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Mar 27, 2021 7:35 PM

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I dunno.. whole their reconcilliant felt pretty awkward, he was so self-centred it was almost out of character (kinda hypocrital after what he said) and his "proof" was big naive way to proving the proof by proving that the proof exists (basically, he didn't prove anything and she was right telling him that).
Guess she didn't really want to lose their relationship afterall and what he said about not having a goal in her life was probably the only reason why she didn't turn around on spot and walked away. Cause honestly, outside of his big confidence he acted like textook case of rejected boyfriend wanting to get just one more chance before.

Kinda sad for Fuuka's role in all this. Yes, he opened to her and she did the same and they are probably closer than even him and Hinami but she telling him to go for Hinami after what he said was classic anime trope when the side-heroine selflessly steps down in favor of main girl and I pretty much hated it as whole scene was absolutely perfect moment to deepen their relationship even more.

7/10 for this season and I enjoyed it a lot, but there is big IF as we don't know if they will animate more cours than this.
Mar 27, 2021 7:47 PM

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I don't like how this show has MC torn between two good girls. Ironically, Hinami shot herself in the foot a bit after Episode 11. Still, I feel like he's going to pull a Subaru and be like, "Sorry I love Hinami." Kikuchi doesn't deserve that.

I will say, this show has done a good job of criticizing normies. Like, what're we doing? What everyone else thinks we should? MC analyzes the situation better than I expected.

In regards to Episode 11, Hinami is talking a lot of shit for someone who can't beat Tomozaki in Taakcam. I'm glad he used that as part of his argument here in 12.

I liked this show more than I thought I would. Though I can't particularly recommend it to anyone. It's pretty esoteric. Based on that ending, it doesn't seem like we're getting a second season either. I'd probably watch it if we managed to get it though.

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Mar 27, 2021 9:57 PM
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Mich666 said:
I dunno.. whole their reconcilliant felt pretty awkward, he was so self-centred it was almost out of character (kinda hypocrital after what he said) and his "proof" was big naive way to proving the proof by proving that the proof exists (basically, he didn't prove anything and she was right telling him that).
Guess she didn't really want to lose their relationship afterall and what he said about not having a goal in her life was probably the only reason why she didn't turn around on spot and walked away. Cause honestly, outside of his big confidence he acted like textook case of rejected boyfriend wanting to get just one more chance before.

Kinda sad for Fuuka's role in all this. Yes, he opened to her and she did the same and they are probably closer than even him and Hinami but she telling him to go for Hinami after what he said was classic anime trope when the side-heroine selflessly steps down in favor of main girl and I pretty much hated it as whole scene was absolutely perfect moment to deepen their relationship even more.

7/10 for this season and I enjoyed it a lot, but there is big IF as we don't know if they will animate more cours than this.


The reason why Aoi agreed to what he was saying was because he forced her to accept her own logic; if SHE wasn't willing to abide by his theory the same way he was willing to abide by hers at the very beginning then she's admitting that she doesn't have the confidence to believe that her way of life is correct. She's too proud to accept that so she's going to let him try so that she can prove him wrong. It didn't look like she was "agreeing" with him, as much as humoring him.

Also, Fuuka didn't tell him to go for Hinami, she told him to treasure her. There's a difference, and that's because Tomozaki only likes Hinami as a friend.
Mar 28, 2021 1:02 AM

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I liked the series and Tomozaki's character growth, but was disappointed in Aoi's character . She was willing to end her friendship with Tomozaki on the spot after learning he had different values than her, but after a little speech everything is ok. Tomozaki's make up speech feels like a challenge against an antagonist, yet the show seems to want her to be a good guy. She still views the world from an outside perspective, she hasn't grown at all, and it doesn't seem like she's open to growing.

I think this conflict would have been a lot better if it hadn't been allocated to a small portion of the last two episodes. It kind of spoiled the show for me.
Mar 28, 2021 3:59 AM
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This episode was deep, ending was awesome, both characters are awesome. Hope there will be a season 2
Mar 28, 2021 5:21 AM
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Nice analogy where Tomozaki added the colorful fireworks pin onto the grey backpack.
Cool how his imouto got him out of a low, and Kikuchi made him realize Aoi isn't all wrong, and confronting their ideals in the teacher-student role reversal.
Some episodes bit dry, and later half where Aoi's mask made things bit uneasy, but the themes, Tomozaki's gradual development was great to follow.
Mar 28, 2021 5:32 AM
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Eh pretty weak finale tbh compared to previous ep but its fine I suppose. Will def watch if there's season 2 or something.
Mar 28, 2021 6:34 AM

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Need season 2, give it to us soon.
Mar 28, 2021 7:11 AM

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overall i give score 8/10
story getting better and better and now i really want season 2 !!

tomozaki x hinami is the best couple !! but tomozaki x kikuchi is big rival too
Mar 28, 2021 10:45 AM

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That was a pretty decent finale but nothing amazing. I think it could've had more oomph if Hinami & Tomozaki had debated more about their ideas on winning at life, which would've inevitably given us more of an insight into why Hinami thinks about socialising the way she does.

Overall, this was a surprisingly great anime. It had a lot of moments that made you really think about your own outlook on life and the whole idea of socialising. The characters were likable enough with Tomozaki being an MC that we could really root for and care about. I do think it kinda sagged in the middle though with the Mimimi episodes and it didn't really land the end but it's certainly worth a watch and I'd love to see a Season 2!
Mar 28, 2021 11:07 AM

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All their points of views are not wrong, but life is more like string theory.

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Mar 28, 2021 1:33 PM

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Forgot to comment on this after I watched it but I enjoyed the show and this finale.

I'm glad Tomozaki reconciled with Hinami and I like how he said he still wanted her help but that he'd only take the things he feels is important and he can agree with it from her. I also like how he used his status in 'Not Smash' to prove his point.

Overall, I liked the show. It was interesting, some parts were a little tough rather awkward to watch but I think the show is heading in the right direction in terms of the story and what it's trying to convey using Tomozaki's anti-social nature and how to come out of it and experience life. The characters were fun, particularly all the girls were great. I would watch a second season if there's one.

7/10
Mar 28, 2021 3:26 PM

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Show had me hooked from episode one after starting it like five weeks into the season. Loved every minute of it, aside from Hinami flipping out last episode. Gave it a 10/10.
Mar 28, 2021 6:09 PM
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Why is this tagged with romance? Talk about a scam!
Mar 28, 2021 6:21 PM
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Fumiya and Aoi made up. Well, Fumiya used the reverse card. lol. It's good too see that Fumiya really improved in every aspect of life. Thanks to Aoi and of course because of his efforts, because he tried the "Game of Life."

I'm hoping that Fumiya and Aoi will end up together. Fuuka is kind but her relationship with Fumiya seems motherly or sisterly. On the other hand, Aoi is really helping Fumiya to improve holistically. Fumiya even said thank you for "adding so much color to my world" and giving Aoi's backpack together with the pin she like - that's so sweet. lol. Plus only around Fumiya Aoi can be in her true self, not using a mask and just pretending to shine but she's actually gloomy inside. I want an Aoi backstory. I wanna know why she firmly believe that our "true desires" doesn't exist. Well, I guess it's time for Fumiya to teach and prove to Aoi that ttur desires exist and give color to her dark/gray world.

Overall, this anime is really fascinating and entertaining. Looking forward for a 2nd season and even more development of the characters' relationships.

Mar 28, 2021 7:41 PM
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Tireless said:
Why is this tagged with romance? Talk about a scam!


Because it is a romance. Or were you not paying attention to the burgeoning romance between Tomozaki and Fuuka on their moments in the library and their dates.
Mar 28, 2021 10:08 PM

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Show was so so. MC was not a shounen badass. He can beat the popular girl in smash bros, big deal. He's a hikikomori. Mimimi best girl. Fuuka is boring.
Mar 28, 2021 10:26 PM
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Not a bad ending but I am not sure that I gained anything from it. However, I did like the feeling that our MC will be fine now that he is out of his shell. He is cleaned up still and has a job so his social disfunction is on the downhill slide. I would watch a season 2 if it came out. All in all........ 7/10.

Mar 28, 2021 11:43 PM

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Aoi is such a cunt. Lol. I bet he'll pick her at the very end too or some goofy shit like that. Fuck her.
Mar 29, 2021 3:36 AM
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"new oregairu bruh,trust me it will be as good" what a joke,what an insulting joke.

when the author want to write something like oregairu,but oregairu isnt good "self insert" for "no life pathetic loser typical low skill gamer/smas bros gamer that want to be a SIMS character groomed by asuna,i mean a goddess perfect mary sue",then there u go,u got this.

-the mc is typical low skill no life smash bros hating normie and real life,thats it,nothing else(but ofc here he is no 1 rank because self insert wish fulfillment duh).
-the main heroine aoi,imagine ur perfect unrealistic goddess/girl,there u go.(but she is normie aka riajuu so she had to be a bitch)
then the end ep now mc become normie,normie smash bros pro lol and probably gonna pick 1 heroine become his gf then in the end choose aoi ofc,

thats it really,the perfect example of fake,fake character,story exactly like rent girlfriend.
Mar 29, 2021 7:33 AM
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MugenNoShirayuki said:
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I wasn't reading the LN but he should have been able to retain some skills after a fortnight. He should never become reliant on Aoi.

If this continues, I hope to see him bringing her down a peg or two. Now that he has met other people, her manipulation has nothing to teach him. I hope at no stage will he see her as a viable romance option, although that is probably too much too hope for, unless she does a total 360 and admits all her mistakes.


He did retain the skills, as shown by how he put effort into his appearance later. He just didn't feel like he should use them or that there was any point, because he was just a bottom-tier character.


Yes, for sure. Pity he didn't come to the realisation that there isn't really any such thing as a bottom tier character and have more faith in himself, rather than worry about what others think.
Mar 29, 2021 7:35 AM
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MugenNoShirayuki said:
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I think the original premise is a stretch, to be honest. Aoi's behaviour is not really easy to understand. She's far too manipulative, it is all well and good wanting to improve yourself, and telling him to get a part time job is great. But involving other people is just wrong, however you look at it.

I thought he was going to cave in to her and I would have been wondering what kind of message the author is trying to give. So I'm glad that he stood his ground, at least a bit. But I'm still not sure what message they are trying to send here. Aoi is just too manipulative and I don't see how she can 'win' in any way. She needs to be taught how to live her life as much as Tomozaki needs to improve.


I mean, that's sort of the point of the conversation in this episode, Tomozaki pointing out that Hinami isn't the perfect goddess she claims to be, and that just as much as she helps him, she needs help herself in finding out how to really live. So he's going to try and help her.


Yes, at this point, she needs more help than him.
Mar 29, 2021 7:36 AM
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Mich666 said:
I dunno.. whole their reconcilliant felt pretty awkward, he was so self-centred it was almost out of character (kinda hypocrital after what he said) and his "proof" was big naive way to proving the proof by proving that the proof exists (basically, he didn't prove anything and she was right telling him that).
Guess she didn't really want to lose their relationship afterall and what he said about not having a goal in her life was probably the only reason why she didn't turn around on spot and walked away. Cause honestly, outside of his big confidence he acted like textook case of rejected boyfriend wanting to get just one more chance before.

Kinda sad for Fuuka's role in all this. Yes, he opened to her and she did the same and they are probably closer than even him and Hinami but she telling him to go for Hinami after what he said was classic anime trope when the side-heroine selflessly steps down in favor of main girl and I pretty much hated it as whole scene was absolutely perfect moment to deepen their relationship even more.

7/10 for this season and I enjoyed it a lot, but there is big IF as we don't know if they will animate more cours than this.


The reason why Aoi agreed to what he was saying was because he forced her to accept her own logic; if SHE wasn't willing to abide by his theory the same way he was willing to abide by hers at the very beginning then she's admitting that she doesn't have the confidence to believe that her way of life is correct. She's too proud to accept that so she's going to let him try so that she can prove him wrong. It didn't look like she was "agreeing" with him, as much as humoring him.

Also, Fuuka didn't tell him to go for Hinami, she told him to treasure her. There's a difference, and that's because Tomozaki only likes Hinami as a friend.


Understood, but I think that they are hinting at romance potential with Hinami, which I hope will never come to fruition.
Mar 29, 2021 8:34 AM
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The story so good... Hope can get season 2... But the blue ray/dvd sale not promising... So hope the audience can but the blue ray to get more Chance for season 2
Mar 29, 2021 8:43 AM

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TheFirst half is about two people sitting and talking. The second half is about two people standing and talking. What a lame finale.
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Mar 29, 2021 10:08 AM
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Very dissapointing. Pretty much nothing happened and the anime could have ended in that "cliffhanger". Infact the whole anime is dissapointing so there's nothing new that we don't know.
Mar 29, 2021 4:43 PM

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This reminded me so much of Oregairu, i just love these character driven shows!

Thoroughly enjoyed witnessing the evolution of Fumiya , from being a total neet inside his own shell, to someone who wants to win at the game called life at all costs. Well, at first i was not really fond of Aoi pushing Fumiya to do all of those tasks right off the bat, but as the episodes went on i realized that at least he was managing to step out of his shell at his own pace and those tasks did help indeed. But these 2 final episodes, they were the peak of Fumiya's development as a character imo, he finally realized that he didn't want to act according to someone who told him to do this and that, he wanted to follow his own desires and not follow the rules by the book called Aoi. At the end he didn't deny following her tasks, but he managed to input his own condition: "I'll have a hybrid play style: skills plus true desires", atta boy!

8/10 guess for now we have to stay with an OVA, would love a 2nd season of this
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Mar 29, 2021 6:54 PM
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i just realized that this episode mainly just showing 2 scenes of 2 people talking, not as i expected. but it really gave tomozaki's character development. also that new character in the ending :O.

will we get another season? this anime is my favorite from this season. and i would give it 9/10.
Mar 29, 2021 7:34 PM
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Anime was enjoyable.

Only thing i didn't like was that the student presidential race took too many episodes to conclude other than that twas pretty good overall.
Mar 30, 2021 4:11 AM

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It'd be nice if something comes along to challenge or even smash Aoi's worldview, but I guess I'll never find out if that eventually happens. Honestly disappointed Tomozaki reached a middle ground with her, after the previous episode's events.

Show was okay.
Mar 30, 2021 6:54 AM

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I really like Tomozaki never abandoned his own personality at the end. Most shows of the same genre tend to mock characters like him or changes them completely. Even his "girlfriend" helped a lot at the end when I had no idea how they were going to use her in the plot. I liked this show more than I thought I would. 8/10 for the anime.
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Mar 30, 2021 2:51 PM

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We strongly need another season!
Some kind of "how to raise a boyfriend" anime. I really enjoyed it.
Really liked the OST, the animation, the plot...

We can apply the "tips and hints" of this show to our real nerdy and lonely ass lives.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:47 AM

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A quick guide to normie life. No concrete conclusion yet but its cool. Will be good to see more.
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Oh man, Aoi isn't in a good mood in the finale. But even so, I feel like Tomozaki still has a lot to thank for since meeting her.

The episode feels kinda rushed though. I never felt much connection between Tomozaki and Fuuka. But anyways, this show itself didn't really do a great job at relationship building imo. Only Tomozaki seems to have matured the most out of the main cast. I'm probably not going to miss this anime.


Could not agree more. For a show that took its time developing the characters for the most part, it sure did speed through that last episode. Works well as advertisement for the light novels though. We got to know the characters well enough to maybe want to see more in the source material - it left enough stuff in the air too.

NGL I was hoping he would end the whole assignment thing for good though and maybe she could just make suggestions to him as a friend.
Apr 1, 2021 2:25 AM

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Does anyone know where the anime left off in the manga?
I'm surprised no one asked.

Edit : I think they're not even close to where the anime left off...
There's only 17 chapters-- or at least that's what I've found.

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Apr 1, 2021 8:47 AM
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Does anyone know where the anime left off in the manga?
I'm surprised no one asked.

Edit : I think they're not even close to where the anime left off...
There's only 17 chapters-- or at least that's what I've found.


Read the LN instead. The manga in Japan has recently concluded the adaptation of LN volume 3, or the arc where the anime ended. It seems the mangaka took a break before continuing the adaptation, so you'll have to wait a very long time to even catch up if you're reading the manga.

The anime adapted volume 1-3 of LN with a few of alteration in volume 3, particularly the part where they introduced Narita Tsugumi (red headed girl from Tomozaki's part time job. Tomozaki is supposed to get a part time job before the summer trip, since he needed money for the trips itself and buying clothes, etc. They shuffled the order in the anime and Gumi/Tsugumi only appeared for a few seconds. In the LN Tomozaki tried to tease Tomozaki using the skill he learned just like how he teased Mizusawa.

The anime also omitted some parts of the summer trip, like how Tomozaki and gang tried to make Nakamura realize that his ex-gf/Shimano senpai is bad girl. That happened before the courage test and it helped Yuzu to get closer with Nakamura.

Well, basically I suggest you read volume 3 again (episode 9-12) and continue with volume 4-6. YenPress has translated up to volume 6.
Apr 1, 2021 1:20 PM

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Surprisingly decent series. Won't complain if it gets a sequel, but I won't be sad if doesn't and don't think I'll read the source material.
Apr 2, 2021 12:10 PM

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@AgehaYoru Thanks for the heads-up. I'll see if there's any light novels available online.

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Apr 2, 2021 11:33 PM

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so in the end it's just a bullshit anime show about real life, idk and also i hate Typical MC like this
Apr 3, 2021 3:50 PM

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oh alright! it was mediocre at its best...
good thing Hinami didn't became more of a manipulator b!tch!
4/5.
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Apr 4, 2021 10:29 AM

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It was a decent show about how to have a life lol. But it also felt like a cross between the Gamers! and Orgairu but without romance. The story was interesting and there was good character development.

The main character's determination to change himself is nice but he's still somewhat awkward to watch. While Hinami considers herself as the gamer who controls her character Fumiya with whom she wants to beat the game of life with but her methods are a little extreme. Maybe she has some sort of perfectionist syndrome? Anyways I just feel bad for Fuuka who is being experimented with because if her feelings are not reciprocated she will be heartbroken with Hinami to partially blame.

Hopefully this gets a S2.
Apr 6, 2021 7:31 AM
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I actually enjoy this than I thought. Well there might be some cringe moments but that's part of character development.
7/10. Season 2 please.
Apr 7, 2021 12:30 AM

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I'm guilty of having rolled my eyes a few times in the first episode but this was actually pretty good, hoping for a second season! Also says as much when main male MC is the true highlight of the whole show and not the girls
Apr 7, 2021 5:34 PM

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9/10, I could relate to Tomozaki in many ways, making this a very memorable show.

Tomozaki is the only person Aoi can really "be herself" to, so I can definitely see her developing feelings for him, making her change her ways in the future.

Also, the reason Aoi could never beat Tomozaki in Tackfam is because his love and passion is for the game, whilst she only wants the glory of beating him and being at the top.

Nanaami did the same to Aoi in track-- Nanami was never passionate about track, only to beat Aoi and now Aoi is doing the same to Tomozaki.
I'm pretty sure this is what Tomozaki is trying to explain to her.







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Feels bad for Kikuchi. No doubt Tomozaki will end up with Hinami in the end based on everything so far (especially with the first-mover advantage and all) unless the author goes for surprise ending where he either choose Kikuchi or none of them like some authors like to do to fire up discussions about who best girl is...
Apr 20, 2021 4:18 PM

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I thought the first season was decent, it started off iffy but it definitely grew on me. It felt a little "too realistic" at times but I guess that's where it's charm came from.

I feel like not a whole lot happened but that's probably tied to the idea that not much romance actually happened. I hope we get a second season but I was hearing stuff that it wasn't popular in Japan but not sales have happened yet, so here's hoping sales do well, so that a second season happens.

I gave this show a 8/10.

I am curious, how much of the light novel was adapted in this first season.
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I finally completed after dropping it. I was really bad - too superficial. I cringed at every reference they made throughout the anime emphasizing the importance superficial thing.

Though Episode 12 did made things better, tomozaki finally "maybe" grew a spine...He should had done that in the first episode this show would have been so much better.
Tomozaki is a definitely is flawed person
-No, not because he doesn't make up his hairs or puts make up,
-not because he is a game geek
-not because he doesn't have a social life.
Tomozaki is flawed because he got coxed into aoi's b.s that "life is a god-tier game" because of tomozaki weakness is game (that scene reminded me of NHK, how sato was duped by megumi by join pyramid scheme...lol)
Aoi Hinami is clearly dumb mary sue and who has no understanding of what life is supposed to be
Tomozaki doesn't require treatment to change himself. Clearly, not having a superficial lifestyle is not a disease. What tomozaki really require is self confidence in himself. (and to give Aoi address of a good psychotherapist)
This anime unfortunately delivered that message very poorly. Episode 12 tried to vaguely emphasis this. But unfortunately how this anime worships superficiality through its references makes that point very less deliverable or impactful.


Most of the times watching tomozaki-kun was like seeing a detailed version of the student council meeting from Snafu without any humor, taken as a serious context...lol
Plus most characters were bland for me (maybe except hinabi)

If I ignore the content, other things are pretty good (animation, OP, character design, artstyle etc were pretty good). I assume its a pretty good adaptation too (maybe?)
Overall, I guess I am too old from shows like tomozaki-kun
I did bump up my score from 5 to 6 (hey, at least they tried to reduce some superficiality in episode 12)

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Fumiya was the weakest link in this series, the guy was inconsistent until the very end. At times he can barely put together a few words, and then there are times when he spits out an idealistic 5 page speech without any flashcards like its nothing. Also, didn't like how he sidelined Fuuka there to go for Aoi. He has such strong synergy with Fuuka, that an ending with Aoi would put me off. I'd rather have a troll ending like for example Yuzu being serious that she likes someone else and that being Fumiya, would be hilarious to watch.

Overall was a fun watch-- minus all of the cringe moments like that one shouting scene. Am not sure what to make of that ending where it felt like they jump over a lot of content with the new job, hope that doesn't mean they do not plan to do another season.
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The anime did a very good job at showing Tomozaki's changes. He exudes confidence at later eps, and he no longer stumbles that much at his words. This is something that novel readers can't really see. Though I am slightly disappointed at some scenes getting cut, but it didn't really affect my enjoyment. Solid 8/10, I hope this will get 2nd season.
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i saw today the ova 2 its good. the bad its because in thiss eason there was a lot of good animes this anime not have so much popularity but for me its so good

i will try to read the novels. i think its so difficult second season
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