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Dec 18, 2008 1:38 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Finally we get to the exciting conclusion of the Michiko's arc.

First we get a cute little backstory with Hiroshi and Michiko, 12 years younger, showing the little events that made him decide he wants to spend the rest of his life with her. Unfortunately, he had to tell Satoshi, his partner in crime that we've seen in those flashbacks and photos in the previous episodes, that he wants to quit the Monstro gang. Well, we all know what happens to those that decide to bleed Kool-Aid. A bomb gets planted on the bus and someone drops a dime on Michiko.

Present day, Satoshi has a score to settle with a retired OG named Manabe that humiliated him back when he was just a street punk with big dreams. Using his family as hostages, Satoshi forces Manabe to mule Michiko from Shinusuke over to his own house in an attempt to further ensure there's no sting operation against him. Unfortunately, one of Atsuko's subordinates bugged the phone she uses to communicate with Satoshi, and he uses the new information to set up another sting himself behind her back.

Manabe did as he was told, only to learn that his family has been killed anyways. Their only sin was making Satoshi chuckle a little, just like when Manabe used to threaten him with death if he made him laugh at him. Manabe, striken with grief, charges at Satoshi who simply guns him down, like he intended to do all along.

Satoshi then turns his attention to Michiko who finally asks him where Hiroshi is. At first he tells her forcefully that Hiroshi is dead, he has seen the charred body himself. But after being threatened by a gun Shinusuke planted on Michiko because he was pissed off that Satoshi would make him go through all that work for nothing, he finally admits he doesn't know exactly where Hiroshi is either.

Atsuko shows up thinking it was just her, Satoshi and her subordinate, but she gets a surprise sting she didn't ask for. Her subordinate got tired of covering her shady operations, so he decided to take things into his own hands. But both Satoshi and Michiko were cagy enough to escape in Manabe's corn field. A cross-bow wielding Atsuko finally catches up with Michiko, looking pathetic pointing an obviously empty gun at her and pleading to be let go. This was not the firey, trashtalking, ass-kicking Michiko that Atsuko wanted to arrest, and besides if she did, the credit would go to her backstabbing No. 2, so she lets her go out of spite.

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Jesus, how the hell does Michiko keep such a pretty face if she gets slapped around all the time? Anyways, the real Satoshi was a real contrast to that fake Davi - simply a total smooth operator that is ice-cold and doesn't intimidate easily. I think the one thing I count against him is his strange obsession with crotch hair (as if that is all that makes you a man). I guess having Hatchin around really changed Michiko, where in the past she would drink a cyanide colada before begging anyone for anything. But now she'll do anything to get back to her. Is this the part where she becomes humanized? Stay tooned . . .
Dec 22, 2008 10:26 AM
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That was intense. Great ep.
Dec 22, 2008 11:30 AM
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More backstory and context, nothing to really push the story forward though, and a lot of recycled lines. just ok for me.
Dec 22, 2008 12:34 PM
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That was really good.
But damn... I hate Satishi. He's not even cool or something. He's just an asshole.
Dec 23, 2008 1:56 AM
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Michiko was beaten pretty badly.

That officer lady has done a lot of effort to try to capture michiko when she finally captured her she let her go -.-
Dec 23, 2008 4:16 AM
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Diarrhea, what a cute name for a town...
Dec 23, 2008 1:42 PM
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Average episode, it's just not very interesting when there's no Hatchin. Dissapointing direction and developments once again, this series should have been directed by Watanabe, it would have been MUCH better than this.

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pretty nice ep imo.....feels like a kind of turning point in the series (at least i hope so).... :)
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Dec 25, 2008 6:43 PM
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People complain when there's no Hatchin, people complain when there's no Mitchiko... I dunno...

Another fantastic episode that had me on suspense the whole time. Now the long wait for episode 11 :/.
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Dec 25, 2008 9:29 PM

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Best ep so far. The series has just begun to shine for me.

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People complain when there's no Hatchin, people complain when there's no Mitchiko... I dunno...


Exactly. Just appreciate each character for her strengths and weaknesses. In fact, having them apart makes for more interesting episodes.
Dec 26, 2008 12:31 PM

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I love the taking-photo part and happy Michiko with Hiroshi. I wonder how Hatchin & Michiko will meet again.
Dec 26, 2008 5:08 PM

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lol that turned out a bit too perfectly didn't it? haha well its nearly half way though.
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hikaru-ru said:
Siing said:
People complain when there's no Hatchin, people complain when there's no Mitchiko... I dunno...


Exactly. Just appreciate each character for her strengths and weaknesses. In fact, having them apart makes for more interesting episodes.
Well, the show is called Michiko & Hatchin.
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kuroshiroi said:
hikaru-ru said:
Siing said:
People complain when there's no Hatchin, people complain when there's no Mitchiko... I dunno...


Exactly. Just appreciate each character for her strengths and weaknesses. In fact, having them apart makes for more interesting episodes.
Well, the show is called Michiko & Hatchin.


Yes, but by being apart they develop more, I dunno how to explain it, and well, it's a refreshing thing. Of course, they'll eventually get back together. :)
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I have to say that I am glad that I stuck with this series. It has turned out to get better as it goes on. Even though this was only a so so episode.
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I have to say that I am glad that I stuck with this series. It has turned out to get better as it goes on. Even though this was only a so so episode.
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Intense, twisted episode. And the music keeps starting to play at the right moments. Good stuff.

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When is episode 11 coming out? Do all the series in Japan take time off around the new year?
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it was funny when manabe went ape shit when he realized his family was dead lol im know im not suppose to laugh at that it was a funny reaction
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Haha, I didn't get the hint that his family was dead. Satoshi is insane lol, but he is definitely goal-driven. Very intense episode, I liked it. Atsuko's nicer than I thought. Haha.

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Yes, but by being apart they develop more, I dunno how to explain it, and well, it's a refreshing thing. Of course, they'll eventually get back together. :)

I agree with that. This show is called Michiko & Hatchin but dude, what kinda story will it be if theyre together 24/7? I agree, some away distance is good. Now it makes me wonder what's gonna happen when they're together, and on top of that, where they will meet and whatnot.



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I keep waiting for this anime to have a bad episode...and it doesn't.
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Holy hell, that was perfect. This episode left me speechless. Perfect music, perfect voice acting, perfect settings, perfect action, perfect storyline, perfect dialogue...christ, it had everything.

This is the kind of episode I think we've all been waiting for. The best yet.
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I loved the first bit of this episode. I found him a tad hot as well <3
Nooo...he can't be dead.....:( :( :'(
Oh wait hes not! horray!!!
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So he's not dead after all.
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Fantastic episode.
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I keep waiting for this anime to have a bad episode...and it doesn't.

I'm pumped, I'm excited. Too amazing.
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Kokujin-kun said:
Manabe, striken with grief, charges at Satoshi who simply guns him down, like he intended to do all along.
Do I have the censored version or something because this didn't happen for me..? I just saw Satoshi throwing the cigarette then he and Manabe looked at each-other, then suddenly Manabe was on the ground dead..

Maybe it's supposed to be that way. Pretty neat.
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Well, at least the ambiguity about whether Hiroshi died in the bus explosion has been cleared up.

Decent episode though, much better than the last few.
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Satoshi Batista reminds me so much of Li'l Zé from City of God.
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Oomyung said:
Satoshi Batista reminds me so much of Li'l Zé from City of God.


Yeah I thought this too, a lot of the characters in this anime share resemblances to characters from City of God.
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This series is finally starting to grow on me...
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To bad they didn't show the family being killed or show the bodies clearly. Michiko is badass, but she hasn't been shown to kill anyone yet. It even looks like their are other bad ass characters that confronts Michiko (pepe, wife etc...), but Michiko does not fight back because she knows its their daily living and its morally wrong (lol but she a thief).
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Michiko was beaten pretty badly.

That officer lady has done a lot of effort to try to capture michiko when she finally captured her she let her go -.-
Michiko has escape many times before and always been arrested by Atsuko, but this time was different. Michiko was serious about something and because of their past relationship as orphans (like sisters). She allow Michiko to leave. I bet she knows Michiko is a good person at heart.

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one of the better episodes, nice amount of action.. yet more backstory on michiko & whats his name xD.. i hope now that the momentum keeps going... but my guess is the next episode is going to switch back to hatchin? therefore i have a feeling the momentum will shift again?
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man that was great . I felt tense throughout the episode. but people like Satoshi who cant let his friends have their own happiness is really the crappiest people.

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to make this note short im glad we got some background info on hiroshi he seems really nice and it seems like he's weak but has a backbone when he needs it like hana
Mar 16, 2013 7:46 AM

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Not bad, but well we still don't know if he's actually alive or not... good development though that ending sure was nice!
Mar 21, 2013 12:04 PM

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Well that was not a meeting I expected o.o I actually thought that Michiko and Satoshi were more like friends. I understand that this could have changed after Hiroshi chose her and Satoshi had to pick up the decision of killing his best friend. But at the moment he allows to beat her up, and then he's doing it himself I was shocked.
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Wow what an episode
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Kokujin-kun said:
Manabe did as he was told, only to learn that his family has been killed anyways. Their only sin was making Satoshi chuckle a little, just like when Manabe used to threaten him with death if he made him laugh at him. Manabe, striken with grief, charges at Satoshi who simply guns him down, like he intended to do all along.

When did this happen? And Manabe threatened to kill Satoshi if he failed to make him laugh.

My impression of Manabe's grunting and sweating after Satoshi told him to make him laugh was that he was trying to shit himself to give Satoshi what he wanted....but then he is shot and ends up on the floor between cuts?

This isn't the first time the visual narrative has been so confusing, either.
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Great episode the beginning scene with Hiroshi and Michiko was cute and the part with him making the eggs and the shell was just like Hatchin, that scene made me grin ear to ear.

Why did they cut out the scene before Manabe's death? I checked the subbed and dubbed versions and it was the same :(

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Manabe did as he was told, only to learn that his family has been killed anyways. Their only sin was making Satoshi chuckle a little, just like when Manabe used to threaten him with death if he made him laugh at him. Manabe, striken with grief, charges at Satoshi who simply guns him down, like he intended to do all along.


Kokujin-kun where the heck did you get your info, there isn't even a manga for this anime so how did you come to that conclusion? Not only did Satoshi never actually say he killed Manabe's family (I'm under the belief the let them go), but they cut out the scene of Manabe's death!
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Okay . . . So why was Satoshi all alone? I would think that some head honcho would bring a few body guards with him if he was going to be making a deal with cops . . . Just saying.
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Damn Satoshi is ruthless. Shinsuke has a loose screw too XD. Good episode

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that was intense O.o
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Okay . . . So why was Satoshi all alone? I would think that some head honcho would bring a few body guards with him if he was going to be making a deal with cops . . . Just saying.

I was wondering about this too. I get that he wants to deal with Michiko himself but you'd think he'll have a few lackeys standing guard.
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I'm confused as fuck. I mean was that flash of the lights going black for a mini second meant to mean Satoshi blacks out whenever he goes violent? What happened to the kid and mother? Why does it seem like some people on this thread saw him kill him in mid rush and dialogue about supposedly killing the family while others, like me, seemed to have not seen this and just have it pan to the dude dead on the floor?
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Fronzel said:
Kokujin-kun said:
Manabe did as he was told, only to learn that his family has been killed anyways. Their only sin was making Satoshi chuckle a little, just like when Manabe used to threaten him with death if he made him laugh at him. Manabe, striken with grief, charges at Satoshi who simply guns him down, like he intended to do all along.

When did this happen? And Manabe threatened to kill Satoshi if he failed to make him laugh.

My impression of Manabe's grunting and sweating after Satoshi told him to make him laugh was that he was trying to shit himself to give Satoshi what he wanted....but then he is shot and ends up on the floor between cuts?

This isn't the first time the visual narrative has been so confusing, either.


Is it really that hard to see that Satoshi killed off Manabe and his family? It doesn't have to be as clear as fuck tbh. For the time being, it's hinted that Satoshi did it because who else then? I highly doubt if it was someone else. I mean look what happened to Pepe Lima in episode 4. What happened to her and specifically her little sister? It was just ended abruptly with the kids gunned Lima. A conclusion can be made that they're as good as dead. It is the show's style meant to be vague. That's that.
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Nice episode overall, the music is great it's one of my favorite things about the series.
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This was tense. I wonder how the Satoshi/Shinsuke rivalry will end.
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Good episode
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Impala said:
Fronzel said:

When did this happen? And Manabe threatened to kill Satoshi if he failed to make him laugh.

My impression of Manabe's grunting and sweating after Satoshi told him to make him laugh was that he was trying to shit himself to give Satoshi what he wanted....but then he is shot and ends up on the floor between cuts?

This isn't the first time the visual narrative has been so confusing, either.


Is it really that hard to see that Satoshi killed off Manabe and his family? It doesn't have to be as clear as fuck tbh. For the time being, it's hinted that Satoshi did it because who else then? I highly doubt if it was someone else. I mean look what happened to Pepe Lima in episode 4. What happened to her and specifically her little sister? It was just ended abruptly with the kids gunned Lima. A conclusion can be made that they're as good as dead. It is the show's style meant to be vague. That's that.


Only difference is its clear they were killed in ep 4. This was just horribly pulled off with bad editing.
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