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| I'm getting more and more disappointed with this. It's not the pace, it's not the artwork, it's not how different this is from the first series that's bothering. What I really don't like is that FMA2 pretty much leaves you indifferent. Should this episode have been dramatic, emphasizing the idea of not playing with human life, reflecting Nina's story into Ed's story? Yes. Was it? No. I honestly didn't feel anything towards the end. They just presented Tucker's and Nina's story amongst the lines of "So there was this creepy scientist dude who transmuted his daughter, weird huh?", which, on top of being a major disappointment, was also unrighteous and pretty much irrelevant. |
confused_kitsune said: What I really don't like is that FMA2 pretty much leaves you indifferent. They just presented Tucker's and Nina's story amongst the lines of "So there was this creepy scientist dude who transmuted his daughter, weird huh?", which, on top of being a major disappointment, was also unrighteous and pretty much irrelevant. That is exactly how I felt, strange that others are pointing this out as well. It doesn't feel like FMA2 is connecting the individual stories and making them relevant to the whole. Even though FMA1 has the same "episodic" style in a sense, it makes them relevant to the whole. The succession of each story feels nonsensical. |
DunkyApr 29, 2009 10:13 AM
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| I do agree with you, Capellabun, that this episode could have been used as an awakening to the adult world for Ed. A world in which he may have to dirty his hands even more in gray areas to remain a state alchemist. But with that said, what we still would have needed was still more pathos from Tucker instead of a childish disconnect from Ed where he just super hulks out on Tucker. I feel like there should have been more frustration on Ed's part rather than outright anger if it were going to be about that. |
| I guess I didn't give what kind of more I wanted to see from Tucker. I wanted to see Ed bond with Tucker in a way so that it is that much more frustrating for Ed when he knows what he did to his daughter. I wanted Ed to feel betrayed by someone he respected and cared for, and not just be able to totally deatach himself and punch the living daylights out of Tucker. I wanted to see him struggle to with hurting him, if only to echo to the daddy isssues Ed has. |
noteDhero said: I guess I didn't give what kind of more I wanted to see from Tucker. I wanted to see Ed bond with Tucker in a way so that it is that much more frustrating for Ed when he knows what he did to his daughter. I wanted Ed to feel betrayed by someone he respected and cared for, and not just be able to totally deatach himself and punch the living daylights out of Tucker. I wanted to see him struggle to with hurting him, if only to echo to the daddy isssues Ed has. Wow! to be quite honest, that sounds awesome. It'll be really quite contreversail if they pulled off the episode like that. But, since the producers want to rush the series where the manga left off, they want to cover these episodes real quick. Even though I can't quite blame them for doing that. |
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noteDhero said: I wanted Ed to feel betrayed by someone he respected and cared for, and not just be able to totally deatach himself and punch the living daylights out of Tucker. I wanted to see him struggle to with hurting him, if only to echo to the daddy isssues Ed has. But, you see, from the very beginning he could NOT bond with him. He formed an insta-bond with Nina and even the dog,but not with him. Tucker, at least for me, shows just how much Ed hated his father. Tucker, after chimera-nina stuff embodied everything Ed hates about Hohenheim. The extreme version of that person who, supposedly never cared for him. In a sense, its what Ed would do to his own father, if his hatred, disrespect for him would not go away, if they would not get to reconcile peacefully. The way I see it - Hughes and Tucker are two extremities covering the different ends of his memories about his father. |
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| @Fai Fai, in one of your previous posts you stated that you didn't like how they dealt with Basque Gran in FMA1. You know what, Even though I loved the original FMA series, this was one of its major flaws the series did. I mean they made him as the "big stupid evil guy" in the contrast, the manga managed to make him interseting especially during the Ishbal war. In another note, I doubt this would a 50-ep. series, If they kept with the 1-chapter covering 1-episode it'll be like 60-70 eps. It's not like im complaining. |
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Fai said: But, you see, from the very beginning he could NOT bond with him. He formed an insta-bond with Nina and even the dog,but not with him. Tucker, at least for me, shows just how much Ed hated his father. Tucker, after chimera-nina stuff embodied everything Ed hates about Hohenheim. The extreme version of that person who, supposedly never cared for him. In a sense, its what Ed would do to his own father, if his hatred, disrespect for him would not go away, if they would not get to reconcile peacefully. The way I see it - Hughes and Tucker are two extremities covering the different ends of his memories about his father. You make a good point, but again, then I have to wonder what the purpose of this episode was in the way that it was presented, and I can only guess that it was about Scar. |
| I guess this song doesn't apply as much anymore: I found this episode much better than in FMA1 though. Nina was less annoying... Though I did cry when she died in FMA1. Probably because it was my first anime with dramatic character death like that. :x |
| Cool episode, Scar did the right thing putting Nina and Dog out of their misery even if it was kinda brutal. Ed was basically doing the same thing I wanted to do to Shou |
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| lol at the dog taking out Ed again and again. That's about all the lol's you can get out of this episode... :( |
| Thought they were going to skip this arc. First season pulled this off better, just like all the arcs in the past few episodes. |
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aero said: Thought they were going to skip this arc. First season pulled this off better, just like all the arcs in the past few episodes. Well they could not skip this arc, nor the previous ones since FMA1 screwed them up by: |
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eternal_blue said: lol at the dog taking out Ed again and again. That's about all the lol's you can get out of this episode... :( That was pretty funny. But this episode was so sad. T__T I'm loving Miki Shinchiro's job of Mustang though. |
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| I from my point of view thought the episode was paced on just the right amount needed for it to be quality and yet stil quantity. However the show is so emotional I am beginning to fall in love with this. People stop complaining they do this pacing because they want to get this bit over and done wih so they can move to new stuff which the previous anime apparently did not cover! P.S I did drop the predecessor because I thought it was inconsistent. |
Kabyk said: Right......because people who LIVE and WORK OUTSIDE cannot POSSIBLY have dark/tanned skin. (not to mention the fact that its a GODDAMN DESERT) Lior is not in the desert, smartass. Lior is in the middle of mountains just as seen in FMA2 ep3 and manga. |
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| I can't believe how unreasonably ridiculous some people are being: "FMA1 screwed them (arcs) up: Turning Rose and, well, everyone in Lior into brown guys". Lior was in the desert in FMA1, so it is only obvious that their residents would be brown. They did what?!? They turned a town in the mountains into a town in the desert!?! Screw their creativity! |
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| The pacing is still too fast for my liking but the way that Shou's deeds were revealed was done much better this time around. Having him not notice until Nina said "Big brother" made it much more depressing and a bit more of a sudden shock if this was your first exposure to Fullmetal Alchemist. |
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| okay seriously, HOW IS THE PLOT ANY DIFFERENT SO FAR FROM FMA1?? WHY ARE THEY REDOING THIS SERIES IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE SAME STORY ALL OVER AGAIN?? |
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| Tucker didn't die, we didn't see The Truth, and we didn't get that ice alchemist. I am kind of on your side, but they really are in a hard place. |
noteDheroApr 30, 2009 6:40 PM
Capellabun said: Naruleach said: okay seriously, HOW IS THE PLOT ANY DIFFERENT SO FAR FROM FMA1?? WHY ARE THEY REDOING THIS SERIES IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE SAME STORY ALL OVER AGAIN?? I'm sure everyone is tired of explaining this but I'm going to do it anyways. This isn't redoing the same story. Sorry if this post contains spoilers but there are significant differences between this series and the first. We're only 4 episodes in so you won't see the differences in the plot until later on in the series. The beginning episodes and chapters of the FMA manga are pretty much the same up to a certain point but there are a lot of differences if you compare this to the previous series. If you watch this episode you should of noticed other differences too but since you haven't I will list a few starting from the first episode and hopefully I won't spoil too much. - Lior is located in the mountains instead of the desert, Rose's character is no longer significant later on in this series (so far) as she previously was. -The time line is obviously different, most of these events like Nina's episode take place after Edward has taken the state alchemy test. -Unlike in the first series, General Gran and Tucker die in this episode. They will not be seen again throughout this series(except for Gran IF they cover a certain chapter) unlike the first series. -Not sure if this would be a spoiler but characters such as Archer, Lyra, and Dante do not exist in this series so with these characters gone its pretty much a given that the plot is going to be different. I would list more but that would require me to spoil the rest of these episodes so my only advise to you would be for you to just watch the rest and you'll see that this isn't just redoing the same story. Seriously, This has to be a sticky or something, I think I explained nearly the same thing a few pages back and in the episode 1 post. People either need to learn to read an entire post(s) or just stop asking dumb questions. Its not a second season. Its a re-telling of the story based off of the manga's direction. Need a hint where FMA1 breaks away from the original manga story? When Greed has Al kidnapped... the story is basically completely different and we are introduced to Dante as well as a few other other anime only characters. I would say give it up until maybe 20 or so episodes before things are "different" I think Bones might run this time around for 100+ episodes. Hopefully. |
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| "Wittle big bwatha." Yeah. My mind wouldn't let me rest until I posted that. Anyway, good episode. There were obvious differences from the first series. I haven't read the manga, but I'm sure that this srayed true to it. I really hope they make this 100+ episodes. I want to see the story without having to go finish it in the manga. |
| My heart aches.... I read that, in the first series during the scene where Ed realizes that Nina/Alex are the chimera, Romi Paku cried during the lines. I can feel it. Aren't actors awesome? |
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| ah thanks for explaining to me the differences so far from the 1st FMA and this one. It's been such a long time since i've seen the original FMA so sorry I don't recognize the "obvious" differences between the two. and yes, i think it's clear I don't read the manga. (though one day i plan to!) |
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Cebola92 said: Also, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a little too rushed for me... Next thread will, most likely , have keyword count for "rushed" and "pacing", just to count all the clowns. Seriously.... IT WAS ONE CHAPTER...--.-- |
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| Did not have that much of an effect to me (since I already knew what will happen). But still very greatly executed. I can say that if this was the first time I'll see this episode, I would have loved it tenfold. Looking forward to the next. |
| When Ed was punching Tuker I felt like It had no effect and then Al was all like stop it you'll kill him. That was kinda lol. Not very nicly done imo... When Scar got nina & tucker i almost cried(for nina not tucker). |
| "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise" |
| That was really sad even though I already knew what was going to happen!!! *cry* I hope the series stop repeating the old storyline of the anime soon, though. |
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| The saddest episode of FMA:B so far |
| This episode was done much better in the first series. More emotion, imo. |
| I haven't read the manga, nor watched the first version of anime so I won't compare things xP But this episode was heartbreaking ;___; I started crying the moment the chimera spoke just because it was so sad to see a magically created animal that understood it was an effect of experimenting... And it just got worse when Ed revealed that it's Nina and her dog (is it normal that I'm feeling bad mostly for the dog? D:)... Whoa, my eyes are getting wet again when I'm typing this x___X I seriously wanted to kill Tucker. Sorry for my bad English xP |
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| I was pretty satisfied with this episode; best one they've released yet (though the first episode was great too). Followed exactly like the manga (hell, even Ed's expression was the same when he looked at Tucker after his realization), and we got to see Tucker dead. After reading the manga (I'd watched the anime first), it bugged me to no end that this detestable guy had lived in the anime, but had actually died in the manga. Seriously, did we really need that guy to live in the anime? He was just so..gah..so repulsive and annoying. Points to Scar for getting him out of the picture. Erm, anyways, enough about annoying Tucker. I was really happy that they didn't use those stupid split screen effects like in the previous episode, and uh...Well, I don't know what else to say, really. It was good episode, that's all. Poor Nina and Alexander, too. |
| It gets me every time. poor Nina. |
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| Its a little sad......... |
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| basque and his arrogant veteran self deserved to die even though he has ultra war techniques |
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| One of the few scenes anime that truly make me feel depressed. |
NINAAAA~ ; O; I cried. :C And I'll cry for Hughes too. x_x; Again. >:C Damn you FMA. At least Nina's death wasn't all asplody and horrible like last time. Good lord. Dx |
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