One Punch Man 2nd Season Episode 12 Discussion

Mirai said:
Ok this wasn't that bad. Just really average. The biggest problem is that season 1 was so phenomenal an average season is gonna look like shit in comparison. No idea how well S2 sold but I doubt we're getting S3. Manga it is then.

Oh and as nasty as I think centipedes are, centichoro is the coolest monster don't @ me.

Kish0 said:
"King the strongest human alive." Based on this, Blast is either dead or not a human. Though, this is just a word from a bird monster lol.

EpsilonX said:


That's just what he's referred to because they think he has Saitama's strength. Bang/Silverfang is higher rank than King as well.

Kish0 said:
So they think Saitama is stronger than Blast?

From my understanding, higher ranking doesn't necessarily means stronger, it's also based on their achievement.

EpsilonX said:


Well, I don't think they just mean all-around combat ability. I think they mean just physical strength. Metal Knight and Tatsumaki both have excellent combat abilities, but they don't use their physical strength to fight.

Reapermask said:
Smh two seasons in and we haven't seen any big threat yet, waiting so long for Saitama to fight, he only taps some small fry
Was quite prepared to be disappointed majorly by the animation seeing all the comments about it, but I must say it is pretty reasonable, not as good as first season but not really terrible either

funkotaku said:


Its called One Punch Man. Prepared to be further disappointed if you continue watching the series. LOL

Venom900 said:
Disappointing compared to the first for sure but think alot of people are over reacting to the quality drop off.

Kinda interesting how to me this is a bit underrated and Mob Psycho 2 was overrated.

GoldenDevilGamer said:
So this Frankenstein's monster of an anime is finally over. I say Frankenstein's monster cause the quality is just so inconsistent and the anime just feels so forcefully stiched up and composed, all thanks to J.C. Staff's horrible scheduling and state.

The content this season adapted is my favorite chunk of OPM. Had it been well-adapted, it would've been 10/10 material for me. And there are times when the anime is able to capture the impact and spirit of the manga. But it's just too far and in-between for me to truly appreciate it. Honestly, I find the animation to be quite okay. There's definitely some bad cuts and literally no cuts, but there's times when it's really damn good. And honestly, from an animation standpoint, I can't say I was too disappointed, It's no S1, but it's not bad either. It's pretty much average for most parts, and above average, or even very good for the moments that matters. Shoutout to Aoki for doing a fantastic cut in almost every episode. Despite denying it, he must've been overworked. Imagine if he had a better schedule to work with and less cuts to be depended on for. He's being wasted by being at J.C. Staff. Same for those webgen animators; they're work in episode 8 was good, but it clearly looks unfinished. J.C. Staff's work has been quite good considering their schedule.

But my real issue is the directing. Not that it's always bad, but when it is, it's really, really bad. The flow from scene-to-scene is lacking and overall makes it seem like as if this series is rushing when it really isn't. It's just not put well together. Some shot angles are pretty lacking, and it's not even to hide the lack of animation or anything. Sometimes it doesn't even do justice to the animation effort in. Speaking of not giving justice to its animation, that blur effect used to bypass the TV seizure regulation really kills their effort. They should've just dimmed the brightness like S1. Watching the blu-ray release of this season seems like a mandatory thing now. And some directorial choices with the coloring, like the tanned look of some characters and that metal gradient... really? It's not even a effort saving decision. The director actually thought that it would look good. Like, wow. Also, dem sound effects are meme-worthy at times. At times, it's hype like JoJo. At times, it's laughable like Berserk 2016. As expected from the sound director.

The content in this season is OPM at its best. Saitama can only serve as a punchline for so long until it gets boring, so this season dedicates itself to develop and expand on the Hero Association and the differences between heroes and monsters. And it's most critical choice as to literally chance it's main character from an OP hero (parody of a shounen MC) to a in-training villain (shounen MC characteristics given to a villain). In a way, OPM still manages to parody the tropes by giving them to the villain instead. OPM's whole goal is to be fun. In S1, it does it be using the OP gag and S2 creates fun out of the absurtity of the heroes' design and abilities and Garou's antics. And Garou's just super endearing. He's blood-thirsty against heroes, but kind to anyone else. And he's represents a grey part in-between this whole hero and monsters thing. And his seiyuu is perfection. He was my second choice for Garou, and he nailed the character.

Overall, I guess this season is still a 7/10 for me, which is good, but considering its content, it should've been much higher. Prior to this season starting, I was expecting much, much worse. If you've seen J.C. Staff's projects after Taboo Tattoo, you'd confuse their works for a powerpoint presentation. It would've been a 6, but these last two episodes really pushed it up. Wasn't expecting that at all since most anime productions get worse as it goes on. As haphazardly put together their schedule was, at least they times it right, knowing which episodes to prioritize and whatnot. I was totally expecting episode 3 being their all-out episode, then them losing steam for the rest of the run, but they did great with episode 11 and even this episode was quite good. And they even called in a lot of talented webgen animators for episode 8 and 11. Now, if only they had more time..

Tyestor said:
god i hate how secretive saitama is. king is basically mr. satan and saitama is goku, but it somehow pisses me off more.

I-Jitsu said:
This was quite disappointing. Honestly, I don't give a damn about how well they adapted this or who changed in their staff because my main problem with this anime is the story itself. I sincerely cannot relate to Garou or his childish motive of beating up heroes because he was bullied for rooting for monsters. That's like stupidest shit I ever heard. It's like me beating up the ice cream man because I don't like ice cream but others did and they bullied me for not liking it in my childhood. It even felt like Garou was the main character this season.

This season actually made me hate Saitama. Like he was so useless apart from his one punch that he had little to no relevance this season. Like he literally didn't care about the whole monster association or the attacks unless he was the last option. On the plus side I kinda like King's character and even Genos to some extent.

geteigetei said:
Did they just fucking re-use the punch animation from the first season's opening for the centipede punch? LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxYe-nOa9w

Look at 1:16, the pose, they actually did it WOW

Terrestrious said:
It's not terrible but the downgrade in production values are unfortunately too tremendous to overlook. I will give JC Studio credit because at the end it did seem they were putting more effort in, there were some pretty good cuts, especially during Genos vs. Garou but their best couldn't match up to the standard of season one. And whenever they did close-up actions shots, with big speed lines on the top and bottom and what seemed like a glare effect of sorts, oh boy those were so bad and so frequent. They made me want to turn away from the screen and look elsewhere. I know they did their best and there were good to great moments of animation but I really hope we don't get the same staff back for Season 3. I hope we get Natsume Shingo back in the directors chair next season.

The animation wasn't the only downgrade, direction felt off at points. Scenes like Saitama telling King "why don't you just get strong" had a lot of impact in the manga for me, but not so much here. And the OST, it's not bad mind you, but I couldn't help but felt it was really lacking. I didn't really pick up anything new, different renditions of familiar melodies was the best I noticed, which is good, I think having leitmotifs is a good idea, but when all that stood out in the OST was songs from season one, it doesn't really this season. The only time the OST stood out was when it used a rendition of Saitama's theme, the first season had Saitama's theme and then plenty of other top tier scores to that helped elevate it.

Having read the manga and parts of the web-comic, I already know how this Garou/Monster Association thing is going to play out so the story this time around wasn't really bad for me, but I feel really bad for those anime-only. This does not really leave off on a good place. One of the best things about season one is that it kind of felt complete. Like yeah there was room for more story but the Boros story arc ended on a grand note befitting the series, this season ends as it was arguably just getting good.

But that's not to say this was all bad of course, this season had Garou, and that's one improvement at least. I think Garou's the best character in all of One Punch Man, and I thought that by the point of the story we've already. I just think he's got the most depth to him, his ideology is simple but interesting, the running gag of Saitama kicking his ass without knowing it is hilarious, and I really like how despite being the villain so-to-speak, he's framed as the protagonist. Like how during the encounters he's the one who's headspace we're giving insight too, how he has the almost shonen protagonist never give up attitude, were he's constantly overcoming the odds in the last two episodes, like the backstory we're given interspersed throughout.

He's not the only good thing, the base content still has a lot of entertaining moments. King is a lot of fun, I think Suiryu's arc is well done, Fubuki's best girl, Sonic cooking the monster cell, etc. Again, though, the manga really is where it's at with One Punch Man, Murata's art-work is godly, and a lot of certain individual moments like the aforementioned King moment (or several of Suiryu's moments [though the anime handled those fairly well).

Terrestrious said:
It's not terrible but the downgrade in production values are unfortunately too tremendous to overlook. I will give JC Studio credit because at the end it did seem they were putting more effort in, there were some pretty good cuts, especially during Genos vs. Garou but their best couldn't match up to the standard of season one. And whenever they did close-up actions shots, with big speed lines on the top and bottom and what seemed like a glare effect of sorts, oh boy those were so bad and so frequent. They made me want to turn away from the screen and look elsewhere. I know they did their best and there were good to great moments of animation but I really hope we don't get the same staff back for Season 3. I hope we get Natsume Shingo back in the directors chair next season.

The animation wasn't the only downgrade, direction felt off at points. Scenes like Saitama telling King "why don't you just get strong" had a lot of impact in the manga for me, but not so much here. And the OST, it's not bad mind you, but I couldn't help but felt it was really lacking. I didn't really pick up anything new, different renditions of familiar melodies was the best I noticed, which is good, I think having leitmotifs is a good idea, but when all that stood out in the OST was songs from season one, it doesn't really this season. The only time the OST stood out was when it used a rendition of Saitama's theme, the first season had Saitama's theme and then plenty of other top tier scores to that helped elevate it.

Having read the manga and parts of the web-comic, I already know how this Garou/Monster Association thing is going to play out so the story this time around wasn't really bad for me, but I feel really bad for those anime-only. This does not really leave off on a good place. One of the best things about season one is that it kind of felt complete. Like yeah there was room for more story but the Boros story arc ended on a grand note befitting the series, this season ends as it was arguably just getting good.

But that's not to say this was all bad of course, this season had Garou, and that's one improvement at least. I think Garou's the best character in all of One Punch Man, and I thought that by the point of the story we've already. I just think he's got the most depth to him, his ideology is simple but interesting, the running gag of Saitama kicking his ass without knowing it is hilarious, and I really like how despite being the villain so-to-speak, he's framed as the protagonist. Like how during the encounters he's the one who's headspace we're giving insight too, how he has the almost shonen protagonist never give up attitude, were he's constantly overcoming the odds in the last two episodes, like the backstory we're given interspersed throughout.

He's not the only good thing, the base content still has a lot of entertaining moments. King is a lot of fun, I think Suiryu's arc is well done, Fubuki's best girl, Sonic cooking the monster cell, etc. Again, though, the manga really is where it's at with One Punch Man, Murata's art-work is godly, and a lot of certain individual moments like the aforementioned King moment (or several of Suiryu's moments [though the anime handled those fairly well).

todd2580 said:

>glare effect of sorts

it's a ghosting and blurring from TV Tokyo example

https://i.imgur.com/rosRVAx.mp4


the BDs will remove them just like what happened with the first 4 episodes.

also it ended in the middle of the story so ofc you won't feel that it's a complete experience just like Season 1 were since S1 was having an air that fits for those 12 episodes while the garou seems it'll need more than that...