That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime
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| This was going to be good until that bitch brought up that stupid idea. Reviving my ass don’t kill them in the first place, ah I’m so pissed off this was going to be such a good show… and now he plans to kill 20k humans without second thought. |
| Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. |
| Rimuru want to become a Demon King by killing merely 10000 human soul at least, hmm does this mean that Rimuru is telling us that "The end justifies the means" ? That's a philosophy of a tyrant. |
NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. That is a good point, "suspense again!!!" won't happen. |
Nazgool said: Rimuru want to become a Demon King by killing merely 10000 human soul at least, hmm does this mean that Rimuru is telling us that "The end justifies the means" ? That's a philosophy of a tyrant. its not bad thing hes planning cause they are W8 there to wipe out the rest of the town, a genocide, this kingdom is attempting genocide so serves then right if he kills 10k of them You have doubts about sacrificing some lives to bring back others, but the thing is, Rimuru would have to kill them anyways. You have to remember that the army is coming to attack Tempest. The Falmuth Kingdom has started a war, and if the army is not killed, they will attack and destroy Tempest. If they're going to be killed anyways, he might as well use their deaths to bring back his own people so when Nazis (and they are so like Nazis) come to wipe ur country out u say to ur president and army run if u kill them ur bad guys? well that's how u sound like if u can find and wipe out enemy camp before they attack again its a win for u and part of war NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. Nazgool said: NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. That is a good point, "suspense again!!!" won't happen. 3% thing changes once hes demon lord and sage counted to that the 3% in hes current state |
Sugram22Jun 17, 2022 12:58 PM
Sugram22 said: its not bad thing hes planning cause they are W8 there to wipe out the rest of the town, a genocide, this kingdom is attempting genocide so serves then right if he kills 10k of them You have doubts about sacrificing some lives to bring back others, but the thing is, Rimuru would have to kill them anyways. You have to remember that the army is coming to attack Tempest. The Falmuth Kingdom has started a war, and if the army is not killed, they will attack and destroy Tempest. If they're going to be killed anyways, he might as well use their deaths to bring back his own people so when Nazis (and they are so like Nazis) come to wipe ur country out u say to ur president and army run if u kill them ur bad guys? well that's how u sound like I am not of those whom you might consider: "Don't declare war, declare love". Most of the times blood should be washed by blood and steel is faced by steel. It is war after all, and you are defending your rights at the highest level. The amount of the attackers that would be killed won't be defined this way, maybe you might massacre the whole army just to stop them and furthermore Tempest nation might attack that nation (I don't remember the name), if Tempest sensed that they won't stop and attack again or what whatever might be. On the other hand killing let's say 500 might stop their attack and make them surrender. In this way (killing 10000 to be become a demon lord) Rimuru's Intention was not defending his country, it is the will too have an overwhelming power and it is not a bad thing, to be honest it is the right thing to think about and put it at the highest level of your duties and plans, but not in this way. Thanks for the quote, much appreciate it. And to tell you the truth, my country was in war and still, so I have been through a lot of these situations, By this "The end justifies the means", sectarians ruling us, killing us, stealing us, and doing every horrible act you might think of. Wisdom, prudence, and insight is a key factor in war. |
Nazgool said: Sugram22 said: its not bad thing hes planning cause they are W8 there to wipe out the rest of the town, a genocide, this kingdom is attempting genocide so serves then right if he kills 10k of them You have doubts about sacrificing some lives to bring back others, but the thing is, Rimuru would have to kill them anyways. You have to remember that the army is coming to attack Tempest. The Falmuth Kingdom has started a war, and if the army is not killed, they will attack and destroy Tempest. If they're going to be killed anyways, he might as well use their deaths to bring back his own people so when Nazis (and they are so like Nazis) come to wipe ur country out u say to ur president and army run if u kill them ur bad guys? well that's how u sound like In this way (killing 10000 to be become a demon lord) Rimuru's Intention was not defending his country, it is the will too have an overwhelming power and it is not a bad thing, to be honest it is the right thing to think about and put it at the highest level of your duties and plans, but not in this way. Intention don't matter cause fact is he would have had to kill then anyway (cause they were on their way to wipe out the remaining Tempest ppl) so why not use their deaths to save ur ppl? if Eren would have not told that story he would have still done same thing, wiped out a lot of their forces camped outside then city cause they were preparing for final assault so hes Intention don't matter, Eren just made him wiping their camp out count for something more, something useful he will kill humans that are coming to genocide them so its justified so ur saying he should let this Nazis genocide them? sarcasm its counter attack, attack them before they attack u, so them coming is convenient for him i guess u don't pay attention enough |
Sugram22Mar 18, 2023 6:29 AM
Sugram22 said: Nazgool said: Rimuru want to become a Demon King by killing merely 10000 human soul at least, hmm does this mean that Rimuru is telling us that "The end justifies the means" ? That's a philosophy of a tyrant. its not bad thing hes planning cause they are W8 there to wipe out the rest of the town, a genocide, this kingdom is attempting genocide so serves then right if he kills 10k of them You have doubts about sacrificing some lives to bring back others, but the thing is, Rimuru would have to kill them anyways. You have to remember that the army is coming to attack Tempest. The Falmuth Kingdom has started a war, and if the army is not killed, they will attack and destroy Tempest. If they're going to be killed anyways, he might as well use their deaths to bring back his own people so when Nazis (and they are so like Nazis) come to wipe ur country out u say to ur president and army run if u kill them ur bad guys? well that's how u sound like if u can find and wipe out enemy camp before they attack again its a win for u and part of war NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. 3% thing changes once hes demon lord and sage counted to that the 3% in hes current state Then why bring up the percentage in the first place, if it is not going to be acurate? Clearly it was meant to raise the stakes/create suspense/show the massive odds they have to fight against. Which, and that was my main argument, was already a mute point at that stage by merely uttering the word "resurrection". That was a massive suspense killer, because they sure as hell weren´t going to throw in a massive curve ball and just have the plan fail. Of course everyone was gonna come back at that point then. That is my main gripe in that episode. |
NekoMikoBismarckJun 18, 2022 12:07 PM
NekoMikoBismarck said: Sugram22 said: its not bad thing hes planning cause they are W8 there to wipe out the rest of the town, a genocide, this kingdom is attempting genocide so serves then right if he kills 10k of them You have doubts about sacrificing some lives to bring back others, but the thing is, Rimuru would have to kill them anyways. You have to remember that the army is coming to attack Tempest. The Falmuth Kingdom has started a war, and if the army is not killed, they will attack and destroy Tempest. If they're going to be killed anyways, he might as well use their deaths to bring back his own people so when Nazis (and they are so like Nazis) come to wipe ur country out u say to ur president and army run if u kill them ur bad guys? well that's how u sound like if u can find and wipe out enemy camp before they attack again its a win for u and part of war 3% thing changes once hes demon lord and sage counted to that the 3% in hes current state Then why bring up the percentage in the first place, if it is not going to be acurate? Clearly it was meant to raise the stakes/create suspense/show the massive odds they have to fight against. Which, and that was my main point, was already a mute point at that stage by merely uttering the word "resurrection". That was a massive suspense killer, because they sure as hell weren´t going to throw in a massive curb ball and just have the plan fail. Of course everyone was gonna come back at that point then. That is my main gripe in that episode. and it did raise the stakes/create suspense/show cause u thought 3% is legit but it was calculated as hes current state before becoming demon lord and after becoming demon lord it became 100% |
Sugram22Jun 18, 2022 12:11 PM
Sugram22 said: NekoMikoBismarck said: Then why bring up the percentage in the first place, if it is not going to be acurate? Clearly it was meant to raise the stakes/create suspense/show the massive odds they have to fight against. Which, and that was my main point, was already a mute point at that stage by merely uttering the word "resurrection". That was a massive suspense killer, because they sure as hell weren´t going to throw in a massive curb ball and just have the plan fail. Of course everyone was gonna come back at that point then. That is my main gripe in that episode. and it did raise the stakes/create suspense/show cause u thought 3% is legit but it was calculated as hes current state before becoming demon lord and after becoming demon lord it became 100% Mate, I didn´t think the 3% were legit in the first place, that´s my point. It was over for me when they brought the idea of resurrection into play. This killed any possible chance of creating suspese, it was done at that point. The chance of the resurrection happening was already at a 100 % when the word was merely uttered. I don´t know how else to explain it. |
NekoMikoBismarckJun 19, 2022 11:46 AM
| So the full potion that before were too OP, able to heal everything, don't actually heal everything. What's the point on killing a character and then "wait we can revive them, it is a 3 percent chance, but we can try. Let's see if 3% of all dead will be revived or if everyone will be resurrected, which would be bs. |
| what a rollercoaster of an episode. never felt happier at the thought of someone killing tens of thousands of people. based rimuru. kill every last one of those filmuth fuckers. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| Attacking Tempest, murdering his people, the fairy tale on Milim (I guess its her at least), the fresh human soldiers that allow Rimuru become a demon lord so he can revive Shion and also the other people, I see it's all coming together. |
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NekoMikoBismarck said: some ppl complain about resection but as she said it works only cause of the barrier, but will there always be barrier around when ppl die? ofc not so in future ppl may die cause no resurrection chance Sugram22 said: and it did raise the stakes/create suspense/show cause u thought 3% is legit but it was calculated as hes current state before becoming demon lord and after becoming demon lord it became 100% Mate, I didn´t think the 3% were legit in the first place, that´s my point. It was over for me when they brought the idea of resurrection into play. This killed any possible chance of creating suspese, it was done at that point. The chance of the resurrection happening was already at a 100 % when the word was merely uttered. I don´t know how else to explain it. |
Sugram22 said: So the supposed 3% chance was even lower when you factor in the barrier? Oh my, how dramatically convenient (or maybe that was already factored in, doesn´t really matter though). I lost faith that any character that is somewhat close to the mc is gonna die. If the writer can´t get rid of a character that was pretty much expendable in the first place, why should I expect any other possible and more impactful deaths in the future? I certainly lost interest to find out atm.NekoMikoBismarck said: some ppl complain about resection but as she said it works only cause of the barrier, but will there always be barrier around when ppl die? ofc not so in future ppl may die cause no resurrection chance Mate, I didn´t think the 3% were legit in the first place, that´s my point. It was over for me when they brought the idea of resurrection into play. This killed any possible chance of creating suspese, it was done at that point. The chance of the resurrection happening was already at a 100 % when the word was merely uttered. I don´t know how else to explain it. |
NekoMikoBismarck said: 3% was before becoming demon lord, grate sage was incapable of calculating how large % will be when hes demon lord, as demon lord it was i thing 97%, without barrier its zeroSugram22 said: So the supposed 3% chance was even lower when you factor in the barrier? Oh my, how dramatically convenient (or maybe that was already factored in, doesn´t really matter though). I lost faith that any character that is somewhat close to the mc is gonna die. If the writer can´t get rid of a character that was pretty much expendable in the first place, why should I expect any other possible and more impactful deaths in the future? I certainly lost interest to find out atm.some ppl complain about resection but as she said it works only cause of the barrier, but will there always be barrier around when ppl die? ofc not so in future ppl may die cause no resurrection chance |
Sugram22 said: NekoMikoBismarck said: 3% was before becoming demon lord, grate sage was incapable of calculating how large % will be when hes demon lord, as demon lord it was i thing 97%, without barrier its zeroSo the supposed 3% chance was even lower when you factor in the barrier? Oh my, how dramatically convenient (or maybe that was already factored in, doesn´t really matter though). I lost faith that any character that is somewhat close to the mc is gonna die. If the writer can´t get rid of a character that was pretty much expendable in the first place, why should I expect any other possible and more impactful deaths in the future? I certainly lost interest to find out atm. Ok, perhaps we can stop discussing the theoretical possibility of a resurrection happening in a fantasy anime where the author can just make up rules as he goes, because that wasn´t the main issue in the first place. It could have been 0,03 % instead of 3% or your chances at hitting the mega millions in the lottery. The main issue is the resurrection itself. If you trivialize death to such a degree that we can´t even entertain the thought of a fairly minor side character staying dead for more than an episode before you immediately bring up the possibility of bringing them back, then you´ve fucked it. Sorry, it is like I said from the start, the moment the word “resurrection” was uttered, it was a done deal. Unless you are straight from the womb, I can´t see anybody not see this coming from a mile away. No amount of bullshit explanations on how low the chances of the plan succeeding was going to change the fact that everybody was gonna come back to life at that point. Which makes any possible investment how mc and friends are going to fare in future battles really difficult to say the least. That is what angered me so much about this episode, full stop. |
| I was wondering if they would actually kill Shion off like that, but of course they won't. This isn't Shingeki no Kyojin or Game of Thrones where main characters are actually in danger. That whole resurrection thing seems like an asspull though, I would have preferred if Shion simply did not die and the other gobbos are gone. If they just all survive anyway, this attack loses a lot of its impact. |
Raizel said: humans that are coming to genocide them so its justified This was going to be good until that bitch brought up that stupid idea. Reviving my ass don’t kill them in the first place, ah I’m so pissed off this was going to be such a good show… and now he plans to kill 20k humans without second thought. its counter attack, attack them before they attack u, so them coming is convenient for him still is awesome show |
Sugram22Mar 18, 2023 6:18 AM
NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. resurrection that only works if ppl die under the barrier so in most cases the resurrection is useless its all build up the greater things to come, i have been spoiling myself a little bit with videos that made LN in to VN where they use char models from other animes cause this characters have not been shown in VN nor manga |
Sugram22 said: NekoMikoBismarck said: Not gonna lie, this episode pretty much killed the entire series for me. This was such a great opportunity for the story and the mc to move to an interesting direction. Because of his hands-off approach and lack of long-term strategy on how he intends to handle global affairs, the city and parts of the population got put to the sword. Even a trusted subordinate of his got killed. I was really intrigued for a moment what this was gonna evolve into. Until the word "resurrection" was uttered... And I knew, it´s over. Nothing is gonna come out of this. Everyone is just going to come back to life and our mc will get a massive power boost. That´s it. We all understand that in like 95 % of cases the heroes are gonna come out on top, that´s not surprising (especially in isekai power fantasies). But if you are going to make it virtually impossible for even support characters to get the axe and stay dead, how do you expect to ever create suspense again? The only possible way to salvage this would have been to go ahead with the resurrection plan, but have it ultimately fail (making the 3 % chance at success a realistic erstimation). Now that would have been a powerplay and a rollercoaster of emotions. But alas, it was not meant to be. resurrection that only works if ppl die under the barrier so in most cases the resurrection is useless its all build up the greater things to come, i have been spoiling myself a little bit with videos that made LN in to VN where they use char models from other animes cause this characters have not been shown in VN nor manga By the gods, didn´t we already go over this before? I really thought I finally got the point across to you, why go for this repeat argument? Is this gonna turn into a tradition or something? Or did you actually forget we already discussed this? The probability of the resurrection itself is irrelevant! It is the fact it happened at all that is the issue here! |
NekoMikoBismarck said: ups i came here to look but scrolled past our discussion so didn't notice :DSugram22 said: resurrection that only works if ppl die under the barrier so in most cases the resurrection is useless its all build up the greater things to come, i have been spoiling myself a little bit with videos that made LN in to VN where they use char models from other animes cause this characters have not been shown in VN nor manga By the gods, didn´t we already go over this before? I really thought I finally got the point across to you, why go for this repeat argument? Is this gonna turn into a tradition or something? Or did you actually forget we already discussed this? The probability of the resurrection itself is irrelevant! It is the fact it happened at all that is the issue here! |
Sugram22Apr 29, 2023 10:08 AM
| This series has no stakes whatsoever. One moment people were weeping, Rimuru was raging, and then.. " guys listen I've got a fairy tale with me, listen to this and reviving everyone would be easy-peasy. Chances you ask.. of course 100% hahaha". Like hell resurrection, and then covering things up with mass annihilation. Just don't kill them in the first place then. This is just not right. And wait did I mention anything about Myulan, about how she didn't face any consequences because of course everyone is going to get revived, so might as well leave her be. This is still a decent watch but yeah no tension, no stakes just fluff. |
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Softhenic03 said: they needed just plot device a reason why Rimuru would become demon lordThis series has no stakes whatsoever. One moment people were weeping, Rimuru was raging, and then.. " guys listen I've got a fairy tale with me, listen to this and reviving everyone would be easy-peasy. Chances you ask.. of course 100% hahaha". Like hell resurrection, and then covering things up with mass annihilation. Just don't kill them in the first place then. This is just not right. And wait did I mention anything about Myulan, about how she didn't face any consequences because of course everyone is going to get revived, so might as well leave her be. This is still a decent watch but yeah no tension, no stakes just fluff. its not like he can use the resurrection any time he wants sins souls go away without barrier and some deaths can come out of the blue so he cant prepare and make barrier just in case |
Sugram22Dec 9, 2023 6:45 AM
| Shuna, all tired and sweaty with her kimono sleeves rolled up while tending to the wounded, is kinda hot! I really dislike it when there's finally a meaningful death in the show, and suddenly, there's a way to bring them back. Oh well. I'm still enjoying the overall story so far. Milim's backstory is interesting. Now I know why she was being dramatic about having companions during the Tensura Diaries. Rimuru is gonna kill 10,000 humans? Interesting. |
| Now the story is picking back up. |
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Reply to Mattinator95
Think they fucked up on the order of how they adapted this. All the despair should have been last episode.
This episode should have showed a few days had passed then have the hope
This episode should have showed a few days had passed then have the hope
| @Mattinator95 i guess they had to compress cause of budget |
Reply to MizuhoKamui
Shuna, all tired and sweaty with her kimono sleeves rolled up while tending to the wounded, is kinda hot!
I really dislike it when there's finally a meaningful death in the show, and suddenly, there's a way to bring them back. Oh well. I'm still enjoying the overall story so far.
Milim's backstory is interesting. Now I know why she was being dramatic about having companions during the Tensura Diaries.
Rimuru is gonna kill 10,000 humans? Interesting.
I really dislike it when there's finally a meaningful death in the show, and suddenly, there's a way to bring them back. Oh well. I'm still enjoying the overall story so far.
Milim's backstory is interesting. Now I know why she was being dramatic about having companions during the Tensura Diaries.
Rimuru is gonna kill 10,000 humans? Interesting.
| @MxS7HGS and why no kill them when they are coming back to genocide them anyway, its like they want to offer themselves to Rimuru lol |
| Oof I feel bad for Shion after sh e died nooo |
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| there is necessary evil to be done to revive shion and the others. just hoping that 3% is enough. also so that is millims story |
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Sugram22 said:
humans that are coming to genocide them so its justified
its counter attack, attack them before they attack u, so them coming is convenient for him
still is awesome show
humans that are coming to genocide them so its justified
its counter attack, attack them before they attack u, so them coming is convenient for him
still is awesome show
I agree with you, I don't understand why anyone would defend that asshole human. those who started it and those who will come back to attack again, so what's wrong with killing them all? they also slandered tempest residents, killed tempest residents, and tried to attack again but there were people who thought Rimuru shouldn't kill them after all the bastard things they did. if rimuru doesn't kill them then the residents of tempest will be destroyed. I think the people who support Falmuth's leadership are people who want to be pacifists but the brainless version.
| @Muara and rimuru is already quite the pacifists, cause most would have killed Carybtis with fobio still inside but he told milim to kill it without killing fobio |
| I still dont understand the problem with killing them he already needs to fight them so most of them gonna die in this version Rimuru gonna eat their soul it’s not like he gonna kill innocent civilians Rimuru gonna attack people who already killed he’s people like where is the problem even if he can’t save who already died Rimuru need to be more powerful now because humans don’t like them and Rimuru need to protect the kingdom |
| So this episode confirmed what I suspected happened to both Shion and Gobta's friend which was that the otherworlders killed them. Speaking of which, I don't recall anyone telling Rimuru about the otherworlders so far. Eren, whom I had forgotten about, appeared and told Rimuru of a fairy tale about resurrection where a half dragon/half human eventually became a demon lord and the illustrations of the girl looked alot like Milim. Also, I actually thought for a second that Rimuru killed Myulan but instead he basically freed her although now she may become queen since he asked Youm to become king of Falmuth since Rimuru plans to wipe them out. I'm thinking Rimuru will use their souls to become a demon lord, interesting stuff. |
| Rimuru held it together after hearing about Shions fate. That really takes a lot. I'm glad Eren came back to shine a bit of positivity back into the story. Rimuru definitely needed it, and now I can't tell if i'm worried or gleeful in what the invading army is about to face! |
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| This episode gave me mixed feelings, but not in a bad way. Normally, resurrecting characters cheapens their death, as in the case of anything pertaining to the magical or mystical, while they can create rules limiting the number of resurrections, these stories are also able to change their rules as they feel. It's not like stories that are grounded in reality, where one life is all a character has. While becoming a Demon Lord can give Rimuru the power to resurrect everyone, the cost would usually be that the corpse would come back without a soul. However, due to the very, very specific circumstances present, Rimuru may be able to resurrect everyone with the sole cost of becoming a Demon Lord, which will most likely have its own consequences, particularly that of devouring ten thousand humans. Would this violate the very rules Rimuru established for the nation of Tempest at the beginning of the series? Would this jeopardize future human-monster relations? Would any of this even be brought up, or would Rimuru be given the pass by virtue of doing this for some greater good or out of self-defense? It's been acknowledged, in an incredibly convenient manner by carriage-drawn plot device, that this low-success rate resurrection was even possible. It's also acknowledged that the sociopolitical climate of this isekai world is extremely fragile, and the slightest imbalance of power could lead to conflicts such as the one present here. The story knows that it's engaging in some ass pulls, but it's also aware of its implications. I'm conflicted because I'd normally be apprehensive, if not against, backtracking on such significant decisions such as killing off named cast members. However, I do enjoy the cast, and after going through Slime Diaries, I may have inadvertently become endeared to them. Perhaps it's due to the series doing so well at making the characters fun and sympathetic. Maybe it's because of how the nation of Tempest comes across as such a pleasant place, and how we've seen the nation get built from the ground up over a long period of time. It could also be due to Rimuru being an interesting protagonist, where Rimuru is definitely powerful, yet is surprisingly still not the most overpowered character in the series yet. Also, while Rimuru could power up to unfathomable heights, all the other characters in Tempest lack Rimuru's, well, main character status. This episode shows that everyone else is just as susceptible to injuries and death. Despite how acts of violence can be reversed - within the same episode no less - the concept of loss still impacts Rimuru, and seeing Rimuru own up and go out of the way to fix everything does somewhat make up for the ass pull. Convenient? Absolutely. Earned? Somewhat. Needed because the loss of these characters would drive the story down a very dark path, possibly irreversibly in a way that abandons its optimistic and wholesome nature? Possibly? At the very least, the implications of Rimuru becoming a Demon Lord? I just hope it doesn't cause too big of a fuss. Honestly, I just want to know how the series justifies Rimuru consuming ten thousand humans, assuming Rimuru actually goes through with it. How many human lives are worth the monster lives that were taken? Is it even fair to compare the worth of lives? Rather, is it even right to bring up the comparison to begin with? Is the fact that these are soldiers that have committed atrocities, and are actively marching towards war to inflict harm against civilians, a fair reason for using them as essentially food? I can't say whether or not this act would be justified, but I'll at least let the series make its decision and see how it decides to go forward. Assessments of right or wrong, good or evil, and justified or unjustified are definitely interesting topics to bring up here, but as a viewer, I'm more interested in seeing how the characters react. In terms of morality, I wonder how the characters will vary. |
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