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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Not sure if that filthy monkey is worthy of fighting Yabuki, but we'll see. |
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| A monkey might be more civilized than Harimau... though I definitely get what Yohko's trying to do. Joe will most likely win, but what's important here is that Yohko wins. If not, Jose is gonna crush Joe. |
 People need societies, but they don't necessarily need nations. - Yang Wen-li |
| Well Harimau sure is...something else Joe has never faced before LOL Also Joe are you blind? can't you see it's YOU that Noriko is in love with...so dense. |
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| That Harimau doesn't even seem human. Hope Joe beats him down to a pulp. |
BruceLad said: Lmao, I cannot take Harimau seriously XD This. He feels so out of place - not realistic at all :/ |
| Comparing Harimau with Joe is a joke, lol, he is wild, too wild. |
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| Lol, that's what I call wild. This is gonna be an interesting match. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| So next they will be killing a monkey, I see. |
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| This new "boxer" is a fucking animal lmao. The diversity in Joe's opponents is remarkable, though. none of them are similar to each other at all. all of them are unique in a way. the only two that i would say are somewhat similar are Rikiishi and Jose, which is a nice parallel considering that both of them represent the end of the spectrum. Rikiishi is Joe's first opponent, and Jose is Joe's last opponent. |
Don1Joker said: This new "boxer" is a fucking animal lmao. The diversity in Joe's opponents is remarkable, though. none of them are similar to each other at all. all of them are unique in a way. the only two that i would say are somewhat similar are Rikiishi and Jose, which is a nice parallel considering that both of them represent the end of the spectrum. Rikiishi is Joe's first opponent, and Jose is Joe's last opponent. I can imagine Rikiishi and Jose drinking some coffee and having a civilized conversation about manly things and stuff. |
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| I have a problem with the way a lot of the characters have been acting, especially Yoko. I get that she's concerned and wants Joe to be at his best fighting Jose, but the way she's going about it is awful. And on that topic, what's so bad about Joe having calmed down. He grew up, he matured, he realized blowing up every time someone slights you isn't always the best option. He's a Shonen manga/anime main character that actually received legitimate character development, why on earth would you want to undo that. |
| With all the depictions of other countries' boxers in Ashita no Joe, I can't say too many of them seem like kind images. For the Malaysian Harimau, he seems like a particularly bad representation. There are still indigenous tribes there, but they're not primitive savages. It's once again brought up, but it's put much more succinctly this time. Joe is really short-sighted and only cares about himself. Everything in his world is defined by himself. With Yoko, I'm not sure what she was expecting. She brought over an aggressive animal of a man over to a known hothead, they almost break out into a brawl, and then she's surprised that Joe kept his cool and walked away? It's clear that Joe just wants to fight Jose, and he's not trying to get into unnecessary fights. All these unnecessary detours, as Joe puts it, really seem like they're just to piss him off. Anyways, in retrospect, maybe Ashita no Joe veers into the realm of a Byronic tale. Joe is a character defined by his rivals, but he can only compete, or even feel alive, when he has a clear rival he's aiming for. In absence of that, he loses his will to live. In other words, he needs a rival to keep his inner flame lit. However, unlike most shounen-esque stories, Joe keeps losing his rivals one after another, either due to serious injuries or death. As a result, he keeps losing his flame bit by bit. He keeps trying to find replacements, and each time he's less and less enthralled. He wants to burn out in the ring, as he can no longer live normally outside of boxing. To do so, he needs a strong rival, but since he keeps losing them, he's also losing himself. He only knows how to fight, but without someone to properly fight with, he can't do anything else. At that point, he might as well be dead. It's probably why he tends to drift around when he's not fighting. In that sense, Ashita no Joe makes sense as a tragedy about a man who's broken because he keeps breaking everyone else he finds worthy. If this interpretation holds any truth, then while I may not necessarily enjoy the show, I recognize that it's one hell of a story. |
ShockedApr 27, 2023 10:05 PM
| This must be the most racist depiction of a non-Japanese character I've seen in anime. |
| That Harimau guy must have been the inspiration for Street Fighter 2's Blanka. |
| Lol this is getting stupid |
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Feorg said: This must be the most racist depiction of a non-Japanese character I've seen in anime. nah bro ur just a yellow animal |
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| This is somewhat hilarious. We got to see a Joesus moment in the end. I wonder how long Harimau will last before getting disqualified lol. That probably won't hapoen but still... Looking forward to this fight! |
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| Dont I love me some racism on my japanimation Sarcasm aside I want to point out how incredibly funny Harimau's kick was when Joe had his back towards him. It was so absurdly done. Like doing a fronflip 1cm up the ground |
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Shocked said: Anyways, in retrospect, maybe Ashita no Joe veers into the realm of a Byronic tale. Joe is a character defined by his rivals, but he can only compete, or even feel alive, when he has a clear rival he's aiming for. In absence of that, he loses his will to live. In other words, he needs a rival to kee his inner flame lit. However, unlike most shounen-esque stories, Joe keeps losing his rivals one after another, either due to serious injuries or death. As a result, he keeps losing his flame bit by bit. He keeps trying to find replacements, and each time he's less and less enthralled. He wants to burn out in the ring, as he can no longer live normally outside of boxing. To do so, he needs a strong rival, but since he keeps losing them, he's also losing himself. He only knows how to fight, but without someone to properly fight with, he can't do anything else. At that point, he might as well be dead. It's probably why he tends to drift around when he's not fighting. In that sense, Ashita no Joe makes sense as a tragedy about a man who's broken because he keeps breaking everyone else he finds worthy. If this interpretation holds any truth, then while I may not necessarily enjoy the show, I recognize that it's one hell of a story. Well put ... as his fire keeps getting smaller he loses that wildness he had inside of him, that hunger for more, something Yoko figured out and is desperate to get back. Maybe that's also where the series is headed, Joe devotes everything he has to boxing but at what cost, overdoing it will eventually catch up to you. Rikiishi died from wanting to get to Bantamweight so badly to fight Joe that ultimately his weight loss killed him. Same with Carlos, out of the spotlight, he wanted too much too fast, he fought Jose right after Joe (which already took a huge toll on him) |
PrOxAntoApr 27, 2023 3:01 PM
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| When we first saw him I thought they got a caveman, and turned out that's not too far off. |
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