| I thought the ending made sense. If they stayed together everything that Manami said would have come true. To see a full-on siscon ending would have been depressing. People go through changes in life. So they hooked up, and then when they realized it wasn't going to work out they way they dreamed about, they did the right thing and ended it, and moved on. Now it would be nice to see what happens next. |
| Felt bad for Kuroneko, but I didn't even feel anything for the other characters. (actually Manami's confession was pretty well done as well) Overall, I liked what they did, I found it really awesome! If Kuroneko cant win, NO ONE CAN! |
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| everything was going perfect until last 3-5min then score 10 became score 6 and i gave it 6 because i loved the season 1 so much. |
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| They addressed the elephant in the room, explained the character's motivations, tied up all the loose ends and didn't go too far into creepy territory. So yes, I did like the ending |
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radle said: See [url=http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18109.html]http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18109.html The author wanted the kiss at the end of the anime to be on the lips! And not just that but Kirino's new hairstyle that was in the light novel was cut... sigh A-1 shit F*** you! What should of been. arghhh i knew it! back when i read the LN epilogue, i thought the kiss was on the lips, until i watched the anime version. what a disappointment x__x thanks for the info |
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| I feel pretty indifferent towards it. I was hoping that Kyousuke would end up with Kirino because their relationship had the most build-up during the show, and I didn't like the other characters like Kuroneko as much either. But those last scenes after the wedding left a pretty sour aftertaste when it all ended. I still see it as an open ending and that they continued their relationship in secret. The kiss on the cheek didn't seem like a normal "sibling" kiss and I have a hard time imagining that they would suddenly go back to normal after all that |
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| Now i get it! they made this ending so you buy the game and make a better ending YOURSELF! muahahahaha CLEVER BASTARDS! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-08-19/oreimo-happy-end-ps3-game-4th-promo-streamed On-Topic, didn't like much the ending, all the episodes, all the build up to end that way? is it because the censorship and stuff? |
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Kaen_ said: I liked a lot the whole story, but it was a very bad end. All that story for an ending where they will not be together? For god's sake... I really don't think that's the problem here... |
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MCsq2 said: This ending has way too many haters tbh. I thought it was a pretty good resolution to the series. People really need to understand the context behind the story and events and not just want the ending that they want. The ending is left ambiguous for a reason. Although, I do agree that the execution of season 2 was worse than season 1 overall. Most people hate it because of obvious reasons *cough*INCEST*cough* If he had ended up with ANYONE else (excluding Manami LOL) it would have been a good ending. |
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| A re-post of my message from: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=650063&show=440#msg24489483 First of all, the actual source is http://d.hatena.ne.jp/thk/20130817. Also covered by: http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18109.html http://jin115.com/archives/51968504.html Basically there was an advanced screening of the finale in Chiba and a Q&A session took place with the anime staff and the author of the LN. The "guests" were discussing among themselves the changes and impressions of the last 3 OVAs compared to the LN. So the Chairman(?) of Aniplex Yuma asked Fushimi (The author of the LN): What was your impression of episode 16? To which Fushimi replied: Regarding episode 16 overall I'm pretty satisfied, BUT I HAVE 2 COMPLAINTS: from a personal perspective THE LAST KISS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE LIPS. (You can look at the source I posted, that sentence is written in FUCKING HUGEASS RED LETTERS for extra emphasis.) Fushimi continues: The second point, as I have been constantly telling the director - is that Kirino's and Manam'si hairstyle should have been true to the source material. (Probably a symbol of "a new beginning", but that's just my "interpretation") Kashiwada (Aniplex producer) responds: During that scene they were already back to being normal siblings, that's why (the kiss was) on the cheek. The line was drawn from Kirino's perspective. Then an undisclosed "word exchange" breaks out between Miki Kazuma (the LN editor) and Kashiwada. Then vaguely- Miki proceeds: so yeah, even internally there were discussions (lit: pros and cons). Yuma "answers": No, these discussions are worthless/meaningless, really worthless/meaningless. THEN FORCEFULLY CUTS OFF THE WHOLE CONVERSATION. (Afraid of Kashiwada?) So basically to sum up what happened here: The anime staff are forcing a "back to normal" interpretation, Kashiwada is saying that the KISS HAS to be on the cheek. While the LN author is complaining how it was handled and that it was supposed to be a kiss on the lips. Whether the author's intention was expressed to the anime staff beforehand is unclear. (But if you read the whole interview, it's pretty obvious that it was and Aniplex forced their shitty interpretation on us because of their moral faggotry. The author has explicitly stated that this was a COMPLETE KIRINO ENDING (in an older interview), and put extra emphasis and even dared to raise a voice of opposition (Much less in a Japanese society? How dares he? Right?). He put emphasis on the placement of the kiss for a reason. Not because he thought that imaginary saliva residue on his heroine's cheek made her look weird. It was because the kiss ON THE LIPS was a symbol, a symbol of things to come and a last, if somewhat roundabout, stand on artistic integrity. So I would call this "phenomenon" - DOUBLE CENSORSHIP. Implied censorship on 電気文庫 (Denki Bunko - LN publisher) side (as the author has stated in a different interview that "it's hard to write such a "direct" incest story/ending in DenkiBunko) and obvious, disrespectful censorship on Aniplex's side. What we have here ladies and gentleman is a fucking public rape of artistic integrity by means of pushing us into their moral "sandbox" where they feel safe, cozy and can simmer in their own ignorance. |
OwaruSekaiAug 19, 2013 11:49 AM
| I was tripping like crazy on the first ova! I have to say dat the 3 ova were a disappointment for a really good series. I felt really sorry for Kuroneko geting rejected. Why dafuq does this anime have to have incest, like come on... |
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Sourire said: The point is that Aniplex and A-1 pictures purposefully misrepresented their work as a true adaptation of the writer's intention, when the author EXPLICITLY stated and even COMPLAINED that changes have to be made to adhere to his original intent. Yet they completely ignored his input. It's one thing to introduce fillers, when you're out of source material or/and are not planning for a continuation, that are obviously for all their intents and purposes "non-canon". It's a completely different thing when you consciously make subtle and completely pointless changes who serve the sole purpose of imposing your superficial morality on the poor lost sheep, and take a big fat dump on the basic principles of artistic integrity. I mean Aniplex's "interpretation" is as canon and relevant as my wet-dream about them moving to Russia and hunting dolphins in clown masks on a ship called "The Tsundere Breaker". Maybe we should discuss this version? What I'm trying to say is that we're here to discuss the tale of two people named Kirino and Kyousuke, and their "objective reality" only exists in the bowels of the author's mind. On the other hand if you want to discuss Aniplex's interpretation of what was SUPPOSED TO BE "Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai", well.... The ending was the least of it's problems, not only the final OVAs but practically most of season 2 was a complete butchery of the source material. If you take the anime as a separate entity and judge it at face value, well... it's trash. The pacing, direction, writing (because of cut-out LN parts), incomprehensible decisions made by Aniplex, F.E. adapting drama CD's when they have such a small amount of airtime to work with, emphasizing wrong aspects of character development or lack of thereof. |
OwaruSekaiAug 19, 2013 10:56 AM
| KURONEKO. TRUE. ROUTE. My jimmies have never been this rustled. |
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| Would someone mind explaining the ending to me? I can't decide if I ever want to watch Oerimo with all this rage over the ending floating around, and I can't understand the rage if I don't know the ending, so if someone could actually explain what happened that be cool. (Although at this point after being half spoiled by all the rage I more just want to know what happened out of curiosity and probably wont watch it anyways) Like, they get "married" then break up right after.. or something? |
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| I am a Kuroneko-fan, but I have seen enough triangle-dramas, to move past my fandom and enjoy what the series consider the best pairing. So, despite my disappointment in Kuroneko not "winning", I kept watching the episodes, trying to enjoy them. First off, I personally thought the episodes were way too rushed. The perfect pacing of the rest of the series were blatantly missing. Secondly, the fact that Kyousuke and Kirino, despite how it is in the original work, did not end up properly together, and it ended as if it was all a game to them, made me really mad, considering how many people had their hearts broken because of it. #KuronekoTrueRoute |
| Despite reading everything on this forum, i still don't understand what the actual ending was in the LN. Can someone please tell me? |
BakaGekai said: Kyousuke chooses Kirino, fake marries her, and then they proceed to not go through with the relationship because it is taboo. Kyousuke gets no one.Despite reading everything on this forum, i still don't understand what the actual ending was in the LN. Can someone please tell me? |
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Reverb_Shock said: BakaGekai said: Kyousuke chooses Kirino, fake marries her, and then they proceed to not go through with the relationship because it is taboo. Kyousuke gets no one.Despite reading everything on this forum, i still don't understand what the actual ending was in the LN. Can someone please tell me? So the anime was pretty accurate to the LN it seems? |
| the writers trolled everybody HARD with that one. I mean really? He passes on a model, his childhood friend, his ex who he seemed to love, a future idol, and everyone else. Just so he can hold hands with his little sister for the rest of high school? That is extremely disappointing. He even points out how he will never get an opportunity like that again, but he throws it all away for a brief stunt with his MIDDLE SCHOOL SISTER. I would have been fine with him ending up with Kirino even though i think the whole idea is disturbing, because they seemed to genuinely love each other and it would at least provide closure. But nope. The writers decided that he should end up with NOBODY. I mean really? I would've gone with Ayase and ran for it before the writers fucked me over. The worst part was that he was fully aware of how moronic the situation was, but was still fine with it. I mean c'mon. This was the worst possible ending they could've come up with. I would've been happier with a harem ending where he still hadn't made up his mind instead of deciding on being with nobody. |
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BakaGekai said: Yep, it has the same ending. Both are shit.Reverb_Shock said: BakaGekai said: Kyousuke chooses Kirino, fake marries her, and then they proceed to not go through with the relationship because it is taboo. Kyousuke gets no one.Despite reading everything on this forum, i still don't understand what the actual ending was in the LN. Can someone please tell me? So the anime was pretty accurate to the LN it seems? |
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Reverb_Shock said: Yep, it has the same ending. Both are shit. Indeed lol |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| Well, I thought it was a fitting ending for the series, all in all. But I can't say I liked it personally, since my favorite girl -- Ayase, wasn't chosen, and my least favorite heroine won. That being said, I'm not heavily against the idea of them only having a short lived incest relationship because they both understand the implications of such a romance and how society will look at them. I like to think that the ending implies that they're now free to love anyone they want in their life; their relationship is back to that of a passionate sibling love [much like their younger days as children]. I don't hate Kyousuke for what he did to the other girls. Even if his decision is seen as aberrant or asinine, the guy was genuine and true to his feelings; he chose an impossible romance over a practical one because those were his true feelings. So, while I don't love it, I can't berate the series for it, either. |
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SandwichForLunch said: HandSonicvI said: Most people hate it because of obvious reasons *cough*INCEST*cough* If he had ended up with ANYONE else (excluding Manami LOL) it would have been a good ending. As far as I have seen there are two camps. The first is the one you are describing. The other is the one that hates the way it ended specifically because it would make sense for Kyou and Kirino to end up together. I'm in camp 2. I have slept on it now, and I realize why I didn't like the ending now. Because everything that happened is not natural for Kyou (and IMO not Kirino either). Think about it. He has been martyring himself for Kirino since episode 2. Everything he does is for her. He passion he has when it comes to Kirino is astounding. He downright LOVES her, and there is obviously nothing he isn't willing to go through in order to be with her and - more importantly - have her be happy. And that is what was supposed to be the significance of his actions in the last 3 episodes. It is one final act of martyrdom. He cut off all his social ties for Kirino's sake, and this time for his own sake too. The idea that he is willing to just end it all and have it be a fling makes absolutely no sense because he never showed nearly as much passion for anything as he did for Kirino. In my opinion, that last kiss was on the lips, and they continued dating (secretly) and living together like a married couple even though they can't actually get married. Its the only ending that makes sense as far as keeping the continuity of the specials intact while not having it ruined. Of course if we rewind back to episode 12, the story could branch off in any of the girls' endings, but think how hurt Kirino would be when she gets the courage to confess to Kyou and he shuts her down after everything they went through. In my opinion the specials came close to the best possible ending minus those last few minutes that ruined everything. Incest or no incest, who cares? This is a story about a man who will do anything for the one(s) he cares about and loves most, and the one who fits that description most of all is Kirino. The problem is, many people including myself, thought this was one of those typical real life scenario's where the two siblings, in this case brother & sister, haven't gotten along since childhood with nothing in common and are now starting to gradually get along. I could understand the thing's he did for his sister early on in the anime, like bringing her back from abroad. That is what you call love between family! I knew in my gut that he wasn't going to choose anyone for his sister but I thought it was going to be for her sake, to not make her sad, BUT NOOOOO~! What they feel is a lustful love. Kyousuke can be there for Kirino and do anything for her without the lust. |
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| Nope. Because like it or not, those last five minutes are a part of the ending, and those five minutes are more than enough for it to all go downhill. You can't deny its existence just because you don't like it; it's there, so it will be judged accordingly. |
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| Scratch that. It was in line with other harem anime, but yet so different... I'm now feeling very... perplexed about the ending. I still wish kyou-kun would've ended up with someone but oh well :/. |
SouthPacificAug 19, 2013 2:34 PM
Tyrel said: Unlike most people, I hated it mainly because he kissed his sister.. Yep. This. that was the nastiest shit ever. especially since Kirino is annoying as hell |
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| Well, I was kind of surprised (that they chose to end it and go back) but I still loved it anyway x) |
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| HELL FUCKING NO! |
restore said: I LOVED THE ENDING I only wish we got to see Kyousuke fuck his blood-related little sister. I would have the most outrageous boner during that scene. I AM A MASSIVE SISCON, LOLICON, AND WINCESTCON This was the greatest anime I've seen to-date. The ending was perfect in every way possible. The LN depict the ending much better. You should read it. Team Kirino UNITE! |
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| I didn't like. So, those feelings for each other never existed. |
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| I hated it. And I hate the Kousakas. I wanted a Manami ending, or at least a Kuroneko ending. Not this quasi-imouto ending. Fu-Fushimi-san no baka! T_T |
Dashiawia said: I don't hate Kyousuke for what he did to the other girls. Even if his decision is seen as aberrant or asinine, the guy was genuine and true to his feelings; he chose an impossible romance over a practical one because those were his true feelings. So, while I don't love it, I can't berate the series for it, either. wise words RebuildOfKam said: Team Kirino UNITE! I'm in! |
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| As much as i adored Kuroneko - the ending with Kirino was the only reasonable one to amke this series stand for something in the end. The quality of the ending is debatable, but it is decent closure to the story. Only think I didnt liked was that sort of redundant last min, when Kyosuke and Kirino go back to normal sibling relationship. This is both silly and more disturbing than their whole forbidden love. After all I can belive and even support forbidden love against all ods, but I cant sympatise with theirs stupid resolution to go wild for a month, then pretend nothing happened - this ruins the whole impression of them really beeing in love. Still The Anime was pretty good story, and I am eternaly gratefull that they didnt pull the "non-blood related siblings" deux ex machina in the end. The Anime should have been longer though - there were so many great characters introduced that they could totaly make it into the 2 cour anime, and give each other Female Heroine a bit more screen-time. In the end I dont feel disapointed with this series, even as it was one of my favourites. Anyway I definatly enjoyed the whole thing. |
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