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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- No one on the good guys’ side died. Not even Saya. Heck, Nathan even asked Saya to kill him. In other words, there was no big final boss with a secret master plan that I had been hoping for. I wouldn’t necessarily say that Saya and Hagi suddenly became more powerful, but it did seem like Amshel and Diva weren’t as intimidating as they were before. Which is to say that the producers needed to bring the enemies down to Saya and Hagi’s level so that those two could win. And the whole thing about Diva losing her powers because she gave birth seemed like a convenient way to kill off Diva and keep Saya alive. |
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| Nathan, seriously. What kind of chevalier are you. Not only did you stand by while your queen died, but you didn't revenge her. Instead you indirectly killed yourself. JEEZ. |
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| Well that was weak. The fights were poor to say the least and what the hell was Nathan doing? They went to the trouble of designing his character then let him die without a fight... |
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| Ok, I've never expected that Diva would loose her powers with the birth. I'm also a bit disappointed with the conclusion, now what remains is the last episode.~ |
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| well i think its quite understandable that her blood lost its potential upon giving birth.. so its safe to say that they're mother died coz of that same reason.. poor Diva.. all she wanted was to be loved.. juz like Saya. If they haven't done that to her in the first place, locking her in a tower and doing experiments on her none of this would've happened in the first place :3 ah, i was right about Nathan after all.. he wasnt that evil, merely watching over Diva. but what will happen to Lulu now :( and wow, that was a convenient time for the babies to hatch xD its a Saya&Diva pair all over again, blue and red eyed... |
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| Not quite the climactic battle we expected, but both Diva and Saya took what should have been death blows had Diva's blood retained its potency. Now what do we do about the two innocent lives? Don't raise one of them in isolation with only a creep like Amstel for company is my suggestion. It's nature and nurture dammit. |
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| Seemed like a convenient way to kill Diva, with the explanation that giving birth makes their blood lose power. Saya vs Diva wasn't as tense as I had hoped, but I guess it could have been worse. Amshel seemed a lot weaker than he was portrayed before, and Nathan left me with a lingering facepalm. |
| i think its totally understandable that Diva would lose something when giving berth. assuming that her blood still carried its ability to kill their own kind then it would be impossible for her to have children because her blood would kill them while they are still within her womb. assuming her babies didn't need her blood to grow then they wouldn't get enough nutrients to grow in any way shape or form. as convenient as the ending is, i think its perfectly logical and satisfactory. Nathan tho... he did almost nothing for the entire show and died without doing much either. why did they design such a character in the start anyways if they weren't gonna use him for something later. the only possible explanation i can see is that he's like Solomon and fell for Saya but is unable to break free of his Chivaleir blood like solomon did. |
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muggy8 said: i think its totally understandable that Diva would lose something when giving berth. assuming that her blood still carried its ability to kill their own kind then it would be impossible for her to have children because her blood would kill them while they are still within her womb. assuming her babies didn't need her blood to grow then they wouldn't get enough nutrients to grow in any way shape or form. as convenient as the ending is, i think its perfectly logical and satisfactory. I agree with you she should have become weaker from birth since her blood is deadly to Saya maybe its the same with the baby with red eyes. Omg that sucked what a shitty way to deal with Nathan I would have hoped he would have fought and killed Saya and even Haji I wouldn't have minded that kind of ending to be honest. At least he went out by killing himself and not being brought down to the level of Saya and Haji like Amshel was which was kinda lame. |
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| Not exactly the grand fight I was hoping to see. Diva's loss of her blood lethality via birth seemed like a cop out so they could end the whole thing. Also didn't understand what Nathan was doing...maybe he wanted it to end too. Whatever lol. |
| Hurr durr, I'm a burr. |
| Well... my double death prediction sure went out the window. |
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| We watched Diva and her chevaliers wipe the floor with Saya for 48 episodes, and now she killed them all in one episode? This was pathetic. I damn sure hope the last episode will be worth while, because this was just bad. |
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ownosourus said: We watched Diva and her chevaliers wipe the floor with Saya for 48 episodes, and now she killed them all in one episode? This was pathetic. I damn sure hope the last episode will be worth while, because this was just bad. Not only that, but Saya was saved a thousand times over by Diva's chevaliers...this show has one of the most weak and mediocre plot lines I've seen. |
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| 5/5 Jeez, as if I believed in a deadly battle for the two, but I finally figured out before he did the narration as would be gone, great anyway! Plot even hidden, I'm dying to see how the story ends. Nathan was a gentleman, that honorable death! * _ * Anshel was the only one who deserved to die like an idiot instead! XD Diva at the end was not so bad was just looking for the life that he had always had his sister Saya! |
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| Meh that was pretty anti climatic after so many drawn out episodes... |
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| How on earth did Amshel get killed by Haji? He was so much more powerful earlier on. As well as Haji had never killed any tough opponents by himself. So will Saya kill the--? Nathan was a pretty interesting character earlier on, I guess he was actually dedicated to Diva more than anyone. I just didn't expect him to choose death so fast. |
| Kill those kids! If you don't do, this dreadful history would repeat itself... |
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| I was so confused at why Nathan didn't tell Diva that she'll lose her blood powers when she got pregnant. Like nathan?? aren't you Diva's chevalier??? Or did he knew she'll not win anyways and want to die alongside with her? |
| Saya and Haji should have been dead long time ago if Solomon is not helping them. |
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| So Nathan was Diva's Chevalier after all? Then why did he claim in the previous episode that he was the Chevalier of the mummy? Was that a fake brag for Amshel or did the writers just crap the bed? If he was the Chevalier of the mummy mother then Saya's blood should not have killed him. And why, whether he was the Chevalier of Diva or her mother, would Nathan just ditch the baby Queens?? I also did not quite understand if Diva intended to die along with Saya and took that sword on purpose, just like Saya. Diva was waaaaaay faster than Saya and probably stronger than any Chiropteran (presumably due to the gallons of fresh blood she drank) but in that duel she neither "quasi-teleported" nor did she take advantage of her much higher speed and flexibility at all. She was moving and handling that sword just like Saya, slowly and like an amateur (quite frankly that's how Saya sword-fights). Saya was both far slower and drowsy, so there was no way in hell she could have ever prevailed in that duel, even in a kill - suicide manner. So did the writers artificially slow Diva waaay down to have Saya kill her or did they suggest that Diva wanted to die along with her sister, perhaps so that the next generation of Queens carries on? By the way, I really hope we get a very satisfying Van Argiano death in the final episode. This snake needs to be eaten alive by one of his own "mouses", preferably slowly. If the writers do not kill him I will seriously drop my intended score by one point :) |
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| Meh finale for meh anime. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Meh finale for meh anime. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
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