Higurashi When They Cry: Dice Killing Arc
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| wow, i'm so glad that she chosen that world. after that episode im even huger lover of rika, rena and hanyuu. and i must watch now umineko to know more and more =d |
janeify said: wow, i'm so glad that she chosen that world. after that episode im even huger lover of rika, rena and hanyuu. and i must watch now umineko to know more and more =d Little spoiler about Umineko - you'll not know more than you know now until you'll play in VN =) |
| Is the game that much different than the show, in respect to Higurashi, not Umineko? And, is like a ton of stuff not revealed in the anime that is revealed in the game? |
Kenaya said: janeify said: wow, i'm so glad that she chosen that world. after that episode im even huger lover of rika, rena and hanyuu. and i must watch now umineko to know more and more =d Little spoiler about Umineko - you'll not know more than you know now until you'll play in VN =) T__T haha. i hoped that something more will be explained, |
| For a fan of good dialog like me, this episode was probably one of the best higurashi episodes I've seen. Good stuff. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
DarkGoddess said: So wait, who exactly is Bernkastel? I'm still a bit confused a character from Umineko, highly suspected to be Rika. Fredrika Bernkastel Fredrika = Furude Rika. If you read Furude fast, you'll get a slight fred and add rika at the back. Though I don't think Rika is Fredrika, I think Fredrika is sort of a alternate Rika witch or something. |
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| I thought Umineko was just an alternate setting based on the same type of mystery horror plot as Higurashi, so wouldn't most characters from Higurashi have equals in Umineko not just Rika, or am I incorrect? |
So wait, who exactly is Bernkastel? I'm still a bit confused in a way Bern is Rika but she is also...not...thats hard to explain I thought Umineko was just an alternate setting based on the same type of mystery horror plot as Higurashi, so wouldn't most characters from Higurashi have equals in Umineko not just Rika, or am I incorrect? yes you are wrong ^ ^ Is the game that much different than the show, in respect to Higurashi, not Umineko? And, is like a ton of stuff not revealed in the anime that is revealed in the game? well, in Umineko anime theres like...none hints regarding Higurashi, while theres a lot of them scatterred around in Umineko Visual Novel |
| no, you are wrong. she existed all the way, they even met in Minagoroshi, she was a different entity from a long before Rei...its just that in Rei Rika rejected her as a part of herself |
| Lol, ok. Not the first time I have been wrong by a long shot, heh. Now I know I got more of a unique series to watch, too :). |
| Bernkastel confused me (never played the games) ^^ But besides that a rather good episode, I loved the dialogue between Rena and Rika! |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| So it was just a dream... I kind of dislike that way of telling a story. They make you all excited/scared/emotional/whatever and then they tell you it was all nothing... |
| whew...she made the right decision yay :D i couldn't stand that world :) 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| So in the end it was all a dream , Hanyuu seems to have a lot of hidden powers... |
| So she did kill her mother..I could see that coming.Also, Hanyuu's past was really interesting! |
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| I don't blame Hanyuu for getting mad at Rika. werr-y said: So it was just a dream... I kind of dislike that way of telling a story. They make you all excited/scared/emotional/whatever and then they tell you it was all nothing... Agreed. |
| oh my gosh, I would be so pissed off at Hanyuu if I were Rika. Even though Hanyuu was trying to make a point and succeeded, her idea of making a world where she has to choose between her old life and her mother is pretty messed up. |
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| Pretty good ending to the main story.... it is better if the whole series was not rushed..... i was hoping for a 24/26 epi. tv series...... like s1 and kai.... |
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| I think I squealed when I saw Irie. |
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| Okay lots of things happened in this ep, but I always knew the other world was better, yes everybody had their perfect life so what's the point then? what I think life is for is to make your dreams come true but if your life is already perfect there is no point...anyways I understand myself. Well I guess I would have to see umeniko after this, even thought it doesn't look so atractive to my eyes but I guess it will explain (I just saw so much spoiler) that now I know I have to see it. |
| I didn't like the end of this arc much, the whole thing felt a bit rushed really. |
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| Schrodinger's cat? o.O the uncertainty factor of quantum mechanics? anyways despite being rushed, the resolution can pass as acceptable. Rika learned to be grateful of this world and never look back at the past. Though I hate it when the stereotypical "dream" is used... |
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| This episode was kind of disappointing but eh it was needed for plot development. |
| While I was looking forward to a dramatic episode of decision making and worrying for Rika and a murderous Rika, I am very content with how this episode turned out regardless. It was very dialogue heavy, but I enjoyed it immensely. I like some of the theories and thoughts presented here as to the dream or maybe not a dream world thing. My gut and feelings want to believe it was a real world, but of course it doesn't matter now that she's back in the original world. But Hanyuu created the world as a reminder for Rika and Rika's sin about her parents, too. So overall I guess I'm accepting it for what it is, haha. I'm kind of hesitating to watch the very last Higurashi I'll see... I've seriously loved this series and hate to see it finally end... but I guess it's time to take this last OVA head on!! <3 |
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CardcaptorKitty said: While I was looking forward to a dramatic episode of decision making and worrying for Rika and a murderous Rika, I am very content with how this episode turned out regardless. It was very dialogue heavy, but I enjoyed it immensely. I like some of the theories and thoughts presented here as to the dream or maybe not a dream world thing. My gut and feelings want to believe it was a real world, but of course it doesn't matter now that she's back in the original world. But Hanyuu created the world as a reminder for Rika and Rika's sin about her parents, too. So overall I guess I'm accepting it for what it is, haha. I'm kind of hesitating to watch the very last Higurashi I'll see... I've seriously loved this series and hate to see it finally end... but I guess it's time to take this last OVA head on!! <3 Same here I'm very satisfied. The similarities between this arc and the Haruhi Suzumiya movie is a lot. It's Kyon and Rika deciding which world they want. ^^ I would have made the same choices as Kyon and Rika too if I was in their position. Time for the sadness of the last OVA. Higurashi, you've been a good franchise. edit: lol forgot to mention, I thought it was funny Rena got all philosophical. |
| hmm i think she did good on choosing that world ^^ omg i was so in shock when she was like "Have to stop acting like Bernkastel." i was so happy cuz all i could think of was Umineko No Naku Koro Ni XD and i was like so thats why they look so much alike! |
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| what no mother killing scene such a rip off |
| Overall, I think this arc was quite good, it actually went into the implications of a lot of the time-travel going on in Kai, at least the implications that weren't gone over. However, the whole thing felt a bit rushed. One or two more episodes would have been nice. |
| Quite a bit of philosophy in the last half of this episode... |
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| nice episode, with all the philisophical talk... nice end to arc, reall good episode!! |
| -Sigh- I've given up trying to understand the what the relationship between Frederica, Bernkastel, and Rika. Frankly, I am not interested in Umineko (no interest in playing the VNs and heard the anime has really retarded logic), and I doubt the creator actually has a solid explanation for the relationships either. Just leave it as "you humans won't understand anyway" excuse I guess, and to make fans form countless theories to keep them hooked. This OVA series has been somewhat a disappointment to me (other than the OP, which is the best one out of the 3 seasons). To be truthful, I think the series was better before it got into all this witch business. Yes, I know it was always part of the VNs and such, but that doesn't mean I have to like it much. I did enjoy Rika's plight in Kai, but a small part of me wishes I stopped in the original. The discrepancies in the characters' personalities may be flaws in writing, part of the Higurashi/Umineko universe, or just something I see personally that may not actually exist, I don't know, but it annoys me. I guess it's because I'm in the middle in the scale of people who are really into the "lore" of the series and the people who just watch without thinking too hard about it. I'm not so much into it as to try to understand/theorize but not casual enough to shrug it off so some of this witch/world/Hanyuu related stuff just comes off as being slightly irritating. |
CookieBunJul 16, 2011 11:04 PM
| nice episode although I would have liked to have seen Rika agonize with her decision. |
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| This show never ceases to amaze me. It was all a dream for Rika and Hanyuu is back. Why do I have the slight feeling Hanyuu and Rika should be more than friends...? ~~Nipaa |
| Great episode :) I was so enchanted by the whole thing<3 Higurashi is so beautiful.. I remember when I started watching it, I was expecting a terrifying bloodbath like everyone made it out to be. Slowly, I began to realize that this show is so full of emotion and pain and hope.. It just makes me so happy. I'm crying right now :') Seems like next episode is going to be just a happy one where all the friends have fun together. That will be really nice. After this, it's on to Kira! The infamously fanservice-filled OVA XD ahaha, anything Higurashi will make me happy though, so I'm good :3 |
| So everything was a dream, alright than its good she's back to her world she wants to be in! Great episode I wonder what's next! |
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| i really enjoy this section. it's definitely all talk and no action, which actually good since we need to know more and more about the characters i also like the comparison Rena made with the flower and that it's better if you choose the world that you work hard on rather than wish a world that is seemingly perfect. as for the dream. it could be that Hanyuu said it was all a dream just so to not only to teach you about the consequences in each choice, but also to ease her pain and reminded her parents. since Rika seem to be not caring about her parents in each world. i was hoping they would indeed animate the killing scene to confirm she did it, also would love if they animate Rika visiting her parent's grave(could be in the next episode) lots of thought provoking and awesome themes. i wish more anime's are like this. and back when i saw Higurashi it was all lovey and cutsey. now i know why you don't judge a book by it's cover :P |
| should i of watched Umineko before this? or what? with that witch reference or does it even matter? also, my only qualm, is i think this episode should of been the last episode, it just has that finale feel to it right at the end of the episode, should of had the 5th episode as the 2nd imo, oh well, i didnt go into this season expecting much since i felt s1&2 did a good job tying things up 7/10 |
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| I was looking forward to Rika killing her mom... oh well :P |
| Unlike you shameful people (jk :P) Im glad they didnt show the killing. . . Just leave it to your imagination if you want to picture it so much, after all, it doesnt matter it was all a dream ;) |
| That was a very thought-provoking episode. I never knew that Higurashi can be this deep. |
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| -_- pretty good, kinda interesting, but i kinda wanted to see some violence :p you know like her actually killing her mother |
zonnikku said: Also, about Bernkastel: (you won't find any of this out until you read ALL of Umineko) She was created from the pain Rika felt for 100 years and is not really Rika herself, but more like a separate persona that Rika created from her pain. Actually, no. Wikis always here for you (VNDB & Wikipedia). Kenaya said: This Furude Rika - Fu-re-de-ri-ka - Frederika is f*ckin' awesome Erm? I thought that was... pretty stupid simple. Zango said: I thought Umineko was just an alternate setting based on the same type of mystery horror plot as Higurashi, so wouldn't most characters from Higurashi have equals in Umineko not just Rika, or am I incorrect? No, Umineko is another franchise that developers just crudely sewn to Higurashi, just to artificially increase the interest in Umineko. wailofthebanshee said: As Bernkastel has no relation to this anime, it felt like Rika was just namedropping there. Yep, just your average advertising here. moniilove said: Well I guess I would have to see umeniko after this, even thought it doesn't look so atractive to my eyes but I guess it will explain (I just saw so much spoiler) that now I know I have to see it. Well, if you wish to be severely disappointed. CookieBun said: -Sigh- I've given up trying to understand the what the relationship between Frederica, Bernkastel, and Rika. Frankly, I am not interested in Umineko (no interest in playing the VNs and heard the anime has really retarded logic), and I doubt the creator actually has a solid explanation for the relationships either. Just leave it as "you humans won't understand anyway" excuse I guess, and to make fans form countless theories to keep them hooked. This OVA series has been somewhat a disappointment to me (other than the OP, which is the best one out of the 3 seasons). To be truthful, I think the series was better before it got into all this witch business. Yes, I know it was always part of the VNs and such, but that doesn't mean I have to like it much. I did enjoy Rika's plight in Kai, but a small part of me wishes I stopped in the original. The discrepancies in the characters' personalities may be flaws in writing, part of the Higurashi/Umineko universe, or just something I see personally that may not actually exist, I don't know, but it annoys me. I guess it's because I'm in the middle in the scale of people who are really into the "lore" of the series and the people who just watch without thinking too hard about it. I'm not so much into it as to try to understand/theorize but not casual enough to shrug it off so some of this witch/world/Hanyuu related stuff just comes off as being slightly irritating. My thoughts exactly. Hito420 said: should i of watched Umineko before this? or what? with that witch reference or does it even matter? No, no reference & no: Kyube said: I consider watching Umineko a waste of time. The only reason for watching are Bernkastel and maybe and Lambdadelta. You don't have to know everything about Bernkastel, reading the wikipedia article about her origin is enough. |
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| So all of that was a dream. This was a good episode. |
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| Great episode, the philosophy talk at the end made me think about my own life. |
GoogolplexJan 1, 2014 5:22 PM
| I thought this was a really really good episode. Rating this episode as a stand-alone I'd give it 10/10. But Rei overall would be 9/10 since I think it's as good as the first series. Kai was 8/10 - got a bit boring at times, and didn't have the same "feel" as the first series, since the element of mystery was no longer there. Anyway, about this episode: there seems to be a lot of confusion and disappointment regarding the ending... Hanyuu quite clearly explains right at the end that it was in fact a dream world she created for Rika, as a sort of punishment for being so careless with her life. Rika thought of herself as a God with Hanyuu by her side, casually going from world to world, and Hanyuu had to remind her that her life is precious, and to not be so careless with it. You can imagine after being to over 100 worlds you get in the habit of not caring as much about dying. It's like her life was a video game where she could just "re-spawn" if she died. Also, Rena's big analogy was really meaningful and enlightening. It's made me look at the way I live my own life in a different light. Perfect ending imo. Though I haven't seen episode 5 yet I've heard that it's not really relevant... |
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