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Mar 9, 2013 5:56 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Poor Kud ;.;

Well, nice to see a little more of her history. She's so kawaiii during her childhood imo. So ya, episode was a little moody not to mention some brief visions I think that Riki saw.

Kud's tears ;.;

From the preview, there's going to be the chain scene?!
Mar 9, 2013 6:19 AM
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So they'll finally end her arc on the next episode. I thought they're going to end it on this episode.


Mar 9, 2013 7:32 AM
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Mar 9, 2013 7:35 AM
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Wow... This episode is actually really well done. I LOVED the hints to the Secret of the world in this ep. Especially with him trying to call Haruka and the scene with Kyousuke. I think the show is beginning to become A LOT more mysterious now with this.
Mar 9, 2013 7:36 AM
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zakkun89 said:
http://i.imgur.com/hTIycvK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ldEJsfD.jpg

Kanata's ahoge have magic or what ?


JC Staff mistakes are always inevitable.


Mar 9, 2013 7:42 AM
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This is my favorite Kud's episode so far. I thought that I wouldn't like this episode because I believed that this episode would just be about sending Kud back but they managed to incorporate more hints and foreshadowing.

I have a comment about the Kyousuke and Kud scene but I'll refrain until I see the subs XD;;



And another thing. They need to stop overusing Unused Track 3. I'm fine if they occasionally used this track but I feel like I'm hearing this track in every 2 episodes =__=;; There are other tracks that can be used during a particular scene. Seriously, I will make a list of the OSTs used in this season if I have to.. Oh well, I want that instrumental of Song for Friends though XD;;
Mar 9, 2013 7:42 AM
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Sa-chan_ said:
zakkun89 said:
http://i.imgur.com/hTIycvK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ldEJsfD.jpg

Kanata's ahoge have magic or what ?


JC Staff mistakes are always inevitable.


But her ahoge literally move from left to right....It's like they didn't even rewatch the episode after making it o.o
Mar 9, 2013 7:44 AM
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zakkun89 said:
Sa-chan_ said:
zakkun89 said:
http://i.imgur.com/hTIycvK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ldEJsfD.jpg

Kanata's ahoge have magic or what ?


JC Staff mistakes are always inevitable.


But her ahoge literally move from left to right....It's like they didn't even rewatch the episode after making it o.o


Well, they have always some stupid issues like Kud's "magic shoes".

Most likely they'll fix the "magic ahoge" on the BDs.


Mar 9, 2013 7:45 AM
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At least the question from Kyousuke is really easy to read through: "Have you recalled everything?" And on top of that those flashbacks
Mar 9, 2013 7:45 AM

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Seano299 said:
Wow... This episode is actually really well done. I LOVED the hints to the Secret of the world in this ep. Especially with him trying to call Haruka and the scene with Kyousuke. I think the show is beginning to become A LOT more mysterious now with this.

I agree with you. I feel like LB! will give more hints and expose more secrets as the character routes are completed.


helski666 said:
At least the question from Kyousuke is really easy to read through: "Have you recalled everything?" And on top of that those flashbacks

Ohhhhhhhhh, that clears up the slight confusion I had.

I love how this episode had more Secrets of the World hints. It confirms some of the theories I had with the execution of it in this anime.
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Ugh so i guess I won't get to see Kud's naked body next week.

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Well, they have always some stupid issues like Kud's "magic shoes".

Most likely they'll fix the "magic ahoge" on the BDs.


What "magic shoes" ????
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Never mind,don't tell me,I don't want to know...
Mar 9, 2013 8:35 AM

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What did exactly Kyousuke tell Kud?
Mar 9, 2013 9:15 AM

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Loved this episode. Loved the hints to the secret of the world. And those flashbacks... Awesome.
Mar 9, 2013 9:18 AM

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I work in VNs. Sometimes, they have h-scenes and I go "waai~". I also like to not write at Oppai is Justice, a blog with great urls.
Mar 9, 2013 9:39 AM

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...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?
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zakkun89 said:
...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?


Not me but I thought the foreshadowing was pretty neat.
I work in VNs. Sometimes, they have h-scenes and I go "waai~". I also like to not write at Oppai is Justice, a blog with great urls.
Mar 9, 2013 10:02 AM

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...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?


Yes.


Mar 9, 2013 10:34 AM

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Yukariki said:
zakkun89 said:
...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?


Not me but I thought the foreshadowing was pretty neat.

You're part of the "crazy/hyped" though...

This is still Kud's arc and you guys are all like "GOD HAS FINALLY BLESSED US WITH REFRAIN'S SIGN ! WE'RE SAVED!" or something :O

Not that I'm complaining,I like it actually.
Maybe it's just that there're way too many enthusiatic VN players here compare to the previous places I've been to.
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LB was moved to 4 A.M. in my country, now I have to wait until tomorrow at night to watch the new cap. T_____________T


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Mar 9, 2013 1:41 PM

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Kud's broken voice (well technically she hardly even seemed phased at all here) and crying sounded absolutely terrible. and not even compared to the VN. it just sounded extremely amatuer.

this scares the shit out of me... because crying needs to be portrayed fucking well in refrain.

QUALITY in a kud episode? i don't even know what to believe anymore

well whatever, good things about this episode:

kyousuke being a super ikemen
suginami's appearance. (YAY HANAKANA)
Unused track 3 (song for friends)
secret of the WOOOOOOOORLD
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Mar 9, 2013 2:14 PM

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suginami's appearance. (YAY HANAKANA)

wat,she's voiced by Kana Hanazawa !? ALL IS FORGIVEN !
Mar 9, 2013 3:30 PM

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Yay! They used the unused version of Song for Friends.
Mar 9, 2013 6:23 PM

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Dat Symbolism.
Dat suginami appearing, she looks pretty good being animated :O!
Dem Secrets of the World.
Mar 9, 2013 6:58 PM
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Hmm Wish there was more hinting of Suginami's



but kinda cool she got an appearance.

Overall, it was good episode.
Mar 9, 2013 7:00 PM
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Hmm Wish there was more hinting of Suginami's




We'll get there because Rin should be right after Yuiko arc and you know what that means...
Mar 9, 2013 7:07 PM

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Omg I loved

Guess I was wrong when I thought they were going to pour all their budget into this route. Plenty of quality scenes but Kud did get the most episodes compared to the other heroines.
Mar 9, 2013 7:15 PM
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lavanio said:
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Hmm Wish there was more hinting of Suginami's




We'll get there because Rin should be right after Yuiko arc and you know what that means...


Yeah, I just thought some more foreshadowing would of been nice at that moment.
Mar 9, 2013 7:22 PM

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That scene where Riki trys to call haruka and Mio actually had me trippy so trippy.
If they can make more scenes like this during parts of refrain 10/10 easily
Mar 9, 2013 7:36 PM

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The foreboding is strong with this one...

Oh, and I FINALLY realised why Mio was missing during Haruka's climax. For the same reason Mio and Haruka are now missing from Kud's climax. And of course, Komari is still there, because...

...she's selfish, right?
Mar 9, 2013 7:47 PM

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The foreboding is strong with this one...

Oh, and I FINALLY realised why Mio was missing during Haruka's climax. For the same reason Mio and Haruka are now missing from Kud's climax. And of course, Komari is still there, because...

...she's selfish, right?


It's Komari man.
Mar 9, 2013 7:49 PM

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Can't wait for next episode. The writing in the visual novel that the episode will be based off of in my mind was superb, and I feel they are doing a fantastic job making the VN into an anime. So excited!!!!
Mar 9, 2013 7:59 PM

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The writing and scene placement, especially with Kyousuke and Kud, and Riki and Kud during the second half of the episode was excellent.
They're building up Kud's story very well to wrap up her route next episode.
Feels will be expected next week.
And I teared up when Masato did
Mar 9, 2013 8:03 PM
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Call me a creep if you wish but I'm not big on breaking lolis.
If they want to break her it's going to either sting like no tomorrow, or drive me further into apathy.
I watch key showsa to prove to myself that I am still able to comprehend that all good things must end, as must all bad things.

Suffering lolis have historically NEVER ended well for me.
Sasami, Asuna, Ushio, Setsuko...


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I always run when things get tough, that's why I ost something important to who I was.
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Mar 9, 2013 8:31 PM

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Call me a creep if you wish but I'm not big on breaking lolis.
If they want to break her it's going to either sting like no tomorrow, or drive me further into apathy.
I watch key showsa to prove to myself that I am still able to comprehend that all good things must end, as must all bad things.

Suffering lolis have historically NEVER ended well for me.
Sasami, Asuna, Ushio, Setsuko...


I swore I wouldn't run away like I always do.
I always run when things get tough, that's why I ost something important to who I was.


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Mar 9, 2013 8:36 PM

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I have to say, this episode was well done. Now it is time to end Kud's arc in the coming episode, and will of course look forward to that. Especially the end of it.

The hints that was dropped, Kyousuke's conversation with Kud and how Futaki Kanata is more integrated in the group when it comes to Kud was really good, and I hope the suspense like this will continue to the remainder of the season.

Mar 9, 2013 8:37 PM

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Why is the worst route in the visual novel the one being adapted so well? I don't get it.
Mar 9, 2013 8:39 PM

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Why is the worst route in the visual novel the one being adapted so well? I don't get it.


Kud is by far the most popular of the girls so its no surprise they put most of their effort towards adapting that route right.

Mar 9, 2013 8:46 PM

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Why is the worst route in the visual novel the one being adapted so well? I don't get it.


Worst route? Not even close.
Did you even get the metaphors and symbolism in Kud's route ?
Did you even appreciate that it's one of the few routes that seamlessly integrated the secret of the world into the story?
Kud's route was hardly the worst route. Sorry if one of the other girls you liked got a subpar adaptation compared to Kud's. I was never crazy about her character prior to her route, but it's one of the better developed ones.
Mar 9, 2013 9:16 PM

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zakkun89 said:
...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?

I'm pretty sure 90% of users who posts in the LB threads at this moment already read the VN.
Since we are getting close to the end of season 1 OF COURSE WE ARE HYPED FOR REFRAIN.
Mar 9, 2013 9:24 PM
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I don‘t think Kyoto Animation would do a better job than J.C in this anime... Lots of people thought that KA would be better but after watching 22 episodes I knew that J.C was capable to pull it off...
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I don‘t think Kyoto Animation would do a better job than J.C in this anime... Lots of people thought that KA would be better but after watching 22 episodes I knew that J.C was capable to pull it off...


I somewhat agree.
Honestly, by comparison, none of the side routes in Clannad or Kanon felt emotional at all to me, so JC managing to wrap each of them up nicely in the end is going to lead to greater success in Refrain. They're doing a superb job with Kud's route, and I'm starting to like some of the changes they've been making, like adding the speech with Kud and Kyousuke. It might be because I already played the VN though, but I feel like the routes were more dramatic than Key's past works. I'd still like to see some quality improvement in Refrain...
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zakkun89 said:
...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ?


Yes. It is one of the greatest pieces of literature on the planet and is what makes this show/visual novel so great. If you want to know why, just go to YouTube and either look up my channel (ClannadIsLove) or search "Little Busters! Episode Masato" which is the entire route for Masato (38 minutes long).

That, or search "Little Busters - Refrain" to see the big thing that makes the entire series. It's a 100% complete spoiler, but if you see either of these two videos you'll see why people like it so much.

Honestly, I'm just sick of people going like, "WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REFRAIN!?" or "Are you this excited for Refrain!?" or your question. Yeah it might be annoying but we know what happens and it excites us, and if you don't understand you shouldn't be talking about it yet. Either read and get excited knowing you're in for a treat when you see it or just stop asking (this is for everyone, and a suggestion).
Mar 9, 2013 10:32 PM

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Kud`s mom looks like a 14 year old girl.
Mar 9, 2013 10:38 PM

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Nice episode. This arc is nicely paced compared the others. I hear we're in for some magical realism next episode. I'm too busy to read the visual novel by the time the next season comes, so hopefully Refrain will be adapted with everyone's best effort.

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Kud`s mom looks like a 14 year old girl.


haha yah. XD

SO I didn't get all the metaphors and symbolism that people say there is in this episode. Must be because I haven't played the VN? o.o


Mar 9, 2013 10:49 PM

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Haruka and Mio is suddenly missing and no one is saying anything hmmmm. Looks like someone is finally making their move.

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Mar 9, 2013 11:01 PM

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ElfinMint said:
Kud`s mom looks like a 14 year old girl.


haha yah. XD

SO I didn't get all the metaphors and symbolism that people say there is in this episode. Must be because I haven't played the VN? o.o


Some of the symbolism is related to the Secret of the World, and more of it will come next episode. It's related to Kud's inferiority complex and the idea of becoming a "good gear of t he world", and the gear Riki finds in Kud's box of goodies. Another part is the regret that Kud could not continue to become a cosmonaut, but her biggest regret is something that will be implicitly mentioned (semispoiler)
next episode. You may not understand it until you realize the Secret of the World.
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Twas an excellent episode. Anyone know if there are multiple directors for the show? I've heard that there were. This episode for once didn't suck, and the music actually played all the way through rather than starting at the beginning then cutting to the end. One of the best episodes so far, although I've loved everything since episode fourteen.

Favorite thing about this episode, despite being small, was
It's actually another reason I like whoever directed this episode - they know their shit.

Hopefully whoever directed this episode directs the rest as JC Staff may have a competent employee. As for the above arguments, KyoAni would simply have better animation and the first thirteen episodes would have been better. In terms of story... the only way it could be ruined is if it was altered, which it wasn't.
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.... Hmmm...

GAHHHH!!!!!

I MUST NOT READ THE NOVEL! I MUST NOT READ THE NOVEL UNTIL THIS IS OVER!!!
AHHH!!!!

This is so tough on me!

What is Kyousuke talking about?! Where is Mio and Haruka?! What with those chains? What is this refrain people are talking about!?


Anyways... Looks like Kud did some pretty bad things in the past... Prison huh...
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