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itsvero said: AoiMizu said: Look like Shinsekai yori's Queerat...a breed between human and rat/guinea pig! Shit, I was thinking the whole Hideauze thing seemed familiar - it's very similar to the queerats! Now I'm just wondering if the Hideauze are still intelligent or not, because that'd change a lot in my eyes. Right now I can't see them as human. Wow, I never even thought of that similarity. Now that I think about it, that's just really amazing. They both had equal shock value for me. |
| This episode was informative. Not epic nor touchy-feely in any manner, but interesting nonetheless. Turns out the Hideauze are actually humans made to live in space! Well that's really going to throw Ledo into an emotional turmoil. I wonder if there's any procedure Chamber has to follow when someone finds out the truth. Possibly sedation or something along the lines. I wonder what Ledo's going to do now. Also, who is that black haired chick? Where did she come from? Why is it that all the girls in this anime are portrayed with vibrant wonderful colors even if we don't know their name but most of the guys are all puny-eyed and appear plain other than the main character ones? As for Pinion's part, that was ridiculous and unnecessary. I know they're trying to add depth to his character, but suddenly giving him a brother and revenge motive isn't going to cut it. If he was actually out for vengeance, he would have been doing it way before Ledo came along. He never seemed to have a care in the world about anything let alone some dead brother until an episode or two ago. Their story-telling tactics are horrible overall as well. They tell more than show, and when they are showing, they're doing it very obviously. It almost makes it seem like we have to wait through each display of show and tell before we get some action- as if this is some sort of talent show instead of an anime that was so highly praised a month ago. |
SpiraiJun 2, 2013 1:35 PM
tingy said: Just in case there are people here who haven't watched SSY and may want to watch it later, I think you should put that in a spoiler :) At least for me what made SSY so great was that twist you mentioned. I don't think it's a new anime trend, not that I've watched that much anyways, but the fight between the Evolvers and the Alliance reminded me of the fight between the Coordinators and the Naturals in Gundam Seed, except in this case, the Evolvers, or I guess Hideauze/whalesquids, no longer resemble humans. Well, human once try to improve themselves but when they success, they got envy and jealous over the experiment human and start to hate and deny them. That what happen in Gundam. In SSY, |
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| Wow, great episode. As other people have mentioned. Very similar to SSY |
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| Did Ledo wanna talk to squid chick before Chamber squished ha ha and really squid spaceship suit? love this episode |
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| Well, that was unexpected.. |
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| Damnit Urobutcher, I thought you'd change. |
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| Oh my gosh. OH my gosh. >Ledo's been killing humans. >Amy crying to the music... This episode totally just killed me the plot twist!! |
| Well, I doubt anyone could have seen this coming. This show really can take the viewers by surprise. |
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Pesti13nce said: Blazingluke said: In the next episode... I keep squinting at these images and they don't get any clearer, lol. Ledo becomes more surprised, Ridget contemplates something, Melty meets with Crown about something, Amy's upset, Pinion quits the sauce. Just enough of a preview to give you something to look forward to! (Just 164 hours to go!) |
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Blazingluke said: Pesti13nce said: Blazingluke said: In the next episode... I keep squinting at these images and they don't get any clearer, lol. Ledo becomes more surprised, Ridget contemplates something, Melty meets with Crown about something, Amy's upset, Pinion quits the sauce. Just enough of a preview to give you something to look forward to! (Just 164 hours to go!) Hmmm...look like Ledo got problem then trap inside that ruin...Ridget...dunno. Melty inform the Crown about Ledo MIA. Amy got the news and cry over it as she thought that Ledo died. Pinion pour the beer or whiskey as offering to dead people like his brother and maybe Ledo.... Just my conclusion..... What happen to Ledo in next episode?! Dun-dun-DUN-duunnn-duunnnnn~ urobuchi in action now....prepare for massacre! LOL |
AoiMizuJun 2, 2013 2:00 PM
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skudoops said: Chamber is just a robot and ledo controls it so he's ultimately responsible for her death. No. Chamber has the ability to move on its own independent of Ledo, which should be clear by now. Ledo clearly didn't want to kill that whalesquid -- he screamed no, and he was too in shock to even move by that point. It was actually pretty obvious that Chamber was the one who did it. But wow. Immense mindf*** right here. So the Hideous are all human beings evolved to fit their environment. Those on Earth remained weak because there was little competition, but those in space obviously evolved to suit a combat environment. I'm guessing the Human Galactic Alliance was an extension of those individuals in the video who opposed Evolvers in the first place, and the information they've been deliberately feeding their people is false. What a twist. Someone might've guessed it in a wild shot in a barrel but this definitely came out of the left field. Now, of course the question is how much intelligence they have retained since their evolution. So far it looks like the Hideous are quite intelligent by their mode of movement and coordination, but it's also clear they can't exactly speak anymore, so yeah. |
| I expected a twist and the Hideauze being somehow connected to humankind, but never them having once been humans themselves. Mind blown. The lack of Bellows was disturbing though. |
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| The moment the video started playing I said to myself "100$ MUTATED HUMAN ARE ACTUALLY THE HIDEAUZE" I'm so good at predicting stuff in anime :) na just forget what I just said, the moment I saw the "larvas" I knew what the twist was gonna be, one the "larvas" looked like a human baby... |
ValaskjalfJun 2, 2013 2:08 PM
Marzan said: The lack of Bellows was disturbing though. I don't understand why the hell Ledo turned his hysteria mode on. Hideauze are bio-engineered abominations. Basically the Zerg-Terran hybrid. What does he expect? A play of chess with tea and biscuits with them? |
| Mind blown... That was...wow. I didn't expect that. I feel sorry for Ledo. |
| Wow i didnt know but this anime became much better i hope for an epic end |
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Arqentum said: Marzan said: The lack of Bellows was disturbing though. I don't understand why the hell Ledo turned his hysteria mode on. Hideauze are bio-engineered abominations. Basically the Zerg-Terran hybrid. What does he expect? A play of chess with tea and biscuits with them? Maybe because it looked like squid that was transformed girl that looked like Amy. |
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Colascka said: Arqentum said: Marzan said: The lack of Bellows was disturbing though. I don't understand why the hell Ledo turned his hysteria mode on. Hideauze are bio-engineered abominations. Basically the Zerg-Terran hybrid. What does he expect? A play of chess with tea and biscuits with them? Are you listen what it was said? Hideuze are evolved humans. But in the other hand it brings the question, because he didn`t hesitate while whiping pirates out, but started crack up because he realize he killed many squids, which are probably part of humans or just that baby squid which Chamber killed (or the infromation about it was shocked enough for him, while Alliance didn`t etll whole true about conflict) Er ... did you? Hideauze are bio-engineered - forcibly-evolved humans. If a human in front of you would became a non-speaking squid - will you still think of him as 'ningen'? I guess not. bastek66 said: Maybe because it looked like squid that was transformed girl that looked like Amy. So it was OK to kill (well he really wanted to) that pirate queen, but not OK to kill squidefied teen girl that looks alike to someone he knows? What a hypocrite. |
| There you go. What a mind fuck it was. Someone wrote that the jellyfish are not bad. So also seems to me, and even I am convinced that at the end of the series-generally turns out that being a jellyfish is a higher form of evolution and would have been nice if everyone was jellyfish hahaha |
Pesti13nce said: Yes I did. I felt bad for Ledo when he screamed in agony and rage.Did anyone else's heart sink a little when chamber did what he did at the end, with the humanoid looking one? |
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| Let's be honest, no one saw that coming. I'm assuming that the time travel theory is still yet to be proven false/is this still real time? |
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Arqentum said: So it was OK to kill (well he really wanted to) that pirate queen, but not OK to kill squidefied teen girl that looks alike to someone he knows? What a hypocrite. Well, the pirate queen attacked them, just for the fun of it, while the squidefied girl did nothing even after he destroyed most of her colony., so I wouldn't call him an hypocrite. |
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| I don't think it's strange that Ledo hesitated to kill that hidiauze girl. Since the beginning of the series, he's been thrown from his very goal-directed, efficient and rational civilisation into the culture shock of an emotional and inefficient tribal society who have probably shown him for the first time that life doesn't have to be about meeting objectives, and to see value in the imperfect, even though he couldn't really accept what they were telling him. And then he finds out that his whole existence might be based on lies. That leaves him with a moment of doubt. |
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| wow.. curious to see what Ledo will do next week. |
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| Wow the "experimented human" twist seems so "been there, done that". |
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bastek66 said: Pinion's brother still there Wow I didn't notice that. Kinda disturbing. |
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| TWWWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Just so I understand: 1. World is about to be flooded due to all the ice 2. They make squid people who can live in space 3. Other countries and people against it attack them 4. Some Squid people escape with warp "which was destroyed" 5. The Squid people that warped are at war with Ledo's people. |
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| Things have indeed escalated quickly. Not surprised the Hideauze were connected humans let alone were humans. Looking to see how Ledo will handle the situation now, especially since he killed many of them, and that one girl Hide that was harmless. |
Num1dad_Asura said: Wow the "experimented human" twist seems so "been there, done that". God, I know. Exactly how I felt. And then when the music like intensified when they showed squidman's face in space I was just like OH WHAT A TWEEST |
Chxistine said: Let's be honest, no one saw that coming. I'm assuming that the time travel theory is still yet to be proven false/is this still real time? I think this pretty much debunks it, although I suppose it is still a possibility, it looks very unlikely atm though. |
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Colascka said: Forcibly? As I can remember Mtsumoto guy volunteered to do this to him so others, there were no force beside that human had to adapt to space conditions. Despite beeing a squids, their orgins still lying into human race. As for lady Lukkage- I don`t quite sure if she is dead, but I assume that she is in the end. The only difference is that actually baby squid didn`t attack him, like lady Lukkage tried to attack Gargantia. Imagine that you personally have two paths to survive: Space Colony or turn into jellyfish. What will you choose? And you really believe they were not forced? And you did not answer previous question: If a human in front of you would became a non-speaking squid - will you still think of him as 'ningen'? Will you care a single bit about 'human origin' ? Your second question will be answered below. jose21 said: Arqentum said: So it was OK to kill (well he really wanted to) that pirate queen, but not OK to kill squidefied teen girl that looks alike to someone he knows? What a hypocrite. Well, the pirate queen attacked them, just for the fun of it, while the squidefied girl did nothing even after he destroyed most of her colony., so I wouldn't call him an hypocrite. Nor pirates nor pirate queen attacked them to kill. It was discussed even by ex-captain of Gargantia. Hideauze on the other hand ... Not that squid-girl did not do anything. It looked more like she couldn't do anything to begin with (or was not fast enough). Matters not. 'Twas a Kill or Die battlefield. p.s. There is a high probability that the whole 'Evolver' project was created by Space Colony to fully control/unite humans against one enemy. sunshine_sakura said: Since the beginning of the series, he's been thrown from his very goal-directed, efficient and rational civilisation into the culture shock of an emotional and inefficient tribal society who have probably shown him for the first time that life doesn't have to be about meeting objectives, and to see value in the imperfect, even though he couldn't really accept what they were telling him. And then he finds out that his whole existence might be based on lies. That leaves him with a moment of doubt. Good point. |
ArqentumJun 2, 2013 3:36 PM
| Dat little hideauze was kinda cute :C |
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leeo268 said: Meh, they shared common ancestor with human, but they are not human. I mean we human wipe out all our cousin species many thousands years ago to survive. Won't surprise me if we did it again, but I would have expected the Hidezu to win overwhelming with their genetic advantage. I guess they fail because they abandon their technology to become more zerg like. Also, we are already in an ice age period since 2.5 millions year ago or Greenland and Antarctica won't be frozen. Fortunately, we are in a warm period of ice age call Interglacials, which is expected to last another 50,000 years. Even if we did enter the cold period, gracials, the ice will only reach far as North Germany or near Ohio in US. What you said was really cool and informative. Also, I'm kind of tired of the-enemy-species-is-a-human plot twist as I've noticed this within several anime series already... |
Dimitrit said: Dat little hideauze was kinda cute :C Till it hit its faggot face on Ledo's windshield. |
AoiMizu said: Shinsekai Yori... Suisei no Gargantia....=Hideauze is half human and half nano-machine that look alike squid Shingeki no Kyojin.....=human mutation..... New anime trend?? Human revolution?? noticed that too dunno if it's a trend which is going to continue, but for this season alone it seems to be a trend xD |
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| I love chamber, still putting in work while Ledo's conflicted. So we finally found out chamber has a limited supply of energy, after all that dicking around with it I thought we're never going to know if this thing was limited. So is he able to recharge it, I think he used up 53% on his little killing spree this episode. |
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| I wasn't expecting that twist... Well it looks like a lot of time has passed since the events in the video and now the squidhumans have evolved into the Hideauze, essentially losing most of their humanity. Looks like both sides ended up being pretty bad. |
Vodkas said: I love chamber, still putting in work while Ledo's conflicted. So we finally found out chamber has a limited supply of energy, after all that dicking around with it I thought we're never going to know if this thing was limited. So is he able to recharge it, I think he used up 53% on his little killing spree this episode. Considering solar radiation is a very raw form of energy and Chamber's are meant to fight in space, I'd imagine he's solar powered. Or at least I'd imagine it's one of many ways for Chamber to regain charge. |
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