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| The author of the LN really likes to talk about commerce and how important in the development of the society. He talked about it a lot in MaoYuu and he talked about it in Log Horizon. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Just some thoughts here. It could be possible that they were either "scamming" the guilds or with-holding information to use as leverage. Or they are doing both in one go. Description of episode somewhere stated "Back at the meeting, Shiroe has Henrietta play a dangerous game of baiting the three guild masters into investing the remaining amount of gold under the false pretense of an extremely profitable legendary Novasphere Pioneers quest led by non other than the "Villain in Glasses" himself—Shiroe." It could also be possible that they discovered a new recipe for Roc eggs as a reward when they fought the new boss added in expansion pack when going through the Ratman pass. So they sounded as though they will be selling information to these three guilds. (Hence the cookbook part.) However, this might not be as profitable as it sounded during that meeting. |
sentience said: I don't think the theme of this anime is this cynical. Most probably they are uniting the guilds into doing something positive about the whole environment. They could not disclose their mission of crushing the bad guild (as Shiroe said, since people cannot get killed it is extremely difficult to stop people from disbanding a guild) because other guilds would not think it worthwhile but once it is done they will see the worth and point of such endeavor and they will combine their effort to make the place better for everyone. The title in the next episode "roundtable conference" seems to be pointing to this direction too.It could be possible that they were either "scamming" the guilds or with-holding information to use as leverage. Or they are doing both in one go. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
However, this might not be as profitable as it sounded during that meeting. Everything can be profitable if you're talking to the three greatest production guilds in Akiba. And that's what Shiroe and Henrietta are exploiting. |
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symbv said: sentience said: I don't think the theme of this anime is this cynical. Most probably they are uniting the guilds into doing something positive about the whole environment. They could not disclose their mission of crushing the bad guild (as Shiroe said, since people cannot get killed it is extremely difficult to stop people from disbanding a guild) because other guilds would not think it worthwhile but once it is done they will see the worth and point of such endeavor and they will combine their effort to make the place better for everyone. The title in the next episode "roundtable conference" seems to be pointing to this direction too.It could be possible that they were either "scamming" the guilds or with-holding information to use as leverage. Or they are doing both in one go. I know that's the big plan here but I was thinking in smaller terms, as in having to get that money from pulling off such a "scam" or "lying by omission" from that. That's the whole point of the negotiations, and why it was very risky for Henrietta there. Those three poor fools were thinking in terms of monetary gain for themselves only. I hope they would be able to see the bigger picture of "profitable" here in terms of revitalising the game economy by the end of the next few episodes. Obviously, to give off the real plan to crush the bad guilds is too risky because certain big guilds are using the bad guilds to farm exp pots for levelling. Orix said: However, this might not be as profitable as it sounded during that meeting. Everything can be profitable if you're talking to the three greatest production guilds in Akiba. And that's what Shiroe and Henrietta are exploiting. Not so profitable monetarily for the 3 production guilds if things end up being disclosed in other ways. |
sentienceNov 24, 2013 6:24 AM
| This episode title Villain in Glasses, I thought there's an enemy among those who they've talked to at the meeting, but it's Shiroe's nick, hahahaha. I'm getting more and more excited as they were closing in saving those 2 kids. Even though there's no romance in this, it's quite good, but I hope there is.. |
| Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. |
| 5/5. |
thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. I suggest dropping this anime. I think there might come more ''talk'' episodes. |
| nice episode.. almost make me dont understand.. lol anyway. nice plan shiroe. so what next? killing those guys? lol :o |
| Shiroe's strategic/political skills are so good, it makes you wonder why he's in engineering! I guess if that's what he finds more fun IRL, then so be it. I think some of his success comes from the fact that IRL, most of the people that play the game are NOT high level businessmen or politicians and are therefore somewhat more susceptible to his Machiavellian plans... |
| This show is SMART and feels like an MMO. Said it before and will say it again: So far LH>>>>SAO. |
PaleBlue said: Engineering involves plenty of analysis and problem solving, so it doesn't seem too far-fetched to me that an engineer in real life could be a strategist in-game. However, when it comes to manipulating real people... I don't think being an engineer helps much. -That- part would have to come from Shiroe as an individual I guess. O.o?Shiroe's strategic/political skills are so good, it makes you wonder why he's in engineering! I guess if that's what he finds more fun IRL, then so be it. I think some of his success comes from the fact that IRL, most of the people that play the game are NOT high level businessmen or politicians and are therefore somewhat more susceptible to his Machiavellian plans... I'm going to need a character relation chart to avoid getting lost with this huge cast. >.< Also, why doesn't myanimelist sort characters alphabetically by first name when they don't have a last name? They seem to be sorted by character ID number now, which isn't that helpful. =/ |
thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. You're joking....right? |
| I wonder why it keeps getting compared with SAO. It isn't about getting out of the game, isn't about romance, isn't about action, isn't even about an Virtual Reality game. Nothing but the game aspect is similar to SAO, and even so, they're dealing with it in a very different manner. |
thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. I think you are going into Log Horizon with the wrong expectations. Everything that you said, SAO will provide, but there are still things missing from SAO that Log Horizon have provided so far (realistic gameworld, balanced support system, anarchy, cheating and exploitation, economy problems, etc). |
| great episode :D |
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| why am i still watching this show about mmo politics |
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baboomrr said: thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. People enjoy LH because it's about gaming. It has gaming as a core plot device. It follows gaming in terms of skill cooldowns, hunting, farming items, strategizing, buddy list, gaming economy/market, in-game items. It doesn't use "gaming" as a gimmick, it is a core plot. They show the "back-end" of gaming, how it works, just like a store, the back-end is where you see and understand how the store operate. SAO is a "Hack and slash" that uses gaming as a gimmick. They showed a few "gaming things" but gaming isn't a core plot device of the show. They used a town portal a few times, saw an HP bar sometimes, and fought a few bosses, that was all just the front-end of gaming to show off good animation. Like a store, the front-end is the pretty parts that makes people say "Oo's and Ahh's". It's like watching a video game trailer that only shows cutscenes and no gamepley, that's what SAO is... and Asuna. TL;DR: LH = Gaming anime SAO = Asuna anime Pretty much this, and i barely do gaming. LH just got this "gaming" vibe. |
| Really enjoying this anime :) |
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sentience said: thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. I think you are going into Log Horizon with the wrong expectations. Everything that you said, SAO will provide, but there are still things missing from SAO that Log Horizon have provided so far (realistic gameworld, balanced support system, anarchy, cheating and exploitation, economy problems, etc). ^ pretty much this I personally love Log Horizon a lot better than Sword Art Online. Brains and Teamwork > Power and Solo Can't wait for next arc, opening shows some scenes of some kind of war so i'm anticipating it. :3 |
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| The moment I've been waiting for. |
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| Alright episode. A little slow and uninteresting. |
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Forgetfulness said: Aw hell yeah. After this episode, Log Horizon has gotten another point for a 9/10 It's nice to see that they're actively thinking and trying to improve the situation. Although I find it somewhat strange that EVERYONE knows Shiroe. Even if he was in Debauchery Tea Party |
| Can someone tell me why that little girl and boy wont just fucking walk out, if they die they respawn wtf are they so worried about, they act like they will die for real..... Seriously they can literally force their way out |
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| Another boring episode. I am starting to wonder why some people still compare this anime to SAO. There is nothing in common between them. SAO is definitely more of a dramatic anime with more interesting moments than this one, whereas Log Horizon is all about the specifics of the MMO games. I don't like the fact that they are wasting time explaining how to prepare some hamburgers and crappy things like that. When you are trapped in a MMO game, aren't you supposed to be more like shocked or I don't know. These people in the game are living as if this is a joke and I don't understand why. The atmosphere is too calm and friendly for a plot like that. Either way I am still watching this till the end but the truth is that I expected a lot more from this series. |
DarkRanger said: Another boring episode. I am starting to wonder why some people still compare this anime to SAO. There is nothing in common between them. SAO is definitely more of a dramatic anime with more interesting moments than this one, whereas Log Horizon is all about the specifics of the MMO games. I don't like the fact that they are wasting time explaining how to prepare some hamburgers and crappy things like that. When you are trapped in a MMO game, aren't you supposed to be more like shocked or I don't know. These people in the game are living as if this is a joke and I don't understand why. The atmosphere is too calm and friendly for a plot like that. Either way I am still watching this till the end but the truth is that I expected a lot more from this series. The people comparing to Sword Art Online are morons. Both have completely different objectives with what they are trying to do with their plots. SAO is pretty much a romance action anime with gamers trapped in a MMORPG. It really didn't care about building its universe, all it really cared about is showing off how badass it's protagonist was and what he was capable of. LH on the other hand is about building its universe and it's strategies for dealing with it. It isn't really so much about how "powerful" Shiroe is as a fighter, but how intelligent he is and how he can deal with things without fighting. The ONLY way the two anime are similar is that both have characters trapped within a gaming universe. Hell, .hack//SIGN had that and I wouldn't call that and SAO "similar". The people who are calling this episode "boring" are nothing but simpletons that are only watching this series for aesthetic purposes, not giving the series a chance because it's focusing more on the strategy more so than the brute strength of dealing with things. Personally, I find this series fascinating. I love watching the wheels turn in Shiroe's head about how he can deal with this situation without engaging into combat. I'm interested in seeing where this is going and what will happen next. It has an interesting approach, to say the least. |
| Boring? Wut? This episode was awesome!! the negotiations were really interesting to watch. From the preview, i think next ep will be great, can't wait to see Shiroe's true ability as the former strategist of DTP. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
| I really like how they're adapting Log Horizon. They really capture the elements that make LH enjoyable. And for people who only like action in shows like these then this series may not be for you. There will be some big battles later on but there are a lot of socio-economic, political and psychological themes explored in between these sporadic battles. Some scenes feel like a slice of life anime and some are subtly romantic. This variety keeps my interest very high. And for the love of *** please stop comparing SAO and LH. I really enjoyed SAO and it's the one that got me into reading LNs (the anime I'm not too keen on since it really wasn't that good an adaptation). But I equally enjoy LH and it brings different things onto the table. Just enjoy the shows for what they are. Can't wait for Shiroes plan in motion next week. It was simple but very, VERY effective. |
ibrahim2712 said: Can someone tell me why that little girl and boy wont just fucking walk out, if they die they respawn wtf are they so worried about, they act like they will die for real..... Seriously they can literally force their way out The consequences of being bullied, hunted, cornered or blacklisted for PK-ing later on if they choose to walk out, plus they are suddenly whisked into the game world without knowing much except that they can respawn. Though I think it's mostly their fear and sense of helplessness that is holding them back, until this episode when they showed their determination. Also, they were previously told by Shiroe to be patient and also to wait for his plan to work. |
| I really like Log Horizon but I think they can do more to improve it. I find the novel much more exciting. Comparing the anime (20min) vs the novel (4-5 chapters), I find that the anime often miss out some details that I found to be helpful. It is good that they included the thinking during the 8th episode discussion (which haven't been done for the last 7 episodes). So I believe the anime is trying to include more factors from the book into itself.. swordstriker21 said: And for the love of *** please stop comparing SAO and LH. LH and SAO is just basically the same different/basically different. I agree the basic idea of "stuck in game" IS THE SAME. BUT IT IS SO DIFFERENT - One is action based and the other strategy. If you can't rid yourself of your mindset that they are the same, you will not enjoy this. |
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lancerjk said: I really like Log Horizon but I think they can do more to improve it. I find the novel much more exciting. Comparing the anime (20min) vs the novel (4-5 chapters), I find that the anime often miss out some details that I found to be helpful. It is good that they included the thinking during the 8th episode discussion (which haven't been done for the last 7 episodes). So I believe the anime is trying to include more factors from the book into itself.. swordstriker21 said: And for the love of *** please stop comparing SAO and LH. LH and SAO is just basically the same different/basically different. I agree the basic idea of "stuck in game" IS THE SAME. BUT IT IS SO DIFFERENT - One is action based and the other strategy. If you can't rid yourself of your mindset that they are the same, you will not enjoy this. Yep. They have very different elements and writing styles. Only the premise is basically the same. And yeah the novels are more detailed and explains some of the actions and expressions of the characters better. But I'm still loving how they're adapting LH into an anime. |
| Now I'm really curious of Shiroe Plan. Did he try to buy out Akiba..? |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| Not bad, the negotiation went well, but it seems a little too easy, but I don't really mind, I mean, they had the upper hand by having the monopoly of the foods and drinks in that world.. Now, let's see how Shirou rolls. One thing I realized clearly in this episode is that Shirou's name packed a lot of power, as in, very influential. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
| Looks like I'm probably wrong about them becoming an aventuring guild. |
HalibelTheEspada said: Looks like I'm probably wrong about them becoming an aventuring guild. I don't know, but I don't think so. Why travel again when they had already done that, with the Tea Party. Maybe they will, to discover the secret of that world, but not anytime soon. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
ToG25thBaam said: Yeah, you're probably right... their guild name just sounded like an adventurous name. But now I think this will be more about the economy of the game, which would be just as nice.HalibelTheEspada said: Looks like I'm probably wrong about them becoming an aventuring guild. I don't know, but I don't think so. Why travel again when they had already done that, with the Tea Party. Maybe they will, to discover the secret of that world, but not anytime soon. |
azzuRe said: Now I'm really curious of Shiroe Plan. Did he try to buy out Akiba..? Close but not quite. |
thepath said: Very boring episode with no action. Not just this episode. but last few episodes were also boring. Where is the actions ? boss battles ? What about romance ? SAO is miles better than this. SAO might have a lot of flaws but, but none of the episodes were boring to watch. Sure dude. Sure |
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