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| We have to remember too, if Gargantia is brought there then Bebel will be assessed and probably won't be considered fit to join. Death to the useless boy... I can see that spurring Ledo to action even if the re-education duties don't do it at first.. |
| I'm sure Ledo won't agree with it.. |
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| Nice to see Rackage again. I leaning towards the side that say she has some sort of arrangement with the Striker unit/Colonel. I find it hard to believe that the Colonel was on the other side of the planet and had to keep the radio off this whole time. |
| the queen is back!! oh yeah and what side Ledo will choose? |
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| Ledo is conflicted. After learning the truths and all. Kugal aka Striker is manipulating these people. Follow my rules or die!!! Pinon jumped the bandwagon, same with the other fleet. For safety reasons. Great seeing Pirate Queen and her band of misfits girls. OMG they are gonna wipe out Gargantia as a show of their God like powers!!!! Amy Noo!!!!! I pray Pinon and crew will somehow disrupt this operation |
| Am I the only person who likes Gargantia more without Amy? |
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| next episode Ledo vs. Kugel fight callin' it |
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| Well, shit's about to go down now with them targeting Gargantia. |
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| Oh hey, the pirate queen exists. Look at that. |
SolBlade said: Am I the only person who likes Gargantia more without Amy? You're not alone :) |
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Xodianify said: Well beyond the concept of emancipation and carving one's own destiny in life, Gargantia has presented the three parts of Freud's psychic apparatus; The Id, The Ego and The Superego. - The Alliance represents the Superego; The concept of perfection through structural and cultural upbringing which lays its foundation upon set ideals that reject base instincts. However, in rejecting those instincts, we reject a core part of our own selves and become slaves to an ideal rather than that ideal serving our individual purposes. - The Hideozu represent the Id; The base instincts... The monsters under the bed... The animal in us all. Hideozu work only on desires and wants and care not for long term repercussions of such actions. While living in such a state can be liberating, its obvious that negating personal responsibilities for pleasure leads towards disastrous results. - The people of Gargantia represent the Ego; They seek to please the Id in a realistic manner; By living in a state which allows them to prosper as well create a harmonious system with other living things. lol wut. I think you are over-analyzing this anime. This isn't Evangelion or Ergo Proxy. |
| This was a nice episode. I feel like something bad is gonna happen soon....not just about Gargantia but more like Ledo and his captain. |
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| The cult symbol remind me of this Slightly different but its very similar. First time I saw Ledo smile during the time He left those Pinion xD |
| Great episode. Lot's of revelations. They've done very well with Ledo's characterization: he is still conflicted, not swaying too far in any one direction. Favorite moment was when Chamber agreed with the analysis and Ledo was like: "You do?" Obviously he is beginning to question everything, even his reliance on Chamber. Really looking forward to the finale, though I don't see how they'll wrap it all up without another season... |
| Let's go bowling. |
| 5/5 For now I just say that I liked the episode! XD |
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| so the cult is like the borg? they assimilate everyone and throw away what is not needed? |
silver_huskey said: [img]http://www.theicecave.org/temp/gargantia-ep1-Kugel06.jpg[img] Here is the complete conversation, hidden under the spoiler button so the other users don't get a large image dump: Yay now i dont have to look back at episode 1. I def thought what he said to Ledo was kinda weird. With all the stuff that happen and said in this episode kinda makes me wonder when the Ledo vs Kugel(?) actually happen, when Ledo beats or sacrifice himself to beat Kugel(?); will the cult run like a bunch headless chickens after seeing their so called "divine being" destroyed? |
Brigs77Jun 18, 2013 12:31 PM
Hydnlife said: so the cult is like the borg? they assimilate everyone and throw away what is not needed? Pretty much! |
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| not a troll, but i must say that the only good episodes from this anime is only episode 1,2, and 9 :'( There are lots of development and we learn something new again. but... the execution makes it sooo boring. Urobuchi will be the writer for next episode right? I hope suddenly it becomes mindblowing. |
millo said: not a troll, but i must say that the only good episodes from this anime is only episode 1,2, and 9 :'( There are lots of development and we learn something new again. but... the execution makes it sooo boring. Urobuchi will be the writer for next episode right? I hope suddenly it becomes mindblowing. I completely agree. |
Zeally said: lol wut. I think you are over-analyzing this anime. This isn't Evangelion or Ergo Proxy. Says who? Keep in mind that this anime was made by the creators of Psycho Pass and there is a lot of content worth discussing in that anime. The content of an anime means different things to different people but from my experience with watching anime in general I have see that quite a lot of them openly present scenarios and topics that a lot of other media forms tend to shy away from; Either because of the complexity of the issue or because of controversial reasons. That is why I love watching anime. |
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| Well it's been made incredibly clear where the conflict in this show is coming from. While Ledo has spent plenty of time outside of Chamber, mingling and understanding the Earthlings; Kugel is pure Galactic Alliance. I have no idea what virus he could've contracted, but I see he hasn't soaked in any of the world around him. It's pretty sad. I'd like to see a peaceful conclusion, but with all these guns being brandished, and two all powerful mechs now in the serie, I doubt we'll get that conclusion. Also, who knew Pinion would be so level headed and useful near the end of the series?  Oh and that entrance was amazing. |
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| I am really interested in this development. Kugel wants to instill terror to people, and to do that he intends to destroy Gargantia! Damn. I wonder what will Ledo do now... and Pinion will sure learn the technology to create robots. Really excited on how will this show end. |
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| Whoa, Kugel was practically running a communist regime in his fleet. Complete with a cult of "personality" around his Machine Caliber, Striker. Never thought the Galactic Alliance of Humanity subscribed to the tenets of the reds, but it does kinda make sense now seeing as it has always exhorted work and personal sacrifice for the greater good to the extremes. I knew they had a utilitarian society and totalitarian government, but I thought they'd be more of the right-wing type. Anyway, this is setting up for some major conflict with Ledo going to have to "preach" to his former colleagues and friends on the Gargantia, his first home on Earth. As a soldier, firmly opposing his superior would constitute insubordination, and being the lifelong soldier that he is would be a major inner conflict for him. Not to mention Chamber is hard-wired (or hard-coded, if you prefer) to reinforce the propaganda of the Galactic Alliance on its pilots, so he can't count on his Machine Caliber for help either, if he has to resist following orders. Now I see where this anime is going with the story. They wanted to setup society as it is known on Gargantia as the "third way" to promote coexistence between the conflicting philosophies and politics of the Galactic Alliance and the Hideauze. Basically, they stand for coexistence instead of all-out genocide over the difference in beliefs of the other. |
| So it's finally come to the crux of the story. The choice. Your loyalty to your commander and all that you have been brought up to believe is right, or Gargantia and all that it represents. The easier option would be the former, but events would push him towards the latter. Both sides would not just want but expect Ledo to support them. |
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kuuderes_shadow said: So it's finally come to the crux of the story. The choice. Your loyalty to your commander and all that you have been brought up to believe is right, or Gargantia and all that it represents. The easier option would be the former, but events would push him towards the latter. Both sides would not just want but expect Ledo to support them. ^Well said. Interesting, how this will turn out. |
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| Got round to catching with this series, 4 episodes back to back, showed just how much the series changed and very quickly might I add, it has attained the thrill it had back in the first few episodes. However, with the current situation looking like it will turn very sour soon, I am wondering how they will be able to come to a conclusion in the last 2 episodes, suggesting the battle will not be a long one but quite possibly end up with Ledo doing something akin to a kamikaze, since the Striker model for Kugel most probably is a superior model to Ledo's Chamber. Damn, Rackage's entrance in episode 11 was kinda funny and odd, she obviously is living under fear with Kugel as the main honcho around. I reckon next episode will be a blast. |
| What the... So Kugel is creating a communist paradise? What the bloody hell! Wow... Hope this ends well, only 2 more episodes to go SayakaMagica said: Whoa, Kugel was practically running a communist regime in his fleet. Complete with a cult of "personality" around his Machine Caliber, Striker. Never thought the Galactic Alliance of Humanity subscribed to the tenets of the reds, but it does kinda make sense now seeing as it has always exhorted work and personal sacrifice for the greater good to the extremes. I knew they had a utilitarian society and totalitarian government, but I thought they'd be more of the right-wing type. Anyway, this is setting up for some major conflict with Ledo going to have to "preach" to his former colleagues and friends on the Gargantia, his first home on Earth. As a soldier, firmly opposing his superior would constitute insubordination, and being the lifelong soldier that he is would be a major inner conflict for him. Not to mention Chamber is hard-wired (or hard-coded, if you prefer) to reinforce the propaganda of the Galactic Alliance on its pilots, so he can't count on his Machine Caliber for help either, if he has to resist following orders. Now I see where this anime is going with the story. They wanted to setup society as it is known on Gargantia as the "third way" to promote coexistence between the conflicting philosophies and politics of the Galactic Alliance and the Hideauze. Basically, they stand for coexistence instead of all-out genocide over the difference in beliefs of the other. summed my thoughts up pretty well, the series is, however, badly paced. A lot of the episodes are very slow and kind of lack the incentive to view the next episode, which is why I pretty much stopped watching it in episode 7, then resumed it... Howwever, the overall structure of the plot can be seen, the show is well-down, and if you marathon through it, its excellent. Mod Edit: Please do not double post. |
LunaJun 25, 2013 9:13 AM
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huehue93 said:  I found this image someone posted, its hilarious, just thought i would share. That is just cruel, LOL |
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| Pretty stupid episode if you ask me. This just felt stupid, silly and way too predictable. What happened to the truly clever stories that I know Urobutcher for lol? |
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| 2 more episodes... There are a lot of ways this could end, I wonder how? But the pace of the story is way too slow, though this is definitely one of the top mecha series that I have watched. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| QUALITY episode |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
JeffreyZin said: Since when Commander Kugel aging so quickly?! His facial hair got grown now I mean did we just saw the 1st episode that he looks kinda younger? Uh... I am very sure that's because the time has passed by 6 months after Ledo crash-landed? He probably used that time to create his cult of personality society |
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codydang said: When Kugel pointed out Gargantia to Ledo, I whispered, 'fuck no......" It's the only sacred thing left....I'm so stressed out!! Pretty much... A paradise of freedom, where everything else is toltalitarian and miserable. Since he is the commander, he has the authority to make Chamber obey, as well as having a possibly superior weapon... but who knows? The fact that chamber asked for a scan of the medical condition was interesting, maybe it would be used against him later. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
GodlyKyon said: codydang said: When Kugel pointed out Gargantia to Ledo, I whispered, 'fuck no......" It's the only sacred thing left....I'm so stressed out!! Pretty much... A paradise of freedom, where everything else is toltalitarian and miserable. Since he is the commander, he has the authority to make Chamber obey, as well as having a possibly superior weapon... but who knows? The fact that chamber asked for a scan of the medical condition was interesting, maybe it would be used against him later. Or maybe his hunch is true and Kugel is actually dead inside. |
| Man, I really don't like the look of that place. Really seems like some sort of cult. Even Rackage joined them. As far as the cliffhanger goes: I knew that was going to happen eventually. He'll have to attack the fleet he lived on and Amy still lives on: Gargantia. The question now is: will he attack them (not likely), or will he mutiny? |
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| Well the line has been drawn now, I have a feeling that this is going to get very ugly. |
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i had a feeling link was apart of this strange new tribe man thats savage if they take over Gargantia, very curious of how this series will wrap up, or if a season 2 will just happen. |
| I have a feeling Kugel might not be alive. Very strange that he lied about the disease and won't show himself to Ledo. Not looking forward to the confrontation with Gargantia, I hope Ledo chooses the right side. |
| I'm not sure if anyone noticed this but I think that the art is really bad in this episode! I'm a huge fan of Suisei no Gargantia and I watched it since it first aired but I was shocked with this episode, no problems with the plot but the art really put me off since it was so gorgeous in the first episodes so I expected nothing less than top notch animation :/ I hope the remaining two episodes don't disappoint me like this one :( |
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| He's going back to Gargantia! This time as a hostile perhaps? Either way lets see what happens next! |
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| Creepy cult vibes... |
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