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May 30, 2009 2:16 AM
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Most of this episode is Solomon trying to win Saya over psychologically. His words villainize the Joel that created her, but I wonder if there’s more to the story than just that. I’m guessing that each generation of Joel is trying to correct the original Joel’s mistake in trying to create a new race. And if Saya was indeed born in 1833, then there have been many generations of Joels already on the job. Also, the thirty year sleep that Solomon mentions roughly fits with the timeframes that Saya was awake. Thirty years ago would be the Vietnam War, thirty years before that probably lands us somewhere during WWII, and thirty more years takes us to the Russian Revolution time period.
Aug 20, 2009 11:29 PM
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aaaahhhh! rikuuuuuuuu!!!
Sep 24, 2009 10:10 AM
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For a second there, I thought Pedobear was on that phone.
if we die we'll meet again in valhalla...
Nov 10, 2009 9:53 AM
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ShanaFlame pretty much summed up everything about this episode nicely. I like how the story is slowly being filled in and not being rushed. Also, some really good fight scenes are starting to appear :D

Evilyn said:
For a second there, I thought Pedobear was on that phone.


Hahaha I thought the exact same thing.
Jul 19, 2010 6:08 PM
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I loved this episode, I hope Riku is alright but I'm still wondering how was he able to hear the song~
Mar 23, 2011 5:58 PM
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D: riku....
Aug 1, 2011 1:34 AM
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Poor Riku...

But there is a way to save him...
Please don't feed the trolls!
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Aug 25, 2011 4:39 AM
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I'm guessing they are twins. They look exactly alike!

Riku should've known that creepy towers aren't supposed to be explored.
Oct 1, 2011 8:04 PM
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Zell182 said:
ShanaFlame pretty much summed up everything about this episode nicely. I like how the story is slowly being filled in and not being rushed. Also, some really good fight scenes are starting to appear :D

Evilyn said:
For a second there, I thought Pedobear was on that phone.


Hahaha I thought the exact same thing.


lol Pedobear how u came to that conclusion is interesting and funny.
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May 14, 2012 1:40 PM

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Oh hell no, oh no she diiint just do dat.
Oct 28, 2012 6:28 AM

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I feel for Riku but she is one badass character
Jan 22, 2013 1:41 PM

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That's what you get for running around monster teritory alone Riku.

Apr 9, 2013 12:29 PM

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finally met diva!!!

great episode and fight scene :)
Dec 6, 2013 5:52 AM

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4/5

The episode was a bit lackluster compared to previous ones, I found dilaoghi a bit too simple and biased, easy to refute, that's why I see the evil eye comportamneto Saya that lets you easily bribe without responding in kind to certain insinuations. Plot that despite not happen this time either nothing, scored another point, by inserting in the history of the dubious position of Riku serving us and he and his sister on a silver platter.
Curious to see how the story will evolve! * _ *
Narrative I have not found very engaging this episode.
Drawings and animations that maintain a good level.
Aug 2, 2014 2:37 PM

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Saya and Diva being created, from a failed (or not) experiment, it's an interesting idea (as opposed to just exist as some mystical creatures).

And I still don't understand why some are human looking and others are just brainless monsters... A lot of symbolism with the colors too. Saya's eyes are red, working with Red Shield, likes red roses. Diva's eyes are blue, her Chevalier had jewelry with blue stones, and she is surrounded by blue roses. Also there were purple roses. And you obtain purple when you combine red with blue...

Damn... only the Chiropterans can hear Diva's song. I was wondering why Riku can hear it too o___o I really really really hope he's not dead. Because if he is, she's gonna loose it for sure this time.
Dec 1, 2015 4:10 AM

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Diva is so cute.
Haji got beaten again.
Poor Rik is being drunk by Saya's sister. He has that strange ability to hear Diva, so he probably won't die yet.
Dissent said:
I'm guessing they are twins. They look exactly alike!

Riku should've known that creepy towers aren't supposed to be explored.

Even if they have a sign "Free hugs". Especialy if they have.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
Jul 23, 2016 7:50 PM
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Riku is drawn to Diva like a sailor to a siren...
Sep 6, 2020 6:25 AM

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eyyyyy its diva :P
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jesus christ this is literally the 3rd time (and 4th overall) that i've watched this series in the span of a year, covid-19 and depression are kicking my ass LMFAO

this and ep 22 are two of my favorites, the scene where riku is lured by diva always takes my breath away for some reason, her voice is so enchanting

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