86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
| S1 was mystery and relationship building but 2 was more many thing more |
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addie1998 said: I said random army.Wym random enemy? They were always fighting the same enemy, as for the anime they're not really supposed to die the anime just did that which I hated because they want you to buy the light novels... |
| Luffy is a little overated. |
| Maybe a re-watch would bring them closer together, but right now for me, Part 2 eclipses Part 1 hard |
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| the last 2 episodes alone makes it better than the whole first season wym |
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| Both parts are alright. I prefer the first for personal reasons and I was hyping it since its announcement. |
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Cudlyyy said: BitChilly said: I understand to me it just didn't make sense how they almost died then all of a sudden are fine and they go to fight for a new army. I know this move is a set up for future volumes but those future don't really need to happen since the end of part 1 would've been a good conclusion to the light novel and or anime. Just my opinion on it.I disagree with this, part 2 has a different focus compared to part 1. Part 2 is more focused on our characters, namely Shin as he struggles to find a purpose to continue fighting. The Special Recon Mission they took in the end was an act by the Republic to kill off the remaining veterans but it didn't, they survived because they were rescued by the Federacy (More details are shown in volume 2). The part where you mention the random army, they enlisted into the Officers program because the group didn't feel satisfied living in peace inside the Federacy and chose to enlist due to their pride being what is left for them. Also worldbuilding, showing that there's other countries beyond the Republic. It sets the stage for future volumes in the LN as the war progresses and develops for both the Legion and Humanity. This is just my personal opinion though, you can disagree or agree with whatever I said. I respect your opinion. When i watched it for the first time I also was a bit lost with that sudden change. Source material was inferior to anime, but it was clear with what happened on the battlefield before they were transported to Giad. Anime made it a bit too subtle. In LN it makes much more sense. |
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| Incredibly so, yes, the second season (part) was worse than the first one, and that is surprising because the first season was already pretty bad. |
| Thought it was a bit better. I liked that it's focused more on Nouzen + the new characters were interesting |
| The lack of Lena is absolutely infuriating in every conceivable way. Agreed. Lena deficit is alone disgraceful. I've still yet to finish this second season/second cour of the first season since around a year and a half ago now when it concluded and am back here because I've been thinking about watching the last several episodes from this and a few other shows I've had hanging in my Currently Watching list since late 2021 to early 2022. But I'll never forgive how they delivered such a Lena-deprived set of episodes. |
WatchTillTandavaAug 26, 2023 8:47 AM
| Nope. I think exactly the opposite: it was way, way better than the first one. Better storytelling, direction, animtion, and less scenes with Lena. |
| Agree. I'm disappointed with part 2. If I knew about the existence of frederica and the fact she is so annoying I'd have not even bothered watching this. Also, this arc seems so dull. Nothing that interesting compared to the action in part 1. The only new character that had some potential IMO was Eugene. I was also very confused with all this republic, federation thing. I don't think they explained that well. It felt rushed. The pace of several episodes was very slow as well. I had to force myself to keep watching some of frederica's monologues and tantrums. |
| Agree, I think a lot of it is vibes based but the fairytale ending of part 2 did nothing for me but the bittersweet ending of part 1 hit me like a truck. |
| I really wanted to like this part. The worldbuilding elements from part 1 were clunky and didn't make a ton of sense, but the characters had heart and brought it together. This just felt so bland comparatively. The worldbuilding falls apart immediately, so many elements from season 1 were never explored (though I understand there is a continuation in the light novels), and they left out what could have been one of the most compelling portions of the series. The actions taken by Bloody Regina in the Magnolia Empire left so much to be desired. Why the name? How did she get the 86 to follow her to death? What was the final battle in the streets like? What is the fallout regionally for what happened? What happened to the chain of command that allowed her to be a foreign diplomat of sorts? I get that this series was never about any of this, really. It was about the interpersonal character moments. What bothers me is that these elements get brought up as concerns or portions of the story that are important, and then never touched on again. Also, this is a personal issue, but I found the final four episodes so frustrating. It really pushed the in-your-face nature of the situation too hard and I found myself struggling to care. I just couldn't bring myself to be invested in the young girl and her knight. It didn't help that the original writers just don't know how to write children accurately, and her vague backstory made her nature very confusing. I found it so disappointing. |
N3rdieBirdieJan 24, 8:06 PM
| I agree with you. S1 is a lot better than season 2, just feels more interesting. |
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Reply to Detector1977
Both a great and while different they compliment eachother well. I want more!
| @Detector1977 I want less of Frederica if possible. God damn it does she ruin an otherwise perfect show. |
| I'm at episode 5 and totally agree with title (not reading spoilers here until finishing the episodes) - Issue #1: Frederica, the annoying prodigy child totally out of place, that achieved the incredible feat of being worse than Lena. Her backstory with Kiri is weak and asspulled, she is always destroying the serious tone that the situations should have. Oh come on, right now in episode 5 the Legion did an attack that killed dozens of thousands of their companions! And 1 minute later, there is Frederica being tsundere and comic relief WTF. All the tension of 1st season is gone. Issue #2: The script is terrible now. How the Fall of the Republic moth****ers was OFFSCREEN!? Come on everyone was rooting for the Legion to kill all of that nazi racists, and the anime sumarized that in 10 seconds lol. Also, if in the Season 1 the plot was: - "Republic Nazis do genocide against the 86 minorites sending them to death in battle", now it is - "Annoying Federation torture the 86ers asking them, all the f* time, to not go to war, and just let thousands of Eugenes to die" LOL I hope the last episodes can save this season, but i can't see a way out of this mess. |
Rob7Apr 30, 8:52 PM
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