

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Was pretty good if I say so myself. Then again, I like most Fate stuff since it never bores me. Also (UTW subbed it, but don't ask where to get it)
Jul 2, 2017 11:53 AM

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The last third was the most interesting bit. Fate's first episodes are always filled with relatively stale exposition, but it always ends up picking up so I'm used to it.
Last bit was best. Mordred <3

MetaThPr4h said:
Fate entries never fail to deliver their first episode infodump of doom. I know I have a pretty bad attention span, but I'm still not sure how all of you mates manage to stay focused while tons of character (dat designs...) and lots of stuff get introduced all at the same time.


I don't blame you one bit lol
At least it wasn't an hour like F/Z's was.
Jul 2, 2017 12:07 PM
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Master piece.

A-1 did it, they did it.
Jul 2, 2017 12:12 PM

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That was a pretty great start.

The opening moments were awesome, the action is really nice and flashy, I hope they keep up that quality for the remainder of the series.

Rest of the episode was mostly just setup and establishing the setting of the Great Holy Grail War.

The servant summoning at the end was great, Mordred. :D

Huge props to UTW for rising out of the ashes to give us this sub. XD
Jul 2, 2017 12:17 PM

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The entire episode was boring until the last few minute when they summon the servants. 5/10 so far. I will see how the next episode goes. Hopefully I won't struggle to try not to fall asleep like this episode.
Jul 2, 2017 12:19 PM

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I know this is probably a really stupid question... But i have yet to watch any of the fate shos yet (I do plan on it though) But this looks pretty fun, so is that something you can watch without seeing any of the other shows?
Jul 2, 2017 12:24 PM

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SakurasouBusters said:
I know this is probably a really stupid question... But i have yet to watch any of the fate shos yet (I do plan on it though) But this looks pretty fun, so is that something you can watch without seeing any of the other shows?
Yes. You don't need to see the others, just know the general basis of the show.
Jul 2, 2017 12:25 PM

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Tyrel said:
SakurasouBusters said:
I know this is probably a really stupid question... But i have yet to watch any of the fate shos yet (I do plan on it though) But this looks pretty fun, so is that something you can watch without seeing any of the other shows?
Yes. You don't need to see the others, just know the general basis of the show.

Really? Thanks a bunch!
Jul 2, 2017 12:25 PM

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they failed the sound effects heavily lol .. also the art style kinda reminded me of an 2006 anime (which is not a necessarily a bad thing)

First episode was cool i'll definitely continue watching
Jul 2, 2017 12:26 PM

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"Sisi" means Lion. Ok I'm so triggered by this.
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Jul 2, 2017 12:31 PM

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I'm confused, which side are we supposed to root for? is the MC part of the Yggdmillenia faction? if so, why did they appear like the bad ones? xD
Jul 2, 2017 12:34 PM

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Excellent start. Good that this is a 2-cour so hopefully nothing will be too rushed. Looking forward to more epic stuff.
Jul 2, 2017 12:43 PM

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UTW is back doing fansubs, we have been blessed!!

very top tier animation, makes one think back about the glory of f/z season 2...

hello, hope's peak academy
Jul 2, 2017 12:50 PM

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better than I expected, 7 vs 7 war, cool animation, cool designed characters and familiar top notch seiyuu
whats with the backstory setting? there is kotomine-like shirou and his servant has pretty familiar seiyuu
and fuyuki war is 60 years ago??? is it distant sequel or alternate universe where that immortal guy won the fuyuki city grail war?

This is an alternate universe where the Greater Grail is stolen at the end of the Third Holy Grail War (1930s). This takes place after Fate/Zero since Waver is older (though the events of Zero did not happen, there was still another HGW where Waver got Iskander).
Toa_of_GallifreyJul 2, 2017 1:08 PM
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>not appreciating how much of a cunt Asuka is
How disgusting tbh
Jul 2, 2017 1:02 PM

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First great impression. The fight in the beginning was epic.

So Mordred was summoned. Loving her already. Also Jeanne d'Arc is joining in. Nice to see Waver. He still has that long hair.

Glad this is 2-cour.

Jul 2, 2017 1:05 PM
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Similar start to F/Z with a bucket of exposition, not that I care.
I expected a lot worse from A1 but they've done a decent enough job with the presentation and animation from what can I see with this first episode.
I heard the source material is trash, I hope they go anime original and tweak it in that case.
The Masters on both sides look so fucking bland, especially on the Red side, it seems obvious that aside from Modo reddo's master and church boy the other 5 will just get shafted or replaced, or their servants placed in the command of someone else.
Drake1000Jul 2, 2017 4:22 PM
Jul 2, 2017 1:14 PM
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Exposition OVERLOAD! I don't remember half the sh*t that was even said.
And Christ, the animation. It does not even exist. Shots where literally NOTHING is moving.
Why is this Fate when it has no actual connection to Stay Night or Zero?
Yeah. Dropped.
Jul 2, 2017 1:15 PM
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Say, was that conversation with Flatt and Waver in the LN? That sounded like something you'd hear in Strange Fake(which I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually happening at the same time. But I'm pretty sure it's in the Stay Night continuity.)
Jul 2, 2017 1:21 PM
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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Exposition OVERLOAD! I don't remember half the sh*t that was even said.
And Christ, the animation. It does not even exist. Shots where literally NOTHING is moving.
Why is this Fate when it has no actual connection to Stay Night or Zero?
Yeah. Dropped.


It's Fate/Apocrypha. It exists in a different timeline than Stay Night or Zero. You should have been paying attention at the mention of the 3rd Holy Grail War, where the Nazi stole the Greater Grail. That's the point of divergence from the Stay Night/Zero timeline.



Besides, Mordred's in here. MOEDRED! HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU DROP THIS?! WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE OTHER SERVANTS YET!



JEANNE D' ARC!

damn, I am so triggered by this.

Jul 2, 2017 1:25 PM
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Flat Escardos alone makes this episode perfect, thank you A-1! At the very least his appearance will be something to remember when this inevitably becomes shit in the latter parts.
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Jul 2, 2017 1:28 PM

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Pretty nice first episode in my opinion. The fight at the beginning had some really neat animation. Considering this will be 25 episodes, I'm expecting a nice ride, or at least a decent one.


Jul 2, 2017 1:30 PM

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Similar start to F/Z with a bucket of exposition, not that I care.
I expected a lot worse from A1 but they've done a decent enough job with the presentation and animation from what can I see with this first episode.
I heard the source material is trash, I hope they go anime original and tweak it in that case.
The Masters on both sides look so fucking bland, especially on the Red side, it seems obvious that aside from Modo reddo's master and church boy the other 5 will just get shafted or replaced, or placed in the command of someone else.


Apo's main draw is servants fucking shit up. Masters are there as a window dressing at most.
Jul 2, 2017 1:30 PM
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So as I pray, Unlimited Translation Works.
I loved it, could've been better at animation though.
No "guess that servant" for F/GO players.
Jul 2, 2017 1:34 PM

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Wow, this was probably the worst first episode I've seen in a while and that's saying something with garbage I've been unlucky to stumble upon in recent seasons. There wasn't a single good thing about it. Hell, even Viral's VA sounded like crap. It takes some skill to ruin such awesome voice.

And that's before mentioning what a fucking piece of garbage MC boy is. Holly shit, I hated him the moment he opened his mouth and every single line he uttered afterwards made me despise him even more. Compared to that the whole pointless battle nobody gives a shit about cliche at the start was nothing.

All in all, someone should have his fingers broken for making this abomination. Mind you, I'm not even a Fate fan, it's just that shit purely as some random title I decided to check out.
Ii tenki desu ne...
Jul 2, 2017 1:38 PM

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A nice first episode.
I liked Mordred's armor with her Iron Man's armor.
A good introduction, looking forward for the next episodes.


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Wow, this was probably the worst first episode I've seen in a while and that's saying something with garbage I've been unlucky to stumble upon in recent seasons. There wasn't a single good thing about it. Hell, even Viral's VA sounded like crap. It takes some skill to ruin such awesome voice.

And that's before mentioning what a fucking piece of garbage MC boy is. Holly shit, I hated him the moment he opened his mouth and every single line he uttered afterwards made me despise him even more. Compared to that the whole pointless battle nobody gives a shit about cliche at the start was nothing.

All in all, someone should have his fingers broken for making this abomination. Mind you, I'm not even a Fate fan, it's just that shit purely as some random title I decided to check out.

I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Jul 2, 2017 1:50 PM

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That was a pretty good start, a lot of cool and interesting characters. Tried manga, but couldn't get into it, i think in the animation it looked much better, kinda obvious but expect lots of crazy fights. It has been a long time watching anime for 2 seasons.
Jul 2, 2017 1:55 PM

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First off: poor souls are those people who didn't get all the references...

I'm glad they decided to continue the tradition and we see again the exclusive Fate "Cigarettes".

ITS FINALLY FUCKING HERE !!!
- Best Ship (no not "fake hero of nibelung" and Jeane) of the season !
- Best Waifu of the season !
- Best Trap of the season !

Its nice to see again El-Melloi II and more importantly finally Flatt ! Errrr The Hero of Romania the Prince of Wallachia and his "forest hunt" was exactly what was i expecting. Knight of Treachery at the end uuu it's finally here. Finally the all characters from books that i read are in motion great !

Also thanks to the GODS for the subs !
Jul 2, 2017 1:55 PM

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albertrojas said:




This totally spoils HF and HA and is not necessary to mention at all so could probably do with a deletion, spoiler or no

SabrinaKhuntia said:

Er, because multiverse, and even F/Z technically isn't in the same timeline as F/SN (which I recently learned from @astroprogs).

Well, that was essentially a handwave from Nasu to cover up the inconsistencies between what FSN and HA say happened in the Fourth War and what F/Z depicts but yes it's a "slightly alternate" universe

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I'm glad they decided to continue the tradition and we see again the exclusive Fate "Cigarettes".

excuse you but those are toukos and therefore knk-first cigarettes
Jul 2, 2017 1:56 PM

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Guilek said:
I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Twat who has to use fingers to count to 14 who bumped into generic big "cool dude in shades". And I really don't care if he's not the only MC, I've seen enough.
Ii tenki desu ne...
Jul 2, 2017 2:00 PM

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excuse you but those are toukos and therefore knk-first cigarettes

Yep but it's great to seen them here they were also in Zero.
Jul 2, 2017 2:09 PM

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Antanaru said:
Guilek said:
I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Twat who has to use fingers to count to 14 who bumped into generic big "cool dude in shades". And I really don't care if he's not the only MC, I've seen enough.

Yeah that's what I thought.

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Antanaru said:
Guilek said:
I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Twat who has to use fingers to count to 14 who bumped into generic big "cool dude in shades". And I really don't care if he's not the only MC, I've seen enough.


He is an important character with a lot of screen time , I suggest you drop this because he will annoy you even more in future episodes…...

He will never appear again, you were triggered by nothing
Jul 2, 2017 2:09 PM

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Antanaru said:
Guilek said:
I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Twat who has to use fingers to count to 14 who bumped into generic big "cool dude in shades". And I really don't care if he's not the only MC, I've seen enough.

That's... not even an Apocrypha character. He's an anime-origianl cameo from Fate/Strange Fake. We most likely not even going to see him again.
Jul 2, 2017 2:10 PM

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This is intense asf but dam Mordred(Saber of Red) is more wild and tomboyish than Saber.
Jul 2, 2017 2:10 PM

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Swagernator said:
Also thanks to the GODS for the subs !

Thanks Netflix for reviving fansub! UTW on top of that!

Antanaru said:
Guilek said:
I'm curious who is the mc for you?
Twat who has to use fingers to count to 14 who bumped into generic big "cool dude in shades". And I really don't care if he's not the only MC, I've seen enough.

He is just a cameo character, kek.
Jul 2, 2017 2:13 PM

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The waiting is over, blessed are the fansubbers.

That was typical Fate from the start, a lot action and summoning of Servants, have to say if anything this show is an eye candy. The character designs are cool and the animation is pretty good.

Although I wasn't looking forward to this, this episode was kinda hype, hope it will be another hit of A1 and not one of the failures.
FMmatronJul 2, 2017 2:24 PM

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Jul 2, 2017 2:14 PM

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He is just a cameo character, kek.

Don't know why but for me he was like Stan Lee in MCU lol

Also you never know if there somewhere is not a secret hidden plan for Strange Fake Anime...
Jul 2, 2017 2:21 PM
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SabrinaKhuntia said:
AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Exposition OVERLOAD!


Well that's also exactly what happened in the first episode of Zero (more than double the length too) and the second episode of UBW.

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Why is this Fate when it has no actual connection to Stay Night or Zero?


Er, because multiverse, and even F/Z technically isn't in the same timeline as F/SN (which I recently learned from @astroprogs). And besides, Fate spinoffs aren't anything new, there's a bunch of LNs and manga, too.


Fate/Zero's 1st ep had PLENTY of dialogue that had heart, bantering, motivation, drama, just like the rest of the anime.
What's the point of the multiverse?
Hell, Fate/Apocrypha could've taken place during the FIRST Holy Grail War, in order to give more exact backstory on the grain.
Jul 2, 2017 2:24 PM

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Well, this was surprisingly more entertaining than I expected. Still don't give a flying crap about any of the cast or the typical magical exposition since this is a Fate series after all and they are not exactly known for having riveting characters that goes past the status of generic, emotionless cannon fodder.

That battle at the beginning was some nice popcorn material though and despite its shortcuts and the average direction, it stills comes off as more exciting than anything Ufotable has done in terms of action (who knew that not replacing 2D assets with cheap CG effects would make things look better...). It's kind of funny how a studio like Ufo gets so much praise for its animation and fights yet A-1 pictures of all studios manages to make flashy battles that are less eye-rollingly dull.
Jul 2, 2017 2:26 PM

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I don't blame you one bit lol
At least it wasn't an hour like F/Z's was.


But F/Z Intro was amazing, well paced, and the summoning scene still give me chills, it was soooo cool.

About the chapter, I just read like half of APO, and even if I dont have a huge love for TEAM Jeanne, it has potential, and I expect a lot from Mordred-Shishigo pair
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Jul 2, 2017 2:31 PM

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Omg. This is what i expected. Fate always will be my favourite series. I can't wait to see more Jeanne. My beloved 5 star servant
Jul 2, 2017 2:34 PM
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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Exposition OVERLOAD! I don't remember half the sh*t that was even said.
And Christ, the animation. It does not even exist. Shots where literally NOTHING is moving.
Why is this Fate when it has no actual connection to Stay Night or Zero?
Yeah. Dropped.


It's Fate/Apocrypha. It exists in a different timeline than Stay Night or Zero. You should have been paying attention at the mention of the 3rd Holy Grail War, where the Nazi stole the Greater Grail. That's the point of divergence from the Stay Night/Zero timeline.



Besides, Mordred's in here. MOEDRED! HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU DROP THIS?! WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE OTHER SERVANTS YET!



JEANNE D' ARC!

damn, I am so triggered by this.



...I KNOW it's in a different timeline. What part of the, "Why is this Fate when it has no actual connection to Stay Night or Zero?" Did you miss? Was my sentence too long for you?

One of the big draws of a battle royale is the question of WHY the participants, are fighting. This ep hinted at 0 motivations other than, "because I'm on this side". Zero, and even Stay Night, had clear character motives in their ep 1's.
Also, NONE of the characters have any real personality in this ep, indicating that they'll have very little in the rest of the anime. Even Zero managed to give you decent insight to the characters' personalities, in the 1st ep.
Servants in Fate are so different in personality, and have next to no backstory explained, that they might as well not even be based off of pre-existent charcaters.
Besides, 14 masters. AND 14 Servants. 28 characters in total + Nasuverse = Clusterfuck of exposition, pacing, and keeping track of what the hell is going on, all evidenced within this 1st ep.
The fights move so fast I can't see jack, but everyone's gonna love them because, "So much movement!"
The animation barely exists, but people think it's "cool" because they don't know the difference between art and the actual animation.
And really?! The HOLY GRAIL: the evil magic thing that CANNOT be retrieved until the war is over, or by some magic circumstance contrivance whatever...gets stolen out of nowhere...by a bunch of f*cking Nazis.
Lame.
Also, Jean is in Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Souls which is airing right now, so...yeah.
Jul 2, 2017 2:35 PM

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This was a'ight.

I'm not really familiar with the source material for this one so I don't know what to expect. Jeanne is a good start tho, Saber of Red looked kinda weird (her face to be precise), but more importantly I hope she's better than the original blue one (come at me waifufags).

The action was decent but is missing something. Dunno what to call it, "punch" or "impact" maybe? Like that explosion looked okay but it felt underwhelming. Some other scenes could have benefited from more omph for sure.
Jul 2, 2017 2:36 PM

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Hmpf... the amount of explanation and exposition A-1 did was really abysmal. Show not tell, for god's sake!

It felt empty, generic, the new great grail war that clearly lack its individuality and looks like every other battle royale.

Yes, is still a Fate, that thing was pretty much given but I simply can't feel it, seems like the director of Charlotte (why,..why him?) didn't understand what Nasuverse is about.

There is still (very) small hope this gets decent at least but I honestly doubt it would get anything close to the great. I actually liked Grand Order oneshot (although inferior still) better than this.
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Jul 2, 2017 2:38 PM
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SabrinaKhuntia said:
AnimeFanboy1234 said:


Fate/Zero's 1st ep had PLENTY of dialogue that had heart, bantering, motivation, drama, just like the rest of the anime.


Oh F/Z is my favorite LN and the anime did a pretty good job of adapting it, so I don't disagree...

What I am referring to is parts in the first episode like Tokiomi and Risei literally walking around Kirei in a circle for like 5 minutes straight. If people just dismissed that as exposition overload, then they probably would've missed out on a lot of the information that was mentioned, right? Same thing here, you sort of have to know the format of the war since it's different from the other ones and why the Red faction is even fighting against the Yggdmillennia clan etc etc.


That was only 5 minutes. Also, it looked so goofy, it was at least entertaining.
"Same thing here, you sort of have to know the format of the war since it's different from the other ones and why the Red faction is even fighting against the Yggdmillennia clan etc etc"
Aw, the classic, "Well, there's no other way, becasue this is how the story structured!" excuse by naive fans who don't know jack about actually writing, because they assume the process is just, "Well, this is gonna be the plot, this and here, and everything's gonna go on its own, it won't be my fault at all if anything ends up being boring!"
Go write a book for a minimal of 4 hours and then come back and tell me, "you sort of have to know the format of the war since it's different from the other ones and why the Red faction is even fighting against the Yggdmillennia clan etc etc"
Jul 2, 2017 2:38 PM

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Like I honestly hadn't planned on watching another Fate series but goddamn I gave episode 1 a try and it didn't faild to impress. Already hyped up about Mordred and the plot is already interesting. If 7 servants weren't enough why not just double the amount? lol
Jul 2, 2017 2:39 PM

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Really excited for the next episode. Can't wait to see more of Jeane as she's already my favorite character based on design alone.
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