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Jul 26, 2013 5:20 PM
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I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode. Due to my favorite character showing her style. Obviously people who play the game and people who see spoilers already know who I'm talking about. Just Viva la Genocidala.
Jul 26, 2013 5:26 PM
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OK well from the case evidence i can gather certain things. First of all the Genocider only kills male, so either this genocider is crazy or that one girl that died is actually a guy. Second, the person obviously killed because they knew that there secret would get out anway. Know I would have to assume that the killer is a girl clearly and becasuse this person is said to have personallity disorder i would have to guess someone unstable. And also with the fact that the Togami lover is acting strange and knew of the case and was avidly in the library, I shall presume that she is the killer.
If she is i am sad because she is my favorite, ilove her craziness.
Jul 26, 2013 5:33 PM
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trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?
Jul 26, 2013 5:46 PM
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suynk said:
trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?

I don't see why this needs a spoiler...It doesn't give anything away except killer is female which is easily concluded.
Jul 26, 2013 5:51 PM
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ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?

I don't see why this needs a spoiler...It doesn't give anything away except killer is female which is easily concluded.


Jul 26, 2013 5:55 PM
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suynk said:
ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?

I don't see why this needs a spoiler...It doesn't give anything away except killer is female which is easily concluded.



Because a guy can't enter the girls bathroom
Jul 26, 2013 5:57 PM

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I actually liked the ED of this episode. This ED video included Leon who died in episode 3 and Chihiro who died in this episode apart from Sayaka and Junko who both died in episode 2.

I was shocked seeing Chihiro's death. I want her (or his) killer to be exposed as well.
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Jul 26, 2013 6:01 PM

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Lol this getting more interesting with each post XD



I still don't understand why people want to drag a long investigation to a 13 episode series, it's impossible to put too many hours in 20ish minutes.
Jul 26, 2013 6:03 PM
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ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?

I don't see why this needs a spoiler...It doesn't give anything away except killer is female which is easily concluded.



Because a guy can't enter the girls bathroom


Umm -_- First of all, there's a MAJOR difference in first-time viewers trying to figure out things from the evidence and someone who already knows the story going "Yep, this is what happens. obvious right?" Besides,
Jul 26, 2013 6:07 PM
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Oops think I missed something obvious ><
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They cramed a lot of stuff in 1 episode, well its bound to happen given that the series has only 13 episodes. They at least put all the important stuff though.

Wow, there's a lot of pretentious people in this thread.. ^^;
Jul 26, 2013 6:11 PM

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I wasn't expecting to see Naegi in the shower, that really caught me off guard :/
Also, I'm starting to find Togami to be more of an interesting character because of this episode, it also seems like he knows who the culprit is already. Also, I didn't think that Touko would be the type of person to have feelings for somebody, but the faces she made were just hilarious.

I already have a theory on who the culprit judging by all the evidence and how everyone was acting, so I hope there's another one of those threads about the case like the one for episode 2.
Jul 26, 2013 6:12 PM
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suynk said:
ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
trannon1 said:
I'm just waiting ferociously for next episode.


Really... Is putting on a spoiler tag that difficult?

I don't see why this needs a spoiler...It doesn't give anything away except killer is female which is easily concluded.[/quote

Because a guy can't enter the girls bathroom


Umm -_- First of all, there's a MAJOR difference in first-time viewers trying to figure out things from the evidence and someone who already knows the story going "Yep, this is what happens. obvious right?" Besides,

I don't know the story. I am just drawing conclusions that were in this episode. I could be wrong and seeing other theories I already found I hole in mine possibly. If you didn't notice I am not the person that gave the "spoiler". I was just stating that I don't think he needed a spoiler tag.
Jul 26, 2013 6:17 PM
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ponygon123 said:
suynk said:
ponygon123 said:
suynk said:

I don't know the story. I am just drawing conclusions that were in this episode. I could be wrong and seeing other theories I already found I hole in mine possibly. If you didn't notice I am not the person that gave the "spoiler". I was just stating that I don't think he needed a spoiler tag.


Oh sorry about that. I confused you with the first guy. I still think people who already know the story should put all they know under the spoiler tag instead of getting it out so matter-of-factly.
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ihateeveryone said:

GUYS
HIS SMILE

THAT IST HE ENTIRE ANIME BUDGET WENT INTO ANIMATING THAT SCENE AND I AM OKAY WITH THIS

yes yes yes xdd
Jul 26, 2013 6:25 PM

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terrible pacing
one dimensional characters
purple blood
stupid murder messages

= 2/5
Jul 26, 2013 6:29 PM

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Had a feeling she would die. Time to deduce the case
Jul 26, 2013 6:32 PM
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Oh New evidence I found. Bloody fever could relate to the guys taking the spa thing. I would doubt the student council guy would do it so it would be the other guy.
Jul 26, 2013 6:38 PM

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dat op
Jul 26, 2013 6:59 PM

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VoidNoodle said:
Raisken said:
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People are way better coming up with what happened in the murder than I was when I played the game. I guessed zero of the cases even close to right, but now that I know them all it seems so obvious what happened.

Although some people seem TOO right... kinda makes me think they already know and just act like they don't


I am the same, played the game and never got the culprit until the class trial, and their testimony not right or just something don't adding up like they knew something beforehand the class trial started and never was mentioned to anyone.
Case 1 with Leon, I deducted it was a dying message and to rotate it, I got 11037 which I made into LEO but didn't think of 11 to be N xD. But Leo was good enough already if you checked their names.

Like you I am in disbelief when they can name culprits WITHOUT class trial, which is near to impossible, until you knew about some things before. To add it up anime DON'T GIVE us all evidences and testimony's, so how the hell can they give already a name of the culprit with so little information.
If the same will be for Case 3, which is a mass twist of a case, I AM CERTAIN THEN that they knew it already and are trying to show off...


Same here, Case 1 was the only case where I am sure who the killer is. I never got who the killer is on Case 2 until the Class Trial itself(the evidences where pretty vague, they were explained more, and also more evidences were added I think, during the class trial.)

And yes, Case 3 is twisty as hell. But kinda obvious if you look at it closely. Case 4, on the other hand...


Shhh let's not talk about Case 4 please
Jul 26, 2013 6:59 PM

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dunno why people still whining about the pacing *facepalm*
somebody has already stated last episode,
that the anime's main purpose is obviously to promote the game,
if you want more detailed explanation and characterisation, just play the game (has it been translated already ?)
Jul 26, 2013 7:08 PM

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Fukawa said she wouldn't let Genocider Syo do as SHE pleases, so its a girl then? is it problem with the sub or its correct?
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Jul 26, 2013 7:19 PM
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Eh rewatched it and i still think Fukawa is the killer from what i can draw. It is far from concrete but just makes the most sense at this moment.
Jul 26, 2013 7:21 PM
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xKirix said:
Fukawa said she wouldn't let Genocider Syo do as SHE pleases, so its a girl then? is it problem with the sub or its correct?


She didn't use any gender specific pronouns in the japanese audio.
Jul 26, 2013 7:38 PM

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Celestia is as cute as ever <3 :D:D

It's getting better, I might play the VN after watching the anime, seems like it would be fun.
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Jul 26, 2013 7:44 PM

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Celestia is as cute as ever <3 :D:D

It's getting better, I might play the VN after watching the anime, seems like it would be fun.
its way more fun to do it the other way around, VN then the anime

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 26, 2013 8:00 PM

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Wow, I am surprised so many fan girls like Togami.
Jul 26, 2013 8:06 PM

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NO NOT FUJISAKI ;_; Fujisaki was my favourite- even if he was a trap.. I wonder who killed Fujisaki :'c
And Togami is a little shit.
Jul 26, 2013 8:09 PM

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suynk said:
xKirix said:
Fukawa said she wouldn't let Genocider Syo do as SHE pleases, so its a girl then? is it problem with the sub or its correct?


She didn't use any gender specific pronouns in the japanese audio.

I see, then as I suspected. The sub group might play the game before.
Also, Fukawa is the most suspicious, but I don't know how she managed to lift that dumbbell, so... maybe not her.
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characters that are "female" have male VAs.
so from the beginning I assumed that this character is a transvestite
that voice bothered me too much not to think that
Jul 26, 2013 8:27 PM

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Wow, ever since I started playing the game I notice even more how rushed this is. They left out a lot information for the viewer, like how Ishumaru and Oowada fought, how creepy Fukawa is, and why Fujisaki was trying to work out. I don't know if everyone can tell Ishimaru and Oowada were having their challenge in a sauna, and Oowada offered to keep his clothes on to show how manly he is.

This adaptation is fine, but I'm glad I'm playing the game first. They throw out all the evidence you're supposed to search for so fast.
Jul 26, 2013 9:09 PM

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Mkay, first of all, where did you guys get geocider syo = biker gang member? They're like hell`s angels here, tough, gets into trouble, and makes old people nervous. Genocider Syo sounds more like a yakuza or serial killer IO to me.

Yakuza is out cause they're students, so that tells me one of them
A: really DID NOT want their past coming out.
B: Is a killer pre-anime

My suspects...


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LEGOF said:
Wow, ever since I started playing the game I notice even more how rushed this is. They left out a lot information for the viewer, like how Ishumaru and Oowada fought, how creepy Fukawa is, and why Fujisaki was trying to work out. I don't know if everyone can tell Ishimaru and Oowada were having their challenge in a sauna, and Oowada offered to keep his clothes on to show how manly he is.
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The producers specifically said that "you might want to play the game first".
And like I said previously, the anime has a more subtle approach on how things are shown and tell, the anime doesn't have the time to spell it out loud. They don't need Mondo to speak out, they just need to show him visually.

By now, the ones who already played the game should think carefully before posting anything from their experience playing the game. If it doesn't exist in the anime, let it be. What happens in the game stays in the game.

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Jul 26, 2013 9:21 PM

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I love it how some people around here couldnt figure it out themselves and post out of envy that "they are cheating" .
"I think the kind of you are annoying and should be banned" - deshou?
A deja vu with the sentence above?
Yeah , me too . It's the stereotypically thinking of a .... not so uhm mentally evolved creature.

Like I said , "youtube search" . Good idea , Imma go do that 'cuz I really didnt thought of searching anything , thanks for the idea.
Go ape , mon ami join your monkey friends if "I think the kind of you are .... and should be banned" is your way of thinking .
Glad I havent spoiled anything....shit would go serious.
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Jul 26, 2013 9:43 PM

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From what I've seen, it was pretty good, logically as well. It makes sense considering the anime will not have the luxury to ever show Naegi ultilizing "Free Time".


The time they could have spent animating Free Time was spent on animating naked Naegi.
Jul 26, 2013 9:45 PM

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I suspect


So...you read in my above spoiler tags, huh? I used them for a reason, you know.
Jul 26, 2013 9:52 PM
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so i still think that chihiro is a guy, meaning that it was one of the girls that killed him, so i'm going to say fukawa

Edit: ok, after rewatching parts of the episode, i'm sure the rooms were switched, so my theory on fukawa is bust, so now i think it's Togami, probably not though, it's just he knew about the murder case thing(xenocide?)
tbh, i have no idea this time
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Great episode. The events that followed in this trial were presented in a much more organized manner. Naked Naegi was odd and ludicrously unnecessary though!
Jul 26, 2013 10:26 PM

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Coldness said:
Naked Naegi was odd and ludicrously unnecessary though!
maybe its there to negate showing kirigiri's ass in the game

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 26, 2013 10:35 PM

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leeo268 said:
Wow, I am surprised so many fan girls like Togami.

And you were never annoyed by Asahina, of course. Those who hate Togami are most likely male, blinded by the beauty of Asahina.
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Leapling said:
Those who hate Togami are most likely male, blinded by the beauty of Asahina.


Hey, Asahina's my favorite character and I'm not physically attracted to her in the slightest! I didn't like Togami at first because he was being a prick to everyone. Yeah, he definitely made the story more interesting but I still didn't like him. Arrogant, entitled, elitist, etc people are not people I admire or people that are going to inspire or impact me. Of course, Togami has his good qualities (logical and wise come to mind) and Asahina has her bad qualities. Characters all have their quirks and picking favorites is a subjective thing - everyone has their own reasons for liking someone. So please don't generalize why people like/hate a certain character; it's a pretty shallow thing to do.
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Leapling said:

And you were never annoyed by Asahina, of course. Those who hate Togami are most likely male, blinded by the beauty of Asahina.
They are jsut acting tsun tsun man or woman they all want togami

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 26, 2013 11:26 PM

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Well the end of this episode was interesting. Thought it was cool how they kinda lulled us to sleep with SoL moments in the first half, then we get a murder in the second half. The suspects for this seem pretty obvious (I haven't played the game), so it's gonna be interesting to see if there's a surprise or not wrt who the murderer is next episode or if it's gonna be an obvious choice.
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Jul 26, 2013 11:39 PM

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^I'm female and don't like Togami. Stop trying to generalise people.
Jul 26, 2013 11:48 PM

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Naked Naegi at the beginning was quite odd. The OP was absolutely hilarious. Monobear singing it and a combo at the bottom appearing reminded me of Taiko. xD Ishida and Mondo battled it out in the sauna and suddenly became best friends LOL! xD This time Chihiro died. The Genocider Syo concept is pretty creepy. Fukawa totally loves Togami but man she's pretty weird. I wonder who's the murderer this time. Maybe it is Togami? Overall great episode. Also, I stall can't get enough of the ED <3
Jul 26, 2013 11:59 PM

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My favorite character died. DONE.
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
Leapling said:

And you were never annoyed by Asahina, of course. Those who hate Togami are most likely male, blinded by the beauty of Asahina.
They are jsut acting tsun tsun man or woman they all want togami

Exactly. Very manly of you to admit that.

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My favorite character died. DONE.

I know that feeling.
Jul 27, 2013 12:31 AM

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I both hate an love Togami. I'd probably have to give an essay to explain my way of thinking, but I've decided I'll just leave it at that.
It's a complicated love and hate relationship, except I'd probably have to say I love him a little bit more.

People who hate Togami are probably butt hurt that he probably spent hours in the library reading a perfect way to kill Chihiro who is
probably their favorite character. The things is...I really do think that having Togami be the actual culprit would be highly unlikely. Too obvious. He's not a dumb character who would act in a way that would get himself killed, he's at least smarter than that.
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Chanaynay said:
Leapling said:
Those who hate Togami are most likely male, blinded by the beauty of Asahina.


Hey, Asahina's my favorite character and I'm not physically attracted to her in the slightest! I didn't like Togami at first because he was being a prick to everyone. Yeah, he definitely made the story more interesting but I still didn't like him. Arrogant, entitled, elitist, etc people are not people I admire or people that are going to inspire or impact me. Of course, Togami has his good qualities (logical and wise come to mind) and Asahina has her bad qualities. Characters all have their quirks and picking favorites is a subjective thing - everyone has their own reasons for liking someone. So please don't generalize why people like/hate a certain character; it's a pretty shallow thing to do.


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VanishingKira said:
I suspect


So...you read in my above spoiler tags, huh? I used them for a reason, you know.

Spoilers,I just guessed based on the obvious signs that were shown in the episode.You'd have to be blind not to figure it out on your own.
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