Seishun Buta Yarou wa Yumemiru Shoujo no Yume wo Minai Episode 1 Discussion

Mikura39 said:

Need to confirm: Did Sakura and Mai kissed? (If not, then I kinda knew it.)

Rimazu said:
Okay, I just went to the theater to see it

And wow, it was pretty insane !

Also thank -Stray for the explanation of the small parts I didn't get

I give it a good 9/10 !

-Stray said:

If you haven't read till the last part don't open the spoiler tag Im about to say.

-Stray said:

Mikura39 said:

Don't worry, I read your whole summary and spoilers from the LN.

-Stray said:

Mikura39 said:

That is fair. Yeah, I noticed that and that was when I changed my mind regarding her. Only a bit though. I need to see the movie for myself to give my proper opinion about Shouko.

Though I kinda wish that not all girls would fall in love with him. Understandable why they would, but I'm getting sick of it.

Sorry, it's just that I've seen so many shows where someone just cockblocks the couple's relationship and it just annoyed me. One of the worst examples of these is SAO, Dragon Crisis, Rakudai and a lot of harem anime.

I'll try my best to open my mind regarding Shouko and will watch the movie one day to give my proper thoughts.

Mikura39 said:
Oh yeah, I want to ask one more thing (technically 2). Though this sounds cruel but:
And please tell me how many times did Sakuta and Mai hugged in the movie. As well as the scenes where the hugs occurred in a spoiler box.

lnklo said:
As a light novel reader, pretty disappoint with this adaption.
The movie adapted both volume 6 and 7 in 90 minutes, you can just imagine 800 pages in such a short time will be a super fast paste movie.
Basically 1/3 contents from the source material had been cut out, the staff mainly focused in the main plot, but all the side stories and character developments had been reduce to minimum. Thus the movie itself might feel bland and cliche due to not enough character build up.

But because the source material is amazing, even though the directing sucks it still worth watching if you like the tv series adaption.

One thing that I really felt unfortunate tho is they cut out this part:

ZeroAXL said:
Still didn't know why he got scar

noah9999 said:
Just saw it in theatres! Like @Lelouch0202 ...

I've never really watched something quite like this Rascal saga... Between all of the timeline stuff, it confuses the hell out of me... The animation isn't all that beautiful and there is quite a bit of dialogue to digest...

But I really like to trust whats going on in it, just because I really feel like the characters are being so darn genuine. It feels intimate and keeps me engaged! With this saga, i truly suspend my disbelief and let it all soak in.. and I feel like I may miss some of the subtleties along the way, but i trust the narrative.

RealMTL said:
Just coming from the theaters myself. Everyone with me is still a little confused when it comes to the different plot points. A great movie but I feel it would be better for me to watch it on Blu ray so I can rewind the confusing bits.

Spaceship said:


Yep; I'm going to need to watch it at least once or twice more through before I can wrap my head around everything, especially in the 2nd half.

destructo22 said:
So was Shoko's illness caused by her puberty syndrome? Or vice versa?

destructo22 said:
So was Shoko's illness caused by her puberty syndrome? Or vice versa?

Kou_Keiki said:
Just saw this in the movie theater. Honestly was pretty confused by the ending...

Kenpls said:
Mai ended up starring in a movie about the illness that Shoko had, they used it to spread awareness about organ donation. Which led to Shoko appearing healthy and presumably received a heart from someone else.

tingy said:
I also came back from the theaters! Not related to the movie itself, but was anyone else's theater like 90% males? Lol.

The characters are such a pleasure to watch, I love the whole cast. For example, when Sakuta's friends worry about him, it feels genuine. Futaba continued to show concern for Sakuta's well-being, and Kunimi also coming to get him after seeing that Sakuta had been in pictures relating to Mai.

I'm surprised to hear the source material is still continuing. I thought this movie/arc wrapped up everything really well. But with the adolescence syndrome, there's a lot more that could be explored, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I would like to see a Kunimi arc :) I'm definitely down for a second season if it ever happens!

tingy said:
I also came back from the theaters! Not related to the movie itself, but was anyone else's theater like 90% males? Lol.

Black_Sheep97 said:
so you're saying that 2/3 of the novel is bland and cliched. Great source material them huh?

Cutting out content isn't bad direction, it's something that is needed to make this adaptation work and they did a great job of creating a coherent story while still cutting out stuff. The stuff that was in the movie was still interesting and well done, just because it didn't follow the source properly doesn't mean as an adaptation it can't be amazing. People who are source material readers and the only critism that they offer for the adaptation is that it didn't follow the source material should be banned from the discussion about the adaptation.

zamandzoe said:
Saw this last night, but was too tired to post here.

First of all - Absolutely packed theater! Literally every seat that wasn't directly in front of the screen was taken. Good to see the movie doing well by anime movie standards. I wouldn't be surprised if this two-day run got an extension.
I also saw a relatively high number of teenagers in the audience, both alone and with parents. Good to see honestly.

MrAnthrope said:
But in the end, regardless of whatever sacrifices are made we end up practically right where we started.

Spaceship said:


Great to hear! My theater was not too full; I'd say 1/4 full maybe, and if you visualize in your head the popular concept of an "anime fan," that's who the majority of the folks were...



Except for the fact that Sakuta and Mai's relationship made huge strides over the course of the film.

That was a criticism frequently leveled at the series by folks who wanted the focus of the entire run to be on Sakuta and Mai, not understanding that their relationship grew because of the focus on the other characters, not in spite of it. The movie adopts the same formula. They both had to make critical decisions, and really showed each other how much they cared. Mai's scene on the train platform was probably the highlight of the movie for me.

MrAnthrope said:


Those moments were amazing and I'm very glad to have seen them and you're 100 percent right that their relationship did grow. They literally each died for the other. And then they made it so NONE OF THAT EVER HAPPENED. That timeline is gone. So that Sakuta and Mai who had Shoko's puberty syndrome catalyze their relationship to new heights are gone. The Sakuta and Mai at the end of the film aren't much different than the ones that went on a fifteen-minute date on Mai's birthday.

MrAnthrope said:


I have never read the source material but agree that the movie felt a bit bland and cliche. Perhaps I'm too cynical and simply cannot accept a perfect happy ending, but I think that the movie was missing a really anything really poignant in it. There are sad parts, yes. But in the end, regardless of whatever sacrifices are made we end up practically right where we started. In spite of the fact that the characters themselves tell us of the huge changes that could come about because of the final alteration, through convenient contrivances such as dreams and visions, the timeline remains whole. And then, the one (not very sad because we don't really get to know her that well because movies are short) loss that Shoko will be forgotten by our characters, is completely undone because Sakuta gets to remember because... feelings, I guess? It just seems that there ended up being no consequences for anyone's real sacrifices or attempted sacrifices which cheapens the act as a whole. And perhaps I should've seen this coming because of the title, but it's like when you watch anything and all this dramatic stuff happens and it's moving and sad and wonderful and then in the end the protagonist wakes up because it was all a dream.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the series, I will eagerly await an announcement of the 2nd season, but this movie, inspite of being part of Canon and supposed to move the show along, feels like total filler.

tingy said:
I also came back from the theaters! Not related to the movie itself, but was anyone else's theater like 90% males? Lol.

Anyways, I really enjoyed the movie. But the atmosphere was definitely heavy the majority of the time, and I cried for like a third of the movie. Even so, there were definitely some humorous moments just like the TV series, which I'm very glad for. I have to agree with Lelouch0202 on that it's the characters that carry the story, allowing me to overlook the plot conveniences. The characters are such a pleasure to watch, I love the whole cast. For example, when Sakuta's friends worry about him, it feels genuine. Futaba continued to show concern for Sakuta's well-being, and Kunimi also coming to get him after seeing that Sakuta had been in pictures relating to Mai.

It was a very emotional movie, and I have even more respect for Sakuta. He really had to make painful decisions, and it must've been heart-wrenching to realize over and over again that there's nothing you can do (but well, we know that he was able to do something). Worst of all, each time he figured out that Shouko was hiding something or knew about everything, you can tell all sorts of emotions went over him in those moments. It must've made him feel that everything he agonized over and the decisions he made was never going to work, Shouko would've made sure that he didn't for her. Despite all the pain he went through, I respect him because he made me realize something in this movie. I'm a caretaker to a sick family member, but it's been really tough battling with my emotions. While Sakuta wasn't one, he cared so much about Shouko, and visited her everyday to the best of his ability. That's really amazing to me. It makes me want to improve myself, to do better. Tbh it could've been any self-sacrificing and caring character, but I don't think I'd feel any other way about this character even if I couldn't relate to him. And ofc, shout-out to Mai, Shouko, and Futaba for all the pain they had to endure in this movie. I'm glad it was a happy ending, although why did I even doubt that wouldn't happen? Due to quantum entanglement (probably, as that's the explanation for almost everything here), Sakuta and Mai were still able to get together. Sakuta also remembered Shouko :')

I also feel like the word "dream" in the title is even more relevant now.


That was my only question at the end of the movie, I'm glad someone answered this! Thank you!

I'm surprised to hear the source material is still continuing. I thought this movie/arc wrapped up everything really well. But with the adolescence syndrome, there's a lot more that could be explored, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I would like to see a Kunimi arc :) I'm definitely down for a second season if it ever happens!

destructo22 said:
Another question: what triggered the new future? Was it someting Sakuta did?

RealMTL said:
I think that might have been your area. In my theater I saw quite a few females. Most of them looked like they had to drag their boyfriends to the theater (which was very funny to watch).

Spaceship said:

To be fair, from what I've seen it isn't all that different from the demographic proportions for Japanese audiences for these kinds of shows...

LoomyTheBrew said:

This was very well said, I echo a lot of your sentiments. I definitely choked up during this movie.

Also when I go see anime movies, it's usually almost all guys. The only anime movies that I've been to where it was about even was the My Hero Academia movie and Maquia.

tingy said:

What I got out of it was that at first, Sakuta was planning to change the past. BUT his last talk with Shouko leads me to believe that Shouko was the one who went and changed the past, since she told him that although she was thankful for everything, she didn't want to be the source of Sakuta's agony, thus, she will make sure that Sakuta doesn't meet her.