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Feb 2, 12:34 PM
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I will just come out and say it, episode 5 looked like ass.

I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on the MASSIVE drop in animation quality or not, but the visuals went from "decent enough" to complete dog shit.

It was (almost) world end's harem level of bad animation.

And the characters were pretty much out of model in every damn frame, they looked off more often than they looked right.


So, do we think that was a one time thing, or is every episode going to be dropping in quality?
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Feb 2, 12:43 PM
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Really? I personally didn’t notice anything? But if there was a animation drop I mean it might have just been cause there wasn’t anything major happening that episode in terms of fights.

The episode was just introducing the last of the 3 main girls
Feb 2, 12:43 PM
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but the story is in place right? ( im sorry i didnt saw the new episode)
Feb 2, 12:45 PM
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I think show has looked pretty jank since the beginning. As long as the novelty of the premise doesn't wear thin, no one will care.
Feb 2, 12:52 PM
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Really? I personally didn’t notice anything? But if there was a animation drop I mean it might have just been cause there wasn’t anything major happening that episode in terms of fights.

The episode was just introducing the last of the 3 main girls
@Phantom_373 frankly I'm not too worried about the fights, but even the ecchi scenes looked really jank in comparison to the earlier episodes,

@Fail_Man_X It never looked incredible or anything but episodes 1-4 looked fine with some jank here and there, episode 5 was pure jank with one or two ok shots here and there.


It went from 4 or 5/10 visuals to 2/10 visuals.

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Feb 2, 12:54 PM
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but the story is in place right? ( im sorry i didnt saw the new episode)
@sturmikun Yeah It is, but I think even the ecchi segments were less... (how do I put this without sounding like COMPLETE degenerate)..... they were less enjoyable... yeah that's the word.
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Feb 2, 1:05 PM
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I had heard that this studio has a bad rep, but the first few episodes just made it feel like any other “who cares” kinda studio. I don’t think this most recent episode looked significantly worse, but there was a noticeable dip. I’ll hold out at least until next episode, but I might drop it after that. I need less shows to watch this season anyway.
Feb 2, 1:06 PM
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Didn't notice any such massive quality drop, sounds like some high level nitpicking.
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Feb 2, 1:22 PM
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Didn't notice any such massive quality drop, sounds like some high level nitpicking.
@Zarutaku It really wasn't. I normally don't even notice out of model characters unless like I said, they are out of model more often than they aren't.


Maybe I am the exception for paying attention, but there was an absurd amount of cut corners in episode 5.

I could do a full break down to prove it's far more than just a nit pick.... but I'm not sure If I want to spend an hour writing an analysis piece of a random episode of a seasonal ecchi show just for the sake of the argument lol
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Feb 2, 1:38 PM

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I noticed a huge drop compared to the earlier episodes. Stiff animation and a lot of off model frames especially on Kiwi.
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Feb 2, 1:53 PM
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maybe its because im old and i need new glasses but i didnt notice a huge drop in quality
or maybe its because i dont really care about (bad) animation quality as long as its fun and i really dont get how people get so hung up on it
Feb 2, 2:12 PM
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This just looks like the standard since episode 2 so far to me? This has been way way better than I expected from this studio lol. I couldn't say why you didn't enjoy the scenes, except maybe the fact that they were to short (especially the first one imo) to obviously be "enjoyed" if that is what you mean. There is also the possibility the initial comedy of the scene or the fetish itself turned you off from it, IDK. Calling it quality but still enjoying stuff like episode 2/4 would be a little too inconsistent so I would look for something else to blame though.
Feb 2, 2:31 PM
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I didnt notice anything
Feb 2, 8:21 PM
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apart from some potato Utena frames, the overall animation was fine for what the anime proposes
Feb 2, 8:49 PM
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I thought I was the only one who noticed it
Feb 2, 8:55 PM

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I noticed the drop in animation, but that's not surprising, it must have been very difficult to animate this episode with so many things going on at once.

Feb 2, 10:47 PM
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@Zarutaku It really wasn't. I normally don't even notice out of model characters unless like I said, they are out of model more often than they aren't.


Maybe I am the exception for paying attention, but there was an absurd amount of cut corners in episode 5.

I could do a full break down to prove it's far more than just a nit pick.... but I'm not sure If I want to spend an hour writing an analysis piece of a random episode of a seasonal ecchi show just for the sake of the argument lol
@APolygons2 You are right. The characters were off-model a heap in this episode. It is also not something I notice a lot, with the exception being one of the last few episodes of The Angel Next Door last year which was similar to this episode where I couldn't stop noticing it.

People really need to be more specific though and actually mention the characters being off model. Saying the animation is bad/worse is misleading because animation really refers to the movement (although people tend to use it for combined artwork/animation). You are the only person I've actually seen specifically mention the characters being off model when complaining about this episode.

That said, I wouldn't be too worried yet. Next episode will be a big one so we'll see if they are just allocating a limited budget across episodes in an appropriate way. It seems like it because episodes 1 and 3 have been best in this regard, and I would say they are the two that deserved the most care so far.
Feb 2, 10:50 PM

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The biggest problem is from now on,
for the studio to get away with budget cutting. We saw an example of how that would play out in chapter 8-episode 4.
Feb 3, 12:43 AM
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making up shit again lol
Feb 3, 1:26 AM
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Didn't notice any such massive quality drop, sounds like some high level nitpicking.
@Zarutaku I didn't notice anything. It's not like this turned into "My Sister, My Writer" all of the sudden, lol
Feb 3, 1:41 AM

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yep, I do hope they're gonna improve the quality of next episode, quite disappointed cuz introduce Nero Alice get this bad frames, tho
Feb 3, 1:51 AM

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making up shit again lol
@Saimatsu_Fan

It's ok if you didn't notice the dip, but I'm not "making it up" lmao

What possible motivation would I even have to do that?
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Feb 3, 2:57 AM

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I didn't notice anything. I think it's your non-existent superpower that allows you to see things others don't.
Feb 3, 3:14 AM
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APolygons2 said:
I will just come out and say it, episode 5 looked like ass.

I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on the MASSIVE drop in animation quality or not, but the visuals went from "decent enough" to complete dog shit.

It was (almost) world end's harem level of bad animation.

And the characters were pretty much out of model in every damn frame, they looked off more often than they looked right.


So, do we think that was a one time thing, or is every episode going to be dropping in quality?

I was so lost in watching their actions that i didn't notice animation. I mean episode 5 was the most ecchi in all so how would I have noticed animation
Feb 3, 6:42 AM
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I know what you’re talking about because I noticed it too. Some characters looked off-model and the animation isn’t as good compared to the earlier episodes. Hopefully this is just a one time thing because I still have high hopes for the later episodes.
Feb 3, 9:48 AM
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was defo worse, not anything too bad but i really hope they dont half ass the rest of it
Feb 3, 1:01 PM
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APolygons2 said:
I will just come out and say it, episode 5 looked like ass.

I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on the MASSIVE drop in animation quality or not, but the visuals went from "decent enough" to complete dog shit.

It was (almost) world end's harem level of bad animation.

And the characters were pretty much out of model in every damn frame, they looked off more often than they looked right.


So, do we think that was a one time thing, or is every episode going to be dropping in quality?

I didn't find it bad though
Feb 3, 1:23 PM

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I didn't notice anything. I think it's your non-existent superpower that allows you to see things others don't.
@Rad_Scientist I'm not the only one.

it does seem like a LOT of people DIDN'T notice, but I am far from only ons who did.

even in this very thread about 1/3 of them noticed what i was talking about.

I can pull up examples, but just "proving you wrong" isn't a big enough motivation.
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Feb 3, 3:19 PM
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I had only one problem with animation in episode 2 with Utena and Azul "fight" scene. It really looked like quality drop after the very good first episode. About the rest, I don't know. Episodes 3,4 and 5th seemed rather normal to me. No drop in quality, even with Kiwi's character design. We shall see in the next, probably one of the most iconic episode in Season 1. If they will manage to capture Utena's seriousness I shall not complain at all.
Feb 3, 5:28 PM
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APolygons2 said:
I will just come out and say it, episode 5 looked like ass.

I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on the MASSIVE drop in animation quality or not, but the visuals went from "decent enough" to complete dog shit.

It was (almost) world end's harem level of bad animation.

And the characters were pretty much out of model in every damn frame, they looked off more often than they looked right.


So, do we think that was a one time thing, or is every episode going to be dropping in quality?

I also noticed that the animations have gotten worse, but honestly I don't want to focus on that too much... yes is true that this ep is nothing compared to the first one, but personally i don't like to focus on the animation (especially if it's not that bad, in my opinion). The plot of this anime really got me and i want to know how it goes. Also it makes me laugh
Feb 4, 12:16 AM

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Every season in every show someone concern trolls that animation quality is slipping, without fail.
Feb 4, 1:17 AM

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Every season in every show someone concern trolls that animation quality is slipping, without fail.
@NoviSun You shouldn't just call anyone you don't agree with a troll.

It will loose its meaning, and its too useful of a word in the internet days for us to afford loosing it!
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Feb 5, 1:33 AM
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tbh who cares about animation. as long the story is interesting enough i don't mind. probably it was because ep 5 was focused more on the new character introduction more than actual combat
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I thought I was watching a cheap knock off I was like wtf happened.


Feb 7, 8:27 AM

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@NoviSun You shouldn't just call anyone you don't agree with a troll.

It will loose its meaning, and its too useful of a word in the internet days for us to afford loosing it!
@APolygons2 Nice way to circumvent the issue.
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Every season in every show someone concern trolls that animation quality is slipping, without fail.
@NoviSun you'd imagine someone who considers themselves qualified to comment on such things definitively would also be aware of all the pressures many animation studios work under and how they relax and tighten their quality standards to meet deadlines and deliver the best quality where it has the most impact.

I guess shouting "dog shit" and making spurious connections to other shows is easier than evaluating where a studio is actually putting their effort in and recognising that not every studio gets to do "Unlimited Budget Works"

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Feb 8, 9:09 AM

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@NoviSun you'd imagine someone who considers themselves qualified to comment on such things definitively would also be aware of all the pressures many animation studios work under and how they relax and tighten their quality standards to meet deadlines and deliver the best quality where it has the most impact.

I guess shouting "dog shit" and making spurious connections to other shows is easier than evaluating where a studio is actually putting their effort in and recognising that not every studio gets to do "Unlimited Budget Works"

@borderliner

I was pointing out an issue, not blaming the studio for where it came from. A dip is a dip, It's not like I delved into the reasons and claimed the animators were "lazy", that would justify your comment. lack of budget or overworked employees doesn't erase the problems, it just means those are the reasons for the problems existing.

Besides....

The newest episode looked normal again, so I am glad to say it probably was a "one bad episode" thing.

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